W. Bush doubled the national debt. Reagan tripled the national
debt. You cannot say either about Obama, into his 2nd term. The government shutdown to stop the Affordable care act, which passed the
House, and Senate twice. Along with the Supreme court... cost $24
million dollars. Sorry, if I am against national debt?
I would vote Democrat.
Every time a senior spends money on a bag of oranges a farmer, a trucker, a
laborer and countless others are fed. What happens every time the government
shuts down or Wall St creates another gimmick? Money is taken from the economy
and average citizens are not quite able to make it paycheck to paycheck.
Gary I agree with you but don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
Mountanman - The conditions Gary enumerated would be in place even if Ronney won
the election. And remember, Romney was the original designer of what exists as
Obamacare today. Just sayin'.
The great tragedy of the conservative movement was the election of George W.
Bush. President Obama has been spending the last 5 years cutting the
Bush/Cheney deficit in half and getting us out of the ill advised wars. The current Republican Party has lurched so far to the right that they
are delusionally attacking a health care plan divised by the ultra conservative
Hertitage Foundation. The only hope is for more moderate
Republicans, in the mold of Jon Huntsman and Bob Bennett, to gain a foothold in
So let me get this straight.You voted for GW Bush -- TWICE.Sticking your head in the sand is not reality.BTW - Captain Bush
gave to order full steam ahead, and hit the ice berg, Captain Obama took
command after he abandoned ship with the last of the bow about to go under.Nice save, is all I can say...
Let's be absolutely clear: Senator Max Baucus did NOT say that Obamacare is
a train wreck. He said it might become a train wreck if HHS didn't improve
their efforts to provide small business with accurate information about it.
Only one of many facts this writer should have checked before writing.
I'm just not hearing the supposed songs of praise. It' more like a
sigh of relief, and a collective asking of questions like 'what do we do
now' and 'how can we fix this?'
@PaganThe only error in your summary is that the shutdown cost the
US $24 Billion, not $24 Million.
"While the country speedily heads directly for the wall, politicians play
around. But they are patting each other on the back and kissing up to each other
and applauding each other, and the pundits and the bloggers and TV anchors all
sing their praises"I am not sure what news sources you use, but
I haven't seen any of this. What I have moslty seen is that this was a
huge disaster for everyone involved. The US currency as a world standard has
never had more challengers because of the brinkmanship of threaten default. We
will all be paying higher interest rates for all credit based activities. We
will end up having paying 800,000.... to not work for three weeks. We settled
nothing, other than tarnishing what positive image our government had. No one
trusts it anymore. It is all about personal agendas versus actually getting
something done.Even Republican leadership spent all morning saying
what a bad strategy the Cruz/Lee stunt was. Many things Lee and Cruz want may
be correct principles..... but there methods and tactics were immature and
disastrous for everyone.
I am not sure what is meant by "unfunded liabilities". If it is
Medicare or Social Security this article is an extreme over exaggeration at best
and a lie at worst. The trust funds are viable for some time to come. The
changes will come about in due time and are not extreme by any means. You may
have a point to some degree if you are talking about VA benefits, military and
other government retirement programs. Typically these are funded with the normal
appropriations bill that goes through Congress each year.
Ronnie and others have stated well why this letter isn't even close to
being truthful. Last point, Bacus did not say Obamacare was a train wreck. He
said a couple of years ago that if the planning for implementation wasn't
done right the implementation would be a train wreck. Vastly different from the
what the letter writer claims. Just a point of reference for those
paying attention. When you listen to Fox you get lies. When you listen to MSNBC
you get liberal analysis and liberal opinions.
@ ECR, Thanks for your comment but as you will remember, Romney said, if
elected, he would repeal Obamacare. As it is, if a person living in
Massachusetts didn't like the state's healthcare system, they could
move to another state. Obamacare is a nationwide trap!
Can a $100 fee for not signing up for health insurance be awful enough to make
someone want to leave the country? If so, I wish them well. Let's hope such
"immortal" folks find a country with no taxes at all. And no natural
disasters. And no crime.
' I am not sure what is meant by "unfunded liabilities" 'Ronnie, the people that use this term on these threads also don't
understand what it means. They just say it because they hear Sean Hannitt say
it. And, frankly, he doesn't understand it either. Basically it
is a nonsense way to try to criticize this president. Lets put it
like this: If you are planning on buying groceries in the future, and paying
your future utility bills, and helping your kids with college in the future, you
have an unfunded liability if you dont have all of that money you plan to pay in
cash, in savings, already. . Is that going to destroy your household finances?
Probably not, if you keep working and pay your bills. Now I understand that
comparing a national economy that is integrated into a world economy, with
personal finances is way oversimplifying and will never give you a realistic
look at the issues. But that is what people are saying when they say
The Trillion dollar Iraq fiasco was unfunded and ran up the debt. Although the
contractors made huge profits on the debt passed to the grandchildren.
Yeah, you're right one vote. I think that the war would be called an
unfunded mandate. And even more so, some genius' decided making huge tax
cuts right while racking up that huge debt was a good idea. Hey Republicans, who
do you think that was?
Mark B; where do you get your $100 dollar amount. if you look closely, it
says, to the best of my recolection, $100 or X% of your income up to y amount,
whichever is greater. sounds scary to me.