Its so perfect that Utah is 39 and byu is 40.
byu fans - Can you now see why we decided to go play fresno for a
couple years?They are a better program than you.We
already are dominating the recruiting war in Utah(see head to head and average
stars won EVERY year since our Pac 12 invite), so it makes sense also go to play
in front on an important California recruiting base.2013 Seniors 4-0
SWEEP!How embarrassing that Van Noy, Hoffman, Riley Nelson, Jake
Heaps, Jamaal Williams, Taysom Hill, and so many others will NEVER know what its
like to beat their rivals!
How is a pretty bad 1-2 BYU team with no QB still #40 and only one spot behind
the Utes in this ranking? Yeah that doesn't make any sense...BYU and USU's rankings should be switched.
Why don't you guys be good sports and support the premier program in Utah
as we fight for the Pac 12 Title.The winner of the Utah/UCLA game
will win the Pac 12 south.
The fact that Bronco likes Hill a lot will doom the offense. He will let his
affection cloud his judgement and we will be stuck watching Hill struggle to
pass for the next several years.
With a 1-2 start, how's that quest coming along?LOLIs this the THIRD, FOURTH time bronco has started 1-2?LOL
Remember when I promised I wouldn't post all year if byu won?LOL!Just like last year.And the year beforeAnd the year beforeWe OWN byU.
1-2 with losses to your rival and a very bad Virginia team.And have
you seen how everyone is mocking Texas for having lost to you?LOL!
I've said 3 things since the beginning of the year:1. Utah
would beat byu and usu - CHECK2. Utah would go 8-4 or 9-3(almost a
guarantee at this point)3. The winner of the Utah/UCLA game would win the
Pac 12 SouthThe jealousy in provo and logan is palpable.
"Utah State checks in at No. 55 after losing a close game against USC in The
Coliseum. Utah made one of the biggest moves of the week jumping 13 spots to
come in at No. 39 after holding off BYU, 20-13. BYU dropped six spots to come in
at No. 40 after its lackluster performance against the Utes on Saturday."If Taysom doesn't improve his completion % to at 65%, BYU
won't be bowling this year.USU shot themselves in the foot in
losing a close one in the Coliseum.Utah played better than BYU and
deserved the win, but it remains to be seen if the Utes can beat a decent PAC 12
I agree with Chris B on one point, the winner of UCLA/utes will win the PAC 12
South. Problem is for Chris, it won't be close. UCLA wins easily. I used
to pull for Utah except when playing USU, but have since changed because of
Chris B. I bet the real Utah fan base just loves how he represents them. GO
I've said 3 things since the beginning of the year:1. utah
would beat BYU and USU - BARELY2. utah would go 8-4 or 9-3 (almost a
guarantee at this point) - NOT A CHANCE3. The winner of the utah/UCLA game
would win the Pac 12 South - UCLAThe delusion on the hill is
Despite my little sister's rose-colored glasses fantasies, our Utes
don't have a prayer of beating the Bruins.
Christy and Pac,Remember when you guys told me byu would beat
@Sportsfan,What's not left to see is if for the fourth year in
row we can beat a bad byu team.
UCLA has the inside track for the PAC 12 South, followed by ASU and Arizona, in
that order. The annual pillow fight in the rockies will determine
who finishes in the PAC 12 South basement.
ChristoperBSO since your better then us let us enjoy football and
you can talk you big man talk to Colordo. People like you make me want to cheer
against the U and I went to school there.
I'm excited, but let's keep things in perspective. Utah really needs a
win against UCLA or Stanford. Either is a tall task. The next 6 games are all
tough. One game at a time. Utah needs a win against a quality PAC 12 team in the
worst way! GO UTES>--->
The Bruins have gone into Rice-Eccles highly ranked before and come out very
disappointed. They've lost the last three there. The last time a ranked
UCLA played in RES (2007) the final score was 44-6, so you never know...
chrissyWhat's STILL left to prove is that the Utes can beat a
PAC team with a winning record...some time this decade might be
jeru0455UCLA 2007 wasn't a Top 25 team. The same
Utah team that beat UCLA 44-6, was SHUT OUT by UNLV(2-10) 0-27 the following
54-IQUtah math!Currently: Utah(39) barely better than
BYU(40) a little better than USU(55)It's a long season;
we'll see how the teams stack up at the end of the season.
@just the FaxYes UCLA was ranked. They were #11. Not only were you wrong
but your point about UNLV just goes to show that anything can happen. I would be
surprised if UCLA was a heavy favorite at Utah, less than TD.
I don't get it, moderators. Your guidelines say you want to promote an
atmosphere of respect, using the metaphor of addressing a room full of people
and then passing the microphone. You even go so far as to shoot down comments
that are "disruptive."Why oh why do you let Chris B and his
multiple sock puppets post 7-8 comments that are designed purely to get a rise
out of people?Don't worry, other Ute fans, I do not lump him in
with you. You are by and large good folk who have the common decency and
respect to be gracious with your lot in the PAC-12 and your wins over USU and
BYU.Chris, you really need to find a new hobby. Unless digging
under people's skin is what you like, then you're doing super.
~sarcastic thumbs up~
talkinsports, Nutz, et al:You obviously have jumped off the y
bandwagon and onto the [fill in the blank] bandwagon. That 4-in-a-row, 5-of-6
and 9-of-12 stuff must REALLY sting!
@Just the FAXActually, that UCLA team was ranked #11 when Utah beat
them. They beat BYU the previous week 27-17 and later lost to them in the Las
Vegas bowl 17-16. Always nice to tell all of the story.
backpacnSandy, UTHope you enjoyed the game as much as I did.
That was 9 of the last 12 and 4 in a row.Enjoy that for the next 3
Uh John, I am a diehard AGGIE. Nice try though. Nothing Chris said made a
"sting" with me. It took a great onside call by Whittingham for utah to
beat my Aggies. Let's see how the season plays out before seeing who the
best team ends up being? Right now, utah has the upper hand, but things will
change by the seasons end. GO AGGIES.........
Sorry, Nutz. Perhaps the shared arrangement with the color blue makes you think
and sound like 'em. So remember, no matter how the rest of season plays out
(Ags vs a weaker MWC and Utes vs. the Pac-12), it won't change the fact
that Utah beat your Aggies.
gonefishn, Spokane Ute, etalUCLA 2007 WAS NOT RANKED at the end of
the season, which is the ONLY ranking that counts.In fact, after
losing to Utah, the Bruins dropped completely out of the poll and finished with
a losing 6-7 record after losing to BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl.You
beat a team that finished the season with a losing record, not a Top 25 team.It's laughable how Utah fans will claim that BYU 1984 didn't
beat a single ranked team, even though BYU beat #3-ranked Pittsburgh in their
opening game of the season, yet Utah somehow beat a "ranked" UCLA team
in 2007. The inconsistency of the kids on the hill is hilarious.
"UCLA 2007 WAS NOT RANKED at the end of the season, which is the ONLY
ranking that counts . . . It's laughable how Utah fans will claim that BYU
1984 didn't beat a single ranked team, even though BYU beat #3-ranked
Pittsburgh in their opening game of the season."bacpacn:I'm afraid that you are the laughable, inconsistent one. Pitt was
unranked at the end of the 1984 season and BYU hadn't beat a team that was
ranked at season's end. So by your own standard, with "the ONLY ranking
that counts", BYU indeed backed into a championship. That let to the Bowl
Coalition/Alliance/BCS to make sure that teams with weak schedules wouldn't
play a crappy team in a bowl game and get voted in by default.
I agree with Bronco on one note. He needs to stick with Hill. But Hill will not
improve until he has time to throw the ball. The fact that he was sacked 5 times
shows that the O-Line is still not up to par in the pass game. I was amazed at
Hills speed as he tried to outrun the Utah rush. This is nothing new
for BYU. Jake Heaps got the blame two years ago and Riley Nelson got it last
year. All three of them ran for their lives in the Utah game and were vilified
by the faithful who don't seem to understand that quarterbacks need to have
time to pass. I was looking at the roster and BYU's starting
line is averaging less than 300 LBS. Where's the beef?
I thought the article misrepresented the USU game. It was a close game
throughout. Utah States defense was insanely good considering they had their
heels on their own goal line the entire second half. USC pulled off a squeaker.
USU was definitely more athletic, but USU's defense played extremely well.
BYU better get ready for Utah State because the Aggies are hungry and won't
forget last year.
@backpacnI mostly agree. Except the 'inconsistency' is
everywhere. The contradiction you pointed out is likely true to a small number
of Ute fans, but the combination of being ignorant and knowledgeable about Pitt
or anyone on BYU's 1984 schedule for them is not. UCLA was
ranked #11 when Utah thumped them, but I knew before the game that UCLA was
vulnerable and not what the polls wanted them to be. Same with Texas this year
for BYU. Beating #15 Texas was nice but that ranking was the beauty pageant part
of college football. It's not just the BCS that is corrupt. The ranking
system is also a farce. BYU has a brand name, tradition, and fan
following that gets them ranked when they sometimes shouldn't be as well.
Utah beats BYU 54-10 in 2011 and finishes 8-5 with a PAC 12 schedule. Yet at
10-3, BYU fans bragged about being ranked come seasons end. Thing is BYU squeaks
past Central Florida and USU on their home turf to go to 5-3 (nowhere near
ranked then). BYU wins their last 5 games against Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico
State, Hawaii, and Tulsa. Suddenly they're ranked.
Yes John, the utes beat the AGGIES and by the end of the season it will be their
only win against a team with a winning record. Where are the utes other wins
coming from? Seriously, where? UCLA-L, Stanford-L, the Arizonz schools...L-L,
Oregon..yeah right. Washington State? Maybe the other Cougars can get you or
maybe it's your 4th win, toss a coin. You should beat Colorado but
everyone remembers the big choke a home so it's not a gimme (maybe for
Colorado). Home for the bowl season again.......
backpacnWho said they were ranked a11 at the end of the season? You
may want to proof read, prior to positng. What's really laughable is losing
to your so called "little brother" from up North, 4 years in a row. Then
you have to go back to stats from 2007 and jump on the other PAC 12 teams band
wagon and hope they can do, what your team can't: beat Utah. Actually,
it's not laughable, but certainly sad and pathetic!
@Sports NutzWhy don't you let Utah play those games beforing
hoping for their demise. It's pretty sad when you have to hope that other
PAC 12 teams can do what your team couldn't; beat Utah. I'm a big Utah
State fan but it really is sad when you pull for your fellow in state Utes to
lose. I always thought that was a BYU thing, I guess I was wrong.
JohnInSLCThe ONLY requirement for winning a major college football
national championship is to finish #1 in the final poll.Air
Force(8-4) finished #24 in the final AP poll, though technically unranked
because the 1984 poll only ranked the Top 20, the Falcons still finished higher
in the final poll than Utah's bcs bowl opponent, Pittsburgh(8-4), which
finished #25.For all their whining about weak schedules, the Utes
only beat three winning, 7-5 teams to bust the 2004 bcs.BYU no more
backed into their 1984 championship than Utah backed into their 2004 bcs bowl.
JohnInSLCSo by your own standard of "not playing anybody",
Utah backed into their first bcs bowl -the Utes didn't beat a single decent
team during the entire regular season.Texas A&M(7-5)Arizona(3-8)Utah St(3-8)Air Force(5-6)New Mexico(7-5)No Carolina(6-6)UNLV(2-9)SDSU(4-7)Colorado St(4-7)Wyoming(7-5)BYU(5-6)Utah's toughest regular season
opponent was at home versus mediocre Texas A&M(7-5)7 teams with
losing records, 3 teams with winning records, 1 6-6 team, no team with better
than a 7-5 recordOverall 53-72Not even as good as the
first 11 opponents on BYU's 1984 schedule.btw, if BYU's
National Championship was really the catalyst for the Bowl Coalition/Alliance,
why wasn't the Bowl Coalition started until 1992, EIGHT years later.
Obviously, BYU's 1984 National Championship wasn't nearly as big a
factor as our jealous friends on the hill pretend it to be.
Utah haters need to figure out what most college football coaches already know.
You need to talk up the other teams that you play. Then if you win or loose, it
makes your team look great or ok, respectively. So if you were a BYU fan would
you rather say you lost by 7 to a 3-9 team or a top 20 team? Yeah, go think
about that for a while. Travis Wilson said after the game that BYU is the best
defense they have played against so far this year. So by the argument above it
makes his offense look good while giving BYU some compliments. So as you tear
down Utah you also tear down your own team. hmmmmmm
Speed_AltitudeSave your advice for your BYU-hating buddies who are
the kings of constantly tearing down opponents.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.. The Utes will win the
PAC12 and play in and win the National Championship game.Go UTES!
Spokane Ute, I am in no way HOPING the utes lose those games. I am just saying
they won't be favored in any of them except Colorado. I have always pulled
for Utah when they weren't playing USU, but people like Chris B make me
want the utes to lose every game just to keep him from taking over every college
football story with his comments slamming USU and byu. I like Coach Whit but I
think it will take a few more years to compete for a PAC 12 Title. JMO
I like how fans talk down others fans conference or team especially if they won
or lose to them. All it does is make your team look worse if they are beating or
losing to bad teams. For the Ute's you will want the MWC like USU and even
BYU to do good (even though it is hard for me to say BYU), or the wins against
them will not really count for anything. Food for thought.
Sports Nutz:If you "changed because of Chris B", then you
never really ever rooted for Utah.Chris B and all his reincarnations
(2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0, Utah/ucla wins Pac 12 South, etc) do NOT
represent the real Utah fan. But, he has the right to post whatever he can get
by the censors just as you and the myriad of byU "fans" have the right
to get incensed by what he says and respond to it. Nobody seems to realize that
he cares more about ruffling feathers than being a fan, and you all gladly
oblige him.I follow and root for the Aggies except for when they
play Utah. I am not going to let any one person or any of the USU smack talk
dissuade me from enjoying their games.Go Utes!! Onward and Upward
beyond the minutia!!
JohnInSLC:Utah followed up with yet another BCS bowl championship
four years later. Let's see your analysis of the teams Utah beat that
year. byU has not followed up with an undefeated season since 1984, but Utah
backed up it's 2004 performance and has moved forward. What Utah has
accomplished is reflected in the conference it is currently playing in. What
byU has accomplished is reflected in the conference it is currently playing
in.Have fun the rest of the year with your safety QB and your
double-speak coach.Go Travis!Go Whitt!Go Utes!!Onward and Upward!And - go Blue Raiders!
The article should read, "Where do Utah, Utah State, and BYU stand?"Give respect to the Beehive Boot Champs!Go Utes!
Vegas Ute, Totally disagree. How many people hate byu just because
of their fans that are like Chris B?If the Utes were my favorite team it would
be different, but they are a team I would like to see have success but
won't lose any sleep if they don't. GO AGGIES.......
VegasUte:I think you meant to direct your last comment to Sports
Fan's response to my previous post.
@SnackPac...."For all their whining about weak schedules, the Utes only beat
three winning, 7-5 teams to bust the 2004 bcs."Just like
anything else you have to be selective to somehow try and spin things to have
the Y match up with the cougies. This is very little brother like. Why
didn't you also list what the utes did when busting the BCS again in 2008?
Actually why don't you break down a comparison with the
Y's BCS years and the Utes BCS years...oh nevermind...LOL! 4 in
a row, 9 of 12, overall domination of the Y...be glad cougie fans you have two
years off before your next beating!
Utah will certainly have to execute flawlessly to even have a chance at beating
UCLA. The PAC-12 is no joke this year! Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, and Washington
especially look extremely solid. Luckily, we don't face Wash this year and
ASU looks a lot more beatable now after their Stanford game than they did
before. Utah needs to beat Colorado and then two of the following to go bowling:
ASU, Arizona, Wash St., and USC. They are very unlikely to beat Stanford,
Oregon, and even UCLA.Utah is much improved from last year! But that
may not show up in their final record, as their schedule is one of the toughest
in the nation. But the future is bright and hopefully they can pull off an upset
of one of the PAC-12 powerhouses. The most unlikely is Oregon, but man oh man
wouldn't that be sweet!
BYU fans still talking about 1984 and Utah fans still talking about two BCS
bowls really need to move on! None of those players play anymore. It was great
for both teams, but move on already and live in the present. Both programs have
a lot of work to do to get back to national respectibility. I seriously get so
sick of 1984, 2004, and 2008. They were great; but move on. Who cares who they
played?! Worry about Middle Tenn and UCLA!The main reason I wish the
BYU/Utah rivalry wasn't going away for two years isn't because
I'll miss watching it, but rather I'll have to listen to speculation
as to which team is better rather than having it settled on the field. Trust me,
these message boards are going to be so much worse next year! Both sides
claiming their team is better and we can't prove who's
right...that's going to be so annoying!
"listen to speculation . . . rather than having it settled on the
field"JonA:If only that were true.
@SportNutCool enough, and fair enough. Utah has a brutal schedule
over the next 6 games; no debate there. An upset of UCLA would go a loooong
ways. I always pull for the Aggies against everyone but Utah. Good luck the rest
of the way and have a good one Guy!
Spokane, I will continue to pull for the Utes and won't allow
CB to dictate that. I just wish there could be good conversation about these
teams and not always getting on here and seeing crap posted. I would love to
see Utah Bowling. Good luck to you........
BYU looked like a deer caught by the headlights with the defense Utah
showed.After talking to those who were at LES and reviewing the film none of us
could find a hold or block that negated the Kickoff return for a touchdown that
was called back. Maybe either we're blind or the hold didn't happen.
The throw down of the BYU receiver was an obvious pass interference so it looks
like Utah may have caught some big breaks that effected the outcome of the
game.That Pac 12 crew should have been on probation after the fiasco with the
ASU vs Wisconsin game. It just makes you wonder if the NCAA has any common sense
or responsibility for integrity.
Chuckie will definitely be a top NFL pick.
Did you here the one where one football team beat Weber State and broke into the
TOP 25 in the nation?UTAH - nopeUtah State - neverBYU - Of course, why that happened to us last year...we were sooooo