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Ryan Teeples: Comparing BYU's Taysom Hill to Colin Kaepernick

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  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    All well & good except Colin K can pass w/ accuracy.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    LOL!

    For 3 years Riley Nelson is Tim Tebow and now Taysom is Kapernick?

    LOL!

    Tell me, id Kaepeernick ever have the WORST qb passer rating in the entire country?

    Don't mock Kaepernick with such a comparison.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    Kaepernick 70% accuracy as mentioned in the article

    Hill 33% accuracy.

    Yep, I can see the strong comparison!

    LOL

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    With little more than the title of this article, Teeples has lost all credibility!

  • Brigham's Brother Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    Why not start beating the national championship drum while we're at it.

    BYU lost to Virginia. VIRGINIA!!

    This last win was nice, but it was one win over Texas team that could be terrible.

    Let's just take it one game at a time.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 12, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    Children, read the article.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    Good grief this is pathetic.

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    Daddykins, we did! Still an absurd comparison. Kaepernick played professional baseball and it has always been known he has a rocket launcher for an arm.

    Hill can't even do a decent baseball SLIDE!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    Laughing at the naysayers!

    Colin Kaepernick was a four-year starter at Nevada from 2007-2010.

    Taysom Hill is a five-GAME starter at BYU (3 games last year, 2 games this year).

    It's silly to even be trying to compare the two at this point.

    Anybody trying to label Taysom a bust this early in his career is simply a hater.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    Kaepernick can pass. Hill hasn't shown much of that his first two games.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    As much as I loved sitting in the stands last Saturday and watching the beat down of Texas, this comparison is probably a little premature.

  • Dukester VANCOUVER, WA
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    Get Real!

    This really can't be a serious article.

  • spokaloo Adin, CA
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    The lowest rated passer in the NCAA is Adam Dingwell of SDSU.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    All this after just one game... really?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    After starting eight games during his freshman year (2007), this is how Kaepernick performed in a 0-23 shutout loss to New Mexico in the New Mexico Bowl:

    13 of 31 passing (42%), 137 yards (a long of 24 yards), 0 TDs
    12 rushes for 26 yards

    If Kaepernick had played for BYU, Christy would have labeled Colin a miserable failure and would have suggested that BYU find a "real" QB to start in 2008.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Right now what we are seeing is the wishbone offense. Once he can run it effectively, then it will be the option read. Hill is young, he will improve.

    Go UTES!!

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    Jake Locker is a more accurate comparison. If you compare Locker as a sophomore to Hill the resemblance is uncanny. Locker was never a great passer, but he was still a good enough athlete to be a 1st round draft pick, and the starting QB for the Titans.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 11:40 a.m.

    Taysom could totally be better than Kapernicks. He is faster, bigger and throws a better ball. You guys just wait and see them.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    Ute Fans crack me up,

    You need intervention and deep psychological help !

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    That's just funny, all the trolls coming to the defense of Colin Kaepernick. When he sent you all's former #1 draft pick to the bench to pick up a clip board and send signals in so he could take the 49ers to the Superbowl you weren't so hot on him.

  • BC CougFan Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    If you look at the statistics provided in the article they are very similar. I believe that is what is trying to be stated. Now I do believe the comparison is a little premature but Hill can only improve his passer rating. And another comparison Jim Harbuagh likes them both!

    Go Cougs!!! Go 9ers!!!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 12, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    Ernest:
    Taysom: 6'2" 220
    Colin: 6'4" 230

    Also, Taysom may be a better QB, but seriously ask yourself, when was the last time BYU produced a decent NFL QB? They do not have a coach that will help him grow. Seriously, look at reality.

    GO UTES!

  • Waylon77 Logan, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    Teeples wanted to be taken seriously he probably should have written about the comparisons between Chuckie Keeton and Kapernick, Keeton at least passes as well as Kapernick, and from my experience, they even kind of look alike (as long as you are sitting near the top of Romney Stadium).

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Wookie

    When was the last time a Utah QB rushed for 259 yards against an elite team like Texas?

    How many decent NFL QBs has the U produced?

    Call us the first time one of them is named NFL or Super Bowl MVP.

    GO COUGARS!

  • sicnarf Orem, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    What a stupid article. While you're at it, why not compare Kaepernick to Joe Montana or Steve Young. Sheesh.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Sept. 12, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    The analysis won't be complete until there is a comparison of tattoos!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 12, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    Snack Pac:

    I wasn't even discussing the U. I know that the Y has produced better QBs that the U has to date. What I am getting at is that Taysom will not improve until he has a better QB coach. He may, as I stated, be a better QB that Kaepernick, but his talent will not be developed by the current coaches. It has been a long time since the Y has produced a decent QB that is NFL caliber. I am not trying to rib or ridicule, rather point out the facts.

    GO UTES!!

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Sept. 12, 2013 3:59 p.m.

    This is totally pointless to be making any kinds of projections or comparisons at this early stage. I'm sure Taysom isn't indulging in this kind of silly game. On the other hand, to talk about Taysom like he has no athletic ability is also ridiculous. Teeples doesn't speak for the rest of us Cougar fans. Let the kids play their games out and THEN let's see what we think at the end of the season. The rest is all conjecture.

    Oh, and BEAT UTAH!!!!

  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    Did Kapernick (a great QB) ever run for 259 yds in a game...college or NFL? It is too early to compare these two, but their running styles are similar. Although, Hill cannot throw the ball to an open receiver yet.

    How can a qb at BYU not be able to throw the ball less than a year removed from being ABLE to throw the ball? It's not like passing is something new to the kid.

  • TOO Sanpete, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    And Grizzly Adams had a beard.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:30 p.m.

    Wow. Nothing but obsessed utes posting today. I thought they had moved on. But I had to read anyway. Nothing like a daily dose of Chris B's signature "LOL" and "mark it down" to finish up after a day at the beach.

    BTW Chris B. "LOL" has become the equivalent of a teenage girl saying "Whateverrrrrr"

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    ha ha ha ha ha .... !

    this story is rich!

    an objective comparison would be....

    ...wait for it ...

    There is no comparison!

    Kaepernick is great and Taysom? ...well, he isn´t even a good QB.

    That may change, but then so will the comparison.

    Again - ha ha ha ha ha

    Zubie world is fantastic!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    Wookie

    "He [Taysom] may, as I stated, be a better QB that Kaepernick, but his talent will not be developed by the current coaches.

    And you're basing your OPINION on what, your BYU-hating bias?

    Do you have even the foggiest idea what kind of a coach Jason Beck is?

    Here's a clue:

    -Offensive intern (quarterbacks) at BYU under Bronco Mendenhall in 2007

    -Offensive intern at LSU under Gary Crowton on Les Miles' staff in 2008

    -Quarterbacks coach at Weber State 2009-11 under head coach Ron McBride

    -Offensive coordinator in 2012 at Simon Fraser (Burnaby, B.C., Canada), the only school outside of the US to be a member of the NCAA

    -Turned SFU's offense (ranked last in Great Northwest Athletic Conference in 2011) into the league's No. 1 offense in total offense, passing offense and scoring offense in 2012

    Some very good coaches were never starters in college; in fact, some never even played college football.

  • Hey Baby Franklin, IN
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    This article could only be published in this media outlet...

    Could you please write an article next week comparing Chris B to Karl Malone? Malone played Power Forward in the NBA and Chris B played "point" for his CYC team...

    About the same as Hill and any NFL QB...

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:21 p.m.

    The best comparison to Taysom Hill is Luke Staley. They both are great runners. However, Luke might be a better passer.

  • Guam_Bomb BARRIGADA, GU
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:56 p.m.

    What a stretch! Why so desperate to tie Hill to Kapernick? There is little comparison. The Nevada offense was revolutionary when it came out with the pistol. It reconfigured the option of Nebraska and Oklahoma in the 70's and 80's and made it even harder for defenses to defend.

    The BYU offense is jumping on the bandwagon of the latest offensive fad. Defenses have already started to figure out the read option. The only teams that can consistently run this offense rely on speed.

    It will be interesting to see what happens at the end of the year and where the BYU offense ends up. Still to early to start comparing Hill to one of the best college quarterbacks in recent memory.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:56 p.m.

    Taysom should be compared to Joe Montana or Steve Young.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    BYU hasn't produced a starting NFL QB since Steve Young and now this comparison:

    "Kaepernick was nothing resembling a prolific passer for a large chunk of his college career. In fact, he looked a lot like Taysom Hill. Granted, the sample size is small due to Hill’s meager four starts. But the comparison still holds validity." -- Teeples

    No it does not. Lets look at same sample size, the first four games for Kaep vs. Hill. Inn particular the QB rating, which the author completely ignores.

    Kaep:
    64/111
    1000 YDS
    57% CMP
    10 TD
    0 INT
    160 QB Rating

    Hill:
    58/123
    651 YDS
    47% CMP
    4 TD
    4 INT
    97 QB Rating

    * Conclusion 160 QB RAT is significantly greater than a 97 QB RAT.

    * Hill is also not a true freshman, he's 3 years more "mature" than when Kaep played his first 4 games.

    * Kaep was rated the #10 QB his freshman year, Hill is currently ranked #122 out of 123 QBs (Source: ESPN).

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:52 p.m.

    Uteology

    You're spending a lot of time frantically and emotionally trying to prove that Taysom isn't currently as good as Kaepernick... like, duh!

    What you can't prove, is how good Taysom will be by the time he finishes his career at BYU.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2013 3:02 a.m.

    @Uteanymous

    What you can't prove, is how good Taysom will be by the time he finishes his career at BYU.

    -----------------

    Past performance is a good indicator of future performance.

    I think we can all agree that judging by his past performance he's more likely to be Tebow-lite than Kaep 2.0.

    I could be wrong, he could end up being the next Steve Young but as of today he's more like Riley Nelson.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2013 4:31 a.m.

    Oh brother. One would think Teeples would be embarrassed to write this stuff.

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Sept. 13, 2013 6:32 a.m.

    This just in....Travis Wilson on track to be the next Tom Brady, providing he improves his passing and decision-making skills. Chin cleft still under construction.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    Uteology

    "Past performance is a good indicator of future performance."

    So you're waying that no college football player has ever improved his performance dramatically after his first five games started?

    The delusional spin that the kids on the hill have to resort to to defend their wild theories is truly laughable.

  • dustman Gallup, NM
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    I'm a Taysom Hill fan, but Kaepernick is a monster. Right now. No comparison.

  • dustman Gallup, NM
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    We have some great receivers that haven't received a pass. Don't even try and compare.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Sept. 13, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    Uteology

    Steve Young's Sophomore season stats, his first year playing, weren't particularly good either:

    11 games played, 56 of 112 (50%), 731 yards, 5 TDs, 5 ints, 6.5 ypa, 110.63 rating
    53 rushes, 337 yards, 0 TDs, 6.4 ypa

    Taysom Hill only started 3 games as a Freshman, barely played in 2 others, and has only started 2 games as a Sophomore:

    7 games played, 64 of 137 (47%), 729 yards, 5 TDs, 4 ints, 5.3 ypa, 97.6 rating
    83 rushes, 635 yards, 8 TDs, 7.7 ypa

    As a Freshman:

    5 games played, 42 of 71 (59%), 425 yards, 4 TDs, 2 ints, 6.0 ypa, 122.4 rating

    Haters and naysayers who are already predicting that Taysom Hill is destined for failure simply because his passing accuracy has been a little off in his first two games this season, may be in for a rude awakening.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 13, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    @ Uteanymous

    Well educate me more please. Help me understand from all of those schools where Jason Beck has coached, what QB has he tutored and developed into a NFL caliber QB. I have no doubt as to the success that the Y had in the past with QBs under Chow, who as you are already aware had great success at USC.

    I look forward to your reply.

    Go UTES!!

  • Y Ask Y Provo, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    Get a clue, fanatics.

    Nobody is predicting Hill's failure. We are just saying this comparison is laughable!

    And it is, even to a BYU grad/fan such as myself.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 13, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    Wookie

    "He [Taysom Hill] may, as I stated, be a better QB that[sic] Kaepernick, but his talent WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED [emphasis added] by the current coaches."

    You're the one "claiming" to be an "expert" here, so why don't you explain to us IN DETAIL why Jason Beck is incapable of tutoring and developing an NFL caliber QB.

    btw, this is what a true expert had to say about Taysom:

    "When Taysom finds a pace he will improve. Reps and time will help." -Steve Young

    Its laughable how Utah fans had all kinds of whiny excuses to explain why Alex Smith wasn't an instant success in the NFL, even after YEARS of mediocrity, yet they want to write Taysom Hill off as a complete failure with absolutely no capacity for improvement after only 5 starts.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    Y Ask Y

    "Nobody is predicting Hill's failure."

    Don't kid yourself; that's exactly what the haters are predicting.

    You might be a BYU grad, but it's blatantly obvious from your constant sniping at BYU that you're not a BYU fan.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    No comparison. Kaepernick has the complete package...maybe in the top 5 NFL QB list today. Kaepernick can run and throw plus he has the height to see the defense. A rare combination indeed. Hill can run...and his throwing ability is still evolving.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 13, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    @ Talkinsports

    Maybe you can educate me as well. Who has Jason Beck mentored into becoming an NLF caliber QB at the schools where he has coached? I am not certain if he is incapable or not. I am asking who he has thus far during his coaching stints.

    I love Steve Young as I have been a lifelong 9er fan. I am not familiar with Steve's comments or what context he may have made those comments. However, upon first blush, I would have to agree, time and experience will make anyone good. However, will this translate into him being an NLF caliber QB? I am not certain. I have only stated the facts as to when the last time the Y produced an NLF caliber QB? And what coaches helped them to get there?

    As for Alex Smith, I am not certain why he even came into this discussion as I have said nothing about him. However, Alex has developed into a decent QB once he had the right coaches in place for his success. Even Andy Reid has made reference to why he struggled early in his career and why he has turned it around.

    GO UTES!

  • Mike W Syracuse, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    Laughable! They're not even comparable... maybe compare Taysom to Eric Crouch, Jamelle Holieway or Tim Tebow, but until his passing gets a heck of a lot better, there will be no similarity between Hill and Kaepernick.

    "Throws a better ball" ROFL!!! Are we watching the same games?

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Sept. 13, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    Wookie

    John Beck and Max Hall both played in the NFL. Although neither had an outstanding NFL career, they were, by definition, NFL caliber quarterbacks.

    Brandon Doman was also signed by the 49ers, and although he never played in a regular-season NFL game, he did spend two seasons on the 49ers's roster.

    All three accomplished something Utah's Sugar Bowl winning quarterback Brian Johnson couldn't, that is, they all actually made an NFL roster.

    Alex Smith was obviously brought into the conversation to illustrate how wildly inconsistent Utah fans are with their evaluations. Utah fans have already labeled Taysom a bust because he's had a couple of sub-par passing games in his 4th and 5th games as a starter. Alex Smith was still being given a free pass by Utah fans after years and years of mediocrity in the NFL.

    If your crimson glasses have blinded you from seeing the inconsistency there, I can't help you.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    Wookie

    Steve Young's comments were made on a radio program today while he was discussing Taysom's passing struggles in his first couple of games this year.

    If anybody knows what it takes to go from a below-average passer who could run as a Sophomore, to a very effective, highly-rated passer as a Senior, it's Steve - in fact, he could say, "been there, done that", and much, much more!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 13, 2013 2:49 p.m.

    @ Rockwell. Thank you for the information you shared, very helpful. I had forgotten about Brandon, John and Max (I actually try to forget Max because of his tirade). I was surprised that BJ didn't make a roster, but he obviously didn't make the NFL for a reason, one that I cannot comprehend because I am not that talented or gifted.

    What about Jason, what QB has he developed into an NFL caliber QB? I think Taysom is talented no doubt about that, but it could go all to waste if he isn't taught proper techniques.

    As for Alex Smith, he was not ready to start for a team that was as sorry as the 9ers were when he was drafted. He, like Tebow, was never taught fundamentals necessary to succeed in the NFL. This has been documented by Harbaugh and Andy Reid as to his struggles early on. He will, in my opinion, only be a game manager and not a Pro-Bowl QB.

    I am not certain why the personal attack claiming I have crimson glasses. I merely asked questions to which most have been answered aside from who Jason has coached into an NFL QB.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 13, 2013 2:53 p.m.

    Thank you BlueCoug:

    Steve is my all time favorite QB. Loved his run against minnesota, classic run of all time for a QB. Similar to Alex, Steve's first few years in the NFL weren't all that great with Tampa, but once he was with a better team he flourished as we know. Go 9ers! What separated Steve from Alex was Norm Chow, arguably a master mind for QB development and he has a track record to show it. Urban, not so much.

    I would trust Steve's comments more if Taysom has a coach that will teach him proper fundamentals of the position.

    BTW, thank you for clarifying.

    Go UTES!!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 13, 2013 3:05 p.m.

    Gotta luv the arrogant, condescending, short-sighted opinions of the haters and naysayers.

    Taysom couldn't possibly be as good as Kaepernick, because, um, Colin is obviously much better than Taysom, today.

    Here's a litte history lesson to prove that your baseless predictions for Taysom's long-term potential could all be dead wrong:

    Steve Young
    *1981 - 11 games, 56-112 (50%), 731 yds, 5 TDs, 5 ints, 6.5 ypa, 110.6 rating (ur)
    1982 - 11 games, 230-367 (62.7%), 3,100 yds, 18 TDs, 18 ints, 8.4 ypa, 140.0 rating (7th)
    1983 - 11 games, 306-429 (71.3%), 3,902 yds, 33 TDs, 10 ints, 9.1 ypa, 168.5 rating (1st)

    * Didn't throw the minimum 14 passes/game to be ranked; Jim McMahon was #1 at 155.0; #20 at 124.4

    National College Football Hall of Fame, Super Bowl MVP

    The truth is, NOBODY knows how good Taysom will become; but to claim that he couldn't possibly ever be as good as Young or Kaepernick is nothing but speculation based on nothing but biased opinion.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 13, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Wookie

    Who has BJ or DE mentored into an NFL caliber QB at Utah?

    A washed up has been and a still wet-behind-the-ears wannabe haven't proven that they're capable of mentoring anybody from Utah into an NFL caliber QB, so what's your point?

  • VegasJazzFan ,
    Sept. 13, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    I may have to switch to the other local news publication* after this joke of an article.
    *publication withheld due to moderator denial

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 13, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    @ Uteanymous:

    Not sure why you keep bringing up the U. I keep asking, WHO has Jason coached into an NFL caliber QB. My point is that Taysom can have all the talent in the world but if he isn't developed correctly it might be wasted.

    Dennis Erickson's resume:
    Ken Hobart Drafted by New York Jets 1984
    Scott Linehan: signed a rookie free agent contract with Dallas Cowboys 1987
    John Melvin "Deep" Friesz: Played for San Diego Chargers, Redskins, Seahawks, Patriots
    Brock Osweiler: drafted by Denver Broncos 2012
    Gino Torretta: (Heisman trophy award 1992) drafted by Vikings 1993

    DE has mentored the above mentioned QBs (to name a few) and this is his first year with Utah, so your statement has no point...or does it :)

    GO UTES!

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Sept. 13, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    Thank you BYU fans for your many posts. I am now fully convinced that Hill will be the next great QB to come out of BYU and star in the NFL!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 5:20 p.m.

    Tim Tebow, Jake Locker...those are closer comparisons, and neither one could pass early in their career. As the game slows down with experience, QBs make quicker reads, don't rush their delivery, and produce in completetion percentage and passer rating. Taysom will be just fine, he just needs more time and experience, just as Locker & Tebow needed.

    For ute fans and haters that enjoy unhealthy skepticism, did any of you watch CKap when he was a Freshman/Sophomore? He was awful throwing the ball, and when he did complete passes they were usually slants and swing passes not where he had to make reads and progressions. I agree that Kap isn't a good comparison for Hill because he is a 6'6 freak that can run. But in terms of early passing struggles, CKap was as bad as they come...unwatchable at times.

  • Zorro Bakersfield, CA
    Sept. 13, 2013 5:34 p.m.

    Taysom may run like Kappy but he cant throw like him!

    What will happen when Utah loads up 9 in the box and dares Taysom to throw?

    From the last 2 weeks I wouldn't think it is going to go well unless he can stop throwing air balls and horse shoes!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 6:00 p.m.

    Wookie

    You're assuming that a first-year QB coach can't be a successful QB coach.

    You're also assuming that a coach with previous success as a QB coach will continue to be a successful QB coach.

    But, you have no proof that either assumption is correct.

    Until last season, no freshman had ever won the Heisman Trophy - yet Johnny Manziel did.

    Until last season, Utah State hadn't beaten the Utes in 15 years - yet the Aggies did.

    Just because something hasn't happened ever, or in a very long time, doesn't mean it can't happen.

    Conversely, just because something has happened in the past, doesn't mean it will happen again in the future.

    New coaches and players come onto the scene and flourish.

    Old coaches and players who were once very successful fade.

    Norm Chow was once a very successful QB coach at BYU. He was far less successful as a QB coach at Utah.

    Dennis Erickson won 2 national championships at Miami. Since then, he was 31-17 at Oregon State, 4-8 at Idaho, and 31-31 at ASU with only one winning season.

    Past results are no guarantee of future success.

  • bigv56 Cottonwood, CA
    Sept. 14, 2013 12:38 a.m.

    Have you actually watched kapernick? Hill has a long way to go to be just a 50% passer. He tucks and runs at the first sign of difficulty. Kapernick is a stud,he makes good decisions,hits receivers and is very accurate. What kind of caffeine free coke are you guys drinking?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Sept. 14, 2013 7:19 a.m.

    VegasJazzFan

    Or you could stay and choose not to comment.

    Comparing what someone may become to what someone already is, is NOT news. Nobody says it is. It is editorial comment. Newspapers do that too. It's okay. It sparks public debate. Which can be healthy.

    Discussing the various interpretation of facts, and extrapolating them to some unknown future conclusion, is interesting. It should be taken with a grain of salt. Either way. But disparaging an opinion, accompanied by facts and statistics, is as senseless as me telling someone not to comment at all.

    Those of my fellow BYU fans who dismissed Alex have been proven wrong. Sort of. Collin grew into the rock star he is today, he didn't burst full blown onto the scene. The jury is still out on Tebow, but right now doesn't look too good.

    Hill is an enigma. One unfortunate tackle could end the discussion right there. But he has already accomplished something that very few qbs ever do. That seems to be a bitter pill for some of you to have to swallow.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Sept. 14, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    By the time that Taysom finishes his 3 years at BYU I fully expect that he will be comparing well with Kaep as well as some of the previous successful QBs at BYU... He's quick, he's athletic, and he has a bag full of tools... He also has a strong arm, that just needs to be tamed.

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Sept. 17, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    After last night's (09/16) game, please don't compare Taysom Hill to Colin Kaepernick. That would be disrespectful to Taysom!

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 13, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    Loved this article!

    Love our QB, Taysom Hill! Great game against GT!

    Go Cougars!