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Utes football: Utah 'knocking at the door' when it comes to getting a signature Pac-12 win

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  • Cletus from Coalville Coalville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 6:55 a.m.

    We already got a signature win when we won weber and that means we get to a bowl game now for sure. But no worry because we will win the rose bowl anyway.

  • Todd_i Midway, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    Good luck to the Utes. They are a quality program that has the ability to beat even a top ranked #5 if they put their mind to it. The U has always been good as an 'upset' team and they need to channel some of that energy. I assume the jump to a big conference has messed with the psyche and they need to regain that underdog edge until they can join the perennial top tier.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 7:49 a.m.

    They may be knocking but the door is shut, locked tight and the conference has moved on. Their only wins will be against Colorado if they are lucky.

  • Utah rules Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 7:50 a.m.

    I don't see any signature wins this year unfortunately. The Utes may make it to a bowl game in 2014 but not this year.

  • ChristoperB Salt Lake, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    Remember when everyone said we'd lose by 20 to UCLA? If Wilson only threw 2 picks we win that game by 14. Heck, even if he only throws 5 picks we still win. I'm even more confident about this team after the UCLA game than I was before, even with the tough loss. That big win is coming, and there will be no looking back once it does. It is only solidify us as a serious Pac 12 contender and head and shoulders above the regional programs here in Utah that aren't in power conferences.

    Utah 32
    Stanford 27

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    I wonder if Utah fans would argue that it is good news for BYU (or bad news for Utah) that they are "knocking at the door" when it comes to getting a win over Utah.

    If BYU "almost winning" isn't seen as good news for BYU, then I don't see why "almost winning" should be seen as good news for the Utes.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:11 a.m.

    Down under/But seriously/Utah rules, again, glad to see you've fully recovered from that apparently near-fatal illness that struck some time late September 21st.

  • Brad J West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    @ Chris B

    Utah is not a power house and never will be. They can't contend with the Big Boys, the only reason they are in the pac 11+u is because it will give other teams a little break as they play their schedules.

  • Ironman SANTA CLARA, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    At 7-13 in the PAC 10.2, Utah needs any kind of win.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:49 a.m.

    @Hawkeye,

    The difference between Utah almost winning against the great teams of the Pac 12 and you almost beating Utah, is we have acknowledge since our Pac 12 invite it would take a few years for us to catch up, mostly in recruiting, to the Pac 12 teams to the point we were equal with them. We've made big gains(again our recruiting has improved quite a bit from our average mwc recruits). There are reasons we have struggled, and those reasons are being addressed. It's not like we play byu-quality opponents 12 times a year. WE play true national powers.

    Are you acknowledging you are a step(or two) below Utah?

    You don't seriously think almost beating UCLA is the exact same as you almost beating us do you?

    What this means is that whatever level we're at, you're one step below. So yes, mock us for being a step below UCLA, Oregon State. Guess what? You're TWO steps below them and one step below us.

    LOL

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    @ Chris B
    seriously? Utah is the Vanderbilt of the Pac-12. Vandy upsets people as well.

  • RedUtes08 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    Logically speaking, I really do think that we have a chance to win this game! Our rush defense is one of the best in the conference. Our Defense can stop their rush attack. Our defense has an Identity. I think if all cylinders of our team are clicking. We can make it a great game!!

    GO Utes!!!

    Good Luck Utah St. and BYU as well!!

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    Hi Chris B,

    So, as an individual who predicts that the Utes will win every game and instructs people to "mark it down," are you admitting that you expected all along that the Utes would lose most of their games?

  • Alterego Harrisville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    Welcome to the party Ute fans. Please feel free to meet at the back door with the rest of us.

    Best Regards,

    Kansas Fan
    Vanderbilt Fan
    Duke Fan
    Iowa State Fan
    Washington State Fan

  • Alterego Harrisville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:28 a.m.

    Chris, in your next meeting with the Utah coaching staff, make sure you remind them that the Utes are two steps below Eastern Washington one step below Oregon State and UCLA and one step above BYU and Weber State.

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    @Alterego
    I think then that must be pretty embarrassing for BYU to be 3 levels below EWU, I think that puts them right between Stevens Henager and Wasatch Academy of the Arts. Congrats!

  • ???? Murray, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Keep it close boys. Coach whitt loves a good moral victory. 3-9, but undefeated in the state. Do you think Gary will leave Wisconsin so soon?

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    there are many "b"'s making comment... how about utah getting a win in the pac12 let alone a "signature" win.

    see how the pac12 helps you in the rankings when local teams finish ahead of u.

    I hear pac12 decals out sell u decals in slc.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:00 a.m.

    Hawkeye,

    I'm admitting that our athletes 4 years ago were not nearly as talented as most of your Pac 12 schools. I also point out that all recruiting services show a big improvement in recruiting these days for the utes compared to our MWC days. I think that is the biggest reason for our Pac 12 struggles. However, the gap between Utah and the other Pac 12 schools has decreased significantly. I also think its one of the biggest reasons we beat byu year after year after year. We have better athletes. No, I didn't see it was the only reason. It doesn't guarantee success, but it certainly helps to have better athletes than your opponent.

    P.S. Did you know that every year since our Pac 12 invite more kids have picked Utah when they had both Utah and byu offers?

    Ouch! That hurt? I guess even the best Mormon kids like the idea of Pac 12 Utah over WAC/indy byu. If that doesn't scare you about byu's "future", it should. Those kids used to be byu locks, but are more and more picking Utah these days.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    Chris B
    "I'm admitting that our athletes 4 years ago were not nearly as talented as most of your Pac 12 schools."

    And yet you still predicted them to win every game and instructed people to "mark it down." Why would you do that if you knew that they were clearly outclassed?

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    @Hawkeye

    Why do you all consider that Chris B is wrong to be confident, sometimes over confident about his team? That's what a fan does. They cheer for their team.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    @Hawekey,

    And yet you still predicted them to win every game and instructed people to "mark it down." Why would you do that if you knew that they were clearly outclassed?

    The same reason most byu fans predicted a byu win over Utah, even though Utah(per all recruiting websites) say Utah has better players than byu. Was that really that hard?

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:33 a.m.

    How does that song go?

    "I hear you knocking, but you can't come in..."

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    Chris B,

    And still, even the Vegas betting lines had BYU as a favorite over Utah. Why would that be?

    I understand being a fan and cheering on your team. I also understand predicting wins within reasonable constraints. What confuses me are those individuals who blindly predict wins for their team every week regardless of the opponent. That's the point where fandom turns into homerism.

    Overconfidence in a team's ability week-in and week-out is not a good look for anyone.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    Hawkeye, I'm not sure what your point is. My point is this, make fun of Utah struggling in the second best conference all you want:

    Best Pac 12 teams > Utah > byu.

    However "bad" we are, you're worse!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    I personally see Utah getting a win, as I don't really think the PAC sees them as a threat. Will they ever be a consistent winner? If we look at history, how many WAC and MWC football titles did Utah win?

    Whether playing in the WAC with WAC talent, or in the PAC with PAC talent, Utah will always be looking for signature wins. However, Utah will probably never be the team Chrissy believes them to already be.

  • utahsdixie st. george, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    Utah keeps knocking and yet no one will answer. Utah has an average program... I love how some Utes fans have revisionist history in claiming that Utah was a powerhouse in the Mountain West. They had a few excellent years in the MW, however the rest were mediocre, at best.

    Not sure why U. fans think that they will be a powerhouse in the PAC-12. Wyoming comes to mind... average team, beat a few great teams, but were always "knocking on the door". I'm thinking Utah is the new Wyoming of the PAC.

    Hey Chris B... should I be marking down anything this week. Texas beating BYU, Utah State beating BYU, Utah beating Oregon State, Utah beating UCLA...do I need to mark down Utah beating Stanford? Even a dead clock shows the right time once in a while.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    I'm not sure why everybody is bagging on Chris for being a fan. Every week I watch the Utes play expecting them to win. Otherwise, why would I go? What fun is it to go to a game and expect your team to lose? For the BYU "fans" who come onto these boards spouting off on how horrible the Utes are against PAC 12 teams, always remember, you CAN'T beat us. We've proven it for four years straight. Those who depend on other teams to do what yours can't are not really fans, just haters.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    If Utah fans were like Cougar fans, they'd call for a quarterback change after the loss to OSU. They'd call for a new offensive coordinator after a loss to UCLA. If they lost to Stanford, they'd start a "Hire Andy Reid" petition.

    Such an interesting contrast in fan bases. Utah fans see progress even in losses, and that sort of optimism completely grinds at Cougar fans. Maybe wearing a Quest For Perfection t-shirt skews your view of sports.

  • bigv56 Cottonwood, CA
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Knocking on the door?how about not even in the yard yet.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    SoonerUte
    Salt Lake City, UT

    Such an interesting contrast in fan bases. Utah fans see progress even in losses, and that sort of optimism completely grinds at Cougar fans.
    ===
    It's OK to have high expectations. Other fans are fine with losing.

    Neither is right or wrong. I don't think it has to do with t-shirts, but history and tradition.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Utah beat USC this year, only due to the likely dismal SC season, it won't be as big of a win as if they beat Stanford. Good luck on that one.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    Maybe a win against Cal and Colorado will be good "moral victories".

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    What's interesting are the "fans" that see victory in defeat.

    The byu "fans" set the bar for the Utes and keep raising it. I like that.

    What they expect from the Utes is different than what they expect from the cougars. I like that too. Go Utes.

  • Funny/witty screen name Orem, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    The difference is that BYU fans expect to win every game and when that happens its a dissapointment. Utah fans think they can win and when they dont, they are use to it so it doesn't bother them.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    LOL, this is really amusing. Silver lining to losing conference games is that they're knocking on the door. Stop knocking and start winning. And not just an upset here or there but winning consistently.

    @ChrisB seems to forget that the U was SUPPOSED to have taken the PacSouth title their first year in the conference, it's only been downhill since then. The loss to Oregon State sums that up.

    The U will be VERY lucky to get a bowl bid this year. Sorry U, but that's the case.

    Let's start making Oregon final score predictions...

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:17 p.m.

    At what point does the U get frustrated with all the knocking and no consistent contending and fire KWhitt? He's been great for the program but as times/circumstances change sometimes you have to change CEOs too, it could be time for that to happen. How many more years can the U keep him onboard and keep losing a majority of conference games?

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    I will be brutally honest - it will be MUCH more difficult for Utah to beat Stanford than UCLA - and Utah lost to UCLA. If I remember correctly, UCLA had 9 freshmen on defense and a few injuries to their offense that hurt them in the game. Stanford is therefore more stable, and experienced.

    Stanford is incredibly disciplined and tough in the trenches. Yes, Utah is tough also in the trenches, but lately Utah's offensive line seems very average to me, while Stanford's defensive front 7 is incredible. I will hope for a Utah win, but I won't be surprised if Stanford comes away with a win by 10, 14 or more points.

    Prove me wrong Utah!!!

  • RojoRules SOUTH SALT LAKE, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    @SoonerUte

    True dat about many BYU fans. Always calling for Bronco's head, coaching and QB changes, etc... They don't check reality and realize that it takes time to build a good team. Taysom could be the real deal but they already called for his head after the Utah loss. Now he is back in their good graces, but just wait Taysom, if you have a less than stellar game there will be rumblings again.

    Then the Coug fans come on here bashing the Utes less than adequate PAC 12 record while they are sitting in an 0-4 situation against the Utes. They just can't shut their mouths.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    Not so funny, witty, etc. "The difference is that BYU fans expect to win every game and when that happens its a dissapointment (sic)." Huh??

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    The comments on this board and all sports boards for that matter are so juvenile one wonders why anyone would waste their time here. The comments add little if any value to the discussion. I ask the Deseret News openly, what is the purpose for having these comment boards?

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Congrats Y fans,

    you have officially hijacked our boards. That's one domain you will probably never be knocked off your perch on the top. You come here spouting non-sense that obviously stems from the fact that the Y simply cannot beat Utah on the field.

    Ute fans cant even come here to talk football anymore because "fans" of that other team just come here and spout logical fallacies.

    Go Utes!

  • SEC Rules Seminole, FL
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    Good luck Utes. I think you have a chance, but it's a bit of a long shot. You have the talent and the means to pull it off. It's just a matter of getting all the "cylinders to fire in sync.", as they say.

    It would be a GREAT win for you. It would catapult you high in the respect department in the PAC12, and across the entire FBS. It would be BIG news.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    @Dutchman:

    Look at the advertisements on the screen...

    The more hits, the more money.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 9, 2013 2:19 p.m.

    "Utah coach Kyle Whittingham said the Utes are "knocking at the door" when it comes to securing a signature win. They opened Pac-12 play with a 51-48 overtime loss to Oregon State and then dropped a 34-27 decision to 12th-ranked UCLA last Thursday."

    So Utah's close losses this year are "knocking at the door", while BYU's close losses to Top 25 teams last year were completely dismissed by Utah fans?

    btw,

    BYU got their "signature win" against the PAC conference FORTY years ago when BYU beat #17/#13 UCLA on October 1, 1983 in Pasadena. (UCLA beat Illinois 45-9 in the Rose Bowl that season.)

  • Thefullnancy SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 2:58 p.m.

    Newsflash.........this just in. To all of you BYU and Utah posters (posers). BYU does not have to be bad for Utah to be good and vice versa. Most Ute fans don't care about BYU and most BYU fans don't care about Utah. Also, your personal identity and worth is not tied to your team. You are not a better person because Utah is in the PAC12 or because BYU is a religious school. You are a fan. Like your team and have fun but don't be haters, trust me not very attractive.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    It seems apparent from Chris B's comments that going to a bowl game---any bowl game---is worse than sitting home for the holidays, just because you're in the mighty PAC 12. Interesting logic to be sure. And one that likely will be played out yet again this year.

    The only door being answered for the Utes as they keep knocking on it, is the BASEMENT door in the conference. LOL!!!

    Will Utah finally reach ten conference victories against PAC 12 opponents this year? If not, it will take them 4 seasons. As of last year they had won 7; so far this year they have won "7." Now that's impressive........why don't I just 'Mark It Down?' (Maybe they can actually beat Colorado this year in SLC since they didn't do that the first try.) Which three teams will they manage to defeat? Oregon State was one---oops, too late to count that as a "W" and now that a few PAC 12 teams are ranked it isn't looking so good for the Utes. We'll see. (Chris B had them going to the Rose Bowl after beating UCLA....too funny.)

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 3:29 p.m.

    First it was the Rose Bowl, now it's just getting a signature win.

    Whittingham is feeling the heat to do something he can't accomplish.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Yes they are!

    That the Utes will continue to have this opportunity essentially every week of the season in the Conference of Champions irritates team down south fans, almost as much as going 0-4!

  • Hamath Omaha, NE
    Oct. 9, 2013 3:32 p.m.

    Utes, played a great game against UCLA. But... Stanford is perhaps better. IF they beat Stanford the UCLA game will look like a warmup. If they get blown out, look forward to playing USC. They are are big name... and beatable.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Oct. 9, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    Thefullnancy

    "Most Ute fans don't care about BYU and most BYU fans don't care about Utah."

    Don't be so naive. You do realize, don't you, that "fan" is short for "fanatic," and that fans are their most fanatical when it comes to discussing their most bitter rivals?

  • WJCoug South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 9, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    This is hilarious. After all the chatter over the past four years or more about going to the Rose Bowl, Southern Division champs, "we belong, you don't", etc. etc. etc. Utes are still looking for a "signature" win!

    As I said previously, this is exactly what 75% of all football fans in the state predicted would happen when the Utes joined the PAC11+u! The other myopic 25% are still trying to figure out what hit them!

    Enjoy your life with the "big boys". You are not exactly getting what you expected, but you are definitely getting what you deserve!

    Go Stanford!

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    Utes will get a signature PAC-12 win at some point. I would be shocked if they beat Stanford this weekend because Stanford is likely the best team ever to come and play against Utah at home, but not at all surprised if they took down Arizona, Arizona State or USC this year. None of those three teams are going to be likely ranked when the Utes meet, but all three likely will be bowl eligible and are top fifty teams currently. They also represent the middle of the conference along with Washington State and Oregon State.

    Perhaps a signature win is one against the top third of the league (Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington). That won't happen this year due to depth and injury issues. But, eventually Utah will beat one of the top four teams in the league.

    Utah should always beat the dregs of the conference which are Cal and Colorado.

  • Darth Vader Ogden, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 7:14 p.m.

    I think the cougars are one notch below Eastern Washington. They lost to Oregon State at home last year.

    However, they did make up for that loss after beating Washington St, Weber St, Hawaii, Utah St, Idaho, and New Mexico St. Those wins make them one again, you guessed it, the best team in the state.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 9, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    Utah hasn't dominated BYU. The games could have gone either way.

    At the end of the year, the mighty ones go bowling. That's where you find the champs.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    Darth Vader

    "I think the Cougars are one notch below Eastern Washington."

    Only a delusional Utah fan would think that:

    The Jeff Sagarin Ratings have BYU ranked 29th, Utah 34th and Utah State 38th.

    USA Today has BYU ranked 37th, Utah 49th and Utah State 58th.

    CBS Sports has Utah ranked 51st, BYU 52nd and Utah State 60th.

    Consensus?

    BYU > Utah > Utah St

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 9, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    Ute need to stop knocking on the door a kick it in. No time like the present, GO UTES!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 9, 2013 11:42 p.m.

    @SportsFan:

    CBS will have BYU ahead of Utah next week.

  • 4 in a row! Ogden, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 6:28 a.m.

    No question about it, the winning team is the best in the state.

    4 years in a row proves that

    UTAH > BYU

    scoreboard > someones statistical make believe

    To quote one of our former great sports writers, “there are three types of liars in life: 1) a general lier 2) a gosh darn lier 3) then there are statistics”

    Sincerely, Certified Statistician

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 6:45 a.m.

    "... you have officially hijacked our boards."

    Funny. There's several of us Cougar homers not even commenting on this thread.

    But now that several of us are 'officially' dubbed as 'hijackers' let me get my two cents in...

    The signature PAC 10.2 win occurred last year when the Utes defeated Colorado.

    That is all.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    We've already won our bowl game why stress over the rest of the season?

    Go Utes!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 10, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    As New Mexico is to the MWC,

    so is Utah to the PAC 12.

    The evidence is there.

  • 2BCSWINS West of I15, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    @WJCOUGIE..."Enjoy your life with the "big boys". You are not exactly getting what you expected, but you are definitely getting what you deserve!"

    Enjoy life without being able to beat your rival you're definitley getting what you deserve on the field where it matters 4 straight, 9 of 12 overall domination...LOL

    All cougie fan's here's whats really funny....All of you come back to life a few weeks after yet again getting dominated by big brother on Sep 21st. We move on to playing some of the best teams in the country have a close loss to the 12th ranked team in country. Yet for some reason you think your better becasue you beat middle tenn co-ed state and utah state without chuckie...LOL!

    Pitt 14 Virginia 3
    Ball State 48 Virginia 27
    Virginia 19 Cougies 16.....LOL!!

    4 in row, 9 of 12...Cougies still questing for the perfection Utah did twice...LOL

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Funny that a "byU" fan would admit that their "signature" win was 40 years ago. Lol

    The Utes are getting better and I think an upset is not out of the cards.

    Go Utes!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Utah matches up well with Stanford. Stanford doesn't spread you out and utilize speed and athleticism to beat U (Utah will see this in ASU & Oregon...bad matchup for the utes). Stanford lines it up and plays power football, which plays right into Utah's defensive strength. Stanford is a 50/50 team as far as run/pass, but they like to run the ball first. I think Utah has a chance in this game. UCLA game being close shouldn't be a surprise to anyone...Utah only lost by 7 at UCLA last year...again it's about matchups. Good thing Utah doesn't play Washington this year because they do not matchup well with them, or ASU...I'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't matchup well with Oregon either. 3 more wins utes...just 3 more. If U can't do that in your 3rd yr of conference membership it may be time for Utah fans to realize that it's probably never going to happen (being consistently competitive and respectable in the PAC12).

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    @tanman

    "Why do you all consider that Chris B is wrong to be confident, sometimes over confident about his team? That's what a fan does. They cheer for their team."

    It is the ridiculous hypocrisy of utah "fans" on this subject that is the issue here. Each and every year utah "fans", and christina in particular is right at the top of the list of utah "fans" that do this, mock BYU fans for having hope and confidence in our team. utah "fans" claim, falsely" that BYU fan think BYU will win the national championship every single year, win a heisman every year, etc. Then utah "fans" like christina hypocritically turn around and predict utah will win every single game they play despite the fact they have a massive losing record in the pac and are playing a team that stnaford that will probably wipe the floor with them.

    It is the hypocrisy, and it is rampant, that is the issue. Stop being hypocrites and you'll probably stop getting criticized and having it pointed out what deluded hypocrites many utah "fans" are. Simple as that.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Keep reminding Stanford that the U beat Weber St. 70-0 even without an on-side kick. That'll scare them.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    utahcountyute

    "Funny that a "BYU" fan would admit that their "signature" win was 40 years ago."

    Nope, the BYU fan simply stated that BYU accomplished 40 years ago what the Utes have yet to accomplish.

    Actually, BYU has dozens of accomplishments, that the Utes have yet to accomplish, most importantly, the true signature accomplishments of major college football team and individual achievement:

    A National Championship and a Heisman Trophy

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 10, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    Nothing better than sports to take the mind of our economic mess.

    After all, does it really matter who the best in Utah is?

    As Hillary would say, "what difference does this make?".

  • Chris B. 4 Prez! Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    Keep knockin, Utes! You're literally right there. Keep up the thrilling play, cut down on the turnovers, and you'll have some signature PAC-12 victories in no time!

    Go Utes!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 10, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    Cougs dawns

    I applaud your honesty and in sight. The sad news is that you are the only BYU fan who does this. The rest of BYU fans use Utah articles to blast there rival. How sad and it really doesn't say much for the fan base.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 10, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    What just continues to astound me is the byU "fans" that come on here and bash Utah's record in the PAC 12, but forget that they lost to a HORRIBLE Virginia team in the first game of the season! That first game locked byU in to the mac and cheese nobody bowl in the first week of the season! How sad. Then they lose their "Super Bowl" and their paper state championship. What's a cougar fan to do?

    Oh well, at least you have one game at home in November .... oh ya, it's Idaho State .... never mind!

    Go Utes!

    Onward and Upward!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 10, 2013 5:56 p.m.

    Wow - Duckhunter is back from his Tulsa hiatus!

    Welcome back, sir. Thank you for your continued support of all things Utah.

    We look forward to a few more of your entertaining predictions. We always have a good time with those.

    "Where is Fangupo?"

    Thank you trollers for making all Utah stories so popular!

    Go Utes!!

    Onward and Upward!!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Oct. 11, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    @Vegas Ute

    Virgnia? So what?

    Oregon State beat U and lost to Eastern Washington.

    BYU and Oregon State will be bowling...and U???

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Oct. 11, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    Bluto

    Nice job of playing connect the dots, what a reach. Why not just cut to the chase and post the Utah vs BYU score?

    Can't do that, because it's defining and absolute. No spin or connect the dots required.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 11, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs
    3 more wins utes...just 3 more. If U can't do that in your 3rd yr of conference membership it may be time for Utah fans to realize that it's probably never going to happen (being consistently competitive and respectable in the PAC12).

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    Never? It maybe time for BYU fans to come up with something new talk about.

    Washington went 8-28 over 3 years (2007-2009) and now they are ranked in the top 20. They did that with BCS players, with over 40+ years of PAC 8/10 recruiting.

    Utah with 3 years of PAC-12 recruiting is 16-14.

    As for this season, Utah WAS competitive in both our PAC-12 games. IMO Utah is headed in the right direction. Since I'm a Ute season ticket holder, and assuming BYU fans posting here are not, I would think my opinion holds more weight.

    My prediction for the signature win tomorrow:

    We win the TO margin... Stanford has a last second field goal blocked... The MUSS rush the filed 30 seconds after the block...

    Utah 30 Stanford 28

    Go UTES!

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Oct. 11, 2013 10:31 p.m.

    Yeah BYU fans know all about a "signature win." What other school school would go and sign a lame bowl contract before the season begins? LOL !