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Dan Liljenquist: Sen. Mike Lee's actions since shutdown are encouraging

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  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 5:43 a.m.

    Rather than make speachs to conservative organizations has our Senator Lee introduced any legislation that has passed and become law?

    His role in the government shut down which he now seems to be down playing is unacceptable to me.

    We lost out when the Republican Party choose him over Bennett .

    I would like to see him become a one term Senator.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 5:53 a.m.

    Huh?

    What has he even done other than have a pep rally in South Jordan?

    Seriously, what has he done in the... 2 weeks? Since the shutdown?

    Nothing of significance would be the key answer here. Dnews is just grasping at straws here in order to rebuild their boy's image.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 7, 2013 6:13 a.m.

    “Frustration is not a platform. Anger is not an agenda. And outrage, as a habit, is not even conservative … For us, optimism is not just a message — it’s a principle."

    What has been the GOP platform if not for Anger, Outrage, and Pessimism?

    It appears to me that their platform consists of opposing any idea that is not their own.
    It is right in line with Mitch McConnell's #1 priority, which failed.

    They passionately hate the ACA but in all these years have not put forth one piece of legislation to fix or replace it. Not one.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 6:25 a.m.

    Apologist that you are, there is no action of any significance. He is unrepentant of his destructive behavior, and I've seen nothing but a few words that he is changing his waywardness.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 7, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    Lee was certainly right about Obamacare. Peter Drucker said, " Leadership is doing the right things, management is doing things right". Lee does both!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 7:20 a.m.

    I Agreed Dan --
    It was a brilliant speech;

    However,
    Actions speak louder than words.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 7, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    Come on now you libs. Be honest for once. The real reason you hate Lee is because he dared to ask Obama for some honesty and accountability and you can't stand that!

  • Tyler D Meridian, ID
    Nov. 7, 2013 8:00 a.m.

    Worked for Reagan...

  • Sal Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    It's not true that Republicans have done nothing but oppose Obamacare. They introduced at least 22 amendments to the bill, all of which were rejected by Democrats. Now the Democrats are scrambling to make some of those changes. They will need Republican support:)

  • carpoolmom SOUTH JORDAN, Salt Lake
    Nov. 7, 2013 8:29 a.m.

    I for one was very disappointed that you Dan stood against Senator Lee for his stance since he was the only one that kept his pledge. I don't know of many people that did more than myself to help you win against Hatch. I thought you would be another Lee. I realize now there are very few people that will stand for principles and do the unpopular thing. Lee has always been for getting along unless the getting along with Congress makes the people suffer.

  • SG in SLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    Mountanman

    "Come on now you libs. Be honest for once. The real reason you hate Lee is because he dared to ask Obama for some honesty and accountability and you can't stand that!"

    Not at all. First, I think that's a gross mischaracterization of what Senator Lee did. He was nowhere near that collegial; I believe that he was motivated by utter contempt for the Obama administration and a desire to politically damage it, rather than any desire for the Obama administration to be more open and accountable.

    Second, I certainly don't believe that the Obama administration can do no wrong; on the contrary, there are a number of actions taken by this administration with which I am disappointed, and I readily concede that the ACA was not "ready for prime time" (though I think it is preferable to the previous status quo, even if only marginally so).

    And finally, I don't hate Senator Lee. His desire for fiscal responsibility certainly has merit (though I don't necessarily agree with him on what constitutes "fiscal responsibility"), but his methodology and view of everyone not like-minded with him are both deeply flawed and dangerous.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 7, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    SG in SLC. Senator Lee is dangerous? Abuses of the government are what are dangerous! Bringing abuses by the government to the light is correct behavior, not dangerous behavior! God Bless your Senator Lee! How America needs more like him!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Mountanman
    Hayden, ID
    SG in SLC. Senator Lee is dangerous? Abuses of the government are what are dangerous! Bringing abuses by the government to the light is correct behavior, not dangerous behavior! God Bless your Senator Lee! How America needs more like him!

    9:31 a.m. Nov. 7, 2013

    ===========

    I don't know --

    Sending 20 million Federal Employees home without a paycheck because of a political disagreement seems SEVERLY dangerous if you ask me.

    Mike Lee and Ted Cruz hurt AMERICANS, not Obama.
    On the contrary, they probably did the President and the Democrats a huge favor.

    The GOP just took another election on the chin,
    and the entire House of Representatives comes up for re-election in 10 short months.

    You think it's bad now,
    Just until they ShutDown the Government again in January...

    No wonder Mike Lee is now singing a little differnet tune...

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 7, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    Every federal employee got their paychecks!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 7, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    "They introduced at least 22 amendments to the bill, all of which were rejected by Democrats."

    Such as?

    You mean like Delay it?
    You mean like Repeal it?
    You mean like Defund it?

    What amendments have they offered in good faith to improve it?

    List please?

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 7, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    My Father always said he would rather see a sermon than hear one. Mike Lee's chance to side with Locke came during the pointless government shutdown debate. I will wait to see how he acts during the next "Tea Party Temper Tantrum." That's when we will find out if he's turned a corner or if he is just all talk.

  • cavetroll SANDY, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    I guess I'll hold my breath until Mike practices what he preaches. I think Mike finally saw the writing on the wall, he couldn't bully people so now it's time to pretend to be nice. Smile while you continue to stab the American people in the back, Mike. The Tea Party and its members will never embrace a multiple viewpoint party, unless it's different yet versions of their view. According to the tea party, anybody not espousing their political agenda is not worthy of sharing the same name.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    The Lee Tea shut down cost Six billion by conservative estimates.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2013 3:16 p.m.

    "American conservatism, at its core, is about gratitude, and cooperation, and trust, and, above all, hope. It is also about inclusion."
    George Orwell is having a good laugh about this one. Talk about "Newspeak."
    The fact is American conservatism at its core is about selfishness, non-cooperation, distrust, and above all, smashing the hopes of the less fortunate among us. It is most certainly NOT about inclusion. As Daisy Buchanan, that other great conservative philosopher, said, "We've got to keep them down."

  • RFLASH Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    Isn't it interesting when he decided to make his changes. If things had went better for the Tea Party, do you think he would have made this speech? No, he would not have. He knew exactly what he has been doing and it has been calculated according to what he thought would help him the most. He was sure of it and gambled and fell on his behind! Now he is worried about all the stuff that should always have been a part of what he was doing! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and shame on me! He is far from being one of our state or nation's greatest heroes! If he wants that, he might try doing work instead of trying to find the easiest way to fame!

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    Re;
    Sal in Provo,

    Help me out a little. Tell me about the ammendments in the House or the Senate that the Republicans offered that would improve the Affordable Health Care Act?

    Maybe I am wrong but were they not of the nature of delay it, defund it and defeat it?

    I would be interested in hearing more about these 22 ammendments.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    Hello Utah County Voters

    Just saw Mike Lee tonight at 4:45 pm on Fox News. Yes I watch Fox News.

    He seems to be hungry for publicity.

    Is he more interested in being on TV or is he more interested in producing legislatioin for Utah County?

    He has been in office for more than a year now. Can any one tell me what he has accomplished legislative wise for Utah County?

    Has he had any legislation enacted by the Republican controlled House of Representatives?

    Do you feel you are getting your moneys worth?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 7, 2013 7:21 p.m.

    I find people who can't learn from their experiences, and who refuse evolve over time as they learn, useless. If what is portrayed in this piece is true, then good for Lee.

    If one can learn from their past failures, they are far more worthy than someone that will not try at all. I think people underestimate just how difficult Washington is... and go in bright eyed and idealist. The problem is none of that ends in results. Those who learn to work with the other side, learn to take small victories, than trying to win the war all at once, are those that are most effective.

    Maybe Lee is coming to that understanding too.

  • Sal Provo, UT
    Nov. 7, 2013 10:16 p.m.

    Joe Blow,
    I'll give you two amendments of the 22 rejected by Democrats: One,put a cap on the amount trial lawyers and victims can receive from medical malpractice lawsuits. Two, make insurance portable across state lines.

    Go Google the rest and stop swallowing liberal media kool aid.

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    Nov. 7, 2013 11:48 p.m.

    This continuing saga is the story of the son of a famous and beloved Utah individual.
    Now because of his questionable behavior, he is disappointing even those who stood up for him during his personal difficult economic situations of his recent early political years.
    He is not the man his father was.
    Appears he is not becoming the type of politician our country is sorely in need of, either.
    It is as simple as that.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 4:59 a.m.

    I see nothing to indicate that Mikey has rehabilitated or changed himself in any way. That is NOT encouraging.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 8, 2013 5:54 a.m.

    "One,put a cap on the amount trial lawyers and victims can receive from medical malpractice lawsuits. Two, make insurance portable across state lines. "

    Sal, you just listed the sum total of the GOP health care reform. You nailed it.

    Tort Reform and Insurance across state lines.

    That's the extent of their plan.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 8, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    ""One,put a cap on the amount trial lawyers and victims can receive from medical malpractice lawsuits. Two, make insurance portable across state lines. "

    That would work perfectly if we could cap the actual damage someone does to someone else's life. Perhaps capping the lawyers fees would help. But you have to be able to hold a doctor or medical practitioner responsible for their actions.

    If a family looses there income because a doctor acted irresponsible, I don't want some arbitrary number placed on the damages that caused to that family. Careless behavior should not be excused from bad medical practices.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    ..and lets not forget that in every republican tort reform bill. Those who are wealthy won't have their settlements capped as they are worth more to society, you know job creators and all.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    We, the People, authorize laws to be written as long as those laws are within the limits prescribed by the Supreme Law of the Land. Since Woodrow Wilson, the Democrats have tried to minimize the Constitution so that they could rule outside of that Supreme Law. Their programs have been failures. FDR's welfare state has increased until almost the majority of Americans now have their hand out and expect the central government to fill it.

    Mike Lee stands for the Constitution. He, along with the other 534 members of Congress took an oath to protect and preserve the Constitution. Obama took a similar oath. Yet, only a very few elected officials keep their oath. What's wrong with the rest of them? Do they think that they are above the law? Do they think that Americans are too dumb to understand the Supreme Law of the Land?

    Mike Lee is a patriot. He, unlike Hatch, keeps his oath. He, unlike Hatch, has not wavered on his campaign promises. That riles RINOs and those others who stand with Wilson, FDR, LBJ and BHO.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    I fail to understand why fiscal responsibility, constitutional government and a free economy are so terrible?

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    The GOP "tent" is getting smaller and smaller. The youth voters, who actually turn out now to vote vs. yesteryear, are weary of GOP policies on marijuana and gay marriage. The GOP has alienated the poor and Latinos. Lee is comfortable in his GOP tent but unfortunately it's a pup tent.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    The fact that we sent Senator Lee to Washington is a huge positive for the state of Utah. We need those who are not willing to bow down to every spending bill that pops up. Congress must learn that just because they can spend money doesn't mean they should. Senator Lee is doing exactly what I sent him there to do.