How is it that Davis (9-0) gets paired with Pleasant Grove (8-2) in the first
round? With that record shouldn't PG and Davis have been paired with one
of the 4-5 teams? Davis is one of only two unbeaten teams in the state in 5A.
The other one Bingham (10-0) got paired with a 4-5 team. Maybe I don't
understand how the pairings get set, but that seems like a bad break for both
David and Pleasant Grove.
@Bee CarefulIt is because of the crappy way the UHSAA does their
pairings. Rather than seed the playoffs, they just go by what place you finish
in your Region and this year Region 1 Number 1 got Region 4 Number 4 and PG was
#4 due to a coin flip.
My First Round Picks5AUpper Bracket: Brighton, Herriman,
PG, JordanLower Bracket: Alta, Lone Peak, Bingham, RivertonI am
thinking all Region 3 Semis, and I will take Bingham and Brighton in a great
game, Bingham wins, they just know how to do it.4AUpper
Bracket: Olympus, Logan, East, Corner Canyon - It is a shame East and Logan are
in the same bracket.Lower Bracket: Woods Cross, Orem (despite this years
loss already to Salem Hills), Timpview, Sky ViewThe championship is Logan
and East in teh Semi Finals, I will take East3AABear River, Cedar,
Desert Hills, I know this is only first round, I think Dixie and Desert Hills
play each other in the championship. Sorry Juan Diego3AJudge,
Juab, Manti, Morgan - Judge to win it all2ASan Juan, North
Summit, Grand, Beaver, South Summit - South Summit to win it all.1ADuchesne is going to win it all so the rest does not even matter.Just my thoughts, doesn't mean I am right. I think Region 1 and 2
in 5A is weak this year, and Region 3 is just too strong.
Observation from 5A (and before you explain the tiebreaker Region 4 used, I know
how they did it, this is just a simple observation). In Regions 1,
2, and 3: the team with the best overall record was also the team with the best
region record and got the #1 seed, likewise for #2 seed, #3 seed, and #4
seed.In Region 4, there was a 4-way tie for first. The team with
the worst overall record, Herriman, got the #1 seed and the team with the best
overall record, PG, got the #4 seed.
non-conference records have no effect on the seeding and that is a good thing
Big deal, Parry. Non league schedules are not against equitable competition, so
bringing up the overall record does not mean much
Bingham will take state, everyone else is playing for second place. GO MINERS!
Only two guarantees Bingham and East wins state. The rest is just formalities.
Still have a fun time watching your teams lose 4A and 5A tourney.
utahbruin, I know that everyone has their opinion on the outcome for
this years playoff race, but you're mistaken about JD not reaching the big
one. JD will win the 3AA state title and bring it back home to draper.
Alta, Bingham, Brighton, and Jordan in the semi's at RES. We know Alta can
play with Bingham and should've won the game Thursday. Brighton and Jordan
are a toss up on the other side as well. Go Hawks! Win it all and get hot when
it matters most.
Plyxply,I don't follow you on the Alta "should've won
the game" commentary. Bingham was the better team coming in. They came
out flat and everybody saw it. Maybe they didn't take a 4-4 Alta team
seriously. I'm sure Peck took them seriously but I don't think the
team did. I give Alta credit for coming with enthusiasm, motivation and a great
game plan that they executed very well in the first half.But there
are two halves to play. Peck got his team's attention at halftime and
Bingham made adjustments and dominated the second half with some excellent play
- better than Alta had dominated the first half. Then they kneeled out the last
minute at the 3 yard line. I didn't sense that Alta gave it away. Bingham
took it from them.I can't recall any controversial penalty
calls or non-calls. In fact, I thought this was the best officiated
Alta-Bingham I can recall.I think there is a good possibility of a
re-match at RES if Alta can play that well against Syracuse. Best of luck to
the Hawks in getting there. Bingham-Alta is always a great game.
P.S.And Bingham won't be suckered by the "sneak a player
off the sideline" trick punt play again if they meet up at RES.
Some people were asking about the pairings and the seeds that came from Region
4. It is actually quite logical and fair and has nothing to do with overall
record. And it didn't require coin flips.The tie-breaking
procedures just looked at the region records of the four teams involved and how
they did against each other. Herriman and Riverton were 2-1 and Lone Peak and
Pleasant Grove were 1-2. Then Herriman beat Riverton thus they were deemed the
first seed and Riverton the second. Lone Peak beat Pleasant Grove head to head
and were deemed the third seed and Pleasant Grove the fourth.
UHSAA is terrible. Bring back Region IX and assimilate these teams into 3A or
4A. A 3AA "state" championship is no more than a glorified region title.
@Utahbruin - Just for the record, as per your 3AA comment, Dixie and Desert
Hills could meet in the Semi's not the finals. They are in the opposite
bracket from JD. So likely, JD or PV will meet either Dixie or DH in the finals.
@mykaljordanYou may be right, JD is really good, I know. I will
admit I do not know as much about 3AA as I do the 4A and 5A schools. That St.
George Region will call it, is really good I know and JD is clearly the best up
here in the North. This is s fun time of season and high school football
playoffs is a fun time of year. Good luck to your boys. I agree with you, they
just may be champs! Should be a fun playoffs.@4BSYou
are right, I apologize. To stick with my original pick. I will go with Pine
View upsetting JD and DH beating Dixie and D. Hills winning the 3AA. Sorry
mykaljordan, just picking an upset. Doesn't mean I am right. Good luck to
all, should be a fun playoff season.
A long streak has ended... Delta was unable to find consistency this year under
their new (but promising) coach, and they miss the playoffs for the first time
in 35 (I think) straight years. Great tradition at Delta, but time to pick
themselves up by their bootstraps next year and start another streak. It is
strange, though, to look at the pairings and not see them there.
Hey Caleb and footballisgoodThanks for pointing out that
non-conference records do not play into the play-off seeding. I'm pretty
sure that I did not say that they do. And while I agree that the non-region
portion of the schedule is not equitable, I think that the overall record is an
indicator of how good a team is.
The questions about why Davis has to play Pleasant Grove.It wasn't decided
by a coin toss.Herriman beat both Riverton and Lone Peak.Riverton
beat both Lone Peak and Pleasant GroveLone Peak beat Pleasant Grove.All these teams are a handfull!What i find crazy is region 2 may not win
a game against region 3.These regions are lob sided in region 3 the top 4
are guaranteed a playoff birth each year.Unless Copper Hills and West
Jordan turn things around with only 6 in the conference.With a weaker
region 2 they may want to consider a better way of getting the top 16.In
region 4 American Fork and Lehi are teams that would probably take that division
and they didn't make it.Davis will have a battle with PG and Syracuse with
Lone Peak.We do not have the best 16 teams leaving out AF and Lehi in the tough
7 team region 4.
So if the other region 4 teams played Orem, Timpanogos, and Maple Mountain
(PG's preseason not including Timpview, which was a heck of a win), or
Granger, Madison (ID), and Dixie (Riverton's preseason) that they would not
have better overall records? Your argument about overall record as an indicator
of a team's strength does not hold any water. If you schedule weaker teams
you will have a better record. I remember Monte Morgan at Lone Peak used to
schedule a tough preseason every year and would be, like, 1-3 going in to region
play, then finish first in region and go the the semis or finals, even though
their overall record was not as good as some others. Put Bingham on the
schedule of all of those teams and it is a loss for every one of them.
Getter done Bingham.Class of '82
The UHSAA needs to go to a power point system in seeding for playoffs. The only
downside to this is that there is no region champs - you play for state seeding.
In addition, it would force teams to play tougher pre-season games, and hope
that teams in their region would do the same. Arizona has a fairly sweet set
up, Utah is very archaic.
Have to agree that it's a shame when the 2 best teams end up on the same
side of the bracket. Logan and East have been on a collision course all year
long. I don't think you will hear any complaints coming out of either of
these programs. Both high quality programs who understand you have to win them
all to be champs. On paper, East looks to be unbeatable but Coach Favaro has a
knack of putting together game plans and schemes that have produced multiple
state titles. I think Logans offense will have to put up 50+ points in a
shootout to have a chance. Winner should get to play Timpview for the title.
Thats not a great gift as Timpview has shown that they can play with anyone.
Hoping for a great playoff and a Logan Title
@DTLogan's first round matchup with Bntfl is not a good draw. It was
a 10-3 game - Logan winning. Logan put up points this year, but so did their
opponents. I would not consider Logan a shoe-in. If they get by Bntfl, they
have the winner of Olympus vs Springville. I'll take Olympus in that one.
I think Logan would have their hands full if they meet up with Olympus.
Yea, and had PG gone 0-3 against those 3 teams, that'd indicate it was a
down year. I'm against playing down but some teams do it like PG and
Syracuse. To tell me those games give absolutely no input to how good (or bad)
a team in ridiculous.I'm not putting everything into this but
it is an indicator. Bingham had Herriman, Granger and Hunter, and they won all
3, indicates they are good, does not necessarily indicate they are great. Had
they gone 1-2, we'd know it was a down year for the Bingham program.What about the Herriman-Bingham game? Herriman hung with Bimgham and
everyone was amazed saying this might be a break through year for Herriman.
Your saying nothing should have been taken from that game because it was
non-Region? Even you indicated that PGs win over Timpview meant something but
it shouldn't because it was non-region? Every game provides
input. They do not all determine playoff seeding.
I think the best first round games are going to be Davis/PG and Lone
Peak/Syracuse. All 4 are teams capable of making a deep run. It's almost
a shame that two of those teams will be done week one. It should be fun. I
think Riverton could give Bingham fits in round 2.
plyxplyI agree with you that Alta, Bingham, Brighton, and Jordan in
the semi's at RES. But second time about Bingham dominates Alta win by 20+
and Brighton beats Jordan again in the same fashion as the first. Bingham
winning state in a good game.
I don't agree with you PigSkin. I would agree with Bingham being the only
region 3 team making to RES. I will be Bingham, Syracuse, Herriman and Davis.
Region 3 teams have been good this year playing their games. How many of those
teams play on artificial grass? Of those teams how many are even playing at home
during the playoffs. There is so much that goes into these games as well as
nachos, popcorn and soda. The ball bounces diffirently when the playoffs are
here. I think the best match ups are region 1 and 4 for the first round. I also
believe Northridge plays out of their head and beats Riverton at their place.
They can sling the ball around and is one of the fastest teams in the state.
They also have a good tight end. I hope your horses get some rest this week
before the game because Northridge is all over the field. Davis is tough. PG Has
a good team but I think their defense is week. When they blitz or bring pressure
the leave the middle wide open and Davis will expose them all night long. Davis
@adwrightRiverton hasnt beat BINGHAM for 10 year! I dont think the wing t
has changed and there little Running game doesnt work against Big D lineman! Bingham vs AltaBrighton vs Jordan,I think that iwll be
the 5a Semis but then against playoff football brings anything! good luck
to all teams!
Riverton gives Bingham fits? Riverton is a run first team with that Wing T
offense. Name me a running team that has given Bingham fits? Riverton would
lose by 35 points if they play Bingham.
adwightis correct that the best first round game is Davis/PG and
Lone Peak/Syracuse because anytime can win. PG will have trouble stopping Davis
undefeated QB that can run and pass. "Davis" wins in a tight one.
Syracuse might have the bigger problem stopping Lone Peak QB-Baron Gajkowski;
one of the best runners(1,181 yds) and passers (1,652 yds) in the State. He also
missed the Timpview game. Syracuse does not have running or passing numbers
anywhere close. "Lone Peak" wins in a good game. Sorry Cuse you will not
stop "Little Hansen". He does remind me of Chase.
goaggies1You got one out of four to RES, that is Bingham. You have
not watched Region 3 play, too big and strong (Offesively) for Davis and
Herriman. And Syracuse still does not have enough Offense. All they do is run
junk in the middile with no results. Like every first down, too predictable.
Sorry Cuse. All Region 3 in RES.
WiseacreNo disrespect intended. No easy games to get to RES. 1st
BTFL game was close but Logan offense has got progressively better.
Championships usually come down to defense and Logan D has been pretty solid all
year. Most games they had 2nd and 3rd string in by early 3rd quarter on both
sides due to runaway score. Don't know how you can bet against Logan
making it to Semi to face East. East is an interesting team. Clearly they have
the most talent in 4A if not the whole State. However, we have seen this
before. Dominate all year then get beat at State. Favaro has been a major
thorn in East coach's side dating back to Park City 2007. I'm sure he
is pretty motivated and this year I think he has the best team he has ever had.
I would not bet on Logan but I would not be suprised to see them give East all
they want and more
@wiseacre,You must be an East fan. I can see right through your post
because if I were you I wouldn't want a thing to do with Logan because we
all know how that has worked out for you in the past.
Just like Jordan being far superior to everyone in 5A last year...East and
Bingham are the same for this year. No one can compete with them...everyone is
playing for 2nd place in 4A and 5A. This years Davis team is far weaker than
last years Syracuse team from Region 1 and this years Alta is no better than
last year's average Alta team. Lone Peak, PG, Riverton & Herriman,
Davis and Syracuse are very similar...just depends on who shows up...none of
them have a talent advantage. Brighton overachieved so far this year, I
struggle to place them any higher than the rest of the pack. It is all
Bingham's to lose.
Parry, now you are taking things out of context. You were talking about the
overall record. Your words. Now you are saying that looking at the games
themselves provides input. Of course they do! I agree 100% that preseason
games need to be looked at to provide input. But that was not your initial
point, which was (and this is what I was responding to) about the overall
record. If you meant that to be an argument for looking at the preseason games
themselves, I probably would have not said anything.
PigSkin, I have seen in person region 3 play this year and they are good sized I
will give you that. They in know wise are any way shape or form the same size of
Jordan Junior College team from last year. They where all big, so we have seen
big. UtahFootballguy, I like you. You can see through alot of what
other people people cant. I believe what your saying about Davis. Good team,
everything needs to work for them to win. I believe if Cuse and Davis would play
again this year, Cuse would win by two touchdowns and maybe more. I believe
Bingham is the team we are all gunning for. Dont forget, the Cuse was the last
team to beat Bingham. Goodluck!!!!!!
Please, please lets not go to some silly arbitrary power system to seed the
play offs. Do we need to remind people in Utah of how bad the BCS has been,
using their system?It's a high school championship. Regional
match ups, if they stay matched up for more than two years at a time, mean
something. And if you want to be state champs, you have to win the last few, no
matter when the toughest team is your opponent. This isn't designed to
figure out who is fourth or fifth...it comes down to the two teams that survive
the playoffs, and then play one game to decide which trophy they take home. All
the rest is just weeding out the rest.Meanwhile, in other
states...they don't take 80% of all teams to the playoffs. If you
weren't top two out of 11 or 12 region teams, you didn't go to state
at all where I grew up.
"The 'Cuse' is the last one to beat Bingham."If
Syracuse can get past Alta this is all Coach Peck needs to say to his players to
unleash a monster worse than the won they faced last year at State.
So watching 5A all year the PG and Davis game will be the game of the week.
Watching both teams I think PG pulls out a win. My upset watch game. I think
will be riverton vs northridge. I have watch both don't sleep on northridge
in round one. I can see this being a upset game. The Other fun game to watch is
Syracuse and Lone Peak. I think lone peak will win this one in a really close
game, but wouldn't be surprise if Syracuse wins.
Waterboy, He did tell his players last year and they got worked. One team made
adjustments and the other didnt and you know the rest of the story, Bingham is
good. But beatable.
@rural sports fanI like the power point system - it could work here
in Utah. However, I think the real problem with UHSAA bracket layout is that not
enough schools are in the state tournament. The size of the bracket aligns the
best schools in the same bracket which allows them to meet in the quarters or
semis rather than the championship game. The only way to eliminate that is to
increase the amount of teams in the playoffs to 16. Doable, Yes. UHSAA willing
to change? NO.
Yes I know there are already 16 teams in bracket - my bad, I meant to rank them
1 - 16, based off power points (crazy yet logical algorithm). Just like NCAA
Hoops - East would be 1 seed and for the sake of it, corner canyon 16th, Logan 2
seed vs Spanish Fork 15th, Timpview 3 seed vs Orem 14th seed. Problem solved.
Yeah they're beatable... but not by anyone in Utah. Last year was last
year. Bingham won't take any team lightly again like they did Alta. Expect
to see a juggernaut Bingham team throughout playoffs.
Goaggies1If Cuse played Davis again they would win. This is real
life football, they had their chance and got out coached and out played. The
same thing will happen in this years playoffs out coached and out played!
Bingham will run the Table and win State. Cuse is too small and lacks Offensive
caller too get the championship game. Just dumb luck last year, then their true
talent showed up. State deserve a competitive game this year. So Cuse should
just bow out early, watching Cuse is as exciting as watching paint dry or get a
I have looked at Riverton and to me they look pretty solid on both sides of the
ball. I haven't seen much of Northridge but I have a really hard time
believing they can upset. To be honest, I think Riverton may even put up a fight
against Bingham, specially if Bingham goes in sleeping like they did with Alta.
PigSkin, when was the last Cuse game you saw? Really when did you see them play
last? You predicted Cuse would win 3-4 games this year. Quess what they have won
a few more than you thought. Dumb luck? Tell that to Boston right now about how
they lucked into winning so far this series. You said at the first of the season
the Cuse would be lucky to win 3-4 games if that. Cuse is too small did you say.
Ask Brian Mone and Highland if they were too small. They had a quarterback
(soph) who had only started 3 total high school games before that and we still
won. How many D1 players do they have on there team. You have probably seen 1
game and that was the Davis game on TV. If you only base things off one game
then your good. Like I said Cuse is a diffirent team since you saw them on TV.
We do have a trick up the middle play called the fumbleruski. Dude it works.
Very tricky. PigSkinFan I would love to sit with you and watch the paint dry. Go
Interesting comments. I am not convinced that the 4 way tie in Region 4 is an
indication of top to bottom quality but more an indication of mediocrity. Only
time will tell. Region 1 haters may need to be reminded that a Region 1 team
has been in the state championship game for 6 straight years. I also don't
believe that Bingham should be anointed as yet. They are vulnerable to several
teams from Utah. East is much more dominant in 4A. Pleasant Grove needs to be
wary of the overall team speed of Davis. Davis and Syracuse play assignment
sound defense which is rare at this level. This, I believe, is the reason they
have had the success they have had this year. I am a bit concerned about the
size of Pleasant Grove but I do remember the last visit of a big and highly
talented(several D1 guys)PG team to Kaysville and they were dominated by a
well-coached Davis team with no D1 guys. Good Luck to all the teams this
Correction to my last post: A Region 1 team has been in the state championship
game 5 of the last 6 years.
Round 1:Brighton over CottonwoodHerriman over LaytonPleasant Grove over Davis (upset alert)Jordan over HunterSyracuse
equal to Lone PeakAlta over TaylorsvilleBingham over WestRiverton over NorthridgeQuarterfinals:Herriman over
Brighton (upset alert)Pleasant Grove over Jordan (upset alert)Syracuse/Lone Peak over AltaBingham over RivertonLook for
Herriman, Pleasant Grove, Syracuse and Bingham to make it to RES.
Why is Herriman seeded first?It wasn't a coin toss. My
understanding is that three of the teams had both of their losses to two of the
other 4 in the playoff group, Herriman only lost to one of the other three. Not
saying that's fair, but what I was told by one of the coaches.And I think it would be a bad idea to make overall record the tiebreaker.
Herriman intentionally scheduled a brutal non conference schedule (and paid a
price in injuries and concussion to some key players). Why should we reward
teams who schedule only confidence building easy teams?
It is clear as can be that Pig has a son living in Syracuse that tried to play
football and failed. Probably a "10 play kid" back when he was 10. Syracuse is well coached and has a good QB. Their line is undersized, on both
sides of the ball but they give 100% on every play. Don't believe me? Ask
last years Bingham team about that goal line stand. It was last year. However,
all but one of those d-linemen are back.Bingham is, and should be the
prohibitive favorite this year. Syracuse will need a great game to beat Lone
Peak.But Pig, your comments show a lot more about you than they do the
Dodger: Not that last year means diddly squat this year, but you also forget in
that goal line stand last year, Bingham's QB was playing with a torn up
ankle, and barely able to walk let alone run. Region 1 will be lucky to get 1
team in the quarters.
Big BenzoYou actually have the same picks i like.We will see pretty
fast which conferences are stronger and weaker than expected.
footballisgoodNo harm. I just saw the first comment about Davis at
9-0 playing PG at 8-2 in the first round and started looking at overall records.
So I posted my observation - I'll stop posting my observations.
goaggies1 and Dodger60You say Syracuse is well coached and has a
good QB. Some reality now.Look at the Offensive Stats in Region 3
and 4. Then compare them to Cuse Offensive Stats. It will make you guys think
different of the Cuse coaches and Offensive. Even the Syracuse QB stats compared
to your own Region 1 looks embarrassing. Your QB has the least yards combined
Passing and Rushing of Region 1 QBs in the Playoffs. Watch the Lone Peak QB on
Friday he will put up some numbers on the Titans. Don't plan on
going to RES, and if you get lucky again; Bingham will do what Jordan did last
year to the Cuse. Just telling the truth about Cuse, nothing personal.
I don't know what happens in other areas of the state but in my area of the
state, Davis County, there is major recruiting going on. Syracuse High School
recruits players from other schools boundaries, they have no fear of the UHSAA.
I guess as long as you fill the paperwork out right you are ok. Even if you
don't (see East High last year) you will still be ok. It is sad these
unethical coaches cannot just play with the players in their boundaries, it has
become an all out recruiting war. Some of the teams that are not in the
tournament are doing things right and not recruiting, yet they miss out on state
playoffs and competitive games to watch for thier students and parents. Does
anyone else care about this??
@JDigger24Riverton will never give Bingham a challenge, the triple option,
wing T or whatever they run feeds right into the teeth of Bingham's
defensive schemes, when was the last time Riverton beat Bingham? You keep saying
they better not sleep or fall behind or whatever against such and such team,
they've already done that!! and yet here they are undefeated the #1 team in
the state!!!, you better hope and pray Jordan doesn't meet Bingham again in
Yes it is a big problem. The UHSAA needs to find a way to monitor it better and
take action against schools that are recruiting. Any student that plays for a
school that is not inside the boundary of where they live should get background
checked and communication checked for illegal communcation between coaches and
parents and be banned from playing. It's running rampant and ruining the
competitive nature of the game.
@crazyfam10 - You are correct...no coin toss was needed. The region simply
applied two separate tie breakers. Since all four teams were 4-2 in
region...the first tie breaker applied was "wins versus tied opponents".
Herriman and Riverton each had two wins and Lone Peak and Pleasant Grove had one
win. This created a tie for first place between Herriman and Riverton and a tie
for third place between Lone Peak and Pleasant Grove. The head to head tie
breaker was then applied. Herriman had beat Riverton and Lone Peak had beat
Pleasant Grove which resulted in the seeds as the now stand.I am
expecting a 3 to 1 and possibly 4 to 0 Region 4 advantage over Region 1I
am expecting a 4 to 0 Region 3 advantage over Region 2Herriman vs
Brighton; Jordan vs Pleasant Grove; and Lone Peak/Syracuse vs Alta should be
some awesome quarterfinal games!!!
Region 3, including my Diggers recruits ALOT. Probably why we're all going
to RES. Also I think every team that has won state in the last 10 years are
Jarka-rusActually I'm hoping/praying Jordan plays Bingham, cause it
would mean Jordan made it to the State Finals. Honestly tho, at this
point, I would consider it a huge success if Jordan even gets a trip to RES.
Just love that atmosphere and you gotta love leaving work early to go watch
PigSkin, if you have followed Cuse all year that's what we have been
telling you. Our quarterback has been hurtttttttttt for the first 4 games of the
season. Yeah, that's why his passing numbers are down. Guess what, he had a
deep thigh bruise and that's why his running yards are bad as well. Brock
Andersen from last years team did have big numbers as well compared to the rest
of the state. He was efficient with what he did. Cole does the same thing. Takes
what is given. Thats why hisnumbers aren't very high and we don't
expect him to keep up with everyone in the state. Just be consistant is what we
ask for. Thanks for telling us stuff we have been trying to tell you being a Pig
Skin Fan. Thanks again for your insight.
JDigger24 - Jordan has a paved smooth road to the semis, so don't pat
yourselves on the back for making it to RES. It is a foregone conclusion as far
as I am concerned, the brackets lined up well for you guys.Big Benzo
- your upsets crack me up. We will see how many Region 4 teams even make it to
the quarters, let alone upset teams to get to the semis.Four things
you can bank on right now. 1. Herriman won't be at RES. 2. Davis cannot
beat Jordan. 3. Riverton cannot beat Bingham. 4. Alta is the only question mark
of whether it will be an all Region 3 semifinal. Bingham, Jordan, and Brighton
show up at RES sleep walking, this year's tourney is weak!
SS Rams aren't getting any love after upsetting the two most storied
programs in all of 2A, San Juan and Millard. They will be in the mix come trophy
It seems to me that there are way too many classifications and too many teams
make the playoffs in Utah. Bingham plays a 4-5 west team in the first round. I
would think that 4 classifications would be perfect. Here in Washington, you
better take first or second in your region to make the playoffs. Most teams in
state have no more than 2 loses. No team with a losing record goes to state
Spokane Ute,No Doubt there are too many teams...too many teams are
rewarded for winning 2 region games, rather than a complete season. No way a 2-8
or 1-9 teams should be in the playoffs like 3A. In 5A you have a 4-6 teams that
have no business in the playoffs, and teams like AF who are out! That's not
right.Don't get me started with how unbalanced the Regions are
in 5A. I think the top three teams from each region get in, with the Region
Champs getting a bye in the first round. This year would look like this:C-wood @ Brighton winner plays HerrimanHunter @ Jordan winner
plays DavisLone Peak @ Syracuse winner plays T-villeNorthridge @
Riverton winner plays BinghamThat or I wouldnt have a problem with a
seeding process...#1 Bingham, #2 Davis, #3 Herriman, #4
Taylorsville, #5 Brighton, #6 Syracuse, #7 Riverton, #8 Hunter, #9 Jordan, #10
Lone Peak, #11 C-wood, #12 Northridge, #13 Pleaseant Grove, #14 Alta, #15
Layton, #16 West
Pig SkinYou obviously know nothing about Syracuse. Go Aggies also
left out the fact that Tracy has not played more than 3 quarters the last 4
games because of what the Syracuse coaches see as large halftime leads. They
don't run scores up in Region 1 like the Salt Lake schools do. The coaches
also do a pour job of turning in stats to to Deseret News. The stats you are
seeing are not even close to the real stats. They tried early in the year to let
Fonua play mostly defense and in the Davis game he touched the ball on 1
offensive play. He has averaged almost 200 yards of total offense since. He is
one of the most explosive players in the state. I have not seen Lone Peak play
and wont pretend to know anything about them. Stats are only a small indication
of how good a team really is.
Keep on discounting what Alta will do, but really ballcoach, how can you put
Alta as a 14 seed? They will kill your #4 seed Taylorsville, they had Bingham,
Jordan, and Brighton all in close games they could've won, and they beat
Lone Peak without even playing starters most of the second half.If there
were seeds this is how I'd put them.Bingham, Brighton, Jordan, Davis,
Alta, PG, Herriman, Riverton, Syracuse, Lone Peak, Northridge, Layton, Hunter,
Taylorsville, CW, West.It will be an all Region 3 semi's. Even the
Region 1 coaches admit their region is down, Region 4 could get one in with some
luck, and Region 2 is pathetic.
Defensive End-Salt Lake teams don't run up the scores. We just actually
have offenses that can put up points......
Defensive End: Please show me where a team ran the score up. Region 1 may
realize that no offense in that region is good enough to come back from 14 pts
down, so that is what they consider a "safe lead". But here in the
valley where we actually have offenses, 14 pts isn't safe. Like I said in
an earlier post, Bingham is usually up 40 pts by half against the poorer teams.
At that point, you don't see a starter the rest of the game. Just because
you see a 42-0 game, don't assume they "ran the score up". That 42
pts came mostly in the first qtr. Again, the offenses in Region 1 are happy
with 21 pts, so that may be a safe lead. That's not the case with real
teams that are able to put up 42 pts.
Lots of excuses why the Cuse Offensive does not put up big numbers. I have more
for you lack of Offensive creativity that Region 3 and 4 have, size and talent.
Region 2 won't make out of the first round and Region 1 won't make it
out of the second round. All Region 3 at RES. Region 4 might sneak one in PG or
Herriman. Still Region 3 Final. Bingham wins State easily.
pig skin fan, I agree that Bingham should win the title, but I don't think
they are that much better than everyone else. Yes they are better, and better
coached, but crazy things happen in the playoffs and there are enough good teams
out there who could end up on top this year. I agree it's a Region 3
semi-finals, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan is in the title game.
Alta could knock off Bingham, could. Can't wait for it all to start. PG
vs Davis should be a doozy, I'm picking PG in a close one. PG seems to
know how to win the close games.
Plyxply: I give Alta a ton of credit for how they came out against Bingham last
week. But honestly I really do think the Bingham team overlooked them a bit,
and came out flat. I don't think the coaches did, but the players
definitely did. It's a rivalry game, so anything can happen. But I really
think that first half was a huge wake up call to that Bingham squad. I
don't think you'll see them overlooking anybody in the playoffs. And
I think they just have too much talent to let what happened in that first half
happen again. I think it woke a sleeping giant.
Those of us who have seen the Bingham/Alta games for the past 10-15 years know
that this years Alta team is a shadow of what they have been in the past, no
wonder the 9-0 kids at Bingham who hadn't had a real challenge since the
Valor game, would have a slight hiccup that they would just walk out and whoop
their cans, Alta played great yes but when Bingham finally woke up it was
business as usual, nobody can hang with them for 4 quarters. Coach Peck
certainly fired up his team at half time but it was actually the taunting
actions right before the half by #65 on Alta's O-line that gave Bingham the
wake up call they needed. Memo to any team Bingham faces in the playoffs, keep
your ego in check.Everybody's got a game plan until they get punched
in the mouth!
I hope Taylorsville comes out and rolls Alta so we don't hear any more all
region 3 semi's and final. Taylorville do all of us a favor and beat
@goaggies1the same T-ville team that got rolled by West? Who will get
rolled by Bingham by 50 ?
Bingham had several "real" challenges before Alta. Keep in mind they
started out loosing to both Brighton and Jordan.
I like Bingham, but don't forget about Brighton? They have a big line and
2, yes 2 very good backs,one being in 9th grade and Osa Musina being recruited
by a bunch of D1 programs. Jordan could get hot as well, though they will need
to put up a bunch of points to hold off one of these teams. I also like Herriman
as a dark horse, tough probably not quite there yet?4A East is
one,Timp/Logan two, dark horse Olympus *see Herriman
@goaggies1I as well am picking a stunner in first round. I think
Jordan (sorry Beetdiggers) and or Alta have a bigger challenge in front of them.
Yeah, sure it's easy to overlook a poor region, but you can't
discredit them completely. Let's be realistic, neither Alta or Jordan has
been consistent week to week, and who do you think will have more hype going
into this game? I see Taylorsville along with Hunter playing UP to Alta's
and Jordan's level and squeaking out an upset. Taylorsville is far more
likely, as Hunter usually ends up beating themselves.
Get real Region 2 will be similar to last year out the first round. No question!
Region 1 and 4 very similar chance to the second round. Region 3 will go all the
Outside of Valor, who was the "real" challenge for Bingham? Bingham
often starts out giving up a first drive TD. And Brighton actually was down 7-0
I believe and then went down and tied it up. 7-0 doesn't constitute a
challenge. It constitutes their defense getting dialed in on what the offense
One word to describe each 5A region. Region 1. ---MediocreRegion 2. ---WeakRegion 3. --- DominatingRegion 4. ---TenaciousRegion 3. Rolls to State Champions. End of 2013 football season!
Taylorsville deserves one more shout out before their game tomorrow with Alta.
These boys have worked hard all year to get to this point of the season. They
have the weapons both offensively and defensively to shut down Alta. There is
not a lineman on Alta's team that can block Mori Savini one on one or
double team. If Alta does double team Mori that will leave someone with one
blocker. Don't kid yourself, Taylorsville is big and fast and can mess with
game plans. Taylorsville has nothing to lose playing Alta. Alot of people have
Alta beating Taylorsville already and are moving them to the semi's to play
Bingham. That is enough fuel for a coach like Rod Wells to motivate his team to
play hard tomorrow. Rod and his coaching staff had done a great job this year
getting their boys ready to play. The game against West ment nothing. They
needed to rest their boys and that's what they did. Rod, Mori and the rest
of the Taylorsville team are a bunch of studs and ready to give Alta the
business tomorrow. Magic happens!! Go Taylorsville!!!!!
I know nothing about Taylorsville except they have had a great year. They should
be proud of their success. 2 years ago, Syracuse, a 4 seed, we're told they
had no chance against powerhouse Alta. defense can't hold hawks down. Guess
what? 16-10 Titans. Last year, Titans, 1seed, couldn't stop the hawks, too
much offense, defense too small. Result, Titans win again. Just sayin, Play your
game and don't believe the hype. There is a reason they are a 4 seed.
Liff,nicely said. Go Taylorsville!!!!!!!
@ Spokane Ute."It seems to me that there are way too many
classifications and too many teams make the playoffs in Utah."In
Washington, there are also 6 classifications. 88 teams making the playoffs."Here in Washington, you better take first or second in your region
to make the playoffs."Not true. Take a look at the brackets. There are
#4 and #5 seeded teams all over with some districts sending their #6 place
teams."Most teams in state have no more than 2 loses. No team
with a losing record goes to state here"Again, not true. Check the
records. 88 teams do not have 2 or less losses, and, yes, there are teams with
losing records that make the playoffs.
Just a fun time seeing teams advance and the agony of defeat. RES is the best
place to see the tourney. Can't wait see the East vs Logan and Brighton vs
Jordan rematch and Bingham vs Alta rematch. And then there was four at RES.