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Utes football: Utah defense preparing to face BYU quarterback Taysom Hill, Cougars' offense

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  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 6:13 p.m.

    When looking at the utes defensive stats, you have to factor in playing against WeberState. That will seriously pad anyone's stats!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Sept. 18, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    Cougars are favored by 7. All the experts have BYU winning this one. Hill will deliver it to Hoffman and Apo in between lighting you up with his legs for 150 or more. Then there's Williams, Lasike and Alisa - will be a long night for conference of champions. Oh, wait - don't forget Van Noy and company.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    I bet Hill, Williams, Van Noy and PoVoy each get like 150 yards rushing. Plus passing and its a long night.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 18, 2013 8:44 p.m.

    RE:Pipes

    While Weber State certainly did pad Utah's stats, that's nothing compared to the padding they got by playing a close game against Oregon State (a team that had previously lost at home to a Division 2 team). Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible competition is how you really pad stats.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2013 9:15 p.m.

    @ Wiscougarfan

    "While Weber State certainly did pad Utah's stats, that's nothing compared to the padding they got by playing a close game against Oregon State (a team that had previously lost at home to a Division 2 team). Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible competition is how you really pad stats"

    BYU should have taken advantage of padding their stats against an ACC bottom dweller couple weeks ago. But they failed! No worries though! BYU has a division 2 team (Idaho State) in November to help pad their stats. They have a few more cupcakes as well like: Middle Tennessee, Georgia Tech, Houston, and Nevada. Gotta love having almost half your schedule against cupcakes to help you become bowl eligible.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 18, 2013 9:50 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan
    River Falls, WI

    RE:Pipes

    While Weber State certainly did pad Utah's stats, that's nothing compared to the padding they got by playing a close game against Oregon State (a team that had previously lost at home to a Division 2 team). Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible competition is how you really pad stats.

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    If Oregon State is horrible then what is Texas and Virginia?

    Sagarin Rankings:

    Oregon State 41
    Texas 43
    Virginia 62

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 18, 2013 9:53 p.m.

    @crimson - U are calling GT a cupcake? This is the team that pummeled USC to finish off last season. They are 2 - 0 and looking better this year than last year. Houston is 2-0 and in 1st place in their conference and looking a lot better than Oregon St, Washington St, or Colorado. Virginia is not a bottom dweller in the ACC - U may want to check the standings. Stick with the facts.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 18, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    Tom,

    Wasn't byu favored two years ago?

    That worked out well huh?

    54-10 beatdown!

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Sept. 19, 2013 6:05 a.m.

    I can't wait for the drivel to stop and actually see the game played. Only after then will all these ridiculous nonsense predictions from both sides be settled. May the better team win!

    Go Cougars! Good luck Utes too after this Saturday!

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 7:39 a.m.

    @ Tom in CA
    How many times did Utah win when BYU was favored?

    Kalani Sitake, you shouldn't worry about BYU's up-tempo offense. Kyle said 90% of the teams who used them (After week 1) lost. I want to say BYU will win, but I have been wrong last 3 years. This should be a very good game.

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    Throw, throw, throw.

    BYU is typically not very good at the corner position(See any byu corners playing on Sundays?).

    And that is true with their first string.

    But now with second and third string guys in the secondary?

    Wilson is going to put up great numbers and lead Utah to yet another victory

    4-0 SWEEP

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    usu has as good of a defense as byu and we beat them.

    And byu's offense is not nearly as good as usu's.

    Utah by 1, 10, 44, whatever.

    At the end of the day the scoreboard will have more points for Utah than byu

    The only question is what will the margin be and what will the byu fans excuses be?

    Rain?
    Refs?
    You gave us the turnovers?

  • STLute St. Louis, MO
    Sept. 19, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Toss the predictions. Looking forward to a great game.

    Go Utes!

  • u25 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    Stopping Jamaal is the key. He's their best offensive player by far. If Bronco keeps rushing him for 30+ carries a game, he wont last half the season. If they loose him they wont win 3 games this season.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    @ Uteology:

    One more thing you forget to mention involving the current Sagarin Rankings...
    Texas (43) is still ranked better than Utah (47). I would think you would consequently feel that Texas must be pretty good. BYU (33) is ranked better than either.

    @ Chris B:

    Las Vegas oddmakers are multiple times more accurate than you with their predictions. And they have BYU picked by 7 this Saturday. I can agree with that... as will most people.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 19, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    When you look at BYU stats, you have to factor in that they played Virginia. After all, Oregon put up a 59 spot on that team. Oh, wait a minute, BYU lost to Virginia. That seems to be the forgotten game; go figure.

    Stat's won't mean squat. If Utah can contain the QB keeper, which Texas couldn't, they will be fine. A one dimensional QB is a problem. Utah is the best team that BYU will have face so far. Texas will end up losing 6+ games this year.

    GO UTES
    >---->

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    The U defense wins this battle. Hill can't throw the ball with much accuracy and opts to run for the most part. This makes for an easy task for the U defense. Just play tight man defense and force Hill into running. I suspect Anae will have to do something to keep the U defense honest in this game and such as throwing to the tight ends more and backs out of the backfield. The wide receivers are going to be blanket covered for the most part. You might see more bootleg type plays for Hill getting him out of the pocket and letting receivers find open spots. As for the U - their QB is good. He throws well and he runs well and the Y defense is going to have to put lots of pressure on him forcing him into some some quick throws hoping he will throw to the blue jersey's instead of red. I see the U having the advantage in this game and they always play well in Provo.

    BYU 23 U of U 35

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    @ Spokane Ute:

    A key item that you and other trolls are either totally nieve about (that would be a first) or have purposely chosen to ignore concerning your Virginia comparisons... Many, if not most of Virginia's key players did not play in their subsequent game with Oregon. Part of reason was because of injuries and part of it was because of coaching decisions. They had already written off that game. As such, you are actually comparing apples and oranges.

    And as most knowledgeable football pundits acknowledge... most of the change and improvement in any football team comes after their first game. I'm certain that Utah's coaches are putting much emphasis on what BYU did to Texas than what happened in Virginia... as well they should. You, on the other hand, are now putting too much emphasis on something now irrelevant. But nice try.

    If you continue to put too much weight and emphasis on the Virginia scenario, you are going to be blindsided and sorely disappointed come Saturday. There is a reason literally all the betting world has BYU picked as the favorite in their game with Utah. Las Vegas has picked BYU by 7.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 19, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    All I hope is for civility both on and off the field come this saturday. May the best team when and may there be no excuses. I also hope goog sportmanship from the fans, players and especially coaches exist at it conclusion. Lastly, may everyone remain healthy and play their hearts out for their school, fans, family, coaches and themselves. Leave it all on the field.

    Go UTES!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 19, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    Tators

    Not sure why you use the word "troll" when someone voices a differing opinion? That's weak sauce. Any way, the Virginia game can not be swept under the rug no matter how you spin it. A bad loss, is just that; no way to sugar coat it. As far as that game being "irrealavent"; I strongly disagree. One win can mean the difference between a bowl and no bowl, or what tier bowl you play in. It absolutly plays into the rankings; don't kid your self. As far as the point spread goes, I'd love to shake your hand, and wager on the game; however, that's not possible. I see Utah winning it, and as I BYU fan, you think otherwise. Fair enough. I guess we wiil see come Saturday night; 7 points is a HUGE spread. IMHO Gotta run, we will talk another time; have a good day and GO UTES!

  • Captain Golgafrinchan Pangea, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    I remember the days when my Ute friends were always good for a free dozen doughnuts from a rivalry wager. It took them a few years to lose enough faith that they wouldn't put any on the line anymore. Still to this day they won't (except one Urban year) put the doughnut where their mouth is. I think I'll buy some for them after this weekend, just to console their flagging spirits.

  • redthunder Ogden, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    @Cougfanin TX

    Virginia isn't the bottom dweller of the ACC? Huh? Explain. They haven't even played a conference game yet. How would you know? They are ranked in the bottom twenty on both sides of the ball.

    Oh! BYU is predicted to win? They'll win for sure! Kinda like last year, and the year before. Truth is BYU is almost always a favorite in this game. And they almost always lose it. Blame it on QB, coaching, turnovers what have you. Whitt gets his boys up for this game. Mendenhall, not so much.

    Prediction #1 Utah will score a TD or Safety off a BYU high snap. C'mon it's tradition.

    Prediction #2 Utah seniors undefeated vs BYU! Not too worried. Taysom can't throw, luckily for us, and our defense does exceptionally well at stopping the run.

    GO UTES

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 19, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    @Captain

    So you have lost 3 dozen the last three years; ouch! It's a good think you didn't bet the farm, you would be homeless!

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 19, 2013 1:07 p.m.

    From some of the Ute fans who have posted this week on the numerous articles, you'd think that BYU is going to be so overmatched and so out performed that the Utes don't even need to prep at all. In fact, all the Utes can spend their time this week dunking each other in cold water for laughs.

  • BC CougFan Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    Bleed Crimson,

    I dont know why people keep saying that Georgia Tech is such a bad team. I believe they are actually doing pretty well this year. In fact if you were to do some research you would see that they are consistantly receiving votes in the ap poll for the top 25. Seems to me they must be pretty good.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    Keeping your starters in the whole game against such horrible competition [Oregon State] is how you really pad stats.

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    Then you would also agree that it's also how you "pad wins" (1984, 2011, 2012).

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    As we all know expert opinions are worthless because of the high emotions in this game it is really impossible to predict. There are a lot of story lines with two good quarterbacks, one QB better at passing, both having weak corners (BYU's corners are 3rd string at best, with the first four being out), both teams have a good run defense. I think the difference will be the pressure on Trevor from BYU's defense, but if Trevor gets time to pass it could just as easily be BYU's weak pass defense, as I said impossible to predict.

    The one thing I can predict is it will be fun to watch, Go Cougars!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:30 p.m.

    Tators
    Hyrum, UT

    @ Uteology:

    One more thing you forget to mention involving the current Sagarin Rankings...
    Texas (43) is still ranked better than Utah (47). I would think you would consequently feel that Texas must be pretty good. BYU (33) is ranked better than either.

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    Nope.

    Overrated!!

    Week 1: Texas AP #15
    Week 2: Texas Sagarin #24
    Week 3: Texas Sagarin #44
    Week 4: vs Kansas State (they also lost to a D2 team).

    I'm sure you are hoping they don't lose to Kansas State.

    As far as BYU, you haven't played a real rush defense yet:

    Utah #28
    Virgina #120
    Texas #126

    I hope Hill's learned how to throw during the bye week.

    Go UTES!!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    @ Spokane Ute:

    I agree. Not all Utah fans are trolls. But there are a few that have earned the title with excessive obnoxiousness. You haven't been doing that. Sorry for the personal inference..

    As far as whether the Virginia game will be meaningful as to qualifying for a bowl. It may, or it may not. Way too early to decide that.
    And as far as rankings go, that Virginia game must not have been too meaningful, since BYU is still currently ranked higher than the Utes in most polls and rankings. Pundits saw the game for what it was... a first game of the season played under horrific conditions that BYU should've won had not coach Anae made a dumb call at the end of the game that led to that interception.

    Personally, I think more emphasis should be put on how a team plays in their most recent games... since things do truly evolve one way or the other for most teams throughout the season. And I absolutely love how BYU responded in their last game. It even quieted Chris for a few days.

    You have a good day too, Spokane.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    @ Uteology:

    Doesn't change the fact that BYU (and yes, even Texas) are still currently ranked overall higher than Utah in the polls... regardless of whether you think things are overrated or not. It's a fact. Try spinning things with side issues all you want... but it's still a fact. Live with it.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    @ CougFaninTX

    "are calling GT a cupcake? This is the team that pummeled USC to finish off last season. They are 2 - 0 and looking better this year than last year"

    Yep! Please explain how the Yellow Jackets lost to Middle Tennessee and BYU at home last year? Beating USC last year didn't prove anything. The Trojans lost Matt Barkley with an injury in the UCLA game. Their offense suffered ever since. Their performance in the bowl game looks a lot like how they're playing this year. USC is not good without Barkley!

    "Houston is 2-0 and in 1st place in their conference and looking a lot better than Oregon St, Washington St, or Colorado"

    Houston beat Southern and Temple in their first two games. Oregon State, Colorado, and Washington State could beat those cupcakes.

    "Virginia is not a bottom dweller in the ACC - U may want to check the standings. Stick with the facts"

    My mistake, Virginia finished second to last in their conference. Which means, BYU fans can no longer call Utah a Pac-12 bottom dweller because the Utes have never finished last in the Pac-12 since joining the conference.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 19, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    Tators
    Hyrum, UT

    @ Uteology:

    Doesn't change the fact that BYU (and yes, even Texas) are still currently ranked overall higher than Utah in the polls... regardless of whether you think things are overrated or not. It's a fact. Try spinning things with side issues all you want... but it's still a fact. Live with it.

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    It's not a fact, it's just one opinion that a 1-1 Texas and 1-1 BYU are better than a 2-1 Utah team. Are you saying 1-1 Virginia is better than 2-1 Oregon State? That was the question, please give us your opinion.

    If you search "College Football Rankings Composite" you will find more opinions (aka polls). There you'll find the following average rankings:

    #30 Utah State
    #32 BYU
    #39 Oregon State
    #41 Utah
    #51 Texas
    #66 Virginia

    So BYU is ranked just below a team we already beat.

    And BYU is 1-1 against two teams that are horrible, as defined by BYU fans.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    When Chris B's self imposed moratorium kicks in Saturday night watch for him to resurface under a new name. Maybe "Darren B"" or "B Lucy" or something similar.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 20, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    @ Uteology:

    Your own latest poll shows that BYU is still ranked better than the team that beat you... last week, and at home!