Does anyone really care?
RE: sammyg"Does anyone really care?"I do. Heaps
is a BYU alumn and a recruit that I was very excited about several years ago.
Today I checked to see how Ansah did for Detroit as well.
@sammygYou must. You cared enough to read and comment.
I really hoped that things would work out better for Heaps, but this game seems
a lot like his experience at BYU (2 QB system, who makes that work well?),
I'm sorry for that. Hopefully things will get better for him.
I hoped Heaps would do well at Kansas but was afraid he wouldn't. There is
still time but so far it's looking like BYU part 2 for him. I'm
definitely glad we're going with Taysom now instead. Taysom may not have
the passing skill that Heaps has but he has everything else including
athleticism, passion, maturity, leadership, discipline and humility.
Taysom's passing skills will continue to improve and he will be the best
BYU QB we've seen in a very long time over the next few years.
FYI--- I didn't read the article but it's hard to ignore headlines.
Jake made a bad decision by going to play for Weis, go anywhere except for
there! I don't see why they would pull a QB in the middle of a drive? I
understand switching drives but if you have momentum why try and distort that by
throwing off timing and momentum?
John Beck and Max Hall were very good BYU QBs. It hasn't been that
long.As for Heaps, how long until the Bronco haters start
criticizing Weiss for "mistreating Heaps and stifling his
development?"Yeah, not holding my breath waiting for that one.
I felt bad for Heaps. He didn't survive Doman's 2 QB system, quit and
gone and wait for another year before he plays again. Now, 5 games into the new
team, and found himself in the same old crap. Should have red-shirt last year
at BYU and fight for the starting job. Very unfortunate man.
I wish Jake the best of luck this season and next year. He is a great talent
who, unfortunately, both with his current and former team, does not have the
talent necessary around him to win big games. Good luck this year Jake.Fellow BCS member, University of Utah utes
Please tell me all about "Doman's 2 QB system." After Heaps was
given the reins at BYU, he had every opportunity, week after week, to develop.
After Heaps won the starting spot, Riley Nelson didn't see the light of day
until Heaps had failed so miserably that Mendenhall's job was probably on
the line to keep him in.
First off, Heaps isn't a BYU alum, please don't categorize him as
such. Secondly, I still hope for the best for him, but I'm also very glad
he's no longer here. His 4 touchdown to 5 interception stat line was very
reminiscent. I watched a few minutes of an earlier game, and it's clear
that he doesn't lead his team, he's nonchalant in his demeanor,
refused to go for the tackle after one of his interceptions, and usually has
that whiny look at his face that we all got so familiar with. Maybe he can
still develop into an NFL caliber qb, but I think the first half of his season
shows that he really wasn't mismanaged at BYU. He might have a cannon for
an arm, but there are a lot of other intangibles that go into being successful.
Come on Dave, "alumn" doesn't only include graduates of the school
but includes former students as well. I think Jake did his best at the Y and
was simply as not as good a fit as everyone had initially hoped. I still wish
him well. Incidentally, I'm an IU alumn and probably know you.
How's it going?
@ Christopher.B:Following your same line of reasoning... apparently
Travis Wilson, a great talent who unfortunately does not have the talent
necessary around him to win big games... since half way through the season they
are still PAC-12 winless again this year.As you mentioned... Kansas
and the Utes do have things in common. Both are BCS conference affiliated. And
both actively compete for the cellar status of their respective conferences each
year. Continued good luck to both.
@DSBBronco was never a suppoter of Jake Heaps from the get go!If you
remember, his freshman year, he was starting to flourish under Robert Anae, and
then Robert Anae left the program due not getting along with then assistan coach
Lance Reynolds. Doman was just a very young and inexperienced quarterbacks
coach, who was promoted to offensive coordinator following Anae's
departure. Doman did not have the reigns given to him by Bronco, therefor Bronco
dictated evry aspect of the offense as well as the defense. Doman was all about
Heaps, and Bronco was all about Nelson. Because of the difeerences of opinions
within the coaching staff, the palyers became divided as well. There were
several starters on the offensive side of the ball that didn't want to play
with Heaps. The locker room was divide and Bronco did nothing to put an end to
it. The offense suffered and so did Jakes career at BYU. I blame Bronco for
ruining Jake Heaps and his confidence. We all see where Riley took us! Nowhere!
So no DSB, Jake Heaps did not have a fair chance at BYU!
Multiple rotations during each series not an ideal system. Wow, poor Heaps.
Good luck kid. Is he a junior or senior?
Tators,Wilson as of yet doesn't have the talent to beat many of
the Pac 12 teams.But the talents that he does have is certainly good
enough to beat byU.We don't play byu 12 times a year.If we did, we'd be BCS Bowling year after year.Good Pac 12
talent > Utah talent > byU talentJust remember, however
"bad" we are, you're worse!Scoreboard!
@ Sportfanatic2011Game 1 vs. Ole Miss - Riley Nelson ran one
play, gained 6 rushing yards.Game 2 vs. Texas - Nelson ran one play,
gained 4 rushing yards.Game 3 vs. Utah - Nelson mopped up the last 5
minutes after Utah built a 47-10 lead.Game 4 vs. Utah State - Nelson takes
over as BYU QB with 5 minutes left in 3rd quarter, leads Cougars to victory.After nearly 3 3/4 games of offensive ineptitude, Mendenhall finally
gives up on Heaps and finds that Nelson performs enough better to win some
games, and has about a thousand times more heart and guts than Heaps. He's
not Johnny Manzeil by any stretch, but it's an improvement.In
all of 2010, Nelson was relegated to the typical backup QB role - a few run
plays, and mop up time. Apparently Bronco's alleged man-crush on Nelson
didn't translate into favorable playing time for his pet. Heaps was given
EVERY opportunity to succeed, and any division on the team had nothing to do
with Bronco and everything to do with Heaps.I think it's more
accurate that some fans had, and continue to have, a deluded man-crush on Heaps.
Chris B,Hate to burst your red tinted bubble but neither team is so much
better then the other that they would go undefeated only playing each other and
even if they did neither team would go BCS bowling or to the playoffs!!! Just
like having beaten us for the fourth year in a row will send you BCS bowling
this year!!!Go Cougs!!!Go Stanford!!!
So, Sportsfanatic, just wondering about the divisions in the Kansas lockerroom
now, and how Coach Weiss must obviously be favoring the other quarterback, and
how the offensive coordinator must obviously be doing a lousy job. After all,
Heaps inability to rise to the top has to be the fault of everyone around him,
right?Funny, I don't recall a single negative word about Heaps
from Mendenhall, ever. Although we are aware that several offensive players
lost trust in Heaps, just like you said, is anyone aware of any offensive
players who were fiercely defending Heaps? Loss of trust was clearly
Mendenhall's fault, I suppose. As an avid BYU follower, I read
a lot of articles about BYU football. When Heaps was starting, Mendenhall was
"all about Heaps," and it was only after Heaps lost his starting spot
through his own poor passing, terror of the defense, and lack of heart, that
Bronco became "all about Nelson" in support of his starter. Still, not a
single negative word about Heaps. All the Heaps groupies need to face reality.
Heap leaving was never Mendendall's fault, Heap is the one that picked up
and left because he was upset about his being benched. I supported Heaps and
figured he would learn and realize why he was bench and try harder to earn the
starting position again. For a while when Nealson was injuried it looked like
Heaps had learned his lesson and was going to move forward and was plahing
better. His last game as a BYU QB was rather good for the most part. Then he
acted against anything that was team like transfered and was rather bitter about
it. After that I have not missed Heaps at all and with how things are going for
him now I have no pitty for him. He needs to growup and man up for the game of
football. With Hill I have been impressed with how he has grown and we are
better off for it as a football fan base.
Have you ever seen Heaps try to make a tackle after throwing an interception?
No? I haven't either. The young man might have a cannon for an arm but
clearly dislikes contact of any kind. He hurries his throws when under pressure.
That doesn't make for a very successful quarterbacking. He obviously
didn't turn out to be as good as the hype either in Provo or at Kansas. I
wish him the best but I am very glad he is playing for Kansas and not for BYU.
Still, I wonder if BYU has a better team surrounding their quarterback. I wonder
if BYU's offensive line would be considered better than KU's? If
BYU's receiver's would be considered better than KU's? and if
BYU's running game would be considered better than KU's? I think the
answer is probably yes on all 3 counts, meaning that Jake is probably doing
pretty ok given what he is surrounded with.
It's a tough world out there. In football the final score is the metric of
success. Personal interest stories sometimes make for good reading, but they
don't appear in the W-L column. Heaps has talent, that's a given, but
the W-L at Kansas is the final arbiter. Charlie Weis as the coach is a step down
from the BYU coaching staff.
If Heaps has been moved from starting QB to a rotating QB system, it's
apparent that Weis doesn't think Heaps is "the guy". The 2 QB
system is almost always a bad deal, but Weis' version of the 2 QB system is
the worst I've ever seen. I'm guessing Heaps was wishing he'd
stuck around in Provo right now.