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2014 'Noah' film to star big names, but some worry it doesn't stay faithful to the original script

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  • gmlewis Houston, TX
    Nov. 18, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    If it can just take in enough receipts to match the production costs, the film can at least keep its head above water.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Nov. 18, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    "....some question the film’s ability to deliver an accurate portrayal of the story beginning in Genesis Chapter 6."
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    Misrepresentation of known historical fact is commonplace in popular entertainment. But when the subject being depicted is legend and myth, only the utmost fidelity is appropriate. Even Hollywood challenges that taboo at its peril.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    A religious-based story put to film by Hollywood...and you think it won't be consistent with scripture? Really? Come now.

  • Mr. Smitty Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    The story is not consistent with reality, so I see no problem straying from a work of fiction.

  • Eagles63 Provo, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    As a guy who has made a few "Bible" films I can say that few films can stay true to a bible story when those stories are frequently a few versus and often with little detail. Moreover, film, as a genre, requires heavy liberties to make it last 120 minutes and fit the demanding requirements that audience have been trained and have come to expect. Consider that this is a story that deals with the near utter destruction of the known world and you have to really dig deep to find the true spirituality of the story as it applies to you. I'm, for one, most interested in how Hollywood attempts this subject. I'll be impressed if any "spirituality" comes of it, but I sense that some will. For me, that will be enough.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    You mean it won't stay true to the story of a rising sea at the end of the last ice age, breaching a sesmically active bosporous land bridge and dumping ten cubic miles of water a day into a much lower black sea basin for months? All within sight of Mt. Ararat? Pity. It would have been a flood of biblical proportions (pardon the pun) and quite the story.

  • Really??? Kearns, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    Well, from what I see in the trailer, it's much better than the miniseries NBC put out several years ago.

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 7:12 p.m.

    although I wouldn't mind something entertaining, I will stick with the challenge I give my literature classes: Read a great book first, such as the best selling book of the twentieth century that wasn't written until 1880, Ben Hur! As a 'tale of Chrst', it still is one of the best fiction books written about the veracity of Jesus Christ. lew Wallace, an emerging atheist, took it upon himself to learn of Jesus and it changed his life, as well as his views about Christianity. others would do well to do likewise. it is worth it.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 18, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    I hope it stays faithful because obviously this literally happened.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 1:11 a.m.

    Of Hollywood was more interested in more accurate portrayal of Moses they would not cast Charlton Heston or Christian Bale but Wallace Shawn.

    It would be nice to see Prophets being portrayed as real people, faithful good people who are human with real imperfections, and not perfect looking super heroes, or that they must have dark edges to be interesting.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Nov. 19, 2013 5:18 a.m.

    We purchased the History Channel's THE BIBLE and were very disappointed. The special effects were a joke. Angels were essentially ninja fighters. It was actually hilarious. We forced ourselves to watch the entire series but it wasn't easy. We won't be bothering to watch it again.

    What we do bother to watch again and again are the Bible movies made by Ted Turner. They are respectful and accurate and very good -- especially the ones about Joseph, Abraham, and Jacob. They include stars such as Ben Kingsley, Martin Landau, Matthew Modine, Sean Bean, Barbara Hershey, and Lara Flynn Boyle. We love these movies.

    As for Hollywood doing a good Bible movie, there is such contempt for the Bible in Hollywood that I doubt it can be done. As Jay Leno once said, the problem with Hollywood doing a movie about the Bible is that nobody in Hollywood owns one.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Nov. 19, 2013 5:59 a.m.

    Considering the entire Noah's Ark incident is just a story and never really happened what does it matter how it's portrayed?
    It was just a story written to teach a lesson. There was no flood that covered the surface of the earth within the past 7000 years. That's just simple history 3rd grade history.

  • greenshovel SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 7:27 a.m.

    These are stories that teach something.
    They didn't really happen.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    Nov. 19, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    I look forward to the inevitable Joseph Smith movie not produced by the LDS church (it'll happen someday). Any filmic representation of JS that actually portrays him as an actual human and not just the noble, benevolent, wholesome-as-apple-pie ideal who shows up in LDS films will cause Mormon audiences to absolutely flip out. It'll cause 5X the hand-wringing and frantic testimony bearing as "The Book of Mormon" musical.

    As for the Noah movie, what would a "faithful" version even look like? If you only put in scenes that are literally from the Bible, how long would the movie run? An hour, if that? It's a story; nothing more, nothing less. Make an entertaining movie and I'll pay to see it.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    Faithful to the original script? What would that original script be? The Bible? The Mesopotamian flood myth?

    Okay, we'll take the Bible. Which translation? How many animals of each species board the ark? Seven or two? How many species are represented? (Careful, some literalists believe that ALL species from the globe are on board.) And what in the world is gopher wood?

    Making a movie about a Bible story, especially the flood, has to be the most thankless job in the film industry...

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:19 a.m.

    A movie that depicts God as the greatest mass murderer of all time?

    Sure, why not.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    I recall the same discussions going on when Peter Jackson was making Lord of the Rings. Many fans of the books were virtually panicked that the film would stray from the original and key elements would be lost. In the end, it (all three) turned out to be a pretty good film and most people were quite pleased.

    The key difference of course is that with Lord of the Rings no one was deluding themselves into thinking the story was anything but fiction – great fiction and pregnant with meaning, but fiction nonetheless.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    I do like Russel Crow as an actor but please...atheistic Hollywood attempting to retell biblical history? This is like a Roman depiction of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I thought Mel Gibson did a really good job with his film about the final days and crucifixion of Jesus (although really graphic and bloody) but still I give Mel credit for showing the final scene where Jesus is resurrected - that alone took courage especially in a Hollywood that HATES Christians.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    To "MapleDon" the cable station TNT did a series of made for TV movies based on the bible. They did an exceptional job keeping the story intact and not altering the much. I have watched several of the movies that they did, and Ester and Job were exceptionally well produced and acted.

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 12:28 p.m.

    Doesn't stay "true" to a myth? If you are portraying fiction what is the heresy in revising it with more fiction. As for the story, the amount of water required to cover earth's mountains is three times what is on the earth today. That is 30 feet of rain an hour for 40 days (or was it 120 days according to another part of Genesis?). 2 (or 7 in other part of Genesis) of each of countless numbers of species, predator and prey, being pacified and orderly marching onto a boat? How did marsupials get to Australia from present-day Turkey? Why do the Pyramids in Egypt, which predate the flood, have no evidence of any water damage? Rainbows not existing before Noah's time? All the races of man coming from three genetically related brothers? I say the producers of the movie should be allowed to take any liberties with stories of the events. Genesis sure did.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    To: Dennis...Oh, he who is without wisdom and knowledge. It did happen and I'm sad you don't believe so.The third grade history was not accurate then. You really need to do some serious reading with prayer and you will find and know what is true. I challenge you to do that.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    @suzyk#1 – “It did happen… You really need to do some serious reading with prayer and you will find and know what is true.”

    Interesting challenge – personally, if anyone undertook this challenge and got some answer that the flood described in Genesis did occur, I would consider that strong evidence of the ineffectiveness of prayer to provide objective knowledge.

    Please keep in mind that this method for attaining “knowledge” has been around for thousands of years (from the first shamans and witch doctors to modern day seers) but is no longer relied upon strictly due to its ineffectiveness.

    Science was a giant leap forward in our evolution because it not only provides better answers (than the old methods) but because it works. And debunking myth & fairytales is simply part of this increase in our knowledge… sorry if that is troubling.

  • Unreconstructed Reb Chantilly, VA
    Nov. 19, 2013 2:03 p.m.

    They had me at Jennifer Connelly. I'm in.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    RE: Tyler D, Increase in [Y]our knowledge… sorry if that is troubling.

    The Noahic Covenant is the promise that God made to Noah and his descendants after the flood which destroyed the world. The Noahic Covenant has several distinguishing features. First, it is an unconditional covenant. Second, it was made to Noah and all his descendants as well as “every living creature” and the earth in general (Genesis 9:8-10). Third, it was sealed with a sign, “the rainbow.“

    They were secure in the Ark, Genesis 7:16 The Lord shut Noah in the ark and He kept him secure. In the same way Beleivers are not saved by works, but by grace.

    …“in the days of Noah,” while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.( 1 Pet 3:20);

    “the pledge of a good conscience toward God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Peter 3:21).
    Peter makes it clear in this verse that it is not the ritual itself that saves, but the fact that Believers are united with Christ in His resurrection through faith.

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Nov. 19, 2013 4:47 p.m.

    @sharrona – “The Noahic Covenant has several distinguishing features…”

    I’ve always found it strange when you offer Bible quotes as a counter to my points. You do realize (at least for me) that doing so looks like you’re trying to prove your math skills by writing 2+2=5.

    But I guess you’re not quoting the Bible for my benefit, are you?

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Nov. 19, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    Hey, you're being too harsh here with my believing in tales. Tales are what helps us get through childhood and I still want to be a child! Come to think of it, children are the most amazing people on earth. As a teacher, I've discovered that they are the most open,fun, and teachable, a heck of lot more so than adults. Once an adult mind closes, it takes a more than a steel crow bar to open it. sometimes when people get knocked down, it changes them, but that is a rarity. Most people that get knocked down, get up, brush themselves off and keep going, not having learned a thing. It must be awfully frustrating to God to watch it happen over and over, but that's what makes Him God. Eventually, he gets to meet us all. All those tales will take on new meaning then. Until then, leave me alone.

  • bj-hp Maryville, MO
    Nov. 19, 2013 5:49 p.m.

    noceleb: I completely disagree with your statement about the pyramids. The first pyramid is said to have been built around 2600 BC. This is thousands of years after the flood mentioned in Genesis.

    Others mention that the separation of the Red Sea is also a myth, yet, science has proven that this is completely possible as there is a land bridge under the Red Sea that would appear with a strong easterly wind.

    Jesus under direction of his Father created heavens and earth. As such, as the creator he would know better than any knowledge learned by a scientist as all knowledge comes from our Father in Heaven and his Son Jesus Christ. It just depends on how they wish to show their knowledge.

    Hollywood is becoming an anti-Christ establishment. I don't trust mush of how it produces the stories and information in the Bible. Someone said God is the greatest mass murder but the Bible explicitly tells us that the wicked shall be destroyed just as it was during the flood, the death of the Savior as in the Book of Mormon and at the time of his second coming.

  • falasha Mount Laurel, NJ
    Nov. 19, 2013 8:14 p.m.

    Noah was 500 years old when he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth; Genesis 5:32. Does Noah look like he's 500 years old in the movie?

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Nov. 20, 2013 6:18 a.m.

    @suzyk#1....I would suggest you study the origins of the Old Testament. I know for a fact that the story of Noah is fiction. I could pray about it every day for the rest of my life and not verify the fact that this is all nonsense and a story only written for teaching purposes. Finding perspective in religious beliefs is important. Believing just because someone says so will always lead you astray.
    There are hundreds of things you believe that I do not. It's just a difference of opinion, not fact.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Nov. 20, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    A flood that would submerge even the tip of Mt. Everest would require more water than has ever been present in the Earth's atmosphere. No amount of condensation could make it happen. A mind can lose its clarity spending time mulling over an absurdity in fervently trying to find something rational in it. The significance in the story of Noah's ark is in the meaning people find in it. How literal we take the purported event is a matter of choice.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    Nov. 20, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    RE: Tyler, for your benefit. Noah’s Ark Teaches Us About Jesus, Heb 11:7 by faith that Noah built a large boat to save his family from the flood. He obeyed God, who warned him about things that had never happened before. By his faith Noah condemned the rest of the world, and he received the righteousness that comes by faith.

    RE: Craig Clark. The universal Flood, Jesus himself presented the Genesis flood as a type of the coming destruction of the world associated with his second advent (Matt. 24: 37-39, Lk. 17: 27, 28). Surely we are not ready to believe the final Judgment will only be local. However, in order to be consistent those who accept the local flood doctrine must contend that Jesus' coming and the destruction of the "earth" will be limited to an area and isolated to only a comparatively few people of the earth.

    The Genesis flood reveals the righteousness of God and serves as a type of the great judgment to come upon all men (Rom. 11: 22; Lk. 17: 27, 28). The global flood has also contributed much to form the world as we know it today.