USU does seem to have a good team. Coming within 3 points of SC in a down year
for them is very good indeed. BYU has a lot of improving to do, but they may do
it. We will see.
I'll admit that i'm a total fair weather Aggie fan. But after what I
saw last week against USC, the Aggies defense is the real deal and deserves the
no 15 ranking. Heres to and MWC title.
I'm hoping the Aggies run the table. Tough games against BYU and Boise
State are very, very win-able this year. I will be pulling for the Aggies; a
very good team indeed!
You already lost your two biggest games.You failed to prove you are
as good as Pac 12 teams.And your quest for a BCS bowl is over.But hey, if a wac 2.0 championship gets to excited, have at it.The game against byu will be huge, to be able to say you are the second best
program in the state.The whole nation will be watching with great
interest I am sure.
USU is never going to defeat pac 12 referees!
The mentality of most Aggie Fans is probably a good reason why the program never
wins big games. They are completely satisfied with coming close. Why not win
one once in awhile? USC as a whole is bad. Yeah, USC has a good defense, but
the mental miscues by both coaches and players from USU offensively left so much
to be desired. Bad loss, same old Aggies. Utah State would have beat USC with
decent play calling and decent execution. Unfortunately those things were
lacking yet most Aggie fans are happy.
Aggie fans aren't happy with the loss. Who is happy with a loss? The point
of this article, and the attitude Aggie fans can have, is that we still have
plenty to fight for. A MWC championship is a big deal to us. We aren't a
Pac 12 school and are never going to be. Would we like to be? Sure, but not if
it meant a losing record every year. We belong in the MWC and have a chance to
win it every year against GOOD, regional competition. Not SEC competition, but
good competition. BYU has nothing to fight for this year, besides wins and a
sub-par bowl. Utah still has a lot to fight for, but it's an uphill battle
against far superior competition. Satisfaction is defined as the difference
between your expectations and results. I believe Utah State still has the
potential to obtain more satisfaction this year than any other team in the state
because we don't have unreal expectations, but good results.
What many critics here do not understand is that USU will never be able to
consistently beat teams that recruit nothing but 4 and 5 star players, have a
fan base triple or more of USU, much larger budgets. But what is clear, USU can
be an over achiever, come within a few points or even a single play, of beating
stronger opponents. We have proven, in the last few years we can beat Utah and
BYU and I believe would be equally competitive with our team in the current PAC
12 as Utah is, this year for example. We are in the perfect conference for us,
where we can expect to compete for the championship each year, which is a lot
more than can be said about U. of U in the PAC. It is going to be a long wait
for a Rose Bowl appearance, Utes.
@AggiePrideThe attitude of the aggie fan's is very very poor.
I've seen it first hand.
@Tenn12"The mentality of most Aggie Fans is probably a good
reason why the program never wins big games. They are completely satisfied with
coming close."Now you're just being silly. Most Aggie
fans? How many do you know, personally? And even for the sake of argument,
since when do fan expectations dictate how the team plays? You would have an
argument if you said that the team expects to come close, but then I'd ask
you to demonstrate that you're correct and you'd fail miserably.
;)"Why not win one once in awhile?"Indeed, why
not? All you have to do is go on the road and play teams that are arguably
better than you and win? Of *course* we want to win.You're
@MarsI think the point is you can't beat a big school.
It's just not possible for the aggies.
@ Ute Seniors... (Chris B):Actually, Utah has also failed to prove
that it's as good as most PAC12 teams... especially since they've
never once beaten one with a winning record. But hey, if being a
cellar team in a big conference gets you all excited... have at it!Personally, I'd rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond (as USU now is)
than a tiny fish in a big pond (as Utah now is). Those are the kind that
gobbled up, as Utah has been each year it's tried to compete in it's
new big pond. Though you don't yet know it, almost none of the
nation is following the average Ute game... or any similar team that can't
qualify for a bowl game. Irrelevant.
Stang0...you just post nonsense. We can and do beat big schools, you just
choose not to recognize that. Don't Utah and BYU count? Or were they
"little" when we beat them?
@Mars,Please read the following quote from your head coach in another
article from this very website:“USU has come a long way in the last
15 years,” says Wells. “Those games used to be 40-point blowouts.
Now we’re going into Auburn and the Coliseum and Madison and Utah and BYU
and playing for the win in the fourth quarter. It’s still a burning desire
to try to get it flipped and win some of those games. But to go play USC on the
road against a top-10 defense and have the game go down to the last possession,
I’ll take it.”This mentality is exactly what I'm talking
about. Winning big games is not expected nor demanded. Until it is you will
never get to another level. Your fans, coaches, and players are content to
continue coming close. As evidenced by this quote, I hope you apologize for
calling me silly. I backed up what I said with a quote from the head man.
When the USU football program was on life support we called the big road trips
body bag games. The team was playing for a big paycheck while running up stats
for the big boy teams. The Aggies were always in the bottom 12 teams in the
NCAA.So before you ignorantly slam the Aggies learn some history and
chart the progress made by USU. It has now been a long time since USU was blown
out in a football game. Teams can no longer look past the Aggies. When the
Aggies do lose the victors (maybe not ignorant fans) know that they have won a
fierce game against a worthy opponent.USU finally has a home in a
stable quality conference that where it can immediately compete for the title.
True fans appreciate the hard work and great progress made by players and
coaches. Aggie fans that I know are proud of their team and optimistic about the
rest of this season as well as the future of USU football. Go Big Blue!!!
@tinplaterbeating Utah/BYU every 100 years doesn't count. The
aggies have lost to Auburn, Texas A&M, Wisc, and most recently USC. I win
again my friend.
@Tenn12I did not call YOU silly, I said you are BEING silly.You have found one quote, ostensibly in a post game setting, where the
Coach found a positive after a tough loss, and you are using it to assert that
every single person involved in coaching and the athletic department is
comfortable with losses and expects to lose big games.Does not
compute.If you think that quote truly indicates that all during prep
week, practice, game film review, and in-game coaching that the Aggie players,
coaches and staff didn't expect to win, then you are being silly. If you
think that Matt Wells would have said "No, I don't expect to win"
prior to kick off, then you are being silly.You don't ignore
film after a win because you won. You don't ignore positives after a loss
because you lost. The USU Football program is still taking baby steps toward
success. In 2010 we won 4 games. Go to the 610 KVNU website and listen to his
coaches show prior to the USC game. He said that we're tired of coming
close. And we are. I know I am.
Stang, Per Sambone's plea, I'm going to be civil to you.
You are correct that USU hasn't beaten a highly regarded program on the
road for awhile, and the wins over BYU and Utah are few and far between.Lucky for me, this gives you absolutely no power over me. You
don't diminish the enjoyment I get from being an Aggie. I still hold
season tickets, I still go to all the home games and watch the rest on TV.
It's irksome that you continue to beat the same drum.
@Tenn12In the interest of being civil, I did not intend to insult
you. I apologize if that's how I came across.I simply disagree
utterly and completely with your assertion. I believe it has no merit, and I
find its implications to be belittling and insulting to the Aggie players,
coaches, and staff.
Stang,Which power conference teams has SUU beaten and when? (And
remember, close doesn't count.) Also, in which of the last 100 years has
SUU (or SUSC) beaten BYU, Utah, or Utah State?
@Tenn 12It is not a reasonable goal, for the foreseeable future, to get
"to the next level" if you mean a more prestigious conference. The fact
remains that USU is a mid level university in terms of enrollment, endowment,
budget, and resources. We are right where we belong, competitive with our
peers, and an occasional threat to those above us. What mid level team do you
see as better than the Aggies? I would be very interested. We have made huge
strides, and I hope we can continue. But we don't belong in, say, the PAC
12 where we would be like Utah, hoping not to be the doormat each year. And we
are not going to be a national football powerhouse football program. Better
chance of that happening in basketball, don't you think?
Deseret NewsI'm not sure how the following comment can be
considered off topic considering the other comments posted on this article.
Frankly I find it troubling that you disallow someone from extending a friendly
hand to Stang who most people question and ridicule. Please
re-review the following post.********************Stang, I for one appreciate your comments much of the time. While
sometimes extreme, I do think you represent a group of people(how big of a group
is debatable) who have ill feelings towards usu. May I invite you to come
discuss Aggie issues at the usufans website? It is a forum where Aggie fans go
to discuss all things Aggies. An outside opinion there is always appreciated.
@MarsSo you agree with me.@Aggie238We
haven't beaten a "power" team. We've beaten WAC 2.0 UNLV.
Which USU hasn't done in recent memory. That's not really the point
thouugh. Do you dispute the fact that USU hasn't beaten a big team or not?
And we haven't played Utah or BYU so I can't answer that question.
But you already knew that didn't you? @aceofspadeskbWhat's the website? I may consider it if it will finally get you aggies
to see the error of your ways. And I believe that's the first time
you've said anything nice to someone who isn't an aggie.
@StangIf I've said something bad about another fan base I ask
you to find it. Do a google search for "usufans" to find the website.
Sorry, DesNews won't let me post a link.Also, USU beat UNLV
last year 35-13.Btw, well written article DesNews! Keep it up!
Ok so they did beat UNLV. What's that say? You are no better than SUU.
On another website yes you have. And it's always about me. It's a
newspaper website based in Logan. You know what I'm talking about so you
can see for yourself if you are in denial.