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  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:32 p.m.

    Just finished watching the game...sadly for the Utes, they ended up on the wrong end on this one. Disappointing followup to last week's victory; better luck next week.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:32 p.m.

    This is one wacky football conference! Arizona was suppose to be the also-ran of the league and they just throttle the Utes. Maybe the whole conference (except Oregon) is overrated. Just when the Utes beat # 5 Stanford and Give #8 UCLA all they want they lose to a horrible WIldcat team. Is it time for Coach Whit to move on down the road. If he were coaching in Provo and having these results he'd be on the hot seat every week. I have no idea why this guy is getting a pass. He makes a boat load of money to WIN games and he's blowing it!

  • Lifelong Ute Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:41 p.m.

    We lost. Let's not pay attention to regional programs fans whose seasons were over after week 1. We showed to the world we can play with anyone in the nation last week. We can also lose any week(given the competition we face). But I can't think of anyone who wishes we were beating up MWC programs still. This program is headed in the right direction. We'll welcome any fans looking to join a program that actually has a future.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:50 p.m.

    Travis Wilson has faced a ton of adversity this year. It should be said that the loss of his best friend off of the field hurts more than anything. Against Oregon State Wilson played his guts out but Utah lost 51-48 in overtime when the winning score went right through Walker's hands for the OSU TD. Oregon State has since shown themselves to be a good team. Then the sick game (UCLA) where Wilson was in bed for three days saw him play with heart but throw 6 interceptions (a few of them unlucky). Still, Utah despite being -5 in the turnover ratio had a potential game tying TD caught by Murphy in the endzone one shoe length out of bounds. Now tonight, Wilson's hand injury clearly effected him. Trailing 20-7, Utah had to pull Wilson. Shultz rallied and Utah again showed heart and toughness, but lost. The three losses have been snake bitten ones. Phillips finally missed his first FG and that was huge since Utah was forced to go for it down 28-24 with three minutes left. If it was 28-27, a chip shot FG would have been the call.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2013 11:51 p.m.

    Back to the drawing board for the Utes. I think overall the PAC-12 is much more competitive than people give credit. Utah will likely drop games to Oregon, ASU, and my trojans. And I really wouldn't be surprised if WSU wins a tough one in Pullman. As I've been saying. It won't be until 2016 that Utah is truly in the PAC-12 title hunt.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:04 a.m.

    @FightON,

    Utah was a field goal away from the Pac 12 title game in our FIRST season.

    Yes, USC was ineligible. So even taking that into account we were a field goal away from being the second best team in the Pac 12 south.

    Any team that finishes 1,2,3 are "in the hunt"

    We were in the hunt our firs season.

    And we will be most seasons.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:05 a.m.

    Our rush defense was pretty bad today. Surprised AU ran over us for 300 yard. Hopefully Wilson recovers quickly. Phillips was anything but clutch. Next up at USC, another tough game... Life in the PAC-12 isn't easy.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:05 a.m.

    @Rockarolla

    Did you watch the game? Utah did not get throttled. They lost their third game where victory was a fingernail out of their grasp. The three losses this year are very tough ones to deal with. An overtime loss to OSU, a UCLA defeat where Utah lost on the last play when Wilson was sick and threw 6 INTS. Then tonight Wilson had to come out with a hand that would not allow him to throw. After a pick 6, Utah came back and lost a close one.

    The Utes are a good team that is a year away. Wilson has battled injuries, sickness, and the loss of his best friend (rough go of bad fortune for him). Jake Murphy and Kenneth Scott are out for the year. The ball is not bouncing Utah's way but they will grow from this and return most their best players next year.

    Utah is a tough minded group despite being inexperienced. Their desire to win shows in how they play. Utah knew Wilson's hand was an issue and tried to run the ball the first half (only 9 passes). Trailing two scores changed that approach. Utah rallies but loses.

  • USNGary San Diego, CA
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:14 a.m.

    Here come the excuses

  • KTar Boise, ID
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:19 a.m.

    Man alive, some of these comments are pathetic! "If only Wilson wasn't sick", "he lost his best friend," and my personal favorite, "Utah lost on the last play when Wilson was sick and threw 6 INTS."

    Please...

    Six interceptions! I've never seen anyone take a moral victory because their team was close, after throwing six picks! Utah has a losing record in the PAC - again.

    Get used to it.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:25 a.m.

    Despite the whiny denials, the Utes are well on their way to their third straight losing PAC 12 season.

    The one "improvement" for this season versus their two previous seasons, the Utes didn't start the season 0-4 in conference. This season, the Utes waited until the 2nd half of the season to start their 4-game conference losing streak.

    @Arizona 24-35
    @USC guaranteed loss
    ASU guaranteed loss (throttle Washington tonight)
    @Oregon guaranteed loss

    to get bowl eligible, the Utes will have to sweep @WSU and Colorado.

  • Fight On! St George, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:32 a.m.

    Chris B.

    ...... you lost to a colorado team that had not won a road game in THREE YEARS.

    I feel sorry for you if you honestly think Utah had or has any chance at being an elite member of this conference. The south division was terrible in '11, which is obvious considering only 1 out of the 6 teams in the Division still has the same head coach. You guys had a great win at home last week, but your first game out of Utah you get spanked by a team that my injury stricken trojans handled easily. You are currently 1-3 in conference play. Come to grips with reality.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:33 a.m.

    Chris B

    Besides USC, Utah was the only team in the PAC South to finish with a winning record in 2011, yet even with the PAC South skids greased for U, with no Oregon or Stanford on the schedule, and USC on probation, U couldn't win a home game against a 10-loss team that hadn't won a road game in four years.

    Pathetic.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:36 a.m.

    @gdog3finally:

    What game were you watching? Carey had his foot on the throttle the whole game - and we got throttled! He looked like he was running track. Our secondary got burned, too. Tonight's offense was as unimaginative, except for the flea flicker, as last week's game showed great preparation.

    Of course we're thrilled to be out of the MWC, but let's prove we're PAC-12 quality by beating a down SC next Saturday. That's a winnable game. We know we're losing to Oregon. ASU owns us like U of A owns us. We can beat USC, WSU, and CU. Go Utes!

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:38 a.m.

    Fact: PAC-12 is overrated every year.

    Fact: Utah sits at the bottom of the PAC every year.

    Fact: Coach W should be fired at the end of the season if not sooner. Can only get his team up to beat BYU and ranked teams but can't ever beat the average Joe's.

    Fact: Anyone can beat a Top 5 team (look at Appalachian St.), even the Jazz can beat the Miami Heat.

    Fact: All Chris B talks about is how Utah comes close to being something great. Close doesn't cut it with the 'big boys'. Enough talk about the direction the Utes are headed and their potential. Where are they now?

    Pac-12 Standings
    NORTH CONFOVERALL
    Oregon 4-0 7-0
    Oregon State 4-0 6-1
    Stanford 4-1 6-1
    Washington State 2-3 4-4
    Washington 1-3 4-3
    California 0-4 1-6
    SOUTH CONFOVERALL
    Arizona State 3-1 5-2
    UCLA 2-1 5-1
    Arizona 1-2 4-2
    USC 1-2 4-3
    *Utah 1-3 4-3
    Colorado 0-3 3-3

  • Atrix Vancouver, WA
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:51 a.m.

    All I hear from Ute fans is how close all of their losses were. Do they even realize how close their wins were? It took an onside kick and holding call to beat Utah State and BYU and it took a goal-line stand to beat Stanford?

    Sure your losses were close ones but so were your wins. You win some and you lose some like all the other non-contenders. Just think...the Utes are 3 plays away from being 1-6. What happened to the 2004/2008 teams that were really good? Oh wait...that was MWC recruiting wasn't it?

    The only teams worthy of contender status are:
    Alabama
    Oregon
    Florida State
    Ohio State

    And that should be your 4 team playoff.

  • SC2SU St George, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 1:47 a.m.

    There is a very realistic scenario out there, that Utah will not be playing in a bowl game again this year. Utah can't beat the mediocre Pac 12 teams and since Utah struggles on the road (@USC @Oregon @WSU), I wouldn't be surprised if Utah's game against Colorado is their bowl game....once again.

  • Max Charlotte, NC
    Oct. 20, 2013 2:51 a.m.

    Rockarolla is a troll, guys. He is not to be taken seriously.

    Another heartbreaking loss. These will start bouncing the Ute's way (like last week). They are definitely competitive with every team they have played and a whisker away from winning. Each year a little more progress is made.

  • Ricardo Carvalho Provo, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 5:06 a.m.

    Tough loss for the Utes who are really just a few plays away from a special season. Congratulations to the Cougar fans who have, until now shown nothing but class on this board.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 5:19 a.m.

    Wow Utah what happened ,

    After last week you were going to run the Table and smell the Roses. Now you will be staying home and sniff the dandelions !

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Oct. 20, 2013 6:58 a.m.

    Bummer! Such a disappointing loss after the thrilling victory against the Cardinals! I really thought they were going to pull it off after they came back and take the lead in the 2nd half. It's the classic example of life in the trenches of competitive sports. One weekend you're on a high experiencing the thrill of victory and the next you're writhing in the agonizing pain of defeat. But like I said many times before, the only cure all is winning, just like with my Cougars. Hope the Utes will bounce back, which I know they will. The season is not all lost as of yet! There's still a chance, especially if they win out the rest of their games which I think it's very doable. I'd like to see them go bowling post season!

    Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!

  • TwinsGuy Savage, MN
    Oct. 20, 2013 6:58 a.m.

    Coulda, shoulda, woulda

    Utes lost

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. The PAC-12 has been a disaster for the Utes. They are CLEARLY in completely over their heads. They may not win another game.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    Rockarolla
    West Jordan, UT
    "This is one wacky football conference! Arizona was suppose to be the also-ran of the league and they just throttle the Utes."

    And your point is? Yeah, we beat Stanford, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Arizona IS the also-ran of the league. Er, at least they were...

  • Swiss Price, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:37 a.m.

    Hope your quarterback is back by the fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco. I want to see whos quarterback is the better passer at the end of the year. Look on the bright side at least in San Francisco the crowd will probably be rooting against BYU if not for Utah.
    To your credit you messed up Stanfords march to the PAC 10+2 south title. Hope you opened the door enough for Arizona. I want to get tickets on the Arizona side from their marketing director. It sure was fun watching the game from the broadcast booth.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:50 a.m.

    Incredibly physical game last night. I was shocked there weren't multiple concussions. The Pac-12 is intensely competitive and I suspect that Arizona will go on to have a significant amount of success this year. Watching them play, I can't imagine how they have lost two two games.

    As for the Utes, more problems at qb. Hopefully, Wilson recovers quickly and the line can give him and/or Shulz more protection.

    Tough, tough, game Utes.

  • Mr. Caveman Omaha, NE
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    Serves utah right for being so cocky thinking they'd win the PAC after barely beating Stanford who had midterms that week. A nice piece of humble pumpkin pie always does the trick.

    Baby Chris,
    Any team that finishes 1,2,3 are "in the hunt"

    Utah will always be in the hunt? Utah is down in the basement with Colorado. You are right, a hunt for the basement will always be Utah's hunting season. Next up, USC, to see who will remain in the basement. USC's defense is stellar. Pretty sure it's clear who remains in the dark, cold basement.

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    Such are the perils of PAC play. Week after week of quality competition. Utes will bounce back.

    And as a matter of clarification and/or correction lifelong ute, the only regional programs in the Utah and intermountain market area are those at public institutions.

  • ricwhite Layton, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    Disappointing loss, but despite it, I still believe Utah will get 6 wins and go bowling this year. 6 wins with their tough schedule is an improvement over last year. Here is how I analyze their remaining games:

    At USC - On paper pretty even. USC might have a slight edge playing on their home field, but it's a toss up.

    Arizona State - Arizona St. is a better team. But Utah has the home field advantage. I say toss up.

    At Oregon - Toughest game of the year, by far. Loss

    At Washington St. - On paper pretty even. Washington St might have a slight edge playing on their home field, but it's a toss up.

    Colorado - PAC-12 basement team. This "should be" a win for Utah.

    So, I think Utah will beat Colorado and at least one of the "loss up" games and finish 6-6. Winning two of the "toss-up" games would be overachieving and probably the best case scenario for a 7-5 record. Losing all of the "toss up" games and ending 5-7 would be underachieving and a tragic disappointment. So, if I were betting money, I'd put it on the 6-6 record.

  • DraperUteFan Draper, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    Didn't love the play calling late when we got the ball back. To try a field goal instead of go for it was a "play not to lose" approach. You have to go for it in that situation with barely 4 minutes left. Even if they didn't convert, they were no worse off than the missed field goal.

    Utes have given up a touchdown on the opening drive of every PAC 12 opponent this year. The defense played very well early in the 2nd half, but they don't show up to start games.

    The offense had success running bubble screens last week and they only ran 3-4 of them this game. They should be doing max protect on that left side as they have gotten burned all season, yet they left Poutasi alone much of the night with no backside help. The offense has no identify at all.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    At least the Game was on the PAC 12 network so most of america didn't have to watch it!!!

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    Those of you expressing dismay at the lack of effort by Utah compared to last week should realize this is a typical Whittingham coaching performance: Play like world-beaters one week, then lose to bottom-feeders the next. This has been a hallmark of his entire coaching career.

    When the Utes were in the MWC Whitt could get away with it because the game after a TCU or Air Force or a BCS opponent would be with a cushy-soft Wyoming or Colorado State or UNLV. The Utes could stumble around in the first half of those games but still recover in time to win, and could gather 7 or 8 wins each season without too much trouble.

    In the PAC-12 he doesn't have that luxury, and it shows. Whitt has to finally figure out how to prepare for every game, instead of saving all of his preparation for BYU and the nationally-ranked teams and assuming they can just show up and win the rest.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    CB,
    The thing the utes will begin the hunt for is the bottom of the conference, again. WSU thanks u for joining the conference so they no longer bring up the rear.
    Wasn't this the year the utes were going to win the south? I wrote it down so it must be true.
    The PAC is sliding every week and will soon be a mediocre conference so nothing to brag about.
    Arizona is an average team in an average conference and they took it to the utsies.

  • tlaulu Taylorsville, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    Chris B.

    Could you please look into your "Chris-tal Ball" and see what the prediction is down the road.I need to mark something down.

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 9:50 a.m.

    Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. When your only goal is beating Weber State then your ceiling is pretty low.

  • JinSoCal sandy, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 10:18 a.m.

    ricwhite-
    way to go out on a ledge with your predictions. Toss-up, toss-up, loss, toss-up, should win. Hopefully we get points for toss-up's like soccer.

  • gitRdone Millard, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    We are awesome.
    MARK IT DOWN!
    We will for sure win the rest of our games and win the pac 12 south.
    MARK IT DOWN!
    We win go to the rose bowl and beat Ohio St.
    MARK IT DOWN!
    Then we will beat the broncos in the super bowl.
    MARK IT DOWN!
    Right Chris?

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 10:30 a.m.

    chrisb - stanford was a fluke. don't let your ego get too big

  • pac12ute4life Beverly Hills, CA
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    The Utes are clearly better than the Wildcats. Just a fluke game. Still going to the Rose Bowl this year! Onward and Upward!

    The Cougars can enjoy their success as a regional team, while Utah is a national brand and an academic powerhouse.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    Chris B. I love your optimism and clever posts, don't ever change.
    BYU fan.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    @gdog

    Give it up my friend, excuses are like....well you know what they are like, everybody has one, or in this case it seems like you have a lot of them. utah "fans" were posting all week that ariz is a "bad team", a "bad defense", a "sure win", etc. The only thing that seems sure to me is that utah will have another losing record in the pac12. Now you can take offense to that, call me a troll, whatever, but it doesn't change the truth of it. utah is what we said it is.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    @ Chris B:

    Yet another mark-it-down miss that your selective memory will soon forget. It's truly humorous to see you having to resort to living years in the past when only half way thru this season. Sometimes reality really bites. And even more-so when your nemesis is excelling at the same time your own team is floundering.
    It's no wonder whatsoever that Ute fans don't want a rematch with BYU. I wouldn't either if I was a Ute fan.

    @ Ricardo:

    And only a few plays away from a Weber State only season.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    @Snack PAC
    Despite the whiny denials, the Utes are well on their way to their third straight losing PAC 12 season.

    The one "improvement" for this season versus their two previous seasons, the Utes didn't start the season 0-4 in conference.

    ---------------

    Nope. Utah has been comparative in every game this year, win or lose. In all 4 PAc-12 games it came down to the wire. Yes we are 1-4 but I for one see improvement, IMO we are on the correct path.

    Utah finished MWC: 33-6 ... in PAC 12: 8-5, 5-7, 4-3
    TCU finished MWC: 36-3 ... in the Big 12: 7-6, 3-4
    BYU finished MWC: 28-11 ... 10-3, 8-5, 5-2

    Please tell us why you think all of a sudden BYU is better?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    @Tators

    It's no wonder whatsoever that Ute fans don't want a rematch with BYU. I wouldn't either if I was a Ute fan.

    -----------

    Stop begging for a rematch. A "legacy" program with a national brand and ESPN exposure has to beg for a rematch?

    Utah played its worst game of the season. The front seven on defense were atrocious (300 yards rushing allowed while averaging 137 per game), Mr Clutch missed 2 FGs when he was 100% in the first half of the season, offense was abysmal.

    Yet on the road in the PAC-12 we were still able to compete. This could have easily should have been a blow out like Washington (7-6) 17 @Arizona 52 last season.

    I'm disappointing in the loss, but we need to move on to USC. Lets hope Wilson comes back, otherwise we could be in for a long game.

  • Jake2010 bountiful, ut
    Oct. 20, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    It is Stanford Cardinal. They are not like Louisville, St. Louis or the NFL's Arizona. Cardinal! Come on now! lol Does even one Forbes 2013 list agree with 'Utah is an academic 'powerhouse'? I saw where ... I ain't gonna argue with the insolent. A regional team beat Texas rather soundly with the most explosive rushing performance ever faced by them. They then not too many weeks later went ahead and beat ranked Oklahoma. Houston was previously undefeated and only ... Why am I here? I ain't arguing with you grannies! Bottom line is that U are not the worshipable institution your red colored glasses would have you like to think you are. Bottom line is that regardless of conference affiliation or elitist alignment good teams simply win! They don't hide behind 'level of competition' excuses. Mississippi finally beat LSU... Auburn found a way to beat Manziel... UCF beat #8 Louisville. Good teams simply win! They don't need phrases or conference affiliation to justify losses. It is better to be independent than cellar dwelling in a conference!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    "Please tell us why you think all of a sudden BYU is better?"

    Current Coaches/AP/Sagarin
    #35/#37/#28 BYU(5-2) #24 SOS
    ur/#33/#35 Utah(4-3) #5 SOS

    BYU is trending up, with four straight wins. Taysom Hill is now #25 in passing yards per game and has climbed to #92 in passing efficiency, with ratings of 155.7, 158.5, and 161.9 in his last three games.

    Utah is trending down, with three losses in their last five games. Travis Wilson is now #34 in passing yards per games and has finished well below Taysom in passing efficiency rating with 9 interceptions and ratings of 92.7, 139.0, and 39.6 in his last three games.

  • JustTheTruthMan bountiful, ut
    Oct. 20, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    I wanna destroy the 1-4 is better than the first two seasons 0-4... But, we can not and will not look at the winning side of the equation because for save very few all those victories came against the teams you knock most... The NDSU's... The Montana State... The Utah State... The BYU... The Weber State... If it wasn't for your out of conference schedule, each of the past three years would be losing seasons! I am talking 2011-2013... And... It is not yet promised that Utah will win even one more game.. I can think of two that are almost assured losses... And... Well... CU 2011 is a reminder as to why there are no clear guaranteed wins!

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Uteology

    Who's "begging" for a rematch?

    The truth is IF the Utes manage to qualify for a bowl, they won't have any say whatsoever in which bowl they go to - the Utes will go exactly where they're sent, a gladly so, even if it's to the New Mexico Bowl versus Wyoming.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    I wish we could just play byu every week.

  • Mr. Plate Lindon, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 3:32 p.m.

    I always thought Ron McBride had some very good teams, but every year there were just enough silly mistakes, poor clock management, and various mental lapses that seemed to cost them 2-3 games per year. I always thought that with discipline those could be very good, top quality teams. Then Urban Meyer showed up and proved me right.

    Coach Whit seemed to harness that discipline in 2008, but now the Utes seem to be in the same state of silly mistakes and mental lapses that cost them 2-3 games per year. They seem to prepare and play with discipline only when they play BYU, and this year they also put it together for Stanford.

    I think the Utes are a very dangerous team when they prepare for a disciplined contest. As a BYU fan, I would love to see a BYU-Utah matchup in the bowl game. I believe my Cougars have improved, and would show the Utes' last victory was a fluke. Problem is, I've thought that for three seasons in a row and have been disappointed every year. Why can't the Utes get ready for all their games like they're playing BYU?

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 3:32 p.m.

    An entire season of alternately playing byu and Weber State would be perfect.

  • TheBleak West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 4:10 p.m.

    I only read a few comments before getting sick of hearing BYU fans, such as "snack pac" talk a bunch of trash on Utah.

    What is the point? Utah lost, they struggled in key areas, such as Phillips missing two field goals and Wilson throwing to picks and then getting taken out due to injury, and just not playing good enough to win.

    We lost to a good team, unfortunate, but that is life for a newer school in a tough conference.

    I just wonder why BYU fans keep ragging on Utah fans for commenting on their team's articles when their own fans do it on Utah articles.

    When will you all let the ANNOYING trash talk end? It is clearly not part of the rivalry, seeing as how that game ended a few weeks ago.

    I also think it is funny snack pac thinks USC is a guaranteed loss for Utah, I am pretty sure he said or would have said the exact same thing about Stanford. Oregon is a close as a guarantee as you can get, but everyone else is winnable, just really tough to beat

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    @Truth Machine

    And you think TCU and Utah, the teams that OWN you, wouldn't be trending upward against these teams?

    Sagarin #115 Middle Tennessee 37-10 W
    #40 @Utah State (with an injured Keeton) 31-14 W
    #33 Georgia Tech 38-20 W
    #50 Houston 47-26 W

    As I said, Utah went 33-6 and TCU 36-3 when playing that type of schedule. Both teams can handle your schedule, that's a proven fact. Both teams have struggled with tougher schedules:

    AP #28 Oregon State 48-51 OT L
    #12 UCLA 34-27 L
    #8 Stanford 27-21 W
    Sagarin #34 @Arizona 35-24 L

    #7 LSU 37-27 L
    #10 Texas Tech 20-10 L
    #17 Oklahoma 20-17 L
    #19 Oklahoma State 24-10 L

    "Who's "begging" for a rematch? "

    Hmm, Cougar Nation, just read the posts. Yes, if we make a bowl we will gladly play any opponent, even BYU. But why would Ute Nation want a rematch with a team that we clearly OWN? Maybe Texas might want a rematch with BYU?

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    I never said Utah would beat Arizona. I didn't even predict anything about Utah winning at all. I thought Arizona presented match up issues and posted that mid week.

    I was commenting on factors in the loss. It's true Phillips missed two FGs and Wilson's hand was an issue. Arizona won but that doesn't stop me (like you as well) from venting on losses.

    Arizona is not the better team because of things like Vegas odds (even though they get it right so often). I give Arizona the edge because they won. No excuses. But what about when Utah beats BYU and blue fans keep telling us they were the better team. It cuts both ways. As for the fans you are addressing. I don't have a problem with what you said, it's applicable to many Ute fans, but not me. Maybe you should follow that with BYU loses. Stop with the Sagarin ratings and wins versus opponents that aren't relative for inductive comparisons.

    BYU is better than Virginia but they lost. I think they are better than Houston but a blowing leaf in the wind could have changed the outcome.

  • wyoming cougar Green River, WY
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    Re:
    Lifelong Ute
    Salt Lake City, UT
    We lost. Let's not pay attention to regional programs fans whose seasons were over after week 1. We showed to the world we can play with anyone in the nation last week. We can also lose any week(given the competition we face). But I can't think of anyone who wishes we were beating up MWC programs still. This program is headed in the right direction. We'll welcome any fans looking to join a program that actually has a future.

    Who exactly is the regional program here? One that just played their first game outside of the state of Utah, and made the long trip to, wait for it..., Arizona? On a station that very few in the country have to even see the game? Or the one that has road games in every time zone against teams like Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Houston, and Virginia and home contests with Texas, Georgia Tech, Boise State, etc., all on national television? It seems pretty clear to me who is the regional program vs. the national one!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Oct. 20, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    Hey Chris B, I "marked it down".

    What happened?

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:09 p.m.

    Uteology

    Your whiny excuse making conveniently ignore the fact that Sagarin already includes SOS in his ratings, and he still rates BYU #28 and Utah #35.

    It's laughable that you're constantly bringing up TCU as your standard for mediocrity in a power conference. Sorry, but Utah doesn't even compare to TCU, yet BYU has been much more competitive against TCU, than U.

    The last time BYU faced TCU, the final was 28-38 at TCU.
    The last time Utah faced TCU, the final was 7-47 at Utah.

    btw, NOBODY is "begging" for a rematch with Utah, but, unlike Utah, BYU isn't scared of a rematch with the Utes.

  • Cute Ute Houston, TX
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:53 p.m.

    I'm so depressed. Maybe it's time for some chocolate.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 20, 2013 8:58 p.m.

    @ TheSportsAuthority

    Nobody on Utah's team has ever lost to BYU. What exactly are they afraid of?

  • Stay the Course Salt Lake City, utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    well no doubt about it the Utes are playing a big boy schedule. Cowboy up and put on your big boy pants or there will be no more wins for the year

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:01 p.m.

    @TheSportsAuthority

    Your whiny excuse making conveniently ignore the fact that Sagarin already includes SOS in his ratings, and he still rates BYU #28 and Utah #35.

    ---------------

    So you're saying that Sagarin rankings prove that BYU could compete in the PAC 12 or Big 12? Good one!

    News Flash:

    The last time you played TCU, Andy Dalton was in the NFL and you played at a neutral site in 2011. We never played that team. ]

    The team that beat us 7-47 was ranked #2 in the nation, that same team handled BYU 31-3.

    When was the last time you beat TCU? Oh wait, you're 0-4 against them as well.

    Let's try your logic:

    The last time BYU faced Sanford, the final was 37-10 (Stanford was 4-7).

    I don't want to make you cry so I won't bring up what happened the last time we played Stanford.

    ..................................

    Bottom Line:

    Utah played its worst game of the season and lost to Arizona.

    Go UTES!

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Oct. 20, 2013 11:03 p.m.

    2fer

    More than a dozen players on Utah's 2013 roster LOST to BYU in 2009, including Trevor Reilly, Latu Heimuli, and Sean Fitzgerald.

    The Utes know they were lucky to win 2 of the last 3 and they know that the Utes might not be so lucky in a rematch.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    bhahaha, Stanford was a fluke we all knew it. chris B you doing okay, what predictions you got for us this week hmmm?

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    Detractors from tds possibly didn't even watch the game. Easy to toss criticisms around on a weekend when the ball bounced your way (as in, right off the chest of a Houston receiver for a would-be touchdown that would have won the game for the Texas team), and away from the Utes, who lost more than just the game. Interesting, still, that the rants are coming from 0-4 royal smurf blue "fans."

    On to USC. Hopefully either TW's hand heals quickly, or Schulz puts it on himself not to be the next Jon Hays...

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 21, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    @ Samurai
    Did you watch the BYU game?
    IT was a two point conversion he dropped (would have created overtime).
    I hope Travis Wilson's hand recovers quickly.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    Utah has got to start winning these games - Arizona, Arizona State , Oregon State, Cal. The Stanford win would have been even better had the U beat Arizona but the Arizona loss sort of puts a wet blanket on things again.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    @Lifelong Ute
    "We showed to the world we can play with anyone in the nation last week."

    Problem was, the world didn't notice. They reported it as Stanford was obviously overrated. And then you followed that up with a lackluster effort and let Carey march all over your defense for 200+ yds for the 2nd year in a row.

    There was no energy from the Utah Defense or Offense. It's probably too much to expect Utah to get up emotionally for a 3rd week in a row. Whittingham needs to figure out a better trick for getting his teams to play hard. Relying on emotion is a bit fickle and hard to maintain. This was a game that Utah should have won and an opponent that was tailor made for them. Are we looking at another letdown game next week vs USC?

    Kyle's record in conference games during the "letdown" month following the BYU Bowl now stands at 1-9 and his record in the month after that is a robust 7-3. Good thing for Kyle they quit on the rivalry. The emotional cost was too heavy.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    @gdog

    Fair enough but the way you talked abut the missed FG's comes off as an excuse. He missed them because he isn't as good as he was being made out to be. Frankly no one is that good, no one makes every FG every time so if anything him missing a couple of them should have been expected, it was going to happen at some point.

    I only saw the second half of the game as I went out to eat with my wife but from what I saw arizona was the superior team in every way, and the half I saw was apparently utah's better half. utah benefitted from an unforced turnover on the muffed punt and only had to "drive" the ball about 15 yards for one td, they scored the other on a trick play, it was a good play but trick plays usually indicate an inability to get things done through the normal offense.

    Personally I saw nothing to indicate utah was really competitive in that game, arizona appeared to drive the ball on the gorund at will and also complete passes when they really needed to complete them.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    Apparently you weren't paying attention to the scoreboard: 2nd half - Utah 17 UA 15

    Unforced turnovers, missed field goals, missed tackles, penalties, injuries... ALL show up on the scoreboard.

    The last time our starting QB got injured in a PAC-12 game we took a beating. This time we were still able to compete. That's an opinion backed by the scoreboard.

    "Utah failed to follow up its big win last week with a win on the road. Perhaps the most shocking of all ... Andy Phillips missed! Twice! Gasp! Strange things were certainly afoot in Week 8...Give Utah credit. With starting quarterback Travis Wilson sidelined for the second half, the Utes battled back behind Adam Schulz and took the lead in the third quarter. But Carey and his 236 yards on the ground proved to be too much."
    -- ESPN

    But you are right, Arizona was better and Utah played its worst game of the season. Utah won't win anymore PAC-12 games if we play like we did that game.

    The good thing is we have another chance to fix the problems at USC!

    Go UTES!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 21, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    @BigCougar

    Kyle's record in conference games during the "letdown" month following the BYU Bowl now stands at 1-9 and his record in the month after that is a robust 7-3. Good thing for Kyle they quit on the rivalry. The emotional cost was too heavy.

    ------------

    Winning BYU's Super Bowl has nothing to do with it.

    The fact is that Utah plays the weaker PAC-12 teams (aka bottom feeders) at the end of the season: 6-8 UCLA, 3-9 Washington State, 1-11 Colorado, etc.

    Nice try, but BYU is irrelevant in how we perform in the PAC-12.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    @besmart:

    Yes, I watched the game, and you are correct, he dropped the two-point conversion pass. But my point was that if the catch was made, Houston wins by a point, not overtime.

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 21, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    Chris B

    Mark it down BYU 5 and 2 one game away from bowl elgibility with 5 to go
    Utah 4 and 3 and looking for two more wins and after that last performance not even C U is a cinch. Don't save any vacation for a December road trip.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 22, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    @uteology

    "Apparently you weren't paying attention to the scoreboard: 2nd half - Utah 17 UA 15"

    Uh.....apparently I was. Here is what I said.

    "utah benefitted from an unforced turnover on the muffed punt and only had to "drive" the ball about 15 yards for one td, they scored the other on a trick play, it was a good play but trick plays usually indicate an inability to get things done through the normal offense."

    utah did nothing offensively in the second half outside of that trick play, go ahead and check the stats. And trick plays are usually desperation plays, like in this instance, they weren't doing anything offensively and had to resort to a trick play to get some points, once again it was a good play, but it showed what they had to do to score as they never did score on anything resembling a real drive.

    I understand the desire to find some positives but the truth is utah played poorly in every phase of this game, offense, defense, and special teams. The fact they were playing another poor team made it close, but it doesn't change what it is.

    Sorry to give you the truth.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    Oct. 22, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    @Uteology
    How come you're forgetting the Final score? that's the only score that counts right? Who cares if the Utes made it a game? They still lost right?

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 22, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    @samurai Jack
    If he catches the two point then BYU kicks the extra point to tie the game.
    BYU went for two and didnt get it.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Oct. 23, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    It looks as if Utah is on a win against really good teams, and lose against the struggling ones season. Therefore the SC game could be a problem. However, the UTES have not lost two in a row, so that should be a positive.