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BYU football: Cougars looking for more offensive consistency, production against Middle Tennessee

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  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 7:18 p.m.

    Dead last in the nation in pass efficiency? Bronco, what have you done to our team?

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 7:23 p.m.

    It seems in BYU's mad pursuit of a "balanced" offense and in trying to change and/or improve the offense several times several things happened:

    They messed up the great offensive schemes and play book (they can't even make short red some pass, not for even 2 yards, for a TD)
    They messed up the offensive line
    They messed up the QB
    and the the TEs became non-existent,

    BYU offense forgot who they are and what made them great.

    Now every season they are trying some new fangled offensive novelty as BYU's past great offense becomes a more distant memory.

    Why not just get back what made them great in the first place?

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    Sept. 26, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    How much more consistency do they want? They're really consistent. I would look for improvement.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 7:35 p.m.

    From the article: "Anae reiterated that Hill isn't the only one to blame for the offensive woes, explaining that any good offense begins with a good O-line." If so, why do we not read more about these guys? I want their names, just as important as Taysom Hill's...lets have more info about the O-Line, make 'em famous, give them credit for their hard work.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    Great idea

    LOL

  • youtefan Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 26, 2013 10:03 p.m.

    BYU lost! Can we just give all this BYU talk a rest? Enough! Let's all move on!!!!

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 12:00 a.m.

    Whoops!
    "short red some pass"
    should read: "short red zone pass"

  • football_fan Murray, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 5:29 a.m.

    Passing game is easily fixed if you put Ammon Olsen in. Why haven't you gone to him when Hill is sooooo off? How long will you let 35% passing go?

  • Scott Farcus Beaver, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    "Robert Anae wants more consistency.

    And more touchdowns.

    And more success on third down.

    And a victory would be nice, too."

    Sounds like an execution issue to me.

    Give up the "Nitro, Go Fast, Go Hard, No huddle, Wang Dang, Banana Rama Ding Dong Offense.
    Its not the Quantity its the Quality.

  • The Solution Las Cruces, NM
    Sept. 27, 2013 7:02 a.m.

    I'm tired of hearing every year that our offense is "trying to find their identity."

    Taysome Hill: "We’re still in the process of finding out who we really are offensively."

    You don't know who you are? I'll tell you, you are BYU! You are offense. Your job is to put points on the board. That's it. Now go to work.

    I hate how they always talk about offensive identity. All that does is broadcast what you plan to do. If they say, our identity is a running offense, then defenses use that to plan against them. Instead, they should just open the book and utilize anything at their disposal to score.

    For now do what all of us have been screaming, short pass completions: screens, meshes, comeback routes--the high percentage, short yardage plays. When they get their confidence, the playmakers will emerge and good things will happen.

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    The supporters of BYU expect BYU to try to win, but also, they expect BYU to represent the values of the LDS Church.

    Do we realize how we affect the game and the image of BYU? I’ve realized that the behavior of BYU fans greatly affects how well the team plays and how positive the image of BYU is. WE PLAY A VERY REAL POSITION ON THE TEAM, just as if we were on the field, dropping to a three-point stance before each play! We play the position of “fan”.

    What does a fan do to win, and to help BYU present the right image? A fan yells and cheers until half dead, and moans when a play goes wrong. Some fans write in blogs, explaining things to “non-fans” and building team spirit. We’re pretty good at these things.

    Most of all, a fan stands behind the team and the coaches, win OR lose. Even when they try hard and lose, we accept our part, encourage learning from it, and move on. We shouldn’t, as we too often do, get angry, blame other players, point out their mistakes and demand they be benched! …… (Continued)

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    (Continued).... We shouldn’t blame coaches and others for not preparing us. We should back them as they’ve backed us.

    Players talk seriously about fans, and how much they influence the THE GAME! Home field advantage is very real, because the extra player on the team, the fan, makes blocks, knocks down passes, gives receivers more speed, helps run patterns, gives the quarterback extra seconds, and lifts field goals over the bar! When we play away from home, that position is weakened by distance, but still vital to winning the game, if our team-mates feel we’ve “got their backs”. We have to play our position “to the max” when we get the chance, so our team-mates don’t have to cover for us, perhaps leaving their own position uncovered, when we can’t make it to the game.

    Imagine what would happen if we fans played as well as KVN and the rest of the team. If we have a season with exceptional players and some luck (you always need both), we fans would truly have a real influence on winning a National Championship, because of the image of BYU we fans would help create.

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Sept. 27, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    You're right Anae, it's not about Hill's inconsistency (though the rest of us know that's a big part too), but it mostly starts with the man in the mirror Mr OC. It's a lot more difficult to convert 3rd and long after two short runs up the middle. If I know what's coming from my couch at home 3 out of every 4 plays, I can guarantee the defense does too. Stack the box on 1st and 2nd, and pin your ears back and go for the qb on 3rd. That's all it really takes to beat BYU on offense right now. I'll always be a Cougar, but Mr Anae, this is your last chance for me to really care the rest of the season.

  • bigirish OREM, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Hey, let's face it, we beat Utah with a called-back TD kickoff run by Hine and a missed FG by old faithful Sorensen - but we beat ourself too and handed another one over to our rival. They didn't win it. We had better stats too. And LIke DaveKnowsWhats Up, if we can predict the plays, so will our opponents. And If we really think we're going to Go Fast, Go Hard, we should also add Go Smart! Go Hard, Go Smart! We need to show some good numbers against MTST and not barely squeak by - assuming we win. We've got receivers we're not using well and I feel for those guy who can make a difference. But I realize it takes a lot to put together a new staff with a new scheme and try to impose it on a group who played together with different coaches last year. It just didn't seem like we improved from TX to UT. And using the word "nasty" just doesn't fit our line. Let's play hard, fast, tough, smart - "nasty "connotes playing dirty. And that's not us!

  • Chiro Portland, OR
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    We all know how this is going to go. Because this is Middle Tenn state byU will end up winning 45+ to 7 and then everyone on here will then go from pouting to: "byU is the best in the state" again. We will hear how things are "turned" around at byU. How byU should be "4-0" etc, etc, etc.

    This happens every year when byU plays the New Mexico States of the world, when they play the Idaho and Idaho States of the world.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    What baffles me is that BYU coaches continue to make the same mistakes. Last year we rode the pony of a QB who couldn't throw the football. You would think we learned something but no, we insist on making the same mistake. I still believe Hills throwing woes can be fixed with more experience, but at what expense?

    The good news for BYU coaches is that Taysom Hill is a stud athlete. So you don't even have to yank him...play him at the position that suits his abilities and let Olsen have a shot throwing the football. Can you all imagine a backfield with Williams AND Hill? Talk about a beast backfield! Then let Olsen run the show at QB. Why do we insist on trying to put a square peg in a round hole?

  • RSLfanalways West Valley, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    Just a thought but this friday USU is on ESPN and BYU is on ESPNU, and you would think BYU would have better tv coverage than USU, but that does depend on the team you play.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Sept. 27, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    These words would be something we might expect to hear in early August. They sound like what we hear every fall at BYU. Utah got a new offensive coordinator this fall, they seem to be doing OK. It seems that no one on this staff feels that there is anything wrong with not having things resolved by the fourth game of the year. We've seen this the last two years. Save this article, print it again after game 6. Last year we "found" our best quarterback setting on the bench where he had been all year. As someone else said, things are very constituent, that's the problem.

  • Robert Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 27, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    New quarterback! New quarterback! New quarterback!

    You want to improve the offense, the answer is simple.

    No change at quarterback, no change in passing efficiency. Haven't the coaches learned that by now?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    All of the vast knowledge of armchair coaches (and literally never-ending denigrating by some Ute fans) never ceases to amaze me. You guys should not be wasting your time making these eye-opening online comments. Instead, you should be preparing and submitting your wonderful resumes that contain so much impressive experience... obviously much more than the current coaches, who obviously don't know nearly as much about their own team as you guys do.

    Then after you get your sought-after coaching jobs, it will be interesting to read the ongoing ridicule from the new level of commenters concerning your hard to criticize decisions... only after they're fully implemented of course.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Sept. 27, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    I watched the game last night, replaying certain downs. TD kickoff return, called back. Seemingly muffed punt caught for TD by Alisa called back. Proper call on replay. Utah made one very great run on pass that resulted in a TD. Mostly Utah was stuffed, especially in 2nd half.

    Very poor 3rd down conversion rate and some strange blue zone calls.

    Coulda shoulda woulda. But here's the deal: Hill just played his 5th game, 3rd under a new system. Cannon arm great legs, smart. He'll be fine. BYU's defense is still first tier. O-line is new.

    Anae is not a stupid as you guys think. Mendenhall is a great defensive mind. Stick with the program. You can't change everything every week. Give it a rest and forget the old days. They weren't as good as you remember. We just played lousy teams. Losing to Utah sucks, but your recommendations are unlikely to help.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    I agree with Tators and BlueHusky. Too much criticism. As I said on another article, stay the course...Anae said from day one that this would take time and be a work in progress. Regarding my previous post on this article I still think moving Taysom to RB and giving Olsen an opportunity at QB would be a good idea. Put guys in positions that are commensurate with their abilities. I just don't want us figuring out who should be playing where when we've reached game 10 or 11 on the schedule like last year. I certainly don't watch these guys in practice, and don't see the many reps that the coaches do, but from what I HAVE seen, it seems like a viable option to move some pieces around. All that said, we need to be patient because when BYU gets the personnel and schemes figured out, along with experience and chemistry we may be singing Anae's praises in the end. Keep the faith, be patient.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    Sept. 27, 2013 3:13 p.m.

    Well said Tators. The constant armchair quarterbacking does get old. "Start Jake Heaps, bench Jake, start Riley Nielson, start Jake, we mismanaged Jake, start Taysom, bench Taysom, fire Anae, Fire Bronco, start Ammon, Fire Cosmo, Start Jake again, we miss him. Fire Bronco again." At some point you have to realize that defenses caught up to the passing game of the 70's and 80's that BYU revolutionized. It's unlikely we'll dominate like that again. We've had many amazing seasons and great seasons since then, but dominance over the rest of college FB is over. We will continue to get great players. There will be more like Detmer, more years like 1996, 2001, 2006 etc, but they will be more interspersed. Now if my team goes 9-3 it's really not time to jump off a cliff. Great job Bronco, Anae and the rest of the cougars. You have my support. I pledge not to throw trash at refs or throw you under the bus if a game doesn't meet my expectation.

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Sept. 27, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    Re: biggish "Hey, let's face it, we beat Utah..."

    Uh, let's face it, you didn't beat anybody and the score wasn't indicative of how bad you got beat. The only improvement from Texas to Utah was in the level of competition you faced.

    However, Hill will start to look great against the likes of MTSU and all will be better. Even the Go Fast, Go Hard, Go Nowhere offense.