Would have been cheaper for the State and Society to just pay her utility bills,
rather than all those investigators, attornies fees, incarceration, and juvinele and psychological bills.
LDS Liberal - I don't think that would have changed the mothers morals
much. If it were not the bills - it would have been for something else. What would be better is for the daughter to have a way out. At her age,
she should not feel the responsibility for keeping the family warm, or with
food, or have electricity. If the mom wants to sacrifice herself, that is
another question. But to ask your child to do what you will not.... as Ranch
UtahBlueDevilDurham, NCI agree it's Despicable.110%But desperate people make desparate choices.FYI -
I think the STATE needs stronger rights to take kids out of "Despicable"
homes, with "Despicable" parents -- before it gets to this.
There are not words sufficient in the English language (or any other current
language, I would think) to describe the violation that this would cause. If
this mother is truly guilty of what she is being charged with, there is no
punishment on Earth that can be sufficient. I don't say we should not
provide some punishment if this proves to be true, but violations of this
magnitude cannot be adequately dealt with by mankind. If this is found to be
what has indeed happened, I do not want to be found in this woman's shoes
come Judgement Day if she does not truly mend her ways.All that
being said, I sincerely hope that the young woman can find a way to heal.
I agree it is sad that this woman felt this was the only way for her to pay her
families heat and light bills. What was going thru her mind that she felt this
was the only way.I do not feel any mother would willing allow this
to happen to her daughter.What were her alternatives? Perhaps she
did not feel there were other alternatives.The real criminals were
the adult men who facilited this behavior and to a lesser extent the Mother.However; it is not uncommon for women to do this during times of stress
such as war, occupation, natural disasters and famine.Look to
Germany and Japan after WW2. How about Korea? How about Viet Nam? When we had 1/4 million service men in Iraq I find it hard to believe that it
was not going on there also. It is an unspoken secret.I am not
saying it is right but I am just saying it happens.There should be
ample safety nets in the United States to prevent this stress from falling on
the most vunerable members of our population.
BTW -- What about the men involved?No charges being filed?So suspects in custody?It's not just this poor girl's
mother who has broken the laws, you know?
The two "men" involved have been arrested and charged. The woman's
arrest came later.
To those who are commenting that desperate people do desperate things, that is
true. However, a desperate mother who had a sound moral compass would never
harm her child like that. She might go out and prostitute herself and I can
understand that as a mother myself, but she would never do it to her daughter.
This woman is nothing more that the biological embryo host, she was never her
mother.In our world there are many options open to women with
children. They just need to put in the effort to find them because nothing in
this world, short of Mormon missionaries, will come to you. (hope that passes
the finger wagging guys :)
@Iron Rod;While I do agree with your comment about the lack of
appropriate saftey nets in our society, there are still some things you just do
not do. Prostituting your children is one of them.
Part OneSorry but this has annoyed me all morning and I have to add
two more cents directly for Iron Rod.IR...You are WAY off base.
What was going through her mind you ask? It was what is the easiest way I can
do this so I don't have to do any work or planning on my part. If she was
so stressed she would have put herself out there. You're right no MOTHER
would allow it to happen...period...she was in no sense of the word acting as a
mother or as a real woman would act. Mothers do not do that period to their
children...I can't say that enough.The real criminals are the
men? While the men are reprehensible, the mother betrayed the maternal bond of
the child she conceived, nurtured and carried in her body. That is a sanctified
trust and committment given by God that any real woman and mother would fight
and kill if necessary to protect. To solicit and give her up to such a fate
should receive the death penalty but that is me. Nobody harms my child without
coming through me first.
Part TwoIt is not uncommon? Look to Japan etc? Our military in
IRAQ? I don't know what world you live in, but it is VERY uncommon
around the world. Yes, it may happen, but it is not that common. My childrens
grandparents were in Japan during WW2. They were literally starving and
destitute with no male family members at home. Their mothers did not turn them
out. My family here in the US lived through the GREAT Depression and NONE of
their daughters were turned out. I know of nobody in my 7 person reach who
turned out their daughters or sons. The American military historically and
today has not and does not prey upon children sexually. Yes, it does happen,
but it is very rare. I can't say the same for other militaries...without
going into detail, the Japanese were monsters during what has come to be known
as the Rape of Nanking which my mother witnessed first hand after that war and I
can assure you it was not because Chinese mothers turned their daughters---their
Part 3Ample safety nets to prevent this stress?Are you
implying that the criminal and immoral behavior of this female gestational
carrier is the result of a lack of aid programs? Really? I contend it is her
laziness and unwillingness to put forth the effort to find help or get a job how
about that? Give her children up for adoption to people who would love and take
care of them how about that? What do you expect the government to do...deliver
it to her door on a silver platter and chauffeur her to pay her bills and go
shopping? Her sense of entitlement shown by her not caring for her own children
shows the handouts have been too plentiful. She should have been handed free
condoms instead of aid.You need to rethink.
Does no one read their utility bills? Both the gas company and the electric
company have programs for those who come up short and cannot pay their utility
bills. This is not rocket science! As several have noted, this is a woman who
made no effort to learn what her options were, though she was clearly blinded by
her moral depravity.