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BYU, Utah Utes football: Rivalry game set, BYU vs. Utah on ESPN2

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  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Crappy late games. You have to credit the ESPN2 appearance to Utah's winning ways and BYU's beatdown of Texas, otherwise this would have hit ESPNU

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    What game is on ESPN? Betcha it wont be better than this game. Mad about the late start, but what can you do?

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    At least Utah finally gets to play on national TV. I guess when you are a national brand like BYU you get to play each week. ESPN decided that since Utah is not a national brand they would put it on late night. If BYU would have been playing someone more interesting they would have made it prime time.

  • Utah rules Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    I hate to say it but downunder is right. Utah is not a national brand even being in the PAC. I'll say it, I am worried for Sept. 21st.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    ESPN is punishing BYU for playing Utah. Nobody wants to see Utah play so they put it on late night. I can't wait to get back to playing national name brands and get back to ESPN primetime.

  • RealBlue Holladay, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    Can't wait to beat the utes. In the words of Kyle Van Awesome, "It's goinna to be a blood bath". The Cougs are hungry and the utes are on the menu. Rise Up, Go BLUE!!

  • Duh west jordan, ut
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    I would rather take the late start then be on ESPNU. Just hope we don't have another rain delay or goes into overtime. This will be a fun game, I agree it will most likely be a very close game. Go BYU.

  • Utes22 SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Should be a fun game. I don't really understand the TV exposure smack as both teams are routinely nationally televised, but unto each his own I suppose. Should be a good game, BYU has an extra week to prepare for Utah and Utah is already looking much much better then last year in pretty much every position. First Utah has got to take care of the Beavers so good luck in practice this week and on Saturday Utes.
    Go Utes!!!

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Go Cougs! Should be a good game.

  • Jenny83 Logan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    Real Blue... Travis Wilson is #8 ranked player in pass efficiency and can also run... Hill is ranked 122 and can only run. Good luck with the big game but Utah takes this one!

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    Remember last year vs. Utah when Van Noy decleated that Utah lineman on the kick-return?
    Can't wait for this game. Texas done, Utah.. your next!

  • souptwins Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    I'd like to call on all BYU fans to follow the old coaching cliche and take this season one game at a time. The Cougars this year are probably better than they showed against Virginia but are not as good as they looked against Texas. Concentrating on beating Utah is a good thing. It's a big game and it's also the next game. Just because we stomped Texas, doesn't mean we will do the same to Utah or any other team. We now have reason to be hopeful, even optimistic but let's not make ourselves look silly by getting ahead of ourselves. There's still a lot of work to be done and it's nice to have the extra week to prepare. It should certainly help Jamaal's back. Now, BEAT those UTES and Go Coug's!!

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Hope BYU crushes the U into the 2 year break! Go Cougars!

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    SWEEP for 2013 seniors!

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    This will be the SECDOND time in the last 15 years Utah has gone 4-0 against byU.

    Do you know how far back you have to go to find the last 2 times byu beat Utah 4 times in a row?

    Far.

    Very far.

    Very very far.

    LOL

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    Ute fans talk about how great their QB is after the Weber State game. Don't forget that even Riley Nelson looked decent against the Wildcats last year.

  • KVN/Hoff want 0-4 against UTAH Ogden, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    Why did KVN and Hoffman return for their senior seasons?

    They wanted to know what it feels like to beat their rivals.

    Too bad they STILL won't know!

    Go UTES

    >---->

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    Be honest byu fans:

    How embarrassing will it be to lose to your rivals FOUR years in a row?

    LOL!

    I love being better than everyone else in the state!

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:11 p.m.

    Get ready for beat down part 4!! Hilarious that it's just another game for the Utes but Van Noy's super bowl!! Sorry little bro but you will finish your career 0-4 vs. big brother.

  • STLute St. Louis, MO
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    We are so humbled and grateful that BYU has allowed Utah the opportunity to play in the same building and be seen by the millions and millions of followers. I'm surprised the NCAA even allows us to play you. Your superiority should at least be recognized by only matching up with national championship hopefuls or NFL teams weekly, right?

    Hahaha. If BYU was truly a national brand and loved by so many, it wouldn't matter who they played. They would all be primetime games on ESPN. Keep thinking you're extra special. It always makes for a good laugh.

    GO UTES!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    With very few exceptions, this matchup is always a good one... with tough, hard-fought battles. More times than not, it usually comes down to the last possession. It won't be surprising it that happens again this year with both teams currently playing really well.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    CORRECTION:

    byu's rivalry game will be held then.

    Utah's rivalry games are later against USC, UCLA, and Colorado.

    Hopefully byu and usu fans are beginning to realize why we are not your rivals.

    We are better than you.

    USC and UCLA don't consider San Diego a rival, but San Diego fans see it that way.

    Power conference teams aren't rivals with non-power conference teams.

    It's just that simple

    There are no great rivalries in the entire nation that involve 1 power conference team and 1 non -power conference team.

    Power conference teams(Utah) are better than non-power conference teams(usu, byu)

  • jej SANDY, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    @Jenny 83 Kyle Van Noy and the rest of the D will be the great equalizer here. Hill may have struggles passing but can do well enough to keep Utah honest. He isn't entirely one dimensional as you claim. He also doesn't make stupid mistakes.We will see how efficient Wilson is with KVN in his face all night long!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    byu and usu fans should be recognizing now why Utah is moving away from playing Utah teams:

    We're better than you.

    It's not considered a "good win" when we beat you. No respect for Utah after we beat USU and look what the national media did to texas after losing to byu.

    Our Fresno series is better as they have as much if not more national respect than byu and usu and they are in a key recruiting area.

    To all byu, usu, weber, and suu fans:

    You can now all continue to build up your rivalries for the chance to say:

    "We're the second best team/program in the state"

    LOL

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:16 p.m.

    Kyle Van Noy says this is byU's "Super Bowl". LOL!! So much for the TDS instance that this game doesn't matter that much! Little brothers are so humorous!!

    This will be a fun game. Utah will stretch the current streak to 4-0. byU laid ALL it's offensive cards on the table against highly over rated Texas. EVERYBODY now is 100% certain that hill can't pass if his life depended on it - it's not just "the rain". Contain the corners and byU has no offense. Plus, byU's corners have yet to be tested. It will be a career day for Wilson and Drez/Fitsgerald/Dunham/Tonga/Murphy, et al. It will be fun for Schultz and Radley to get significant playing time in the second half too.

    Uncle Rico - Van Noy has played against Utah three years now and that is the best highlight you can come up with? LOL!! Van Noy decleated a guy on a kick-off! WOW! I seem to recall also Van Noy "decleating" a punter once,after the play was over, when his back was turned.

    Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    I've said all year if byu wins I wont post on byu articles all year.

    I made the same promise last year

    And the year before

    And the year before

    I posted last year

    and the year before

    and the year before

    And I'll be posting this year, just to rub it in!

    Go UTES

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:19 p.m.

    Don't agree with KVN that it is the superbowl for BYU, but it should be a great game to watch, always a lot of emotion and difficult to predict the winner, Go Cougars!

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    Trash talk about being on national TV? Really? Too many blue fans showing their insecurity about being "not as good as the joneses".

    This should be a good game and is BYUs best chance to beat the utes over the last half decade. But Utah has still won three in a row. BYU had a knack for silly mistakes and emotionally driven penalties that end up sinking their chances of a win.

    (And to address why BYU is a national brand...newsflash- it's because of the schools affiliation with a religion and very little to do with their football program)

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    This will be the second BYU game in a row that you've completely misread the tea leaves. Too bad you've promised to disappear for a year after the loss, because that will allow you to run away and hide instead of having to eat your crow in public.

    Of course, we all know that's a pie crust promise, because you'll be back within a couple days posting under another one of your dozens of aliases.

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:37 p.m.

    Wow, the arrogance of Chris B is laughable! Wanting Colorado as a rival? HA! Fresno State more respected nationally than BYU? HA!

  • LindonMan Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    I highly doubt that USC and UCLA consider the U to be a "rival" but keep dreaming! Can't wait for your 2 year break from posting!

  • Witty Username Lindon, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    C'mon BYU, let's put those Utes in their place!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    Christina

    You made the exact same promise before the BYU-SDSU basketball a couple of years ago, then broke that promise.

    Guaranteed, even after BYU beats Utah on the 21st, there will be literally hundreds of posts by you (under a different name) between August 22, 2013 and August 21, 2014.

    You know it; and so does everyone else on this blog.

  • clehman Sandy, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    BYU better find a passing game in two weeks or they are toast.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    I'll set you straight as to why Utah is moving away from playing certain other in-state schools. And yes, USU and BYU fans are starting to understand it. Apparently, everyone is, but you.

    Utah got outplayed by USU for the second year in a row last week. It's understandable why Kyle is nervous about and doesn't want to play them very often. He takes a lot of heat whenever USU beats the U, and the kitchen has been getting very hot.

    BYU will be walking away after pulling away from Utah in their game in 2 weeks. Kyle knows that 2 of his last 3 wins over the Y were razor thin and the balance is past due to be shifted back to the Y. Everyone who knows anything about college football can understand why the U dropped the Y from their schedule for the next few years. It will take that long for the U players to regenerate their moral after the solid defeat they suffer in 2 weeks.

    But at least the U is still willing to play Weber. And maybe can add Southern Utah and/or Dixie to their schedule.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:04 p.m.

    A night game on the Duce; looking forward to it. Texas was so embarassed by Saturday's performance that they fired their Defensive Coordinator. Speaking of which, who's on the hotter hot seat; Mack Brown or Lane Kiffin? I'm thinking Kiff, but not by much.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    Jenny

    "Travis Wilson is #8 ranked player in pass efficiency and can also run... Hill is ranked 122 and can only run."

    Taysom Hill is ranked #5 in rushing and will improve dramatically in his passing... Travis Wilson is ranked 147 in rushing.

  • jej SANDY, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    @All Ute Fans Everywhere. I will be "jealous" of Utah's Pac-12 membership and Elite status in college football when they actually win. Right now they are no better off than BYU or any other non power conference team. There is no way they are going to beat out Stanford or Oregon for the Rose Bowl/National Championship spot. Until they can prove they belong on the field with the Elites of college football I won't feel a shred of jealousy or insecurity for where BYU is at. This is going to be a great game. Can't wait to see it!

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    Taysom Hill completed 64.3 percent of his passes for 2,269 yards and 18 touchdowns as a high school senior. He also rushed for 1,491 yards and 24 touchdowns.

    Travis Wilson completed 62 percent of his passes for 2,289 yards and 24 touchdowns as a high school senior. He also rushed for 467 yards and nine touchdowns.

    Don't worry, Taysom will get his passing touch back, and when he does, he's going to be a very dangerous duel-threat QB.

  • sheriffcreg SANDY, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Every year, BYU fans believe they are far and away the superior team, and are shocked beyond reason when Utah even makes a game out of it (Much less, wins it). Until BYU starts viewing Utah as their equals, rather than some team they scoff at as their little-brother program (Which hasn't been true for at least 20 years now), they are going to continue getting beat more often than not.

    Texas came into Provo thinking they would roll away with a 3 TD win, and BYU got up for the game and shocked them. Utah will not be making the same mistake. Utah does not underestimate BYU, and has not lost by more than a touchdown for over 20 years. BYU fans had better hope that BYU is not riding too high after their big Texas win, because Utah is not going to care.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 9, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    for the uts this will be their bowl game just like in so many years in the past...back to their future

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    Sept. 9, 2013 2:26 p.m.

    I am just glad we will soon have the game on the field and off the message boards!!! I will be rooting for my Cougs but hope that Utah plays well and nobody gets hurt on either side!!! I think it is going to be another Holy War for the ages and record book!!! Utah is playing well but has not been really tested yet and BYU righted their ship when they had to!!! Good luck to Utah against OSU and see you in Provo Sept. 21st.!!!

    Go Cougs!!!

  • RealBlue Holladay, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 2:38 p.m.

    Chris B --- What planet are you living on? You really think USC or UCLA thinks they are rivals with utah utes? That is probably one of the dumbest things that you have ever said. Sure you can take colorado as a rival. They are one of the worst teams in all the power conferences. USC and UCLA couldn't care less about the utes of utah.

  • Brad J West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    I don't care about the football game. All I care about is the pac 12 stickers on my vehicle. Right now I have 11 pac 12 stickers. And waiting for 5 more pac 12 stickers in the mail. I love the pac 12. I think the pac 12 rules!!!

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    I’m getting dizzy by all the BYU bipolar behavior. Before the season they were the best team in the state. After a miserable loss to a terrible team they want Bronco’s head. After a real nice upset there back to being the best. You fans need to get a grip.

    The game is at 8:15 PM because that is when BYU always plays because they are ESPN’s, rhymes with witch.

    After two weeks in the season I see an improved Utah team and a BYU team that looks just like last year’s team. With that said, why would any of you think this year’s game is going to end any different than the last three?

    All that ever comes out of the “blue bubble” is hype with no substance.
    Go Utes!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    @ sheriffcreg:

    It's also amusing and somewhat perplexing to see someone tell someone else how they themselves believe instead of letting those others speak for themselves. Don't let an oddball fan determine or speak for an entire fan base. Thankfully, BYU fans are smart enough to realize that Chris B doesn't speak for most of the Ute fan base.
    I truly believe that most of us BYU fans do NOT believe as you say. We, like Utah fans, like to think we're better than our opponents. But we're not naive enough to believe we're "far and away the superior team". You're just saying such a thing to justify your negative feelings toward BYU

    Also, it's pretty much a given that the Utah coaches are looking at and preparing for BYU differently after seeing the Texas game. As well they should. They would be dumb not to care.

  • Brad J West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    Go pac 12

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    @Chris B's Momma

    Get off your high horse, Utah had one year they didn't get to a bowl game. We will be back this year.

  • BeSmart Cheyenne, WY
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    It is amazing how stupid so many of these comments are. Both teams are mediocre year in and year out they are average at best. A fan can argue either point well Utah beat Alabama or BYU won a national title both are irrelevant. Both are mediocre, BYU has gotten more publicity this year because they beat Texas. Utah got it when they beat Alabama. Both teams are pretty much equal. As an outsider BYU will always carry bigger weight because they are unique, they are independent and play all over the nation so people see them, but still am average team. Utah is a bottom feeder in a big conference I would compare Utah to Vanderbilt. So go ahead fans brag to one another. I am independent average or I am a PAC12 loser. Either way your status in college football is compared to Vanderbilt for Utah and Boise State for BYU. Neither of you mean much in the big picture. (Average teams can have great years Utah 2008 BYU 1984)

  • RealBlue Holladay, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:31 p.m.

    Big J -- BYU is ESPN's ditch? That doesn't make sense. Anyway, it's funny how ute fans speculate on how BYU fans think, feel, etc. Nobody was wanting Bronco's head, sure the game sucked but as a coug fan most of us thought it was just that, a loss. They are playing late because they are a west coast team, if you have been watching all pac 11 teams they mostly play at night. What time was USC v. Washington State game? But since you are close follower of college football I guess we'll just have to take YOUR word for it. RISE UP GO COUGS!!!

  • Y>U Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:43 p.m.

    Big J

    "The game is at 8:15 PM because that is when BYU always plays because they are ESPN’s..."

    So how do you explain the game in RES starting at 8:00 PM on ESPN2 last season?

    Is Utah's big boy conference, PAC 12ness only worth a measly 15-minute earlier start time?

    Looking forward to seeing the stunned looks of disbelief on the faces of Ute nation on the 21st.

    LOL!

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    @ Big J:

    This shouldn't be news to you, but apparently is...
    All teams get down after a loss, especially one that should've won.
    All teams get up after a win, especially one they were considered the underdog.
    And so yes, BYU fans have been on a roller-coaster ride so far this year. But that's bipolar. It's called going along with the ups and downs of the game. You'll better understand that after Utah's big loss in 2 weeks after a few nice wins.

    Your jealousy is starting to show over the enviable ESPN contract BYU has with them. Your tune would be completely different if it was Utah who had that contract and played on a national stage week after week.

    How are you "seeing" so much after just 2 weeks? Utah won a game at home that they statistically lost and then dominated over a junior college team. BYU played in a monsoon on the other side of the country and lost it with dumb play calling after statistically dominating the game. Then they utterly dominated the 15th ranked team in the country just before they play Utah.
    That is substance, not hype!

  • jeru0455 SALEM, OR
    Sept. 9, 2013 4:08 p.m.

    BYU fans are acting like ESPN loves them so much and views Utah as some nothing of a program. Riiiggghhhttttt... Look at how many games you have on ESPN 2. Then look at how many games Boise has on ESPN. You guys need to wake up.

  • jeru0455 SALEM, OR
    Sept. 9, 2013 4:18 p.m.

    The only thing that sucks about this rivalry is that the Utes could win by 40+ (like in 2011) and the Cougs will still be talking smack and acting like the rooster in the hen house. Their perception of themselves seems to have no correlation to reality. It's like if they lose, they just assume that was somehow a bad dream and in reality the Cougs won. How does any fan base that has gone 0-3 against a team crow this much? It doesn't make sense.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    jeru0455

    Utah fans are still having trouble with one very simple concept - one game does not a season make.

    Win the rivalry game AND finish with a better record AND finish with a higher ranking, then, and only then, can you claim you were better.

    Otherwise, the only thing you won was one-game bragging rights.

    You won the battle, but lost the war.

    How does any fan base that has finished BEHIND their rival in record and ranking in 5 of the last 8 seasons crow about being better simply because they got lucky winning a couple of toss ups?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 5:10 p.m.

    @ jeru0455:

    Well, son of Salem (or whatever your name is)...
    ESPN does love BYU enough to have given them an 8 year contract to play on national TV almost every week of every football season for that entire time. To any objective person, that says there is a lot of love there. Your assertion smacks of jealousy.

    And yes, they are actually playing more nationally televised games than Boise or Utah... probably combined. Check your numbers and facts before getting too far out on a tangent and making yourself look more jealous than informed.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 9, 2013 6:02 p.m.

    I'm tired of all the comments twisting KVN's comment. He said, "This is like the Super Bowl . . . It is plain and simple: I want to beat them. They don’t like us, and we don’t like them, and that’s OK."

    Don't twist the comment to be more than it is. There's nothing about this being BYU's Super Bowl. Teams in the Super Bowl give it their all. KVN is saying that both teams will come out and give it their all.

    I want to win also, but I'd rather go 10-2 with a loss to the Utes than go 5-7 and beat U and sit home in December like U did last year. The season is more important than 1 game.

    If BYU is not your rival, and USC, UCLA and Colorado are your rivals; can U explain why there is not a single Ute comment in the LA Times or Denver Post? And there are 100's of Ute comments from Ute fans about the Cougs in a few BYU articles in the DNews?

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 6:25 p.m.

    @Reno Cougs Fan 68

    I wish we could have more Y fans such as yourself. Absolutely nobody can predict what will happen Sept 21st. As far as people saying "Utah hasn't really been tested yet", I somewhat agree, but USU will be a good team this year and BYU still has to play them. I'm more excited and concerned for PAC 12 play than playing BYU. And BYU hasn't been tested yet either...IMO. I'm glad they beat Texas. All my in-laws, most of my neighbors and co-workers are Y fans, and they all laughed when I said BYU would beat Texas. BYU is much better than at Virginia, and I was really shocked when they entered the polls at all, let alone at 15. May the best team win come Sept 21st.
    Go Utes!!

  • 86&90UTE Holladay, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 6:36 p.m.

    Question for BYU fans. Why, after BYU thoroughly beat Texas, does both the AP poll and the coaches poll have a 1-1 Texas team higher than a 1-1 BYU team? Apparently the sports writers and coaches still think Texas is the better team. And yes I know that BYU is currently receiving more votes than Utah.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2013 7:10 p.m.

    86&90UTE

    SportsFan already answered your question.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 9, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    One game does not make a season? Yeah, right. The Texas game made your season, but the Virginia game never took place. stay classy!

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    It's a real plus for teams that playing BYU gets them on TV. I doubt that the Utah Nebraska game (I think that's who they play) next year will make ESPN.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:04 p.m.

    Dave S.

    I'll give you one "beat down" in the last three years. Sorry, but when the game goes down to the wire, it's not a beat down.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:11 p.m.

    I'm just waiting for someone from Utah to say "Yeah, well my big brother can beat up your big brother." Rivalries with USC and UCLA. Those two teams don't even know utah is in the PAC Conference yet. Bottom line is this, Utes will over look Oregon St, who has nothing to lose now, and lose. BYU will dismantle a demoralized (and eye opened) ute squad. Then, when the Devils come to town, they will clean up what's left.

    Go Cougars!
    Mormons for Devils (ASU)!

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:49 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "The Texas game made your season..."

    Beating the Longhorns is a nice start, but unlike the BYU game made your season in 2012, BYU still has many more fish to fry before this season is over.

  • Missouri loves BYU Lebanon, MO
    Sept. 9, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    @86&90UTE.... that is kind of a silly question.... Right now, nobody knows how good of a team BYU has. BYU did not play well and lost to a Virginia team that isn't supposed to be very good. BYU played great and beat a Texas team when they were expected to lose. Everyone knows that Texas should have better players so of course Texas still gets the benefit of the doubt for being the better team that had a lousy game.... BYU needs to win a few more games before they will be taken seriously as a top 25 team.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:00 p.m.

    But, will the game be delayed by Thunderstorms? Paging Mark Eubank!?

    Seriously, byu may have outsmarted themselves by scheduling bye before playing the U. Momemntum is a funny thing. The Wayne Howard & Fassel led Utes used to do this frequently and get stomped.

    It seems that the Utes of the 21st century play better & are more successful in Happy Valley.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    re: CougarSunDevil

    **Rivalries with USC and UCLA. Those two teams don't even know utah is in the PAC Conference yet.**

    Utah has put a scare into the Trojans the last 2 yrs; I think they know. The classier LA School knows too.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    to RealBlue earlier today...

    "You really think USC or UCLA thinks they are rivals with utah utes?"

    But, Notre Dame & Byu are kindred spirits, legacy programs, & brothers in independence; right?

  • Warrior Parent Belle Glade, FL
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:13 p.m.

    So the UTES Bowl Game will be in September...
    They can Thank BYU for the national Audience... and the loss

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:20 p.m.

    Wally West,

    A scare? that's it? So USC had Utah come trick or treating on their door step and said "boo" to the Trojans and now USC knows that Utah is a threat? A scare? Seems some Ute fans don't give that kind of leeway to BYU when BYU puts a "scare" against someone. Let's be as you say "classy". Acknowledge that BYU put a "scare" in Notre Dame last year who played for the national title. Acknowledge that BYU put a "scare" into Utah and Boise State last year. All you're admitting is that BYU and Utah are equal and even, except that it seems that BYU has given a "scare" to more people last year than Utah. Own up and admit that BYU and Utah are at least equal and start capitalizing BYU in your posts like I capitalize Utah in mine. Start showing respect and you might be surprised to get a lot in return.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Sept. 9, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    Ogden dude,

    Unless you are really young you would know what it is like to be swept by your rivals. counting redshirt years and missionary years RM's from uTAH never beat BYU. fans from uTAH use to count decades between wins. It was so bad that a team once tried to tear down their rivals goalposts after a victory.

  • Smart Aleck Vancouver, WA
    Sept. 9, 2013 10:04 p.m.

    I'm just glad that, with an 8:15 pm start time, I and my Utah buddies will be in bed, asleep, and won't have to watch my Utes meltdown on national TV.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 9, 2013 10:54 p.m.

    BYU by 12.

    There....I said it.

    Now, talk trash and support your team.

    GO COUGARS!!!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:02 p.m.

    @ Chris B - Salt Lake City, UT - "CORRECTION: byu's rivalry game will be held then. Utah's rivalry games are later against USC, UCLA, and Colorado."

    So BYU is n-o-t Utah's rival?

    Riiiiiiight.

    What planet are you from?

    And Fresno is a more nationally recognized/respected team than BYU?

    Riiiiight.

    That light at the end of the tunnel, Chris B., is called "reality". Walk towards it.

    Go Cougars!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    A few quick thoughts:

    I wish the game was earlier. A delay for any reason will just about guarantee the 4th quarter will end on Sunday. That's only happened to BYU once before to my knowledge.

    USC and UCLA do indeed "know who Utah is" because they have to slice the PAC 12 Pie with them, which I am sure they think is a crummy deal. In their mind, except for getting the conference to 12 teams, what does Utah bring to the table? They invited Colorado before Utah. LOL!!

    WSU and Arizona know who the Utes are as well, and they are happy because now Utah and Colorado will fight for the basement and they can move up a step or two. Utah picked 5th, Colorado 6th in the Southern Division. LOL!!

    U think U will go to the Rose Bowl...ever? Look at Arizona for your future. LOL!!

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:06 p.m.

    @ Chris B - Salt Lake City, UT - "I've said all year if byu wins I wont post on byu articles all year."

    No, Chris B., that is NOT what you said.

    You said that if BYU beat Texas and then beat Utah, that you would not post anything anti-BYU for the rest of your life.

    I've got your post saved on my Favorites tab. This is going to be soooooo sweet!

    Go Cougars!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2013 11:54 p.m.

    @ Down Under

    BYU will play Utah late night because the PAC 12 loves the late night Pacific time zone market and ESPN caters to Utah some in that regard.

    After the weather games back to back, BYU has played late games the last two weeks. That could be another advantage for BYU. They already have the bye week and the home field.

    The so called exposure you are referring to was dropped with the weather at Virginia and gained against Texas. That worked in BYU's favor because the positives were aired.

    I love the late night games when they aren't many others on to compete with the good games. The nation will see how intense this rivalry when both schools seek exposure and exposing each other. With the break in the series and the excitement both teams have now, this game in two weeks will be huge.

    Utah also has a big game this week (OSU) and every week from here on out (Weber State tune up game gone).

    With all the advantages BYU has this year (credit Holmoe with scheduling) it will be all the sweeter if Utah comes in and tears down those walls.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    Re: Chris B.

    This was your best post of all-time...

    "Utah's rivalry games are later against USC, UCLA, and Colorado... USC and UCLA don't consider San Diego a rival, but San Diego fans see it that way. Power conference teams aren't rivals with non-power conference teams. It's just that simple."

    So by your own admission Utah does not belong in a "Power conference" because I guarantee you USC and UCLA don't consider Utah a rival either (even if a few delusional Utah fans see it that way).

    I personally love the "holy war" and don't see it going away any time soon. Go Cougs!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    @ Phoenix

    The BYU game didn't make our season, our season was below par either way. Beating BYU is a given, look at the track record. Did the Virginia game make your season? Fans like your self and Down Under make me thoroughly enjoy games like the BYU - Virginia one. Thanks!

  • Sandyclaws Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    @Jenny 83

    Did you know that Jamaal Williams is #2 in the nation in rushing?
    Did you also know that Taysom Hill is #5 in the nation in rushing?
    Did you also know that Texas' defense is much more talented than Utah's?

    BYU will win.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    @ talkinsports

    Taysom also played high school ball in IDAHO. Wilson played in Southern California. The two are not comparable.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 8:06 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "Beating BYU is a given, look at the track record."

    LOL!

    13 of the last 16 games have been decided by a touchdown or less in the final minutes or in overtime and BYU has won 26 of the last 40 games in the series. Any fan who thinks this is an automatic win for either team is either seriously delusional or is just blowing smoke.

    That said, after destroying Texas, I seriously doubt BYU will be even the slightest bit intimidated playing Utah.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    8:15 PM MST. Okay, possiblity another storm passing through, two hours delay - start at 10:15. Game can be played 3 hours? Whoa, Thomas S. Monson said, stop the game and BYU will forfeight and utah win.

    That is stupid time slot here.

  • jeru0455 SALEM, OR
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    @Sportsfan

    You do realize that if BYU played our schedule the last two years, they would have done a lot worse right?

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    @ DEW Cougars

    No, the game WON'T STOP if it laps into Sunday. You, my friend, are pretty young if you don't remember BYU playing one of the inaugural games in the 80's at the Meadowslands and it started late enough and lasted long enough that the game went into Sunday. Nobody quit playing and forfeited the game.

    U partisans wish that the Y would have to forfeit because that's likely the only way U will get a victory.

    I agree the time slot is not good, especially for anyone that needs to be somewhere on Sunday morning and doesn't live in Utah County. But it is what it is. I'd rather give up some sleep and watch Utah lose the game because that would excite me enough I wouldn't be able to sleep anyway.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:09 a.m.

    I am a BYU fan.

    If my team had just lost 3 games in a row over the last 3 years,
    And that team had also beat mine 8 of the last 11 times we played in 11 years,
    I would most definitely feel superior in every way,
    and act as if that other team had zero chance of victory against my team,
    That's just the way I am,
    I am a BYU fan!

    I hope you all enjoyed my poem. I feel like it sums up this comment section quite nicely.
    Go Utes!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    jeru0455

    "You do realize that if BYU played our schedule the last two years, they would have done a lot worse right?"

    You have absolutely NO PROOF that BYU would have done worse against Utah's schedule than Utah did. Unlike Kyle, Bronco has never lost to a conference bottom-dwelling 10-loss team like UNLV or Colorado. Bronco was undefeated against MWC bottom-dwellers UNLV, UNM, CSU and Wyo. Kyle lost to all of them, some of them more than once.

    And then there's this: Bronco beat #16/#17 Utah State last year; Kyle lost to Utah State

    So, we have hard evidence in at least one case, that Bronco would have done BETTER against Utah's schedule than Kyle did.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    Lonestarrunner,

    So now a close loss is a good thing? Really? Wow, spin it Baby. Three in a row and 8 of 11. Put those numbers in the spin cycle. You mentioned the Texas game, but failed to mention the Virginia game? Now that's curious? Selective memory seems to run rampid among your fan base. I'm sure it was just an over sight though. I hope that brings you back to earth (1-1) with a great win, and a horrible loss.

    @ DEW Cougars,

    I love the night game/game time, but that's coming from someone watching it on TV in the PST zone.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    One game does not a season make - repeat that over and over until it sinks in.

    Then consider this: teams usually show the most improvement each season from game 1 to game 2.

    BYU played Virginia game 1. BYU played Texas game 2. ergo, the improvement BYU demonstrated versus Texas is a better indicator of where BYU currently stands, than the Virginia game.

    I hope that helps you see reality more clearly through your crimson glasses.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    8 pm kills any exposure east of Denver. Where's that byu influence that the Utes can't live without?

  • dub45 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    remember last year when Mr. All American Van Noy got punked by Tonga with a one handed catch in the end zone! Expect more of the same!!! BYU has a week secondary that will get exposed when they play. Dres Anderson, Anthony Denham, Jake Murphy and co are going to destroy this secondary! Single coverage on the outside and 8-9 in the box not shooting gaps like the terrible texas defense but keying on Williams and Hill. Ball Game!

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:50 a.m.

    ekute

    "8 pm kills any exposure east of Denver. Where's that BYU influence that the Utes can't live without?"

    ORE. ST. @ UTAH
    Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City
    Sept. 14, 8:00 p.m.

    Where's that big boy conference influence that the Utes are constantly bragging about?

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    @tators, down under, duckhunter, toodumbforyou, phoenix, midpac, etc.

    Wow, what a difference one week makes! After the Virginia fiasco, you were all so silent. We'd all wondered if something had happened to you. You know, maybe a case of humility.

    Wishful thinking on our part.

  • Class act Washington, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 12:31 p.m.

    This game will mean much more to the Y than it will to the Utes whose primary focus is cometing in the P12. Leading by a substantial margin in the overall series, there will be little incentive for the Utes. If Utah loses it can still go to the Rose Boewl but if BYU loses, it is a "who cares bowl or no bowl". Next year Utah plays Michigan instead of BYU. Let me see , which brings more status without all the side show stereotyping and beer throwing. If you ever go to a Michigan game, the fans are respectful and welcoming. Quite the contrast to LES where our cheerleaders get attached and the coaches wife gets roughed up.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    @Sandyclaws

    @Jenny 83

    Did you know that Jamaal Williams is #2 in the nation in rushing?
    Did you also know that Taysom Hill is #5 in the nation in rushing?
    Did you also know that Texas' defense is much more talented than Utah's?

    BYU will win.

    -------------

    Did you also know Tysom Hill is ranked #122 in the nation passing, out of 123 players?

    Did you also know Texas's defense is ranked #115, Utah #51 because we know how to tackle (Tysom is no Chuckie)

    Did you know UTAH is on the verge sweeping BYU 4-0?

    Utah will SWEEP! I will have my broom out!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    There's no need to go back 11, 20, or 40 years to determine which team is best positioned right now to win the rivalry game… the last two seasons should be a much better indicator.

    D1 games won by Utah against winning teams since joining the PAC12 (sagarin ranking in parenthesis):
    BYU 54-10 (#34)
    Georgia Tech 30-27 (#56)
    #25 BYU 24-21 (#26)
    Utah State 30-26 (#41)

    D1 games won by BYU against winning teams since going independent:
    Utah State 27-24 (#80)
    SJSU 29-16 (#96)
    Tulsa 24-21 (#35)
    #19 Utah State 6-3 (#19)
    Georgia Tech 41-17 (#46)
    SDSU 23-6 (#66)
    #15 Texas 40-21 (#24)

    What do these numbers tell us? That neither team has consistently beat great teams, that either team can beat mediocre teams (and lose to them as well), that Utah leads the head-to-head but BYU has beat more winning programs. Overall, I'd say the two programs are about dead even right now, which makes this year's rivalry game so much more interesting. Go Cougs!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    midpacmajor

    Salt Lake City, Utah

    ekute

    "8 pm kills any exposure east of Denver. Where's that BYU influence that the Utes can't live without?"

    ORE. ST. @ UTAH
    Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City
    Sept. 14, 8:00 p.m.

    Where's that big boy conference influence that the Utes are constantly bragging about?

    ---------------

    2014 Top 10 State Recruits:

    Barton … Utah
    Shultz … Undecided
    Mone … Michigan
    Frison … Utah
    Havili … Utah
    Nacua … Undecided
    Rush … ASU
    Finau … Utah
    Dawe … BYU
    Tolutau … Wisconson

    Source: Rivals

    Any other questions?

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Don't know why BYU fans are making such a big gripe about the TV deals. I'm pretty sure everyone saw the Utah-USU game on Fox Sports 1 and no one saw the rest of the BYU-VA game. Most of Utah's games will be on FS1 this year-a national station. And not all of BYU's games are ESPN. There are several BYU games that will be on the CBS Sports Network channel. Plus, Utah still brings in more money with the Pac 12 TV deal.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    Class act

    "This game will mean much more to the Y than it will to the Utes..."

    Which of course explains why Utah fans have posted literally hundreds of comments about BYU since Saturday, while Oregon State, Utah's first conference opponent, has been completely ignored.

    The truth is, the Utes would rather go winless in the PAC 12, than lose to BYU.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:26 p.m.

    RE: Class act

    " If Utah loses it can still go to the Rose Boewl but if BYU loses, it is a "who cares bowl or no bowl"."

    I don't get Utah fans disparaging BYU's likely bowl destination (the Kraft Fight Hunger bowl). After all, isn't that bowl destination a "best case scenario" for the Utes this season?

    At this point in the season it is still possible but unlikely that either BYU and/or Utah will play in a BCS bowl(s). It is much more likely that each team finishes with at least three losses. That means BYU will play in the Kraft bowl. If the Utes exceed most analysts projections (3-4 wins) they MIGHT make it to the Kraft bowl. Yes, it is POSSIBLE that the Utes make it to the Rose bowl. It's also possible BYU plays for a National title this season. Not likely, but possible.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    Uteology

    2014 Top 10 State Recruits:

    Barton … Utah
    Shultz … Undecided
    Mone … Michigan
    Frison … Utah
    Havili … Utah
    Nacua … Undecided
    Rush … ASU
    Finau … Utah
    Dawe … BYU
    Tolutau … Wisconson [sic]

    Source: Rivals

    Any other questions?

    Yeah...how did all those great Texas recruits do last Saturday? When you have to back up your talk with who recruited more stars or local prospects, you just lost the debate. P.S. it's Wisconsin who will lose this weekend and again later in the year.

    Go Cougars!
    Mormons for Devils (ASU)!

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Did you also know Texas's defense is ranked #115, Utah #51 because we know how to tackle..."

    Texas's defense is ranked #115 because the Longhorns played BYU (649 total, 550 rushing)

    Utah's defense is ranked #51 because the Utes played Weber St. (205 total, 69 rushing)

    Funny how that works.

    A great offensive performance (BYU) can make the other team's defense look bad (Texas); while a lousy defense (Weber St), can make a mediocre offense look good (Utah).

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    Wisconsincoug said:

    There's no need to go back 11, 20, or 40 years to determine which team is best positioned right now to win the rivalry game… the last two seasons should be a much better indicator.
    -------
    Ummm, Utah has won the last 3 meetings. Oh yeah, I forgot, those games never happened; kinda like the Virginia game this year.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    "Utah's defense is ranked #51 because the Utes played Weber St. (205 total, 69 rushing).

    Funny how that works"

    ---------

    Notice how the talker forgot to mention Virginia or Utah State?

    Funny how that works.

  • Ifel Of'a-sofa Alpine, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    USU playing USC the same day on ABC!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "Notice how the talker forgot to mention Virginia or Utah State?"

    No need to; the SOS rankings speak for themselves:

    BYU - SOS #32
    Utah - SOS #138

    It's utterly hilarious that Utah fans our comparing Utah's Weber State stats with BYU's Texas stats.

    Can't wait 'til November 16th when BYU plays Idaho St and Utah plays Oregon to hear the howls of protest from Utah fans when BYU fans start beating their chests about abusing Idaho St while Utah is getting abused by Oregon.

    Watch BYU's stats soar, while Utah's stats plummet.

    Funny how that works.

  • Heathbar4u Utah, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:31 p.m.

    Hill - QB in Pocatello, ID. Wilson - QB in San Clemente, CA. The throwing stats in high school don't matter if DB's/linebackers are running a 4.9 - 40 and play football for fun! Hill can't throw at this level and speed. He's a runner, and that's for sure. The Utes know how to fill the run gaps effectively (unlike TX).
    "Super Bowl" - really? It's nice to be apart of a pac! Go Utes!

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    Both teams have some workhorses. Both teams have strengths and weaknesses. Both teams have great coaches. The rivalry game is always intense and always exciting. Both fan bases hope their team walks away victorious. Win, lose, or draw - I am confident that fans from the U and the Y will more than get their money's worth out of this year's game. Here's to the stellar battle that will surely take place on Sept. 21st!

    Go Utes!

  • Coug93 OREM, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    Why do I read this stuff....

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 10, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    RE: Spokane Ute

    "Wisconsincoug said:

    There's no need to go back 11, 20, or 40 years to determine which team is best positioned right now to win the rivalry game… the last two seasons should be a much better indicator.
    -------
    Ummm, Utah has won the last 3 meetings. Oh yeah, I forgot, those games never happened; kinda like the Virginia game this year."

    I'm surprised by your reaction--you're usually more reasonable than this. If you read the whole post you'd see that my assertion the teams are pretty even was based on 1) head-to-head (edge Utah), 2) wins against winning teams (edge BYU), and 3) the overall mediocrity of both programs in recent years. This was, of course, in response to fans on both sides that feel a win is a slam dunk. It isn't, this is a rivalry game where anything can happen (although I personally believe that BYU is going to destroy the Utes a la what you did to us a couple years ago).

  • BC CougFan Brigham City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    Chris B:
    You are wrong that power conferences will never have a rival with non power conferences. USC plays Norte Dame and the country views that as one of the Nations best rivalries. Last I checked Norte Dame doesn't belong to a power conference. They actually are independent just like BYU. And not going bowling last year sure proves that the yewts are the best team in the state. Keep dreaming.

    Go Cougs!!!!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    Man, if my team lost to the worst team in the ACC, I sure wouldn't be pounding on my chest. Nor would I get all puffy two weeks into the season. Maybe some one missed their Snack and it's made the iritiable?

    Sad how that works!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 10, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    @ Samuri Jake

    Nice Post; Well Done. Amen Bro!

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 5:06 p.m.

    Thanks for the love, Spokane Ute. I've enjoyed many of your phenomenal posts!
    Go Utes!

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    Snack Pac:
    I'd love to know the source for those SOS rankings because everything I've seen has Utah with a top 20 SOS.

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 6:16 p.m.

    @steelute - just another petty, inconsequential point of fake superiority to thump chests about like brainless apes, as though TV coverage says anything of substance about the capabilities of either team. Plenty of this idiotic chest thumping going around on both sides, making a lot of people look pretty foolish in the "need to get a grip on reality" category.

    Somebody on here said BYU and Utah are just average teams and pretty equally capable. I'd say they're both probably above average over the last couple of decades, but not consistently top notch, and yes - roughly equally capable of beating each other on a given day.

    A week ago there was simply no point in BYU playing Texas, according to most fans on both sides. I guess we've seen why they actually play the game. The BYU/Utah game is clearly no gimme at this point for either side, to anyone with a brain.

    Go BYU.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    @Jenny83

    Bragging about Wilson's numbers after beating ...... Weber State? Wow

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    SpokaneUte: According to ESPN's power rankings, Virginia is ranked in the top half (7 out of 14 teams) in the ACC, largely because they went 1-1 against two tough opponents.

    Incidentally, even with their dramatic win over FCS powerhouse Weber State, ESPN only ranks the Utes as 7 out of 12 teams in the PAC-12. Partly because they still haven't faced a ranked team, or a BCS team, or played a road game yet.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 9:40 p.m.

    steeleute

    The figures he is quoting are the respective SOS right now after two games, not for the entire season.

    The Ute's SOS is so low because they've played two home games, one against an unranked MWC team and the other against a pathetic Big Sky Conference bottom-feeder.

    By contrast, BYU's SOS is so high because they have played a road game against a BCS team and then a home game against a ranked BCS team.

    In any case, I get a kick out of how Ute fans think their Weber State win is just as good as BYU's win against Texas. And Ute fans claim BYU fans are delusional....

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:57 p.m.

    MrPlate:
    I absolutely agree with you and I didn't mean to thump my chest about Utah's SOS, I was just pointing out that Snack Pac was wrong about it being #138. In my opinion, both teams look better than last year and I think both could make some noise this year. BYU has already made some noise with the Texas game. Good for them and I hope Utah and Utah State are able to get a victory like that whether the Utes upset Stanford or UCLA or Utah State beats USC, I think it'd be great for the state as a whole for football. As far as the Utah-BYU game, it can easily go either way and if any fan of either team denies that then I have no idea what rivalry they've been paying attention to all these years.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 10:57 p.m.

    @talkinsports

    A great offensive performance (BYU) can make the other team's defense look bad (Texas); while a lousy defense (Weber St), can make a mediocre offense look good (Utah).

    ----------

    Really? Texas fired their defensive coordinator after performance in one game? Tell me when was the last time a defense that was great fired their head coach?

    Texas defense has been bad latly:

    2012 Total Defense Rankings (Rivals):

    #5 BYU (8-5)
    #8 Utah State (11-2)
    #48 Utah (5-7)
    #74 Texas (9-4)

    2011 Total Defense Rankings (Rivals):
    #18 Utah (8-5)
    #24 BYU (10-3)
    #45 Texas (8-5)
    #76 Utah State (7-6)

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    Sept. 10, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    FelisConcolor:
    I don't see any Ute fans BRAGGING about beating Weber State. If you're talking about Ute fans that are high on Travis Wilson's play I think most are referring to his performance against Utah State because it was a solid performance and, as Ute fans, we can tell Travis has gotten better since last year. And don't try to say Utah State wasn't a good win because BYU's win against them last year was by far their best win of the season. It's hard to say how good Travis is but we'll have a lot better idea after the next 2 games. I'm just going to ignore his performance against Weber because it doesn't tell us anything. In all honesty, I still don't know what to think about Utah so far but Oregon State will be a good measuring stick to see how far they've come since last year.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    This was, of course, in response to fans on both sides that feel a win is a slam dunk.

    It isn't, this is a rivalry game where anything can happen (although I personally believe that BYU is going to destroy the Utes a la what you did to us a couple years ago).

    ----------------

    So your response is to people like yourself since you think "BYU is going to destroy the Utes" (aka you "feel a win is a slam dunk")? BYU logic for sure!

    BYU has two more wins against teams with a winning records (6), Utah State (7-5) and Tulsa (8-5), as compared to Utah (4). Both were miracle, come-from-behind wins for BYU.

    Utah has owned such teams, considering the only mid-majors we have lost to since the 2008 season has been #6/#2 TCU, #12 BYU, and #19 Utah State. The problem we've had is competing in the PAC-12 (BYU is 2-4).

    Also, Kyle still has a winning record and Bronco has a losing record against Big 5 teams.

    BYU still hasn't proven that they it can throw the ball and we've had a better D than Texas.

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 12:08 a.m.

    @steeleute - my prior comment was in response to your 1:24 post. Totally agreeing with you about why anyone tries to make hay about the TV schedules. Like the efforts to prove superiority a hundred different ways - star recruits, past bowl victories, national honors, league affiliation, national championship, algorithms of SOS/past league championships/who-played-who/quality wins/in-state recruits, blah, blah, blah. Not accusing you of it, just sayin' it gets old week after week after year after year. What a bunch of mindless blather, yet here I am reading it.

    Fact is, BYU clearly has a better national brand and respect, deserved or not, and Utah has pretty much owned us in recent years. How embarrassing to deny BYU's national respect, or to claim every Ute victory is a fluke. Blowouts are few and far between. These teams have been extremely well matched in recent history. The 9/21 game could go either way, and none of the ridiculous algorithms will make a bit of difference. I hope BYU puts an embarrassing beatdown on Utah just to shut up the big mouths of several Ute fans, but Ute fans probably feel the same in reverse.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 11, 2013 12:31 a.m.

    Uteology

    You need to do a better job of checking your sources:

    2012 Total Defense (per NCAA)
    #3 BYU 266.08 ypg
    #14 USU 322.08 ypg
    #36 Utah 360.64 ypg
    #57 Texas A&M 390.23 ypg
    #67 Texas 404.15 ypg

    2011 Total Defense (per NCAA)
    #11 Texas 306.08 ypg
    #13 BYU 313.38 ypg
    #38 Utah 350.69 ypg
    #50 USU 366.23 ypg
    #59 Texas A&M 378.15 ypg

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 11, 2013 12:40 a.m.

    steeleute

    According to Sagarin:

    #30 BYU - SOS #32 (#64 Virginia, #24 Texas)
    #45 Utah - SOS #138 (#41 USU, #178 WSU)

    What do you expect when half of your schedule so far is made up of a team ranked #178?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 11, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    @FelisConcolur

    Enjoy your strenght of schedule while you can, because once the season is over, Utah will have played a tougher schedule; make no mistake. I'm sure you realize Utah just played the weakest team on their schedule, the same team BYU played last year. I hope that helps with your understanding of strength of schedule.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    SOS rankings mean nothing this early in the season.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Sept. 11, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    "Uteology

    2014 Top 10 State Recruits:

    Barton … Utah
    Shultz … Undecided
    Mone … Michigan
    Frison … Utah
    Havili … Utah
    Nacua … Undecided
    Rush … ASU
    Finau … Utah
    Dawe … BYU
    Tolutau … Wisconson [sic]

    Source: Rivals

    Any other questions?"

    Yes, I have a couple. How many Ute fans on these boards have previously claimed getting only the best players in the state of Utah is meaningless when it comes to competing on the national stage? Chris B. and Naval (not sure which names you guys go at the moment) can raise their hands. Funny how this changes once you get a couple of top in-state prospects to commit.

    Another question, how is Utah doing in California? Given the Pac 12 opened this fertile recruiting ground door to them I'm sure they're tearing BYU a new one...

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Sept. 11, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    "BYU still hasn't proven that they it can throw the ball and we've had a better D than Texas."

    Utah has a better O than Texas. The Utes strong defensive performance came against Weber St.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    "SOS rankings mean nothing this early in the season."

    About as much as defensive and offensive stats padded against the 178th ranked team.

    Meanwhile, grinding out more rushing yards than Texas has ever given up in 1,200+ games is impressive.

    To put that in perspective:

    Both Travis Wilson (259 yards) and Jamaal Williams (182 yards) had significantly more rushing yards against Texas, than Utah's leading rusher, Lucky Radley (111 yards) has had in two games.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    "Enjoy your strenght of schedule while you can, because once the season is over, Utah will have played a tougher schedule; make no mistake."

    Unfortunately for U, no trophies are awarded for SOS; in order for SOS to be meaningful, you have to WIN. Constantly losing to every conference foe with a winning record doesn't prove anything.

    btw, Utah's SOS has slipped considerably since the season started. Two of your Top 25 opponents, USC and OSU have already dropped out of the Top 25. In Sagarin, they're currently ranked #37 USC and #42 OSU.

    Current Top 25 Opponents (per Sagarin)
    #30 BYU - #13 Notre Dame, #20 Wisconsin, #24 Texas, #25 Boise State
    #45 Utah - #2 Oregon, #3 Stanford, #16 UCLA, #18 ASU

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 11, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    @Sportsfan

    "Unfortunately for U, no trophies are awarded for SOS; in order for SOS to be meaningful, you have to WIN. Constantly losing to every conference foe with a winning record doesn't prove anything."
    -----
    No but winning Fiesta, Sun and Sugar Bowls do.

    As far as record goes, we are 2-0, you? 1-1, with a hoooorible loss to Virginia. The same team that got throttle by Oregon. Umm, we haven't played anyone in the PAC 12 yet, so it's a little difficult to have any %. How's your conference record? Oh that's right, no conference will have BYU; how sad.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 1:16 p.m.

    LOL at your Sun Bowl chest beating. U barely beat the 56th ranked team in OT on UTEP's home field. Seriously, why would anybody want to spend New Year's Eve in El Paso?

    You are 1-0 versus FBS teams and haven't played a single "power conference" team. You might want to wait on using Oregon's thrashing of Virginia to bolster your resume until after we see how badly Oregon thrashes U.

    BYU just shredded TEXAS for 550 rushing yards, the most rushing yards ever given up by Texas in over 1,200 games. When was the last time Utah even came close to rushing for 550 yards against ANYBODY?

    The truth is, U weren't invited to the PAC because of the quality of your football program. I know that hurts, but it's becoming painfully obvious to anyone not living on the hill, that the Utes are nothing but whipping boys for the big boys of the conference.

  • Y>U Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 11, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Winning the Sun Bowl proved absolutely NOTHING - the Utes actually DROPPED in the rankings after squeaking past mediocre Georgia Tech in OT.

    As far a record goes, you're 7-11 in conference during your 1st two years in the PAC and you haven't beaten a single conference opponent with a winning record.

    BYU has as much chance of winning a conference championship as the Utes. Laughable!

    Can't wait to see hypocritic reaction of the kids on the hill when BYU fans compare BYU's stats versus Idaho State to Utah's stats versus Oregon in a couple of months.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    @ SportsFan

    Radley is Utah's FOURTH string RB and every one of his yards came in the second half against Weber St. Utah's other three backs (York, Poole, and K. Williams) have lower yards because 1)they are running by committee and 2) because Utah isn't a completely one-dimensional team. Utah has been able to move the ball through the air quite well this season which means they haven't needed to use the run game as a crutch like they did in the past couple seasons and like BYU has done so far this season.

    Also, Travis Wilson has been great through the first two weeks, but I do not believe he had that many yards against Texas.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 11, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    skywalker

    Palo Alto, CA

    Uteology

    You need to do a better job of checking your sources:

    ---------------

    You're measuring YPG, Rivals default measurement is PPG.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 3:37 p.m.

    2fer

    "Utah has been able to move the ball through the air quite well this season which means they haven't needed to use the run game as a crutch like they did in the past couple seasons and like BYU has done so far this season."

    Since when is using a dominant running game "a crutch"?

    BYU continued running the ball against Texas because, quite frankly, Texas couldn't stop BYU's running game. At one point, BYU ran 27 straight running plays versus the Longhorns.

    Your whiny excuse for Utah's mediocre running game is laughable.

    Your top 3 RBs, York, Poole, and K. Williams, COMBINED only had 189 yards TOTAL in TWO games, against the 138th ranked SOS.

    Jamaal Williams had 182 yards in ONE game versus Texas.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    Stats will be worthless when trying to shake the nightmare, the humiliation, and the reality of an 0-4 career against the Utes.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    Sept. 11, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    Uteology

    If you're comparing defenses, yards-per-game is a much more accurate measurement tool than points-per-game, unless you filter out all points scored when the defense wasn't on the field and points scored when the defense was given a short field to defend.

    Even a great defense can be made to look mediocre by points-per-game if their offense or special teams are giving up scores or turnovers that allow the opponent to score without the defense having a reasonable chance of stopping them.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Sept. 11, 2013 5:05 p.m.

    Down under
    Salt Lake City, UT
    At least Utah finally gets to play on national TV. I guess when you are a national brand like BYU you get to play each week. ESPN decided that since Utah is not a national brand they would put it on late night. If BYU would have been playing someone more interesting they would have made it prime time.

    ________

    Here we go again. You know there are lots of "national brands" BYU is masquerading as one. It has a strong western states following, and a few customers/fans everywhere else. Nobody is buying the claim as national brand other than BYU. And ESPN is stuck with saying it due to making that contract. When people grow tired of products, they move on to other brands. Apparently the BYU brand has not caught on with people. Just look at the ratings nationally. BYU will always be the brand whipping boy bottom feeder of USC, Ohio St. Alabama and other real brands.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 11, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    @ Marked it Down

    They also combined to have 7 total rush attempts in one of those games. Weak spin.

    Also, BYU's run game is a crutch because it is literally the only way BYU can move the ball. It "supports" their entire offense. The Cougars this season are more one-dimensional than the Air Force Academy, and that's not an exaggeration.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 11, 2013 5:51 p.m.

    It's going to be so sweet watching the arrogance on the hill smashed into oblivion.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Sept. 11, 2013 7:23 p.m.

    RE: WACPaddingOurSchedule

    "Here we go again. You know there are lots of "national brands" BYU is masquerading as one. It has a strong western states following, and a few customers/fans everywhere else. Nobody is buying the claim as national brand other than BYU. And ESPN is stuck with saying it due to making that contract."

    Here we go again is right. No one is claiming "national powerhouse" but to say BYU has a national following is fairly accurate. BYU has the 43rd largest fanbase (710k) according to the New York Times study done a few years ago (as compared to Utah's 63rd ranked, 351k fans). That ranks them ahead of 27 BCS schools, including most of the PAC12 (Utah ranks ahead of six total BCS schools). While I agree with you that that doesn't exactly qualify as a "national following" it's more than just "a few fans/customers everywhere else." And disparage all you want but nothing is more "national" when it comes to t.v. than ESPN. Go Cougs!

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 11, 2013 8:54 p.m.

    2fer

    Texas sold out to stop BYU's passing game and BYU took what the Longhorns gave them and made them pay to the tune of 550 yards on the ground, the most rushing yards EVER given up by Texas. Our friends on the hill could only look on with envy, because the Utes have NEVER dominated an elite program like Texas so thoroughly.

    Even Utah's greatest victory ever, pales by comparison:

    BYU vs Texas 40-21 +19
    1stDwn 32-22 +10
    Rush 550-132 +418
    Pass 129-313 -184
    Total 679-445 +234

    Utah vs Alabama 31-17 +14
    1stDwn 22-15 +7
    Rush 13-31 -18
    Pass 336-177 +159
    Total 349-208 +141

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    Sept. 11, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    2fer

    According to your "theory", Utah's passing game in 2008 versus Alabama was a "crutch," because it was literally the ONLY way the Utes could move the ball.

    The Utes only managed THIRTEEN yards TOTAL versus the Crimson Tide.

    Taysom AVERAGED nearly that many yards on EVERY carry, in addition to passing for 129 yards.

    The delusional, crimson-shaded spin on the hill never stops.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 7:20 a.m.

    @ talkinsports

    Alabama was a top 5 team and it was definitely not a home game for Utah. BYU was at home, and Texas is not a top 25 team. It takes a lot of audacity to claim that a week 2 victory over a mediocre team makes Utah's Sugar Bowl win "pale by comparison." I've read some ridiculous things on here, but wow.....

    Utah moved the ball very well through the air in the Sugar Bowl, but throughout the season Utah proved to be a strong running team too. Asiata had over 700 yards on the ground, Mack had over 500, and as a team Utah had over 2000 yards on the ground. At the same time BJ threw for just under 3000 yards. Utah could do both. So far this year, BYU cannot. The only thing BYU has been able to do so far this season is run the read-option. That's not delusional spin. It's what we like to call a fact

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    talkinsports

    Nobody knows how good, or bad, this Texas team will turn out to be by season's end, but there's no question that the Utes didn't even come close to dominating Alabama the way BYU dominated Texas.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    2fer

    Despite your whiny excuses, BYU dominated Texas to a degree that far exceeds what Utah did to Alabama.

    Utah's season-long stats are meaningless when it comes to evaluating Utah's offensive production versus Alabama. The Utes were forced to use their passing game as a crutch, because their running game versus Alabama was NON-EXISTENT!

    No matter how much you spin it, THIRTEEN rushing yards TOTAL is proof positive that the Utes couldn't "do both" versus Alabama.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    two fer

    Your "facts" are a little off; Alabama wasn't quite a Top 5 team in 2008.

    Alabama finished #6 in the AP and Coaches polls.

    It's laughable how Utah fans distort the "facts" according to their own crimson-shaded view of the world.

    If Alabama was a Top 5 team in 2008 (because they were ranked in the Top 5 when Utah played them), then Texas was a Top 15 team in 2013 (because were ranked in the Top 15 when BYU played them).

    I know it's hard, but try to show at least a little consistency in your comparisons.

  • u25 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    Enjoy your one win now because it might be your last. your offense will not exist soon. With Williams carrying the ball >30 times and Hill >15 times a game neither can withstand that especially when you play every week. Both will be on the bench bench to beat up to play. Good thing you have a bye this week or Williams wouldnt be able to play, your backups are a huge drop off at running back and your backup quarterback can only throw and your oline cant pass block so that wont work.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 10:20 a.m.

    There's no comparing the Alabama team we beat in '08 (ranked #1 six consecutive weeks, more than any other team in the country) to your now NON-RANKED Longhorns team, who despite all the 5-star recruits, clearly forgot how to "bring the hat." All the claims that they "geared up to stop the passing attack" are completely false, as even Texas knew going into the game that Taysom Hill is not a passing threat whatsoever.

    The delusions and envy continue...! We beat the best team in the country, no matter how you attempt to spin your 2nd week shocker (even TDS fans were shocked after coming out of hiding following the week one embarrassment) as being on the same level. Keep dreaming. Go Utes!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    u25

    "Enjoy your one win now because it might be your last. your offense will not exist soon."

    Says another jealous BYU-hater who thinks he's an expert.

    -----------

    Samurai Jake

    "There's no comparing the Alabama team we beat in '08..."

    We're only two weeks into the season. How could you possibly know how good Texas will be by season's end?

    The fact remains. Utah has NEVER dominated any elite team to the degree that BYU dominated Texas.

  • UU702 Layton, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 1:12 p.m.

    Six words for the UTES...oregon state, oregon state, oregon state

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    UU702

    "Six words for the UTES...oregon state, oregon state, oregon state..."

    Posted on an article about the BYU-Utah game - ironic.

  • UU702 Layton, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    uteBusters

    Not "ironic" if you are in a power conference and have a conference game before your mid-major opponent.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 12, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    UU702

    Being in a power conference and having a conference game before your most hated rival of course explains why you're here trying to refocus attention back to Oregon State.

    If your "conference game" with OSU was really as important to Utah fans as you pretend it is, you wouldn't even have to mention it.

    Guaranteed, you won't have to direct attention back to BYU next week to avoid looking ahead to your "conference game".

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 5:15 p.m.

    To Chris B. I hope you keep commenting, your comments are so entertaining. I hope you will keep commenting for the next two years too after your superior Utes take their lumps in Provo and you get to ponder that lovely loosing feeling for two years!.

    LOL!

  • FanofBYU American Fork, UT
    Sept. 12, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    This late start means that the game will be on prime time for west coast. Unfortunately for many fans back east, if they want to watch the game, they will be up into the wee hours. My guess is that is exactly what they will be doing. If BYU wants to expand their recruiting onto the west coast, they need to take advantage of this game and they need to perform another Texas beatdown.

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    Sept. 13, 2013 12:44 a.m.

    I love how a Ute fan points out to this years recruiting class and shows how dominate they are in Utah. Aren't those slow, choir boys as Chris B. calls them. I thought that since Utah is in a power conference that they can recruit anywhere in the nation. Last I saw BYU was in between 50-60 in rivals and scouts, while Utah was 70-75 in the 2 services. Pretty sad when a weak, mid-conference type program like BYU is getting better recruits. Look for the ranking go up, won't be surprised if that Fred Werner kid is rated higher by the end of the season. All the Pac-12 schools want him now. He is getting a lot of love in southern cal from the recruiting sites!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    @ backpacn

    Do you seriously not understand that 'Bama in 2008 was significantly better than Texas is/will be this year? Also, in the Sugar Bowl Utah was up 21 to 0 and Utah had only rushed the ball TWICE at that point, once for a TD. In fact, Mack and Asiata combined for a total of 17 caries that game, and 11 of them came late in the second half when Utah was trying to kill the clock. It's blatantly obvious that Utah didn't even try to establish the run. The game plan was pass heavy from the start. On the other hand, Taysom threw 26 passes against Texas (and only completed 9). There were even more pass plays called but Hill decided to scramble on several of them. Point is, BYU didn't come into the Texas game with a plan to run like that. The Cougars tried to establish the pass in each of the last two weeks, with very little success. BYU has to run so much that because the passing game is completely non-existent. Lucky you found a team who was completely unprepared for it.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    @ Rockwell

    My (honest) mistake; Alabama was a top 6 team. I apologize for trying to distort facts. We all know what a monumental drop off there is between the 5th and 6th ranked teams....

    @ Snack PAC

    Because we all watched Texas play. Nobody knows how to tackle, their QB is terribly inconsistent, and they just fired their D coordinator. Definitely not the mark of a good team. Also, the fact remains that this year Texas is not an elite team.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    2fer

    "Do you seriously not understand that 'Bama in 2008 was significantly better than Texas is/will be this year?"

    And you know this how?

    Utah fans are constantly assuming that their particular snapshot in time is the only valid view of the world, and that nothing before or after that particular moment in time is valid.

    Utah's early domination of Alabama negates the much closer final results (in the view of Utah fans), yet Colorado's early domination of Utah (in 2011) is completely ignored by those same Utah fans, because the final results were much closer.

    The inconsistency on the hill is laughable.

    It is possible, you know, that instead of Texas being awful, BYU was simply much better. I know that's a difficult concept for the hill trolls to accept, but it is possible.

    Regardless, the fact remains, Utah has NEVER dominated an elite program to the extent that BYU dominated Texas.

    The final stats are proof of that.

  • West Jordan Ute West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    Reading these comments is great entertainment. As a Utah fan I looked forward to the BYU game 5 or 10 years ago. However, its not even in my top 5 this year. Standord is my top game this year and I dont expect to win it. I just want a close game.

    BYU has scheduled some great games with ND, USC, etc, but a number of those are 2 for 1's which tells you exactly where BYU ranks. Utah had to settle for those in the past but not anymore which is great as a fan.

    I hope BYU has a good year but I will be wearing RED on the 21st. Go Utes!!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    West Jordan Ute

    "As a Utah fan I looked forward to the BYU game 5 or 10 years ago. However, its not even in my top 5 this year."

    LOL! The fact that you're here, belies your "disinterest" in the BYU game.

    "BYU has scheduled some great games with ND, USC, etc, but a number of those are 2 for 1's which tells you exactly where BYU ranks."

    It tells me that BYU isn't afraid of playing any of the big boys, in fact, BYU is 5-1 all-time versus Texas(3-1) and Oklahoma(2-0). BYU's win Saturday wasn't even close to BYU's largest margin of victory over Texas.

    Call us the next time Texas, Miami, Florida State, Penn State, Notre Dame or any other elite OOC opponent visits RES. The truth is, aside from Michigan, the Utes have never been able to get any big name, OOC opponent to visit that tiny little stadium on the hill.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    @ Swoop

    Because Alabama was a NC contender and a top 5 or top 10 for virtually the entire season. Texas is not. They have a "big" name, but they are not a good team.

    I didn't bring up Colorado, or how close the Bama was, so I don't understand how I was being inconsistent.

    BYU was much better BECAUSE Texas was awful. Those two options aren't exclusive.

    Elite program and elite team are not synonymous. (For example, Utah 41 - Texas A&m 21 in 2004.)

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 8:47 p.m.

    @ Y's little brother

    "aside from Michigan, the Utes have never been able to get any big name, OOC opponent to visit that tiny little stadium on the hill."

    Since 2003 Utah has played Texas A&M, Oregon, Cal, UCLA, UNC, Boise St., Louisville, Oregon St., and Pitt., in RES. Utah has also beaten all of these teams in the same time frame (except Boise).

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 9:34 p.m.

    2fer

    "Since 2003 Utah has played Texas A&M, Oregon, Cal, UCLA, UNC, Boise St., Louisville, Oregon St., and Pitt., in RES."

    None of those teams are elite teams at the same level as USC, Alabama, Florida, Florida St, Miami, LSU, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn St, or Michigan.

    When was the last time any of Utah's OOC RES opponents won a consensus National Championship?

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 13, 2013 11:05 p.m.

    Add Auburn, Tennessee and Nebraska to Marked it Down's list of

    USC, Alabama, Florida, Florida St, Miami, LSU, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn St, and Michigan

    and you have every consensus major college football national champion since 1982, two years before BYU won it's consensus national championship in 1984.

    BYU has played 6 of those elite OOC teams in LES since 1984: Texas(1988 and 2013), Miami(1990), Penn St(1992), Notre Dame(1993 and 2004), USC(2003), and Florida State(2009).

    Alabama was also scheduled to pay a return visit to LES, but the Crimson Tide bought out their contract after BYU almost beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa in 1998, final score 31-38.

  • jbohn Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 14, 2013 1:53 a.m.

    Comparing a win over the 08 Bama and this years Texas is stupid...."You will never dominate a top program the way byu did." That statement is completely subjective and carries about as much weight as beating a top program in a down year. Beating a top program doesnt make it a quality W.

    Bringing up stats to say who dominated more... Stats dont come close to painting the entire picture. Utah played an Alabama team that was a half a quarter away from the ncg, and made it through the SEC regular season undefeated. Not to mention Utah played them in their back yard. Game wasnt nearly as close as the score indicated. Their longest scoring drive was 35 yards. 35. Their lone offensive TD came from a fumble and the other was a punt return TD. All we heard was bout Bamas O-line, and how it was one of the best, if not the best, in the country. They avg'd 200 yards rushing per game, Utah held them to 30. Sacked the quarterback 8 TIMES. Oh and that amazing SEC defense? Bama is lucky Utah was in kill the clock mode for half the game.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Sept. 14, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    Where the games were played or how high the teams were ranked is irrelevant. None of the whiny excuse-making of our friends on the hill will change the fact that BYU's beat down of Texas was SIGNIFICANTLY greater than Utah's win over Alabama.

    The stats speak for themselves, especially BYU's 550 yards rushing, the MOST rushing yards Texas had ever given up in their entire history of over 1,200 games.

    BYU vs Texas 40-21 +19
    1stDwn 32-22 +10
    Rush 550-132 +418
    Pass 129-313 -184
    Total 679-445 +234

    Utah vs Alabama 31-17 +14
    1stDwn 22-15 +7
    Rush 13-31 -18
    Pass 336-177 +159
    Total 349-208 +141

    Utah's "domination" of Alabama pales by comparison to BYU's DOMINATION of Texas.

  • LoveTheKittens The Middle Of, UT
    Sept. 14, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    What happens at 0000 hrs if the game is still going?

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 14, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    What happens at 0000 hrs if the game is still going?

    The game continues - spirit of the law versus letter of the law.