From my perspective in the Midwest, Utah football has about as much national
relevance as Indiana or Illinois in the Big Ten. Those teams will rise up now
and then and knock off a good or very good team. Their fan base gets excited
when their team wins six games and qualifies for a lower level bowl and maybe,
just maybe every 15 to 20 years they may get a trip to the Rose Bowl. BYU's reputation is just a bit higher, because they have a TV package
that gets them into more national homes, they travel more widely and they are in
a bowl game almost yearly.But that said, no one has talked about
either of them being part of the national picture since Utah beat Alabama in
2009. It's a great memory for Ute fans, but in other parts of the country,
it is pretty much forgotten.
The big difference is that Oregon has more talent in virtually position except
the punter. I guess the punter will have to score at least 35 points to have
any prayer of beating the Ducks. Hey is could happen since Chris will mark it
Ducks 42 - utes 10.Mark it down.
Rich,Good comment. It is good to have a more realistic viewpoint from
outside the hill. I agree that both teams are not in the national spotlight but
BYU certainly receives more respect and press than the utes could ever hope for.
The BYU/ESPN tv deal is sweet. I heard that there are 16 BYU basketball games
on ESPN this year. Utah gets one, when they play BYU.The PAC network
provides nothing for the u since no one watches it.
I don't think the Ducks will be suffering the wrath of the Utes.
The thing I love about watching our Utes is the black border on my screen that
reminds me that it's not my eyes that are failing when I switch from ESPN
to the non-HD PAC Network.
I disagree with But Seriously...the Utes get plenty of national respect, having
gone to and won 2 BCS bowls in the last 10 years. BYU has done...nothing since
1990 of real note. We continue to lose to top 25 teams (forget counting former
MWC games where our MWC opponent was ranked...I'm talking about quality
competition). I think Utah will always struggle against the better
teams in their conference e.g. Oregon, UCLA, USC, Stanford (it won't happen
again) and probably ASU, Washington and OSU. They are at best the 8th best team
in the PAC 12. But BYU fans should not let their heads get too big.
Utah EARNED its way into the PAC. Both teams are mediocre with occasional
brilliant games (almost accidental).
@79Ute,"I don't think the Ducks will be suffering the wrath
of the Utes."You're right, but only because the Utes menu
this weekend is calling for roast ducks! Ok, I'm being facetious here!
But if you think the Ducks are mad, wait till you see what's coming! You
can only take but so much, and after 3 straight setbacks they are going to come
at those ducks with a vengeance. You can mark it down! Wilson will rise, and
so will all the Utes like they did against the Cardinals! I still believe they
are much better than their record. And as I said many times before about my
Cougars, winning cures all! It's the greatest equalizer!Good
luck this weekend, Utes! Go Cougars! Go Aggies!
Guess who they're gonna take out frustration on this weekend????
Very interesting and telling that six of the first nine comments are from BYU
fans using Ute pseudo-names. Just why should the care so much? Perhaps they are
still feeling the sting of four in a row and nine of the last twelve? Or maybe
it is because the Utes were invited to the PAC and the cougars were not? Seems
like nobody wants them. They like to brag about a TV contract because they
cannot talk about their head to head record against Utah. Funny that Utah's
partial share of the PAC 12 contract amounts to more than their entire ESPN
contract and it will continue to grow. Most likely it's just the little
Wow, little brother Y fan obsession with the Utes again with trite comments from
fans of a team that plays IDAHO STATE for heavens sake in mid November. Y fan,
you have nothing to boast about when your team plays IDAHO STATE in November.
Utah on the other hand is playing a team, that was until last week, almost a
lock for going up against Alabama in the NC game. Your team on the other hand
is playing IDAHO STATE. Then you have a road game to play an unranked Notre
Dame team that lost to ever woeful Pitt. Then comes the challenge of challenges
against Nevada who I noticed got beat six ways from Sunday last week by Colorado
State. Good luck against Idaho State, I hope you guys rise to the monumental
challenge. Too funny.
This game will be funny. I'm excited.
@ Silent Lurker:This Ute fan was simply wondering when all that TV
money the conference is getting would translate into an HD broadcast in an area
loaded with fellow PAC 12 alumni. In researching this morning, I found that our
cable provider is withholding the Pac 12 HD broadcast as a way to get us to
further upgrade our packages - so they'll get another $30/month from me now
so I can watch the improvement in the basketball program in HD. @thebigsamoanThe defense did a better job containing the speed of
the ASU offense for most of the game than I expected. I hope the defense can
play as well this week, but I fear another Arizona-like let down. Coach KS has
done a great job with the defense this year, and the defense has strong player
leadership. I don't think the offense has been well coached this year.
For example, why the call for two after the first touchdown? And we lose by one.
We've got one offensive coordinator who's too young and another
who's too old. The offense has no real leaders on the field. The losses
of Murphy and Tonga has really hurt.
To eastcoastcoug,Utah did not EARN their bid to the Pac 12, get real. So
many Ute fans are either ignorant of the facts or delusional. BYU was not
invited to the Pac because of their religion...point bland and period. There
was at least one school president from a California school that stated in the
meetings they would not approve byu because of the religious affiliation and
they all had to approve to get it. Utah was invited to get the tv market in
this area and to be fodder for the Pac big boys. That is the truth.As for
byu, several conferences have wanted byu, but we have refused to give up what we
have, which is awesome exposure. We were wise to not cave in to the Big East,
who did want us, or to the Big 12, who also wanted us. We stuck to our guns and
demanded tv rights they were not willing to give. We are much better off right
now as far as exposure and I will take that any day.
@BYU9293 Keep telling you all the conferences wanted BYU if they did they would
have given BYU their TV rights in order to join the conference. Utah did earn a
spot in the PAC due to being a research institution and their sucess on the
football field. What sucess has BYU had in the past 2 decades that
have warrented an invite to the PAC. You are not a research school your football
program is average. ESPN only wants you for filler programing on Friday nights
and at 8 pm at night. @ But seriously folks! Utah and BYU play at
the Hunty it wont be on ESPN
You folks all need to open your eyes. Neither team is ever going to hit the big
time. They had a better chance before. Look what happened to Utah and TCU when
they went undefeated in the old MWC. They became BCS bowl busters. Doesn't
anyone think that went into these big conferences reasons for inviting them into
their associations? We are all stupid to think otherwise. The big boys had to
break up the bowl busters. Utah and BYU would both have done better if they had
stayed in the MWC and kept TCU in there, then bring in Boise state and maybe a
Nevada or San Jose State, both of whom have shown some flashes of achievement
from time to time. Think of the acclaim the winner of the conference would have
received. All of these programs were nationally recognized and would have
brought power to the conference. Now by being broken up into other conferences
they all have become irrelevant. The big boys have won again and BYU and Utah
have fallen victim to their own unbelievable unrealistic egos. They are getting
exactly what they deserve, exposed mediocrity, albeit with more money in their
So Lurker,You spout a lot of information but can you show us the actual
numbers that Utah earns and the amount of money BYU earns off of these
contracts? Until then you may want to be careful about what you put out there.
I seriously doubt that the pac tv contract split so mny ways would amount to the
amount BYU receives. Keep in mind Utah and Colorado do get all their full share
this year. You might have missed that but good try.Crow,I
guess seriously was wrong in the u/BYU game being on tv. I guess Utah was not
interesting enough opponent. By the way to all of the u fans, not
all cable companies just throw out the pac network as part of a basic package.
I live in pac country and cannot get it in my area without spending more money,
which I won't do. The pac network is not as viable and visable as you may
Both BYU and Utah are what they are. Middling schools against big time programs
that hit it big once or twice a year. And the other teams know it they same way
we knew that Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV and others were never going to win
consistently. In the MWC conference both BYU and Utah were better set for the
BCS game than now. The problem for both of them is recruiting. There are not
enough great players in the state of Utah and the Mountain West footprint to
consistently beat the USCs of college football, so they have to reach into Texas
and California, and both teams have to develop talent over a 3-6 year window
instead of reloading with four star recruits. When they have a strong
senior/junior class with a quarterback that can play, they each win some extra
games, but it will never last year to year. BYU has the religious affiliation,
which limits the recruits it can get and Utah has to sell SLC over many more
desirable locations in the PAC 12. BYU was pushed around by Wisconsin and Utah
will struggle with Oregon's team speed. Stanford was a better matchup.
At 79uteI get the PAC 12 channel in HD on Comcast, u won't get
the channel in HD via your rabbit ears
@spokane uteAnd I get BYUtv in HD on Comcast. But isn't one of
the big "cuts" utah "fans" like to make about BYUtv is that it
isn't in HD? Just like the pac12 network it is on some systems and
isn't on others but there is one really big difference, BYUtv is on far
more cable and sattelite systems than the pac12 network and it is on the basic
tier on all of them. The pac12 network is an added expense on most of the
systems it is on, you have to pay extra for it. No one that isn't a pac12
fan will pay for it unless it is part of a bundle with some other channels they