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Brad Rock: Keeton's injury prevents a thriller that might have been

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  • technonerd7 orem, ut
    Oct. 4, 2013 11:17 p.m.

    Chuckie, from this BYU fan to you, get better soon. You are fun and exciting to watch, and here is hoping you get back out there sooner, rather than later.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 4, 2013 11:25 p.m.

    Good one Rock. So funny. Keeton wouldn't have changed nearly enough in this lopsided game

  • Stang08 Southern, UT
    Oct. 4, 2013 11:33 p.m.

    It's an awesome feeling to always be right. I believe that I am now 3-0 with my predictions this season. What do you think about that?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Oct. 4, 2013 11:34 p.m.

    I am so sad for Chuckie and for Ag Nation. No one likes to win that way, and no one likes to lose that way.

    Rise up, big Blue! Boise can't beat you if they can't score any points!

  • Samwise Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 12:22 a.m.

    I am a BYU and I felt just as bad when Keeton got injured as I do when BYU players get injured. Of course I want no one to get injured, and feel bad when any player gets injured, but Keeton's injury hit me harder than most for some reason. Maybe its because he is the best QB in the state this year, or maybe its because he seems like a good guy on top of being a great QB. I do cheer for USU when they are not playing BYU so that may be part of it too. I hope he will be ok, and that he can pick up where he left off when he gets back, whether that is later this season or at the beginning of next season. I think he has a good chance of playing in the NFL when his college career at USU is over. I hope USU can still beet Boise State without Keeton. I think they still could win the rest of their games with or without Keeton, but it will be a lot tougher without him. Good luck for the rest of the season, Aggies.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Oct. 5, 2013 6:36 a.m.

    I am a cougar fan, but come on Brad, it is not lights out for USU. USU still has a good defense, a very good O-line and Harrison was not that bad considering the situation.

    USU can still compete and still has a good shot at winning the MWC. Like any team that loses its starting QB, USU will adjust and move on.

  • Smart Aleck Vancouver, WA
    Oct. 5, 2013 8:57 a.m.

    Having Keeton in for the whole game would have been more exciting, but the score wouldn't have been any different. The BYU defense had things locked down pretty tight with or without him.

    I hope Keeton recovers quickly and is back soon. I'll be a big Aggie fan the rest of the way!

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    This Coug hated to see Chuckie go down. He's a fine QB and a blast to watch. The win was not sweet without him. All that said, our guys did well and KVN is awesome!

    Go Gougs!!

    Go Aggies!!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Oct. 5, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    Keeton wasn't doing that well when he was in the game. Sure, he could have stepped up big time and done what he usually does. But there is not guarantee he would have been much better. Harrison did pretty well filling in until the Aggies fell so far behind they had to go to the pass. Before that, the Aggies were winning the field position battle, for the most part. So Harrison was able to move the ball.

    Keeton's injury was big. But I honestly did not see the defense letting down after he left the game. In fact, they may have stepped up. But after half time, the Cougars found ways to cope with the pressure on Hill and were able to move the ball and score, despite having worse field position most of the time. I don't think Keeton would have changed that.

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    Oct. 5, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    This column reads just like the articles the day after BYU All-American Gifford Nielsen blew at knee at Oregon State in 1977 (I photographed the game). Marc Wilson had to take the field, and BYU lost. Funny thing happened, the next weekend at Colorado State Marc Wilson showed up and threw 7 TDs and ran for 1 TD (I was there too).

    Here's to Chuckie's replacement and team all finding their stride in glorious form for the remainder of the year. When one door closes, another opens. Here's to USU making their season one for the ages.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 5, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    Never want to see a player go down with an injury, especially a huge playmaker...even from the other team. Get better soon Keeton.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    @sports are great

    "Keeton wouldn't have changed (the game) nearly enough."

    Huh? Have you not been watching college football this year? This guy is one if the most dominant players in the country. With Keeton, Utah State puts a beat-down on your Cougars.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    @Sports Are Great

    "Keeton wouldn't have changed (the game) nearly enough."

    As a Cougar fan, I disagree. BYU might still have won, but the fact is Keeton gives the Aggie offense a ton more strength and confidence. The game would have been much, much closer.

    @GoRed

    You said "Huh? Have you not been watching college football this year? This guy is one if the most dominant players in the country. With Keeton, Utah State puts a beat-down on your Cougars."

    I disagree with you as well, for two reasons.

    #1 - Even before he got hurt, Keeton was only 4 of 10 for passing including a pick six to Kyle Van Noy to start the game.

    #2 - The Aggie defense was supposed to dominate Taysom Hill and the BYU offense. Instead, Hill had his best passing efficiency numbers of the whole season and the Cougars scored 31 points, even without a scoring a single point in the 4th quarter.

    I am glad to see BYU win, but it wasn't as enjoyable because I would have preferred to see Keeton play the whole game.

    I truly hope Keeton can recover from his injury because he's an amazing QB.

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Re: GoRed

    "With Keeton, Utah State puts a beat-down on your Cougars."

    Sounds like more sour grapes and whining from a utah fan. Too bad you didn't have something to cheer about from your precious team in Salt Lake this weekend. The dream world of utah fans is crashing down around them.

    Honestly, BYU played a more complete game on both offense and defense. The better team won again this year. I don't understand why utah fans try so hard to be a bad reflection of the university they revere so passionately.

  • Uteyank Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Football with all the injuries and concussions is becoming depressing to follow and watch. USU lost one player and went from possibly winning 9 or 10 games this year to be lucky if they win 5; and they have already won 3. They have no backup that can take over like Kennedy did before. It's sad

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Oct. 5, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    @ GoRed - WEST VALLEY CITY, UT "@sports are great - "Keeton wouldn't have changed (the game) nearly enough." Huh? Have you not been watching college football this year? This guy is one if the most dominant players in the country. With Keeton, Utah State puts a beat-down on your Cougars."

    A "beatdown"?

    Tell me, why is it that when BYU lost Jamal Willimas in the BYU-Utah game, you guys said you "dominated" BYU, but when USU loses Keeton, it's "USU would have delivered a beatdown"?

    Why is that?

  • Truth Seeker Wellsville, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    Chuckie get well soon. Nobody knows what would have happened if Chuckie was able to play the whole game. I think it would have been a lot closer game. Hard road ahead without Chuckie.
    I hope all the teams in Utah have a great year. When any team wins it's good for the state.

  • BYUSU Wellsville, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Get well soon Chuckie the team needs you. It will be very hard without your skills and leadership. Different game with you in there.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    CryRed,

    Kind of like the beatdown chuckie put on BYU last year huh? Go Cougars, Go Bruins.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    NevadaCoug
    Overton, NV

    Keeton wasn't doing that well when he was in the game. Sure, he could have stepped up big time and done what he usually does. But there is not guarantee he would have been much better.

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    True there is not guarantee but there is a strong probability Keeton's numbers would have improved. The best defense he's played so far is at USC and his QB rating in that game was 109 because he struggled running the ball (minus 1.3 per rush). Against BYU is was averaging 5.7 yards per rush.

    Hill was also struggling at that point of the game, and Hill was able to have a career game after Keeton went down.

    Before the injury Utah State 7 BYU 10:

    Passing: Keeton 4/10 26 YDS 1 TD 1 INT (Hill 4/7 46 YDS 0 TD 0 INT)
    Rushing: Keeton 17 YDS 5.7 per carry (Hill -4 YDS and fumble)

    After the injury: Hill 13/24 232 YDS 3 TDS 1 INT

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 4:14 p.m.

    Nothing but respect for Chuckie Keeton! May you heal speedily and completely!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    Oct. 5, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    Here we go with the Ute trolls again,

    Uteology said "Hill was also struggling at that point of the game, and Hill was able to have a career game after Keeton went down." FYI, Keeton didn't play defense for USU.

    Since you are big on statistics Uteology, why don't you tell us Wilson's quarterback rating for the UCLA game and compare that with Hill's rating with no spin, "yeah buts" or "if onlies."

  • Scores Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 5, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    I think BYU wins this game with or without Chuckie. He is a great player...sad to see him go down. The USU defense is what Taysom Hill was going against. He had a good game. As for Brad...he must be living under a rock!

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 5, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    to Aggie fans, I hope Keeton heals well, I was sorry to see him get hurt. Hope the rest of your season fares well. You have a good defense and they'll have to step up and help pick up some of the slack. They're very physical and very capable.

    @Uteology
    Keeton has had great games versus Utah the past 2 yrs. He torched Utah's D this year for 300+ yds and nearly 100 yds rushing and completed 75% of his passes. In 2012 he had over 300 yds total offense and led them to a win over the Utes. He's pretty much had his way with you guys.

    Conversely he has struggled vs BYU's defense 3 yrs in a row, he has averaged 165 yds passing, 23 yds rushing on 10 carries (2.3 ypc) and a PER of 109. This year was no different from the beginning of the game (pick 6 by Van Noy) to the point when he got hurt and left the game (4-10 passing for 26 yds). His injury didn't have any effect on Hill's performance. Hill had a good game passing vs Utah St last year and again this year.

  • Downtownchrisbrown ,
    Oct. 6, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Wondering if BYU's future opponents are changing their game plans with their pass-first dual-threat QBs. First Ash is out for an undetermined time due to a concussion, and now Keeton out for the season. Will Georgia Tech's QB be able to hold up to the punishment he'll get from the LBs running the option? I imagine they'll hit him every chance they get, even if he pitches the ball.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Oct. 7, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    Uteology

    East Salt Lake City, Utah

    After the injury: Hill 13/24 232 YDS 3 TDS 1 INT
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    Keeton would have shut down Hill on defense.