Props to Riverton for coming out and playing hard that first half to keep it in
reach. I've said it for years, that Wing T works when you're playing
teams equal in size. But when you're playing a defense that has both size
and speed, and are disciplined, it just doesn't work for a full game. They
are so one dimensional. Once they get down, they have to throw, and they just
can't. I think the head coach at Riverton really does the athletes he has
a disservice insisting on running that offense. But the kids tried their
dangdest for sure! Nichols is so fun to watch run! I don't think
I've seen him go down on first contact once this year. Props to
Bingham's defense holding an offense that has scored a lot of points this
year to just 3 points. Next challenge, Lone Peak. A team that is coming
together at the right time of the year. Great day to be a Miner!
@GunnerTotally agree about the wing-T offense especially with the
way Riverton runs it with no option. It runs up a lot of points on bad teams
but when you meet a team with a halfway decent coach it gets shut down.Bottom line when you run the wing-T you don't win games so much as you
allow the other team to lose and no one chooses to lose a big playoff game let
alone the state championship.
You guys obviously have not seen the East Leopards play this year have ya....They are scoring 50 POINTS a game! running that offense! But they
have BIG BOYS... when you have a line you can run this offense with ease
Binghamalum: Read my post again. If you run that offense against a bigger line
you have issues. East has a huge line. Secondly, when I saw East play, they
ran more of a Flex Bone offense than a pure Wing-T.
East doesn't run the wing T
@Binghamalum:Riverton was scoring 50 points a game too. I
haven't seen East play and Gunner doubts that they actually run the
wing-T.This much I do know is that leaving defenders unblocked and
hoping they leave their assignments to chase a fake handoff/reverse only works
against bad teams. And will not win you a championship.Just ask
Riverton who has only won one playoff in their entire school history running the
wing-T. Don't even try to pull the lack of talent card either Riverton has
the largest enrollment in the state and has plenty of talent. Herriman made the
playoffs in their first season with Riverton's bench warmers.
Riverton doesnt have big dudes at all, never has, and what other offense would
you like them to run???? it did work they scored 50 points a game,
but if you play assignment football you can easily stop that defense and that is
why the Powerhouse in the state of Utah currently just stopped them with ease
after the first quarter once they figured out, to just stay putflex
bone is pretty much the same as the wing T- just more of an option, not as much
misdirection, especially for east with a WISCONSIN commit and that line ha
Bingham hasn't beat LP in the last 2 years in a row and LP just killed a
team that Bingham struggled with in the regular season. Bingham has to treat
this week as if they were playing the championship game on Friday. If they can
do that Bingham wins 49-21. Miners take State!!!
@binghamalumBut the flex bone is different than the wing-T. You
said so yourself no misdirection. The wing-T supplements sound blocking schemes
with misdirection.Lack of size didn't stop Alta from winning a
bunch of state championships this past decade. But the wing-T has stopped
Riverton from winning any.
That's my entire point. East can run something similar, (although there
are quite a bit of difference) because they have the hogs up front. Riverton
doesn't. Sure you will get 50 pts a game against Lehi, and similar teams.
But not against big, fast, well coached teams. What offense would I have him
run? For starters, one that can win you more than 2 playoff games in over 11
years. With the athletes they have there, he could easily run more of a spread
offense and be successful. But he won't. He's happy squeaking into
the playoffs, and then being 1 and done. He wasn't in it to win last
night. Proof being when they were down 29-10 in the 3rd qtr, and went for a 43
yard field goal. Had a delay of game, and then tried a 48 yarder. Looked like
they were more concerned in trying to make the score look respectable than it
did like they were trying to win the game.
All ya need is a good DC that knows how to defend and teach thier kids Right, on
how to defend the Wing-T. All year long Bingham played teams that were either
Spread or Power I offense. You don't have time to prepare for Wing-T ofense
except that week you play them. Now like Peck if you know how to defend it
you'll be successful. Peck has never lost to Miller Case Closed. And you
can not play from behind with that offense.
Dear Bingham Fans, there is a team just south of you that should not be over
looked. LP is for real and will take it too your boys if your not carefull. I
hope there are no predictions coming from you guys. You have a QB that runs like
Nickols. I hope you guys can slow him down because your not going to stop him.
Go Knights!!!!! The rest of the state is pulling for a big upset so you can
quite the southwest part of SLC down and humble them!!!!!
Goaggies1, hate much?Why is it you expect Bingham fans not to support our
team? We have the same right to show support for our Miners as you for your
Titans.As I recall, someone posted that he read the comments before the
first round games expecting to see a lot from Region 3 fans only to see Region 1
fans.What compels you to hate Bingham and project that hatred to the rest
of the state?What does it matter to you, now that Syracuse's football
season is over, who wins the football championship? Hoping Lone Peak wins
because they eliminated "the 'Cuse"?Looking at the stats of
Bingham and Lone Peak it seems that the Lone Peak defense has more to be
concerned with than the Bingham D.Stop or slow down Gajkowski and you stop
LP.Stop Scott Nichols and the Miners have Kyle Gearig, Dalton Schults,
Landon Measom and a dozen other players who are scoring threats.Let's
not forget the Miner defense has allowed fewer points than any team left in
5A.Hate us all you want. Just remember, we don't hate you. We just
want another ring.
Haha @goaggies1... Bingham haters are never satisfied, and it will never end.
After Bingham takes State all were going to hear is Bingham can't beat East
or Timpview or the U of U or BYU or the 49ers haha. Good fans cheer for their
team and not against another, and if your team is not playing, cheer for them to
build and get better and who knows maybe eventually it'll be you posting up
proud comments about your teams up North.But I think this season Bingham
deserves the State title, even if the rest of the State is rooting against them,
they put Utah on the map this year. And trust me LP won't be overlooked,
that I can guarantee. I say Bingham redeems all their losses from last season at
RES this Friday with a victory 45-3. And I say this with the upmost respect,
BINGHAM TAKE STATE!!!!!
goaggies: Your team didn't make it out of round 1. Go enjoy the off
season while the real teams are still playing!
Watching the game back now and its true Rivertons offense is woefully one
dimensional, the only positive plays were that tiny #5 getting runs up the
middle a couple lucky times. Even the refs tried to gift Riverton a drive after
going up 29-10 with two ridiculous unsportsmanlike penalties but once again
Bingham overcame the refs and their opponent. Bingham has had to continually
beat the refs and their opponents. They will take home the trophy MINER PRIDE!
@ wolvie23I deserve to comment about your last post and I just want
to bring up two things. 1- Bingham dosen't deserve to win the
Championship, they have to play for it. It's not something that is just
givin to ya. 2- Bingham did not put Utah on the map this year. There
were numerous teams way before Bingham startted winning and you can go back into
the 80's 90's and 00's before Bingham was even sniffing
championships. So thats all.3- Now if you want to know what
sport/sports in Utah have put Utah on the map your have to look at the sport of
@ therefWhen I said Bingham put Utah on the map THIS YEAR I meant
the year 2013, I said nothing of the 80s, 90s or whenever. Seems like each year
the team that takes State usually makes the most noise nationally. What other
team in Utah has traveled out of state to beat the #1 team in that state? What
other team in Utah was able to come back from a 17 point deficit to win against
their rival? What other team in Utah is ranked in USA Today's top 25? Only
Bingham from Utah and Bingham only. So yeah for THIS YEAR, I would say this
Bingham team has the heart and talent deserving of a State Championship. Go
Tharf: He's talking about sports that have more than 10 spectators here in
Speed kills the wing T offense. In 5A you have too much speed on defense and the
misdirection which goes for touchdown in 4A, is a 30 yard gain in 5A. I know
Riverton scores 38 points a game, but when they played a team with good
athletes, they lost. You are going to win your share of games....but when you
hit the playoffs....those wins are far and few. Coach Miller
believes in his system, and the kids do as well. I just think he needs to add a
few more wrinkles (option, different formations, more passing) to enhance his
style of ball. I like watching different style of teams, but who was the last
team to win the state title in 4A-5A football running the wing T?
Ya Bingham has done alot this year and very deserving of what the have done. But
ya know that the USA today is just like the AP poll of college football. These
are writers of this news paper that don't spend a lot of time on High
School football. If ya look at maxpreps you will get another ranking for them,
if you look at Scouts.com you will get another ranking for them which arent even
in the top 40. East is ranked higher then Bingham in both Max and Scout. But I
don't really take High school rankings to seriously, there are over 6,000
high schools in America. Do you really think they have time to look at every
single school to give them a fair ranking, no they just go with names that have
been there. And @ Gunner More than 10 spectators? Rugby your so
goaggies1Sorry Grapes, becuse the CUSE is out; one and done. Told
you so. LP is not very good and will lose by 20+ to Bingham. Syracuse lost to a
Mediocre LP team. Cuse made bad decisions passing by QB, Recievers caught ball
on their knees, missed tackles by the whole D-fense, DE did not contain on the
edges, and bad play calling by the O-corrodiator. Next year Cuse will be lucky
to be 4th in Region, no talent coming back.
Yes, Sorry Grapes Not Sour Grapes. Sour Grapes if Cuse even had a legit team;
Sorry Grapes is because they did not even belong in the Quarters or Semis.
@Old ball coachNo one has won state running the wing-T at least not
the way Riverton runs it. That's the point. Back in the
80's and 90's several teams won a state running the triple option out
of the wing-T formation but that's different plays from the same formation.
Plus EVERYONE was running the triple option back then so you could still win
games in spite of a fundamentally flawed offense cause the team you were playing
was running the same flawed offense.Bottom line: Not blocking people
in hopes that they screw up = No state championshipIn Bingham's
system every defender is accounted for with someone assigned to block him. This
system put the outcome of the game in your own hands. You win because you went
out and beat the guy lined up across from you rather than hoping he beats
@ tharef-Polls don't really matter but Bingham tops East in
every one of them right now.
Bingham took a BIG jump up this week. It's kinda funny so I went ahead and
looked up Jordan and they're ranked 400th in the country after turning in a
top 15 last year. Now tell me the High School polls are 100% right on. And East
is around 70th ? Probably because they're 4A but who knows.