Dang, so close. At least it was a game that could have gone either way. I think
the big difference was the three interceptions.
The PAC12 is a tough conference. 2 weeks to get ready for UCLA. Go Utes.
And there we have it... Chris B wrong once again.Brace yourself. The
forthcoming excuses will be almost as entertaining as the game itself.
Hard fought game. You have to admire Travis Wilson. Gutty performance, but he
needs to learn that it's better to take a sack than throw into coverage.
Great game utes, it sucks that it wasn't enough. I have a feeling the
defense is going to get some OT work this week. Defense has got to get better,
but there's hope considering the great strides Utah has made offensively.
Last year this game would have been over at 27-10. Utah's offense looking
10X better than last year.
I see improvement in the Utes as they almost kept up with a medium decent PAC12
This is so frustrating. We were clearly the superior team with the better
defense. I planned on getting the other half of my "PAC-10
Annex" tattoo finished with this win. It will have to wait. We'll kill BYU next week!Go utes!!!
Travis Wilson is the real deal. Should be a great game in LES next week.
u will not return to elite statusIt will be years before u even
sniff a South division title in the pacu have become irrelevant, a
doormat for all other teams in their conferenceTeams fight and beg
to play u in the pac openerWhy?Because Kyle Whittingham
is 0-3 in pac openersLOL!BYU 38 - u 13Sep
21MARK IT DOWN!
Defensive backs look lost. Next week a bad pass defense against a bad pass
offense Should be a good one.
I thought there would be more FANS making comments about the game. There have
been more ute fans commenting on BYU articles by this time. Guess little brother
went to bed already
Ute have no D. Only bowling Utes will do this year involves 10 pins.
This was a tough loss for Utah. One observation is that Oregon State
demonstrated very very poor tackling. The Utah secondary really struggled
although that was the long ball. I will be curious to see if they are stronger
against the 10 - 15 yard pass. The fact is that Utah is going to have to be far
more concerned about BYU's rushing game, which will provide opportunities
for those 10 - 15 yard passes. Only one week and we'll see how it all plays
Hindsight is always 20/20 but overtime probably wasn't the best time for
Dennis Erickson to let Brian Johnson call the plays. I also wasn't crazy
about choosing to play that first overtime on the old folks end of the stadium.
I'm a Ute...but Utah will lose at least one more game like
tonight this season. To quote another Ute...mark it down!
I miss Mountain West Utah football, when we were considered the
"underdogs" and played with a chip on our shoulder! Now that we're
in the Pac 12, we think we're the elite now and lost that chip!
I was rooting for the U in this one, ultimately a more seasoned qb who made less
mistakes carried his team to victory. Does not look good for the U. Losing to a
team that lost to a FCS team in Eastern Washington. OSU might be the 2nd worst
team in the Pac 12 besides Colorado (now Utah) WSU looks improved and does not
look like a gimmie anymore either. I hope that Utah can beat those mid major
Cougars next week, because looking at the rest of the schedule, I don't see
many more wins after that. Another basement finish looms for the team on the
hill. Get used to it!
I didn't expect OSU to have much of a defense, but I did expect Whittingham
to have one. Not too impressive Kyle. I think your seat is getting hotter and
hotter each week. Just wait until they play Oregon, should be comical.
Utah actually has an offense this year. Now they have to up against a really
tough defense in BYU. The Cougars have been awful offensively for two years and
then last week against Texas put up insane numbers in a good way. Can they be
effective next week? Utah's defense which has been their staple for years
is now vulnerable (talented but young and inexperienced). So BYU's offense
against Utah's defense is also hard to predict.
Oregon State played a great game, they won.
I think the big difference is Utah apparently has focused so much on revamping
its offense that it forgot you actually have to defend as well. 51 points to
Oregon State? At home? Embarrassing. Like I've said all along, gonna be a
looooooooooong season for the Utes. 3-4 wins is all they'll get.
I am really down. Can Chris B. please mark something down for me to fantasize
All I can say is...What a game. Can't wait till next week. Will the
Cougar defense shut the Utes Down. I don't see the Utes scoring in the
forties. If the Cougars can run like they did agaInst the Horns, it may be a
long day for the Utes. If Taysom Hill can learn to set his feet and connect
with his receivers and if those receivers can catch the ball I think that BYU
will win. If the Utes defense can show up and their offense can keep clicking
along then they will win. I say BYU wins 28-24. The Utes pass defense will
come up way short again...At least I hope so!
The OT loss stings. However, Travis Wilson atoned for his mistakes.
Unfortunately the D let us down tonight. Particularly the last play. If it hits
your hands (let alone goes right through them), then you should be able to catch
the ball. Would-be game ending pick turns into a game ending touchdown, which
had even the Oregon State QB laughing and feeling mighty lucky. Despite the
loss, the way Wilson got them back in the game was pretty freaking awesome. Now
the trick is matching the offensive output, with a better defensive effort. DBs
need to swivel their heads. Hopefully the D can minimize the mistakes that
allowed OSU to sustain drives which ultimately resulted in touchdowns. Credit
Coach Riley for dialing up the trick play on 4th and inches!Shake
off the tough loss, and the Utes should be just fine heading into Rivalry
The Utes just lost AT HOME to a team that lost AT HOME to a Big Sky team that
lost to Toledo.In essence, the Utes are 1-1 in the Big Sky, and, as
usual, winless versus PAC teams with winning records.First PAC 12
game and already eliminated from Rose Bowl contention.
You wanted it you got it. PAC 12 road kill
Both BYU and the Utes have a lot to improve on! Should be a great game! Hope it
will be as exciting as the last three games the UTES have played!
Could we pick up a few local high school kids who can play DB and safety? Our
secondary is sketchy. I'm glad the QB down south can't throw the ball,
otherwise it would be a blow out next week.
Very entertaining game. I thought the Utes play calling in the OT was too
conservative. I wish they had won the toss...bad luck. Wilson is going to be a
great QB. I just hope his greatness starts happing on Sept 22. :)
Just got back from sun devil stadium watching ASU "upset" the number 20
team in the nation. Thought I'd check all the other PAC-12 schools and see
how they did...interesting. Chris B still thinks they have a chance to win the
south? I don't think so. Not with ASU and UCLA in the way. Good game
College football should get rid of the 'overtime' period....Ties
in football are fine.The only exception should be for a playoff game, and
then they should play an extra quarter.If that doesn't do it, then go
to the quirky overtime rules they play by today.To me, an overtime
win is simply a tie with an asterisk.Look back the last few years....
National Champion teams wouldn't be national Champions if they had to live
by the score at the end of regulation.
Unfortunately for Utah, Travis won't be able to run around KVN, Spencer
Hadley, and Uani 'Unga the way he did OSU's linebackers. Saturday is
going to be a looooong, bitterly disappointing night for the Utes.Go
Yes this game hurts. You don't want to concede the conference after one
game but Oregon State at home is a game you have to have. That said, beating BYU
would make this loss bearable. Utah has to bounce back next week and then figure
out their defensive weaknesses with the bye week that follows. UCLA and Stanford
are huge challenges but you have them at home after the bye.If Utah
can go 2-1 in the next two games, then this game will be in the rear view for
good. I believe in Utah. This game tonight was a loss and a
defensive nightmare. Still Utah has some offensive promise now and the defense
can grow. The talent is not absent but the inexperience this year is everywhere.
The thing is though, many of the big plays made by Mannion and his
receivers were just too good. Utah was actually in position but the throw and
catch were just to precise. Taysom Hill won't be that accurate to beat
Utah's secondary if they are in position but Utah has to stop Taysom Hill
and Jamaal Williams on the ground.
Dang - I had marked it down as a win based on Chris B's prediction.
Mannion looked great against our secondary. Was it Mannion or our secondary?Wilson has promise, but the turnovers killed us.If
we're not better on defense and more careful with the ball we could lose
the next seven-nine games. No more gimme's, not even WSU in Pullman or CU
at home.We really need the BYU win for some momentum for UCLA. If
we lose to BYU it will be a nightmare of a season.
FCS (Division I-AA)Eastern Washington 49 - 46 Oregon State.Oregon
State 51 - 48 Utah Utes.Enough said.
I will preface this by saying I cheer for all Utah teams in this particular
order: BYU, USU and Utah. I like them all pretty equally but give preference to
BYU.Utah fans keep talking about "we are in the PAC 12."
They get all high and mighty about it. Well, when you keep losing games like
this (Colorado at home anyone?) then just take a step back. Talk when you are no
longer a doormat in the conference. BYU fans pull it too, they will win a game
and then talk like they will win the national championship.I think I
speak for most when I say I am really disappointed in this loss and Utah should
have won this game, especially at home.Even one of Oregon State's media
guys came on ESPN 700 last week and predicted Utah winning by 2 touchdowns. Not
to say Oregon State is chop liver, but this is a tough loss because it is a
blown opportunity.Let's just hope the BYU/Utah game gives us a
good show and I hope all Utah teams can go on a nice run the rest of the year.
Utah and BYU will be intense next week. Each week we have seen
'as the world turns' soap opera on the field. It's gloomy at
Virginia, then blissful against Texas. Both games had two hour weather delays
and an awful offense one week only to be followed by the offensive onslaught
against Texas. Utah has put up crazy good offensive numbers but the
defense is a major work in progress. The DBs will be fine if they are in
position next week I think though. Mannion was dropping dimes where Hill
won't. The game plan will have to be different though for Utah. BYU is
going to try and run the ball. That is Utah's strength. But their lack of a
pass rush has to be tempting for Anae to try and expose the secondaries
inexperience in my mind nonetheless.
I'm here to eat 'crow'... good game. Oregon State is very good.
A). Travis Wilson could be very, very good!B). All of the worrying about
preparing the offense, must have left no time to prepare the defense: 1. No rush from the DLine. 2. No corners...NONE...
3. Safeties are...well, unsafe.The only good thing in that defense
is easier to fix than the O! i do think Mannion is very good!
Question is HOW GOOD? I feel we added to his greatness yesterday by starting
the women's diving team on the "D" Line...
This is great BYU is going to start their season 5-1 and be national ranked
while Utah starts 2-4 and struggles to be relevant. LOL! I love their
prestigious PAC-12 membership LOL! Where are you Chris? Still hiding in your
mom's basement getting over a tough loss? LOLAll joking aside
I'm worried about next week as a cougar fan. After a tough loss byu
dismantled an overconfident Texas team. Utah will be pumped. It will be a great
game. I think BYU's D will give them a slight edge. In this rivalry game
anything can happen. BYU 24 Utah 20
Mike Riley's "Go Big or Go Home" play calling is a reflection of a
man who understands what it takes to win in the PAC12. Especially when you are
OSU or Utah.
So let me get this straight; Utah lost - at home - to a team that lost to a I-AA
school. Yikes!Oh, and BYU's defense will be much better than
that porous OSU D. Enjoy your winning record, Utes, it will be gone for the
rest of the year after next Saturday.
It looks like this was a great game, albeit a tough loss for the Utes at home.
Their conference schedule doesn't get any easier from here (well, except
maybe the train wreck at USC).As one Ute fan posted, "This OSU
team couldn't beat a division II team. They can't handle the
UTES."With effort, a decent season could still be achieved. The
bar for success now seems to be set at becoming bowl eligible.
Travis Wilson is a competitor! Very athletic for his size. Utah's offense
looked good but the secondary got torched. Looking forward to this being
the last week that Chris B gets to post on BYU articles!Go Cougars!
Fantastic game except for the outcome. One less interception, one
less penalty, one more defensive stand could have changed the game completely
for the Utes. Time to watch some film, get better and prepare for
the next game. It's gonna be an even stronger defense next week, so have to
eliminate the offensive mistakes. Good thing the opposing offense doesn't
have Mannion next week.Go Utes!
UTES hung in there. Tough loss. Awful 1st Q. OSU players looked like they
were at a picnic. Still proud of this team.@ Tators: Brace yourself - I
can't wait to hear the excuses from BYU fans after next week's
game...Btw, looks like PAC 12 teams have no problem hanging on to a wet
EWU beats Oregon State - Oregon State beats utah - EWU greater than utah. See
how that works Chrissy??
Tough loss for the Utes! Go Cougars.
Great game. You can win games with 3 ints; OSU's Cooks at WR. He was
ughThe Utes couldn't beat a team that lost to Eastern
Washington?BYU's linebackers won't allow Wilson to run
over, around and through them like Travis did to OSU.As usual, Utah
is eliminated from the conference chase right out of the gate.
That hurt, the secondary got lit up.Go SEAHAWKS
@cougsndawgsNice classy post my friend, thanks for keeping it real!
Did anyone else hear that loud thud at about midnight?...I think that was
Chrissy B's jaw hitting the floor. LOL!
So does this mean the 4-0 predictions frequently made by writers to this paper
was wrong? Oregon State was sure tougher than Weber. That defense that was so
great against Weber just seemed to take the night off. This is hard to
understand. Maybe things are not as good as we thought? Perhaps Erickson can
coach the defense too?
Two weeks to get ready for a team that just stomped Nebraska at Nebraska
won't be nearly enough for a team that just lost at home to OSU.
At least Taysom can't pass so we don't have to worry about improving
our secondary. However, I think Wilson did a great job last night. Not worried
at all about BYU seeing as how we continue to be solid against the run which is
all BYU has lol.
BYU fans are quick to forget they lost to Virginia in regulation and that Texas
just got slaughtered at home against Ole Miss.
Disappointing loss. Three turnovers will kill. Credit OSU with a nice win
though. Hopefully we can bounce back against UCLA in a couple weeks. That would
be a huge win for this program right now.
With the preseason over and scheduled Cush wins over a good usu team who out
played the Utes and weber state, the Utes lost their one and only chance at
getting out of the PAC 12 cellar with Colorado last night losing to Oregon
state. From here on out the Utes are the underdog in every game probably
including colorado. The Utes program is in trouble, because the prospects for
next year are forecasting more of the same.....welcome to the 70's Ute
@ TatorsYou must be confused. BYU fans are the ones who make
excuses for every single loss. (The weather, the refs, we gave the game away,
etc.) That's not Utah's M.O.
It would appear that beating up on a terrible 1AA team like weber state gave
utah "fans", and the local media pundits, a false idea of what utah
really is. While this game was hugely entertaining it was also a game between to
bottom level pac12 teams. Let's not forget osu lost to 1AA ewu at home. The
irrational exuberance displayed this last week leading up to this game is
especially amusing and the absence of christina, naval, gored, and other such
utah "fans" is an hilarious bonus.So we move on to BYU/utah,
story lines galor in this one.
If its gonna storm with delay this upcoming Saturday BYU to win 25-20. But if
it doesn't storm BYU to win 40-10. Cougar Nation right herr. Sorry about
the loss Utah, thats what you get for making fun of us losing to Virginia haha.
OSU beat Eastern Washington hahaha. RiseUP
I felt the Utes deported themselves well. I was surprised they lost, but the
little things can get you in the end. Not that we should take a moral victory
out of this, but the Utes offense outplayed the OSU offense. Mannion's
veteran experience won out at the end.
@ TRUTHI disagree. Utah showed a lot of promise last night,
especially on O. The Utes will be okay
Should be a great game next week. It can't come fast enough. I think both
teams will fair well if they dont throw a pass. Taysom cant throw it anywhere
near his receivers and Wilson just throws it to the other team. both are
incredible scramblers though. I always hate this week because it feels like a
month has passed before we can play ball!
@2fer"I disagree. Utah showed a lot of promise last night,
especially on O. The Utes will be okay"As utah "fans" so
often like to point out to BYU fans, consider the opponent. utah just lost, at
home, to osu, a team that just lost, at home, to a 1AA team. Doing great things
on offense against teams like weber and osu is no indicator of
"promise". Equally troubling should be the fact that the
supposedly all world best in the pac12 defensive line was completely incapable
of putting any pressure at all on Mannion, a statue of a qb if there ever was
one, and this despite the fact osu was playing with 3rd and 4th string offensive
linemen. Wasn't that what utah "fans" and media types were telling
us this entire last week?Add in the fact utah's oline was less
than stellar, and I am being really kind in that description, and I'm just
not seeing where the "promise" comes from?Remember utah is
playing BYU this week, and BYU is unquestionably one of the best defenses in the
country. BYU pressures qb's and they stuff running plays.
I'm looking for Chris B.'s analysis.
Wow! What a great game. Utah obviously needs to make a ton of improvements on
defense. But I thought our offense looked really good, besides the three pics.
Last year, we would have been done at 27-10. Can't wait for the BYU game!
If we can somehow limit Taysom Hill to 100 rushing yards I think we have a good
chance at winning. If Utah doesn't improve on defense, BYU will kill us. I
have to give credit to Oregon State coach for that called on Fourth Down and
Inches. When he pitched the ball, I thought we had the stop but again at the end
of the play our defenders got beat down the field for a big play. My goal for
Utah this year is 6 wins, which is looking kinda iffy with the schedule we have
coming up. We have to beat BYU if we want to have a chance to go to a bowl game.
I was impressed with the Utes. Amazing mental toughness to keep coming back.
Anderson and Poole have scary speed. Wilson looks a lot like a young Colin
Kapernick. Credit OSU. Mannion is a stud and threw some incredibly clutch balls
on 3rd and 4th down and in overtime. As for next week I see a tough game at LES
with an extremely motivated BYU team coming out on top. I think the Utes are in
for a long year.
The real U fans have every reason to shoot down Chris B every time he posts
something. Didn't we all read how broken the OSU team was due to injuries
and how much of a cake walk last night should have been?BYU fans
like me don't hate the U. However we do get much joy from those who talk
so much smack, then get put in their place. Tough loss last night,
but a very entertaining game. Wilson will have success against BYU, we just
hope that it is limited. The fun week begins!
Ute offense looked good, scoring almost as many points against the weak Beaver
defense as E Washington scored against them.Seriously, both offenses
looked good. Both defenses looked bad. Hoping U don't make many changes
in the D for next week. Williams, Hill and Hoffman will have a hay day.Something tells me that Travis won't be running to the edges
against KVN and Fua like he did against the Beavs. And Eathyn and Kaufusi will
not let him up the middle.Should be a good game. I can't wait
Tough one to lose. However, you can't give away the first quarter and play
non-existent pass defense for four. As mentioned by others, I think Wilson
atoned for his picks . He's still learning but at least he shows that he
can consistently complete a pass over five yards.Now that we have an
offense our defense has disappeared. The two up the middle calls in OT were
tough to watch. One more non-conference game and then back to the ones that
count. Hope they can get that pass defense thing fixed.
No excuses - the Utes lost and to a respectful ORSt team who passing game is
potent and was against a young db group. Also, our D-line sacked Mannion
once??? Got to have more than that against a top QB. Fortunately, their run D
rocked, so going into LES with that stat is a good thing. I'm happy with
the offense production and especially Wilson after throwing Int's he
bounced back strong each time. Don't be fooled, the Ute's are getting
stronger! As young as we are, these games bring quick learning to a talented
team. Go Utes!
Tough loss. I really think the Utes were the better team but made too many
mistakes, but I won't really know for sure until I see Chris B's
analysis on it. I really hope they can right the ship quickly. This week's
game will really be interesting.
I'm a diehard BYU fan but last night's Utah game against OSU was just
as frustrating as was the Cougars against Virginia. I rooted so hard for the
Utes to pull it out because I wanted them to come undefeated to the showdown at
Provo. I wanted them to come a bit overconfident but now I'm afraid
they're mad as heck and will come looking to take it out on the cougars
like they did the last 3 years. I watched the game and truth be told, if the
Utes had played 4 whole quarters instead of 3 and 1/2, they'd won hands
down. It was almost into the middle of the 2nd quarter and they only had 3
rushing yards and 9 passing with no first down. It was pathetic! Luckily they
finally woke up and it was amazing, even with all the mistakes they made which
actually cost them the game. I hope BYU will not take them lightly. The Utes
are good and will get better. I do hope the BYU game will be their last loss of
the season. Go Cougars! And after the rivalry game, go Utes...all
Koloss,Yeah it would have been better if Texas had won, but at least they
lost to an undefeated ranked team. In my opinion it makes BYU look better that
they beat Texas by a similar score that Ole Miss beat them, racked up 250 more
yards on them, and Texas had their best quarterback against BYU.But
anyway, I wish the Utes had won, but it sure was an entertaining game!
Happy to see a few classy comments from Coug fans to start off, but I don't
get why the DN is so willing to accept countless nonsense comments from the
trolls while not allowing about 5 honest responses to them yesterday. Promoting
pot-stirring, I suppose? That's sad from a publication that claims to
"encourage a civil dialogue."
Oregon State vs Utah was by far the best college game this year. It had so many
twists and turns and great risk taking. I thought going for it on 4th down by
Oregon State and making it took guts.The touchdown and going for the two point
conversion almost guaranteed OT because Travis Wilson was unstoppable. Utah has
a good team with quickness. BYU and Utah are both far better teams than last
year. BYU simply has the better defense this year but the Holy War is a toss up
in my books.
Ute fans don't need excuses--if we wanted to kid ourselves we could simply
rely on the y "fan" playbook to feel better:"The Beavers
didn't beat the Utes, they beat themselves""The Utes
outgained the Beavers""The Beavers were lucky to capitalize on
inexplicable turnovers"ergo"The better team didn't
win"But Ute fans are honest. Oregon State made more big plays,
and our team lost.
"That's sad from a publication that claims to "encourage a civil
dialogue."Good call, StGtoSLC. Marshall McLuhan was right:
"The medium is the message."
@cougfaninTXsomething tells me that Hill will not get anywhere close
to over 250 yards running against the Utes. Something tells me that Taysom still
cannot throw very well, because he has not displayed that in a game this year.
Seeing how Ole Miss absolutely destroyed Texas, that BYU win is looking less and
@ Koloss:Please remember that this game, this loss and this article
are all about the Utes and not about BYU or its fans. Save the BYU fan comments
until next week.
I really don't mind the Utes. In fact I usually cheer for them except when
they play the Cougars. I know Chris is just trolling everyone here on the Dnews
comments sections writing things like "prestigious Pac 12 membership"
and such. But there is some kind of satisfaction people get when a loud mouth
gets put in his place. The sad part is that is everything that is wrong with
the rivalry. I'm old enough to remember when it was a rivalry and not
hatred. When McBride and Edwards were coaches on friendly terms. Those were
the good old days and that is how it should be. Unfortunately coach
Meyer's tenure changed that and now Whittingham and Bronco have failed to
bring it back to where it should be. I'm glad the game is going to take a
break. Maybe some of the old timers can let the youngsters know what is used to
be like, what it should be like. A good rivalry where friends can watch a game
together and cheer for their team.
Koloss, ole miss is an sec team. The best conference in the nation. Virginia
lost to number two Oregon. Neither lost to eastern Washington
NewtoUtah, you obviously missed the ASU Wisconsin game last night. Watch the
replay on espn3. Wisconsin had guts on their fake punt. JohnInSLC,
have you not read these comments? You have so many excuses on these board to the
point of one Ute fan saying they should do away with overtime. That's not
honest. That's looking for some way to rationalize the defeat. You might be
honest, and I might me honest, but don't say all uses are honest, and I
don't say all cougar's are honest and all Devils are honest. Of
course, only if you are being honest with yourself!Go cougars!Mormons for Devils!
Tough loss for our neigbhors up North. I did love their desire to win, they
never gave up. If it was not for the interceptions, completely different game
but all facets have to be played. Too many points scored. Should be a fun game
next week, it will have everyone on edge.
Nice game Utah. You are looking better this year. You have finally found a
quarter back who is going to get better. Tough loss,but you played it down to
the wire. BYU fans why are you still so bitter? Utah was invited to play in the
PAC 12 for a reason. Get over yourselves already. Utah is going to continue to
get better in the PAC 12. And they will continue to out recruit BYU as long as
you are not playing in a conference. Don't be surprised in the near future
when BYU does away with football and puts the members money back where it
belongs, building the Kingdom of God on the Earth not on new football uniforms.
Have you ever really stopped to think the real reason they are not in a
conference. It will be easier to just stop the program. Look what happened at
BYU Idaho. I know you will all get off on how the football program is a
missionary tool blah blah blah. The end is near and football or any other sport
is not a priority to the church. There are more important things to spend the
Toocoolforcoug,Lets not start telling falsehoods. BYU football makes money
and is not reliant by any means on members money.Same with Utah football.
It makes a lot of money for te school and does not use any taxpayer money.Go utes!
Has anyone heard from Chris B? He's strangely AWOL. Many people have been
anxiously awaiting his astute post-game commentary and to find out what to
"mark it down" next. Hopefully nothing sinister has happened.I'm confident he'll overcome his sudden illness and will start
feeling better soon.
Great football game. Lots of offense, some good defensive plays and I think the
ref's called a pretty even game. Utes db's exposed as mediocre. I hope
BYU can take advantage
@ Toocoolforcoug:Well of course Utah will get better in PAC
conference play. It's the direction left to go.
@DuckHunterAnd Taysom Hill is undoubtedly one of the best passer in
not only college football but in the entire NFL history, is there any position
that Byu isn't the best at according to you?
I didn't get to see the entire game but what I did see makes me wonder why
so many are down on the ute secondary. Their problem was that the OSU QB was so
incredibly accurate that the ball went in the one place where the defender
couldn't get to it.I'm hoping T. Hill can learn that by
next Saturday. But I think it is realistic that BYU will stick with forcing utah
to stop the run and then slip in some 15-20 yard pass plays. I'm hoping BYU will lay the wood to utah heavy and hard. But recent years
have taught me that we should never underestimate the utes. No matter how bad
they are in any given season they do tend to get themselves ready for the
The utes were beyond fortunate to even have made it close... But they did, and
like a cheap lawn chair they folded...But let's give the
Beavers some credit... They have only lost one game (but then that game was to
Eastern Washington an FCS school and they lost it on their home field). They did
however beat Hawaii convincingly... Objectively speaking, it was a
real defensive battle between two exceptionally weak defenses... I could tell,
atthe beinning of the second half that whoever made it to 50 first was going to
win and sure enough those big bad beavers got there first.Now I
think that the ute's blogging and football expert predicted a 20 point win
for the school from slc... He also predicted that the utes would have an 8-4 or
9-3 year... He also predicted that whoever won the game between utah and UCLA
would win the PAC12 South...Now I agree with his numbers but I
believe he has them backwards... I predict a 4-8 or 3-9 year, and I project
that the loser of the utah Colorado game will once again finish last in the
South Division of the PAC12.
The offense went from abysmal to PAC-12 caliber .The defense went
from PAC-12 caliber to abysmal.The QB and OC situation seems to be
solved, now it's time to focus on our secondary. Kyle needs to
bring in some hired help for the ex-attorney Sharrieff Shah. The Sheriff needs
help.After 3 games it's amazing how baby giraffe from last year
looks like a true Elite 11 and PAC-12 QB.Go UTES!
Where's worf and his "15 yard penalties" and "trick plays"
analysis.The better team won. OSU executed down the stretch and for
some reason our OC called 2 inside runs in OT when Wilson was ripping them apart
on outside runs.Our secondary is just horrendous, thankfully we have
a chance next week because Hill can't throw. Unless that is he learned to
throw during the off week.Next week is a MUST win before #13 UCLA
and #5 Stanford visit RES!
Very exciting game. A 2:00 am finish on the East coast makes for a short night.
I thought the U had it. Looking forward to next week. I think the game will
be close and low scoring. It will be interesting to see how the Y's 3-4
handles the Utah running game and can they pressure Wilson enough so he
can't complete as many passes. OSU usually only had 4 DLs and when they
took the inside lane Wilson got outside and big yardage. The X factor is, what
is the U's mental state after such a hard loss. Many posts here talk about
focusing on UCLA, that could be a big mistake.
@CougarSunDevilAs for "some" of these Utah fans, I hate to
say I told you so. Many were looking past OSU because they lost to EWashington,
and EW will most likely be playing for the National Title in their respective
division, like they have a few times.CougarSD, what a game in
Lincoln. I was very happy with my Bruin win. I was worried with their
performance in the 1st qtr. And, that game at Sun Devil Stadium was a battle.
I am convinced I think that UCLA and ASU are for real, but again it is still
early so I would love to see improvement for both still with a few more wins.
The one I am unsure of is Stanford, I know they won, I didn't see their
game. But to struggle a bit with Army early surprised me. Right now, ranking
the P12 is and using respective division for consideration also 1) Oregon, 2)
UCLA *I'm biased, 3) ASU, 4) Washington, 5) Stanford 6) Arizona*Still some
to prove 7)California 8) Oregon St 9)Wash St. 10) USC 11) Utah 12) Colorado
My thoughts on last nights game. Wilson surprised me, I honestly didn't
think he was that good. If he continues like that, many teams are going to
struggle with the Utes this year. I actually liked Utahs Run-D last night but
not so sure it was tested as running is not OSU's M.O. However, I thought
Utahs secondary got picked apart by what I would call an average to above
average OSU QB. I am not saying he was bad, but their are better P12 QB's
than him and Utah will need to improve that. I thought Utah played tough and I
think they will be in every game this they play this year. Right now I just
don't see them beating UCLA, Arizona State, but I also think right now,
those games will still be close. I can see Utah right now beating Colorado for
sure and very close games but very good potential wins against USC and Arizona.
AZ has not been tested yet this season so I am a little leary about their 3-0
start. Good luck Utes, tough loss last night, but I knew OSU would not be a
@tanmanI felt your bitterness oozing from your keyboard lol
Wwookie:Check out who is the highest paid civil servant in the state -
Kyle Whittingham.It certainly was an entertaining game last night, but I
feel that the Utes made a couple of tactical errors in OT. They should have
chosen the end of the field closest to their student section and should have had
Wilson do what he was doing best ,which was carry the ball himself. I've checked all the posts and did not see any comments from the great
predictor, Chris B. In BYU articles, he is usually one of the first to "
Mark it down". College football is more than wearing a Pac-12 insignia -
it's about winning games in your conference.
@wwookie, dig a little deeper.
Utah teams beating on each other isn't good for national exposure.
Why is it that the DN has not posted the comment I sent a couple of hours ago???
I have also not been notified of it being posted or not... Why?Could
it be because I gave an objective opinion about Utah's season and the
Censors didn't like that??? I'll tell you what... This
paper runs their comment program worse than any paper in America...My comment had no cursing, it had no personal attacks, it simply stated what
most football experts in america have said, and whoever the censor is here
(probably a utah alum, drags his or her feet in posting it... Why?When do the non-UofU Grads work the censorship desk... That way I know when to
send my comments in...
@ UtahBruinI wish I was able to watch the game in Lincoln. That was
a great game. I thought UCLA was going to lose, but what a third quarter! I
agree with your rankings too. Stanford looks vulnerable. I'm worried about
the UCLA game now. I think ASU will drop their game there, all things held
constant. I think ASU could pull off a win against Stanford, but their home
field could prove too much. It will be ASU's first road game. Either way I think the PAC 12 south is well represented with teams not called
Utah. I do think OSU was better than their loss to EWU, but OSU clearly has
defensive issues...as does the Utes. Oregon still looks like the flag bearer.
We'll see if UCLA or ASU can dethrone them this year.
@UtahBruinWhat is your definition of above average. Because the
throws Mannion made yesertday were anything but average. Currently he is one of
top rated QB in the nation and top QB in the PAC-12.Not only are you
bias you are clueless, ranking 1-2 Cal #7? They are the worst team in the PAC-12
as of today. The same team the barley survived Portland State and is allowing
42 points per game.
"is there any position that Byu isn't the best at according to
you?" (TanMan_101)"I felt your bitterness oozing from your
keyboard lol" (ducky)TanMan_101:Typical ducky--gives
us his unsolicited "expert" analysis and then ducks any direct question
that exposes his Max Hall "fan" perspective. Obviously, the answer is
@ poymanYeah the D-news is packed with Utah alums....
I watched last night's game and fell Utah hade the momentum but lost it
when thy could not get osu on 3rd down.did Dale Murphy's son
Jake get hurt or something !!!good news It looks like Usc could be a
win this year!!!
Still no post game analysis or next week marking it down or Rose Bowl
predictions from Utah's most famous comedian yet. I'm getting worried
Congrats to OSU. OSU was one play better than Utah Saturday night. It was a very
entertaining game from the 2nd quarter on. I am not happy with the outcome but
it still was a great college Football game. PAC-12 Football Rules! Bring on
One of the most fun games I have ever attended. OSU made a couple more plays
and deserved to win but was proud of the Utes effort. While our D-backs
didn't play as well as we wanted, a lot of that had to do with a QB that
put balls in a perfect spot for his receivers. Even with a loss, I will take
this type of game over playing NM, CSU, Wyo, and UNLV.Lots of
'trolls' making posts on the article and haven't seen a valid
comment that is worth a reply. Stay classy!
@UteologyI'm clueless? Watch more than just the Ute games and
you might figure it out. It is called understanding the game. Yes, Mannion is
above average. He made throws last night the every FBS QB should be able to
make. Just like your boy Wilson. He made some great throws last night. It
doesn't make him a great QB, but with your interpretation I guess it does.
Mannions stats are of course one of the best in the nation when you have only
played three games, some teams two and you have thrown it more than most in the
country. Get your head out of the stats and watch the games live. And you
don't think Oregon is #1 and you doubt UCLA as the #2 for now that is how
most of the country has it. And Cal #7 you question, because of a Portland St
game. You Ute fans said the same thing about OSU because of EWU. Cal was with
OSU all day yesterday until late. They are better than you think. Advice is to
watch the games, don't jhzt read box scores.
Then explain to me why on every article about BYU there is nothing on the
thread except utah trolls ,when it is not sbout Utah ,but it never fails that
on every article about BYU or even its players there they are without fail 3
in particular ,,and they know who they are myself i could care less about the
utes but i,m not on every single article about them like you know who is
toocoolforcougWoods Cross, UT You cant speak for all BYU fans ,i could
care less about the pac 12 or utah being in it,i have always believed that the
pac 10 was dishonest ,and they have proven many imes that they are,certain
schools paying their players,is not honest so by adding 2 more schools to it
does make them any more honest, i,m actually very glad that BYU did not get
invited to the dishonest pac 12.
The Utes can be grateful Eastern Washington wasn't on the schedule. That
would really have been a blow out since they whipped the Beavers at home.
I doubt that anyone who knows anything about college football would agree with
the assertion that the Running Redskins are elite in any major sport. Just
joining the PAC doesn't make anyone elite even Colorado with a better
football/basketball record vs Utah can never be called elite, nor Washington
State. Stanford is elite, UCLA is now playing at an elite level, USC is not-.
ASU is coming on to elite status with a win over Wisconsin, but they have been
in the PAC for 30+ years with lots of ups and downs, Utah has been around for 2
years doing nothing but embarrassing itself in conference play. You have to beat
elite teams to be elite.
Lightening Lad, do us all a favor and leave the analysis to people wearing big
boy pants laddie. EWU did not trounce OSU, so get your facts straight. Did you
bother to watch that game? If so, you would have seen a QB at EWU who was very
much like Chuckie Keeton (dangerous with his running and passing skills). Most Ute fans don't think of Utah as an elite program, so when you
state "you have to beat elite to be elite" Captain Obvious, which elite
program has BYU beaten in the last 10 years when that team was truly elite at
the time? The very few "elite" programs BYU has played in
the last dozen years or so have typically beaten BYU, often soundly. BYU
consistently loses to the upper echelons of the Pac 12, including USC, UCLA,
Washington.Last I checked, Utah beat an elite program named Alabama
who has gone on to win national championships (note the plural), since then.
Can BYU claim the same?Go back 5th grade math now. Some Cougs just
don't get that we love being in the Pac 12, win or lose. Too tough for you
to grasp I guess.
"The Utes can be grateful Eastern Washington wasn't on the
schedule."Laddie:Just as you y "fans" can be
grateful the cougies aren't facing Ole Miss, who just dropped 44 on Texas.
JohnInSLC"Just as you y "fans" can be grateful the
cougies aren't facing Ole Miss, who just dropped 44 on Texas."I think your logic is impaired. Ole Miss is a ranked, undefeated, SEC team who
beat Texas by almost the same margin BYU did. Utah lost to a team
who couldn't stop an FCS team. Judging by the scores alone, one can
conclude that either Utah, Oregon State, and Eastern Washington have good
offences, or VERY bad defenses. Considering that Eastern Washington just lost to
Toledo 33-21, I'm guessing it's more a case of VERY bad defenses.
@UtahBruin I'm clueless? Watch more than just the Ute games and
you might figure it out. It is called understanding the game. Yes, Mannion is
above average. He made throws last night the every FBS QB should be able to
make. Just like your boy Wilson.------------It
doesn't matter if you watched every single PAC-12 game before ranking Cal
#7. You are still clueless because according to the standings Cal at 1-2 is the
only team with a losing record in the PAC-12. Sagarin has them at
#80, 40+ spots below Utah and 50+ spots below USC which you ranked below Cal.
"Yes, Mannion is above average. He made throws last night the
every FBS QB should be able to make."Hill and Heaps can only
dream of making such throws. Mannion is a top 25 NFL QB prospect, just below
Keeton. If that's is above average then what are Heaps and Hill?
@CougarSunDevilBy season's end, OSU will have a winning record
and the loss to the FCS team will not seem like such a big deal. Opening
weekend loss to a team they knew they should beat but clearly were not prepared
for. I watched that game. EWU is much better than most FCS teams and they have
a very good QB. Toledo over the years has given Michigan and Ohio State more
than they would like to deal with.As for skewed logic, check your
own. The bottom line is Texas is not very good. A week after the loss to BYU,
you would think Texas would have cleaned up some things. They lost at home by an
equally lopsided score. Ole Miss hasn't really beaten anyone yet to earn
their ranking and they play Alabama next. They'll be out of the top 25 as
quickly as they cracked it.Utah's defense is bad right now.
BYU's offense in week one was terrible. Recent history shows the Utah-BYU
game will be close. Utah and BYU are both average at best right now. By
year's end, both teams could have 5 or more losses.
Some of the chest pounding Cougs on this board have a very short memory.
2012...BYU vs OSU...42-24 Beavers with backup QB Cody Vaz.OSU had
more returning starters than just about any team in the Pac 12. If you think
they are that bad, why did BYU lose to them convincingly at their blackout game
last year?This is the strongest PAC 12 since Utah joined the
conference. The Utes will get better and make improvements and they have a very
young team at skill positions. I'm not worried that they lost a close game
to a very good OSU team. BTW, Mannion is the real deal and if you don't
think so, you didn't watch the game. The guy made passes down the sideline
that few QBs could make once in a game and he made them 5-6 times right on the
Devil:You guys crowed so much about beating Ole Miss with Jake Hypes
at the wheel, I just thought you ought to count your blessings this year. As far as Ole Miss' ranking, that's pure SEC bias. They edged
Vandy and then beat that 1AA powerhouse Southeast Missouri State (3-9 last year)
by 18 at home.The fact that Ole Miss then cut up Texas in Austin by
21 points greatly tarnishes the glory you y "fans" have been heaping
upon your team since the 7th. The 180 degree fan chatter has been laughable,
particularly after such a horrible loss to UVa.
Lightening LadAustin , TXI doubt that anyone who knows anything
about college football would agree with the assertion that the Running Redskins
are elite in any major sport. Just joining the PAC doesn't make anyone
elite even Colorado with a better football/basketball record vs Utah can never
be called elite, nor Washington State. Stanford is elite, UCLA is now playing at
an elite level, USC is not-. ASU is coming on to elite status with a win over
Wisconsin, but they have been in the PAC for 30+ years with lots of ups and
downs, Utah has been around for 2 years doing nothing but embarrassing itself in
conference play. You have to beat elite teams to be elite.__________How are things in Austin? Anything is better than
talking about the crummy Longhorns. Hey! you were beat by BYU, a team
masquerading as elite.
DraperBy our same logic, so would the Virginia game be in the
distant past too. But read my posts. They say that osu and ewu were good teams
with bad defenses. However, Osu and Utah will likely not be doing well come bowl
season. Osu has rebounded with two wins against quality opponents in Hawaii and
Utah. Yeah, not impressed. Utah fans are beating their chests just as hard about
their quality opponents too. Utah state (which Chris b calls a WAC team) and fcs
weber st. So quit your pounding if your chest until you play a quality team too
(and win).John, ole miss was two years ago. Live in the now. The now
is Utah vs BYU. This week throw out all the who played who and enjoy the game.
Then, win or lose, go on to lose to my sun devils like you always do, and
everyone else with a winning record in the PAC 12, and some with losing records.
That, John is "laughable" (dumb word too)
"lose to my sun devils like you always do"Cougardevil:I take it you suffered traumatic memory loss in 2011.
For those that did not watch the game, let me sum up: it was a dismal
performance by the Utes and WSU could have beaten the mighty USC Trojans. What?
They already did? Well, there you have it.