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BYU football: Cougars fall short at No. 21 Wisconsin, 27-17

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  • TamaBYU Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    I really like the running play calls....NOT

  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Nov. 9, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    Taysom for Heisman!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    Anae calls a great misdirection run play and then a QB draw on 3rd & 13...makes no sense what he does some times. It's frustrating. Offensively BYU is moving the ball but then does nothing when they're deep in Wisconsin territory. Still a lot of work to do offensively.

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    down by 17 start of the 4th this game is over. BYU will be 8-4 for the season and will hopefully win their bowl game.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    cougsndawgs

    Problem isn't play calling. UW owns the line of scrimmage. End of story...unless Hill gets some protection in the pocket, can set his feet and can throw to his big receivers.

  • Kiboo South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Still a lot of work to offensively AND defensively AND with special teams. This team really isn't that good and doesn't compete very well when matched against a good team.

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    You want to know why Utah is hands down the best team in Utah: 1) 70 yard punt 2) consistently punts downed within the 10 yard line 3) 51 yard field goal, 4) great defense and 5) regardless of the opponent, they don't lose at home. BYU's defense is good, but not great. Special teams are anything but.

    From a lifelong BYU fan, it isn't hard to recognize why Utah is the best team in the state of Utah.

    BYU losing to Virginia, Utah, and now Wisconsin shows that we are middle of the pack (maybe a little better), at best, but definitely not elite (and haven't been for decades).

    Frustrating day.

  • niners SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    So... BYU starts off the season losing, the fans whine (fire bronco, bench taysom etc.) BYU then plays a bunch of cream puffs, BYU is now so improved, Bronco is an amazing coach, Taysom for heisman!! Sound familiar to anyone? Finally they are playing a formidable opponent at the end of the season to send them back to reality unlike 2011,2012.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    It's Wisconsin at Camp Randall. BYU played about as well as most teams that will go there this year. This is about what I expected. A win would have been nice, but not a bad showing at all.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:44 p.m.

    Wisconsin had only given up 16 points in 4 games at home this year, according to the stat ESPN just showed. I suppose we should consider it a moral victory that BYU has scored more than that in this one game.

    Wisconsin is a good team and is very tough at home. Might this game have been different in Provo, or on a neutral field? Who knows, but the Badgers dominated today.

    Defensively, BYU showed the same flaws we've seen all season: they go too conservative on third and long, they don't cover the underneath stuff, and they commit too early with their line backers so they aren't in position to fill the holes on the run game.

    Of course, it doesn't help that the refs just picked up the third flag that should have been a penalty in BYU's favor. Two PIs and a helmet-to-helmet hit waved off.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:46 p.m.

    Well, I think we can now assess BYU and Taysom Hill. Hill has some game, but not enough to carry BYU and offset a weak and ineffective O line. As a whole, this team just isn't that good and clearly the loss to Utah was no fluke. This O line just can't handle a physical front and isn't ready for prime time. Should take lessons from Andersen's O line.

  • kitsutsuki South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    The inability of BYU's defense to prevent the touchdown right before the end of the first half is why we lost this game. As much hype as this defense gets, I really don't think they are that good.

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    Sometimes the better team wins.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 4:58 p.m.

    What is wrong with our coaching staff? You're in FG range with 31 seconds. You kick the FG and try an onside kick. But no, what do they do? Run the ball, essentially giving up. Ridiculous.

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:01 p.m.

    Everyone was singing Taysom Hill's praises too soon; I held out because I know he hasn't been tested enough - or yet. He needs to stay in the pocket then step up and pass instead of the irresistible itch to run! Add to that the poor play calling by hmmm... Anae, BYU may end up with one more win at home.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    BYU has a 20-something ranked SOS. Remember that the next time you claim that they have played a bunch of "cream puffs." I'm sure Texas, Houston, Georgia Tech, and Boise State would take exception to being referred to in that light.

    BYU went on the road and got smacked down by a better team. I'm not ashamed of that. It isn't often that you play a team that you don't have any chance at, but today was one of those days. Wisconsin was just too good.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:30 p.m.

    Cougars won 5 in a row, played a great Wisconsin team, no shame in losing by 10. The O-Line is always the key to Taysom Hill, Williams running well, etc....it all starts with them, they have to pass protect, have to run block, or nothing gets done.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:33 p.m.

    NevadaCoug:
    Well said. Wisconsin is better than half the teams in the top 10 right now. Tip the hat to them...only loss was a close heartbreaker to ohio state...I'm not including the ASU loss because no one else counts that against them either.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    BYU will be fine when its o-line controls the line of scrimmage. Until then BYU will compete but lose against teams like Wisconsin.

  • Northwest Coug Pasco, WA
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    Sometimes the better team wins.

    And the Cougs didn't blow a 19-7 second-half lead!

  • OmahaCoug Omaha, NE
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    Gotta love that great ESPN coverage. They have a camera following one of the BYU assistant coaches (Tidwell?) for half the game, and even throw up a graphic identifying him as Bronco Mendenhall! Surely "The Worldwide Leader in Sports" can do better than that.

    Disappointing showing by BYU, but nothing to be ashamed of against a very good Wisconsin team.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:47 p.m.

    "BYU will be fine when its o-line controls the line of scrimmage. Until then BYU will compete but lose against teams like Wisconsin."

    I agree that BYU's o-line isn't very good. But I disagree that BYU can't compete with teams like Wisconsin right now. They did compete. They didn't get blown out of the stadium. They played Wisconsin tougher than any other visiting team has done this season. Add a good o-line, and maybe Hill has enough time to make more accurate throws. Add a good o-line and the running game improves. Add a good o-line and BYU wins this game.

    But it is what it is and BYU lost to a better team.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    I agree - sometimes the best team wins - just ask ASU.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Nov. 9, 2013 5:50 p.m.

    For you whiners: Andersen set up a perfect defense. Line was 9.5 and they got 10. Wisconsin is a very good team and beat us in their house. Clearly our offensive line was not big enough and strong enough to handle their front seven. Second half was better, but the damage had been done. Refs helped them on a couple of non-pass interference calls, but they were not like the wimpy PAC12 refs protecting their teams.

    As for play calling and the usual complaints about dumb plays, the fact is that BYU played a very clean game. UW was just better this time. I'm not sure any team would have handled UW today.

    End of story.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:00 p.m.

    If you want a good laugh...go read the comments during the Utah game.....typical Utah fans, bragging, beating their chests...then silence. It is the only thing that will make Cougar fans feel better about today's loss.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:09 p.m.

    To play a team like Wisconsin this closely on the road is not bad at all. I didn't expect it to be this close. BYU is really coming along. Hopefully they can break through against Notre Dame.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:11 p.m.

    Let me say, I was a fan who knew this would be a tough game. I felt that an 8-4 season would be a solid year. Knowing that, this is difficult to say, but the coaches played not to lose instead of playing to win. I've never been a fan of Anae, he is better than Doman however. His play calling is bad! I love Bronco, but if he wants to "take this program to the next level" punting in the 4th quarter near midfield TWICE down by 17 is waving the white flag. We were not going to win that game anyway, so why not take chances to at least get a 1st down. Chances go from 1% chance to 0% chance when you give up and punt. That made me more upset then Anae's crappy play calling. If you are going to win big games, you need to take more chances end of story!

  • TamaBYU Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:19 p.m.

    And when we had the chance to make a big play, our receivers can't catch. It's not all on Taysom. Maybe its the gloves

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:27 p.m.

    Wisconsin is a very good team and will go up in the rankings through the end of the season. Our Cougars played them better than any of their competition this season. That doesn't eliminate the loss but it was a good showing. For those of you cry babies and fair weather fans that continue to ask for the heads of Anae and Mendenhall I can only shake my head in disbelief that you recognize the talent of our coaches.

  • esodije ALBUQUERQUE, NM
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:38 p.m.

    Oh, well--back to earth.

  • oaklandaforlife SLC, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    Hey All, this was a good game to watch. Sad that the "Y" lost on the big ESPN spotlight. Bring on Idaho State - My Gosh!!!!! - we need a breather.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:57 p.m.

    Didn't see the 2nd half but the first half was where they lost, particularly in he 2nd quarter. They got out-scored 10 zip that quarter. They tied in the 4th quarter and the 1st and 3rd quarters each team scored 3 & 7 or 7 & 3, so it was that poor defensive showing just before the half that was their demise. Also, when the had Wissy in a 3rd and 13 they let them have a 15 yard completion. When we had 3rd and long, well, we got a 3 yard run. At least it wasn't a blow-out and it was a road loss.

    Someone posted earlier that the team on the hill never loses at home. I beg to differ, especially this year. Today was their usual PAC 12 loss, yet again.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:01 p.m.

    Loss to a good team. Wisconsin has class.

    Congrets!

  • Stop The Nonsense El Paso, TX
    Nov. 9, 2013 7:50 p.m.

    I didn't expect a win at Wisconsin because the Badgers are scary good at home, and just have better athletes. BYU lost to a better team on the road. It happens. Are we really going to cry about it?

    Bright spots: Taysom had some great throws, and Williams was very solid.

    To improve on: Many of those great throws were dropped (Apo), the O-Line is clearly not very good and didn't get any push or allow any time to throw, and the coaches exhibited very poor game management in the 4th.

    The sky is not falling, but it is a little cloudy at the moment. Hope we can pull it together and beat Notre Dame in a few weeks. Go Cougs!

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    Sometimes the better team wins.

    And the Cougs didn't blow a 19-7 second-half lead , and at home mind you

    so before some of you haters post that hatred you need to worry about what your own team does,but then again you can,t squeeze blood from a turnip so i guess you can,t take the hatred out of a life long hater.

  • Tilka PORTLAND, OR
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:14 p.m.

    Anyone else think that a major part of the problem is that Apo can't catch the ball?

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    Wisconsin out-coached BYU in this game.

    Punting from the 32 was bad enough, but the punter couldn't even pin them down deep in their territory.

    BYU should never schedule bye weeks. They never seem prepared coming out.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    Thank goodness ASU was able to win tonight. It will help prevent an Chris B outbreak.

  • Y-Ask-Y? Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    "And the Cougs didn't blow a 19-7 second-half lead , and at home mind you

    so before some of you haters post that hatred you need to worry about what your own team does,but then again you can,t squeeze blood from a turnip so i guess you can,t take the hatred out of a life long hater."

    BYU IS my team.

    Get a clue.

  • AKFan JUNEAU, AK
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    I know there were some gentlemen running around on the field in striped outfits. Did anyone see any actual referees in this game? I mean a few fellas who act as if they have been exposed to the rule book a few times, and not just middle aged men with whistles in their mouths and flags in their pockets? I mean when a receiver is mugged while the ball is in the air in front of 80 thousand people how do you not call holding regardless of whether or not the ball is catch-able? It is not kosher for coaches to be able to complain about the refs, but as a fan, I think next time we play Wisconsin, someone should hire a few.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:45 p.m.

    Game was no where as close as the score.

    Good thing Wisconsin took the foot off the pedal mid way through the 3rd quarter or final score would have really been embarassing.

  • Utes home for the holidays Sandy, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    YaskY

    No one is fooled anymore. You're as big of a Ute as anyone.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Nov. 9, 2013 9:58 p.m.

    @54-10 AKA Chris B, Wisconsin never felt they had this game put away.

    Now, if they had been playing your utes then the Wisky second team would have been in by half time.

    Buckle up Chris. Not too many winnable games left for U to make it to the New Mexico bowl.

  • Sambonethegreat Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:15 p.m.

    BYU was pretty over-matched in this one. Curious to know how they do against Notre Dame.

  • slcjimmy SLC, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:22 p.m.

    Another post defending THE ONLY university in our State with membership in a BCS power conference denied by DN!

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    Nov. 9, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    Tilka:

    True story, but not news.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:06 a.m.

    @ Northwest Coug

    "Sometimes the better team wins.

    And the Cougs didn't blow a 19-7 second-half lead!"

    No need for the Cougs to blow any lead because BYU was never in the game. Period!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:09 a.m.

    The Badgers dominated in the trenches, with their running backs and with their blocking fullback. Their defense is solid, rarely out of position and makes the fundamental plays. BYU might actually be more athletic but Wisconsin was tougher on the LOS and more fundamentally sound. They also have an identity and BYU offensively doesn't have one. End of story...

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:17 a.m.

    @cougsndawgs

    "Wisconsin is better than half the teams in the top ten right now."

    LOL!

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:32 a.m.

    "If byu had beaten wisconsin, Virginia, and Utah, they would totally be in discussion for the BCS. (because of all the bad teams we beat)"

    -next Greg Wrubell tweet

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 1:32 a.m.

    Northwest Coug
    Pasco, WA

    Sometimes the better team wins.

    And the Cougs didn't blow a 19-7 second-half lead!

    -----------

    Nope, but BYU did lose to the better team at home for the 4th straight year.

  • 86&90UTE Holladay, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 1:41 a.m.

    Turns out the Notre Dame game is a cream puff too, now that they lost to Pitt! Pittsburgh, really, are you kidding me. Gotta luv the strength of schedule.

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    Nov. 10, 2013 5:32 a.m.

    @slcjimmy

    There's a BCS team from a powerhouse conference in the Beehive State? I couldn't tell.

    How about you focus on your team's issues with throwing to the wrong jerseys, losing to a USC squad that was practically suiting up waterboys, blowing leads against ranked division opponents at home, and facing an Oregon team that will have 10 days of pent up frustration to take out on the Utes next week?

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Nov. 10, 2013 6:14 a.m.

    Once again, the Cougars stumbled when they needed it most. I think the wide receivers takes a big part of the blame. They dropped a few more balls that they needed to catch when it was crucial. And a couple of those calls by the ref, especially the last interference call was lame. They claimed the ball was uncatchable but the defender was clearly holding on to Coffmann a few yards earlier and made him missed the ball. It should've at least be a holding call!

    Anyhow, it was a tough contest and I'm sad we came up short again. Maybe they should try and change what they do during bye week. To have all that time to prepare and then made all those mistakes baffles me. Good luck the rest of the way!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    @fender

    Yes wisconsin was the better team. This was not a game to many of us thought BYU would win. wisconsin almost never loses at home to anyone, it's a very tough place to play, especially against such a good team. Of course not many teams, or qb's, play all that well against wisconsin, they are a top 10 defense afterall. So if the measure of Taysom Hill is how he played against a top 25 team, with a top 10 defense, on the road in a place visiting teams NEVER win, his sophomore season, then we need to get you an espn analyst job.

    @Y ask Y

    While disappointing the loss was not embarrassing. Embarrassing is more like blowing a 12 point 4th quarter lead at home. But as you said, sometimes the better team wins.

  • duck Saint George, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    There was no doubt Wisconsin was the better team. It had BY FAR the better offensive line. They could protect the passer and blow holes in BYU's line at will. We could do neither! However, our play calling stunk at times. Robert Anae can't call a rushing play on virtually every 3rd down and long play--when we weren't even able to run the ball on short yardage plays against their defense. Yet, check the film. With 3rd and 5 or more yards, he called a running play every time. At least with a passing play we would have had a chance to gain the yardage, but not with a run. Also, in the waning seconds of the game, when we had no more time-outs, he still called running plays which consumed the clock. What's he thinking? Very poor clock management at times near the end.

  • bigirish OREM, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    Oh the woes of Independence! The question might be, will we ever have the better dudes at the same time we have the better competition? We're young at so many positions with a pretty mature schedule. Bronco loves it - but fans better not expect miracles, though we've still had some pretty good wins over national names who may or may not be having their best years. 8-4 might be a pretty good year considering who we're putting on the field in a first year offense change and staff. We might still have a chance against ND, but we're getting pretty banged up and not at full strength. And Idaho State and Nevada may not be pushovers if we can't field a healthy team. Thanks to those Cougs who put it all out there - but still some things to fix! Wisconsin was the best team by far we've faced, I think. Bye weeks have not been good for us either.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 10, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Tough loss against a good team. The Utah schools just can't get it done and that stinks!

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Nov. 10, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    It was finally good to see us run a screen play, and a misdirection draw. We never add variations to those attacking plays. Steps in the right direction, but baby steps unfortunately.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    On Wisconsin!

    We were just reminded yesterday that BYU can beat aweful teams and look good doing it. But when they play a solid BCS team, they will lose and look bad doing it. We see this every year under Bronco.

    When BYU starts winning and putting together winning streaks, the BYU fans will turn on the hype machine and brag about how good their team is. Then we have the Wisconsin game late in the season to prove that BYU hasn't gotten better, but still remains a mediocre team that feasts upon cupcakes to get them to bowl eligibility. Can BYU fans see the same repeated cycle year after year?

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Seen enough of this article and comments. Now I know why they started this famous "Jump Around". They started this a long time ago on a cold November or even October years. Badger fans must of frozed toward the end of first half and they started jumping around during half time and kept on going. Lol!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    Bottom line BYU has FIVE Big 5 games to prove themselves (2 at home and 3 on the road).
    And so far you are 2-3.

    Utah State (11-2) and UTEP (3-9) didn't struggle as much as BYU did at Wisconsin last year.

    Aa far as this year Wisconsin has played 2 D2 teams, Purdue 1-8, Northwestern 4-5, BYU 6-3, and will play Indiana 4-5. So as of today the only D1 team with a winning record is BYU.

    Utah did blow a lead yesterday, but our defense held a great offense in check. We have a PAC-12 defense and a MWC offense and it seems for the third straight year no starting PAC-12 QB.

  • Utes11 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    Just for all of those Jay Heaps fans.......found this on espn.
    It’s time for KU to hand the offense over to Cozart: The only time the Jayhawks moved the ball in a 42-6 loss at Oklahoma State was when true freshman Montell Cozart was in at quarterback. This is becoming a trend. Cozart’s passing needs work. A lot of work. But his ability to move the chains out of read and speed options is stark compared with when junior Jake Heaps is behind center. Of Kansas’ 15 first downs in Stillwater, 13 came when Cozart was at quarterback. Heaps had another disastrous QBR rating of 9.9, and hasn’t scored higher than 37.8 all season (50 is average). It’s past time for the Jayhawks to build toward the future. And that future clearly is with Cozart at quarterback.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 10, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    Oregon looked worse losing to Stanford than BYU, and Wisconsin. Things just happen.

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    Nov. 10, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    All week long the talk on BYU sports programs was speculation on where the Cougars would finish in the polls when they went 10-2. Fun talk, but silly, really.
    Before the season started, any knowledgeable fan would have been ecstatic with an 8-4 season, given this year's tough schedule. BYU has a real chance to win its final three games, even though neither Notre Dame or Nevada will be easy. Unless the Cougs lose two of their final three, this is a very successful regular season. A bowl win would make it superb!

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    BYU vs Wisconsin was very hard to watch. BYU was flat as a pancake. Hill didn't have the blocking and offensive line he needed. Offensive coordinator didn't call a decent game. Gary Anderson outcoached Bronco Mendenall.I truly thought BYU was a better team than what they showed. Where were are stars? Cody Hoffman, Apo did very little, we had one star perform and that was Kyle Van Noy.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    @uteology

    Ahhhh the desperation has set in for you I see. utah lost, they have lost 5 times while only winning 4 times. Spin it any way you want but it doesn't change the reality of it. That vaunted defense you are looking to deliver moral victories blew a 12 point 4th quarter lead, at home. They blew it.

    I understand the desperate desire to spin things as a positive, I really do, but no matter how you spin it they still show as losses. They are 1-5 in conference. Lots of teams have close losses, never get blown out, but lose anyway. That means they are good enough to not get obliterated every week but they still aren't good enough to win very often.

    BYU lost yesterday as well, no moral victory will console me as I hate to lose, but BYU played a top 25 team on the road, honestly wisconsin may be a top 10 team before it is all over they are very good. BYU is a borderline top 25 team at best, I understand what they are. You need to get as reality check and realize what utah is.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 4:12 p.m.

    @ Kiboo:

    How can you possibly say the Cougars don't play well against good teams? During their 5 game win streak they beat a top-15 team that still leads the Big 12 conference, a Boise State team that leads theirs, a previously unbeaten Houston team... all part of the 21st toughest schedule in the country.

    @ Kougar:

    No one phrased Taysom Hill's too soon. You're just too slow. He's the 6th best qb in the country in total offensive yardage against some very good teams. Learn to give credit where credit is due. The only thing holding him back is a subpar offensive line which doesn't protect him very well.

  • EightOhOne St. George, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    lol, you would think after reading some of these comments that wisconsin was #1 in the country!!! and whoever said that wisky was better than more than half of the top 10, get real!!! maybe 2, and that would be oregon and auburn

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 10, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Uteology

    Bottom line:

    versus BCS teams
    BYU 3-3
    Utah 1-5

    versus FBS teams with winning records
    BYU 6-1
    Utah 3-5

    Whine about schedule if it helps you sleep at night, but it won't change the fact that BYU, with the 10th ranked SOS, is ranked higher across the board than Utah.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    The BYU O-line lost this game for BYU plain and simple.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 11:33 p.m.

    BYU will improve dramatically this week and be a top team after Saturday. I will be surprised if you do not beat Notre Dame the next week. Pittsburgh (4-4 going into the game) just did and Navy lost by 4 points at Notre Dame the week before. (There is a reason Notre Dame is no longer in the top 25!) And then Nevada (3-7 with a loss to UNLV)- similar to Idaho State. I predict 9-3 which is better than predictions pre-season. However, the schedule was not as difficult as expected. (Wisconsin 22 and Texas 24 in latest poll)

    Good year - worthy of a Kraft Hunger Bowl bid.

  • JmThms Henderson, NV
    Nov. 11, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    Wisconsin is quite a bit better than their #24 ranking. The Sagarin power rankings have them #6. That is closer to being the more accurate ratings. I mean, come on, have you really seen Fresno State play? Beyond the fact that their players don't pass the 'look test' - they look like community college players. They are no where near their top 20 or 15 ranking. The Sagarin rankings have them at #53, which is much closer to reality. BTW, BYU is now ranked #19 in the Sagarin power rankings. Wisconsin is a better team than BYU this year and simply showed it. And its all at the line of scrimmage. BTW, for those who are saying that 'Utah is the best team in the state of Utah', Utah comes in at #29 in that ranking. Just the way it is.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Nov. 11, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    Cracks me up how the haters still try to flog that "BYU plays cupcakes/UU has the toughest schedule" meme. BYU has at least two decisive wins against big-time programs this year: Texas, BSU, and an argument could include the Georgia Tech game. Utah has not won a single game decisively (FCS doesn't count). They were lucky to beat every FBS team they played, including BYU, who put up better numbers, and had to play against PAC refs (as usual).

    So save yourselves some embarrassment and spend your energy urging the changes the Utes need to compete in their fancy/shiny conference.

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Nov. 11, 2013 1:38 p.m.

    @ WA_Alum&Dad

    "Cracks me up how the haters still try to flog that "BYU plays cupcakes/UU has the toughest schedule" meme. BYU has at least two decisive wins against big-time programs this year: Texas, BSU, and an argument could include the Georgia Tech game. Utah has not won a single game decisively (FCS doesn't count).

    BYU also has more losses to conference bottom dwellers than Utah. The Cougies have already lost to Virginia and Utah which puts a damper on their whole season. Utah hasn't lost to one yet. The Utes have a decisive win against Stanford which is looking a lot better than BYU's win over Texas. Boise State is average this year and nothing more. Georgia Tech? Not even close to being a great team to claim as a signature win.

    "They were lucky to beat every FBS team they played, including BYU, who put up better numbers, and had to play against PAC refs (as usual)"

    Typical BYU fan blaming the refs for your loss again! I hope you weren't one of the fans throwing garbage at the refs after the game. Classless act by your fellow BYU fans.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 11, 2013 2:10 p.m.

    "nsrichdm

    west jordan , UT

    down by 17 start of the 4th this game is over. BYU will be 8-4 for the season and will hopefully win their bowl game."

    Apparently you haven't watched Notre Dame much this season. BYU has a really good shot in that one.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 11, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    "niners

    SAINT GEORGE, UT

    So... BYU starts off the season losing, the fans whine (fire bronco, bench taysom etc.) BYU then plays a bunch of cream puffs, BYU is now so improved, Bronco is an amazing coach, Taysom for heisman!! Sound familiar to anyone? Finally they are playing a formidable opponent at the end of the season to send them back to reality unlike 2011,2012."

    That's an interesting theory only for the most part BYU has lost to the creampuffs while beating the better teams. Wisconsin is the lone exception and BYU's SOS tells the same story.

    Oh, and go Panthers.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 11, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    "54-10

    Salt Lake City, UT

    Game was no where as close as the score.

    Good thing Wisconsin took the foot off the pedal mid way through the 3rd quarter or final score would have really been embarassing."

    Wisconsin is clearly the better team but, I'm not so sure the game was closer to a blowout when there were multiple PI's overturned with "uncatchable" as the explanation in addition to BYU punting twice in sure go for it situations...

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Nov. 11, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    "However, the schedule was not as difficult as expected. (Wisconsin 22 and Texas 24 in latest poll)"

    Texas is now down Whaley and Gray in addition to an already long list of starters. Things aren't going to end pretty there.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Nov. 11, 2013 2:43 p.m.

    @Elmer Fudd
    Yes, the two losses to conference cellar dwellers is shameful--especially the second one. I still would't trade places with the Utes--or Ute fans, whose only remaining joy appears to be coming on to comment about stories that have nothing to do with their team.

    Meanwhile, doing the math, BYU has beaten four teams by 17+ points: USU, BSU, TEX and GT, two of which are BCS teams, and all four of which are in contention for their conference titles.

    And no, I don't throw garbage. But can you honestly say that the game was called straight-up? The ESPN crew called out at least two big calls against BYU, and none against UU. But I guess hiding behind the officiating is something that teams in big-boy conferences are OK with.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2013 5:15 p.m.

    We plain just got supped!!!

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 11, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    It's always nice when you actually read what I say, but obviously that didn't happen here. All quarterbacks are measured against top-flight competition...how could it possibly be otherwise? Despite the loss I gave Hill full credit for his effort and said he had "game". It's a compliment. I also pointed out that he can't carry BYU and a soft O line that can't protect him against a big, strong disciplined front like UW's. All of that was obvious, so I have no idea where your comment was going.

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    Nov. 12, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    @fudd
    And to say U beat Stanford decisively is bogus. Winning by less than a touchdown is hardly a decisive win. Find me one national commentator who thinks Utah wasn't lucky to get that win--on their home field no less.

  • dustman Gallup, NM
    Nov. 12, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Taysom needs to stay in the pocket and throw the ball. He always runs out of the pocket as soon as he gets the ball, then has no protection, then can't find an open receiver because he takes too long, then he has no where to run. He wasn't looking for a W in this game, he was trying to make a highlight reel and he failed.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Nov. 12, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    dustman

    Some of those plays are designed rollouts, because the BYU OC believes Hill can hurt a defense with his speed, if the pass isn't there. Problem with that is you can't square up and set your feet as well on a rollout. You also cut the field in half, so it's a two edged sword.

    More importantly, UW defenders were most often blowing by BYU's O line and RB, and a QB can't step up in a pocket that isn't there. I thought Hill did a very nice job throwing the football on those few occasions where he was able to step up and make a throw from the pocket.