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  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Sept. 4, 2013 6:18 p.m.

    Well then I guess it's a good thing that results in the distant past have absolutely no bearing on the present. When I read this headline I got worried...until I saw that Utah's last loss to a FBS opponent was in 1980. That's 33 years ago, and just two years after Lavell Edwards invented football (according to BYU fans).

    Seriously though, I hate it when sports journalists and talking heads say things like "Team X better look out for Team Y....Team Y has beaten them three of the last four times they've played. Those three times were in 1996, 1988, and 1963." What's that got to do with anything? Most everyone involved in those games has forgotten they were involved or already died...those results have zero impact on the current situation.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 6:38 p.m.

    Losing to lower programs(including our WAC brethren usu an byu) has happened.

    But if you look at the last decade we are quickly establishing ourselves as a cut above these programs and worthy of our PAC 12 membership.

    Such losses are becoming very rare.

    Will we ever lose to a WAC program again?

    Perhaps.

    But I like the current state of ute football(best decade in the state, best recruits, best bowl games, best bowl wins, top 10 seasons)

    I look forward to our continued disassociation from these lower programs.

    We beat them the great majority and they are not considered "good wins"

    Utah will soon be 4-0 and ranked in the top 25 and our brother byu will be 0-3 and usu will be the second best team in a weak WAC conference.

    The futures of Utah and our lower brothers are vastly different.

    Go utes!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 6:40 p.m.

    This weeks games:

    Utah 47
    Weber 10

    Texas 40
    Byu 14

    Usu 27
    Air Force 17

    Congratulations to Utah, Texas, and Air Force!

    Go utes!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 6:43 p.m.

    Will Utah or Texas win by more this weekend?

    Tough call.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Sept. 4, 2013 6:59 p.m.

    Really dnews? Really?

    Just because byu layed a rotten egg last week it's no reason to write a smear piece on Utah...especially whn it's such a reach.

    Desperate times demand desperate actions I guess.

  • UtahBy44 Beaver, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 7:35 p.m.

    Sorensen you've stooped to an all time sports journalistic low.

    Why and What in the World does this article have to do with this weeks football game and the Utes schedule.

    Please tell me its not an enviable streak of Cougar Blue running through your veins.

    My only conclusion can be the bYu loss to the bottom dwellers of the ACC

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    An article entirely about Utah football (as idiotic as the article is), 6 total comments up to this point, all 6 by Ute fans, and all 6 directed toward BYU. Who has the obsession???

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:25 p.m.

    As much chance we lose to weber as there is we lose to byu

    Not happening

  • bpack88 LOGAN, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    Christine B. Hedgefog
    Salt Lake City, UT
    "An article entirely about Utah football (as idiotic as the article is), 6 total comments up to this point, all 6 by Ute fans, and all 6 directed toward BYU. Who has the obsession???"

    People pointing out obvious conflicts of interest is not and obsession.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    Christine B. Hedgefog,
    That's some fine wishful thinking that the world revolves around byu. If you examine the posts more closely, USU, Weber, and Texas are all in the discussion.

    One has to wonder why the Des News would put up an article like this. There has to be a reason...a driver. So, a few theories are proffered. That's all. As you said..."as idiotic as the article is..."

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 4, 2013 9:48 p.m.

    Christine B. Hedgefog

    Excuse my little sister's rant. She's obviously extremely nervous about the possibility of our Utes losing to the lowly Wildcats, especially since Kyle has proven that he's capable of losing to anybody.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:38 p.m.

    We've been hearing and reading about the FCS upsets since Monday morning. It was the first thing that Kyle mentioned at his press conference. The Utes are going into this game with eyes wide open. Pointless article.

    On the subject of byu...lol.

    Go Utes.

  • bshelt SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 4, 2013 10:40 p.m.

    What a ridiculous article. Why is this even brought up? Poor form DNews for even running it. Out of all the storylines you could write about the writer goes negative. I guess misery loves company. If you can't beat your rival then bring them down with your pen.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 7:06 a.m.

    All of the comments above by my fellow Ute fans echo my feelings exactly. Although upsets can happen, I would be shocked if the Utes don't come out and play with a sense of urgency, even against Weber State. We have too much riding on each game this season to take any team lightly. I'm sure Coach Whitt has made that clear to his team.

    Go Utes!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 5, 2013 7:18 a.m.

    I was at the BSU game in 1980; what a sad performance by Utah. I expect a solid victory on Saturday. No way Utah takes Weber St. lightly. Too much to lose.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    I take a different view. I really appreciate the DNews publishing--on the same day--two articles that will be on the locker room bulletin boards of the Utes and Longhorns going into Saturday's games in Salt Lake and Provo.

    I don't think that's what the guiding lights at the DNews intended, but thanks just the same.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    Weber might beat UTAH.
    On any given Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday...
    If Weber wins, it won't be because UTAH overlooked Weber.
    The memory of a 5 and 7 season will help keep any team from overlooking/under-estimating anyone.
    GO UTES

  • aggfan77 Shire, 00
    Sept. 5, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    Ute is NOT even coming close to losing this game. Besides Chris B. bashing on USU. The Aggies in my mind could very easily be ranked this year! And the U for the first game looked very solid!

    Utes win by 4 + TD's
    BYU Losses by 2 to 3 + TD's
    Aggies win by 2 + TD's ( I hope )

    Go Aggies!
    Go Utes!

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 5, 2013 1:28 p.m.

    Translation: since utah is uncompetitive in the Pac-12, they need to load up on FCS teams to pad Whittingham's record and Hill's credibility.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 2:18 p.m.

    Ha ha on hateful jealous little rant. Whit has no better record padding and Dr. Hill has no credibility like they do in happy valley.

  • papi_chulo Ogden, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    For Chris B (the almighty who knows everything about everything)

    This weeks scores:

    Weber 31
    Utah 28

    Utah St. 24
    Air Force 21

    BYU 30
    Texas 28

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    @ EdGrady

    "Translation: since utah is uncompetitive in the Pac-12, they need to load up on FCS teams to pad Whittingham's record and Hill's credibility"

    So your definition of "loading up" is playing one FCS team a year. Ok that makes a lot of sense (sarcasm). By that same logic, isn't BYU "loading up" with an FCS team because they're playing Idaho State in November? That can only mean that BYU is not very competitive as an Independent and they need an FCS team to pad Bronco's record and Holmoe's credibility and reputation.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    Chris B also said the Utes would easily stomp all over the Aggies, too. And look what happened there. It took a trick play and exceptional kicking to barely pull it out while the Aggies had more first downs, time of possession and yardage. Hardly a dominant performance by Utah.

    Chris B "likes the current state of Ute football"... even though in the Utes most recent season they are the only division 1 school in Utah to not qualify for a bowl game and the only one with a losing record. LOL.

    He also states they are worth of their lofty PAC12 membership. Yes, they are... if worthy means always finishing in the bottom tier of the conference and never yet having a winning record in it. Hopefully, they won't be the perennial cellar dweller again this season.

    It's very possible this Weber game will be the last Ute win in awhile. Conference play is not going to be pretty. Mark it down, Chris. And keep those rose (crimson) colored glassed fastened on tight. It makes your posts here very entertaining.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    @EdGrady:
    I didn't know having one FCS school on your schedule was loading up. What do you call BYU's schedule then?

  • u25 West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 3:29 p.m.

    Why does the deseret news make the titles to many of their Utah articles so negative. If you look back at the articles written about Utah, many have negative conotations. You never see a negative article about USU and very rareley about the y, and quite often often for Utah.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    Ed,
    Didnt BYU play Weber last year?
    Translation: Since BYU cant beat Utah, I must come up with something asinine to post.

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    So call me crazy but I don't see where the BYU fans get off on their predictions. There seems to be little logical basis for them considering that BYU stank hard core last week, their line is as bad as last year, and their QB is an inexperienced Sophomore that has to deal with a terrible o line. I would like some enlightenment.

  • jeru0455 SALEM, OR
    Sept. 5, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    BYU plays an FCS team every year too, often in November, when you're supposed to be the heat of real games. They even have one next year when they play EIGHT mid-major teams. Seriously eight?! That's how many they would have played in the MWC. They should have just stayed there.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    Orion:
    The only BYU fans making outrageous predictions at this point are the BYU versions of ChrisB. While his chest thumping and delusional season predictions (after a narrow escape against a "WAC 2.0" team he dissed alll last week) are certainly good for a laugh, no one takes them seriously. I would suggest you react to BYU fans with his personality the same way. Have a good laugh, give little credence and move on with your life.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 5, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    Christine B. Hedgefog

    "An article entirely about Utah football...Who has the obsession???"

    Well, by your very post you answered your own question!

    Too easy!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Sept. 5, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    Tators!

    I didn't think you would show up again after last week! After the total smack down byU will get this weekend from an actual team, maybe you'll take a few more days off?

    Thanks for coming by, though. We miss you and your total support for our team!!

    Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 7:05 p.m.

    Tators = Never in doubt, and never correct.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 5, 2013 9:22 p.m.

    @Christy B

    Excuse my little sister's rant. She's obviously extremely nervous about the possibility of our Utes losing to the lowly Wildcats, especially since Kyle has proven that he's capable of losing to anybody.

    -------------

    What do you mean by "our Utes". When did you jump on our bandwagon? When you stopped blaming the rain?

    Bronco has proven he's not capable of beating anyone since he has a losing record against BCS teams.

    Good luck against Texas. Thankfully you have 2 weeks to prepare for Utah.

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    Sept. 5, 2013 9:50 p.m.

    Uteology

    Kyle hasn't beaten a single AP Top 25 since the 2008 season, but has lost to TWO 10-loss teams in the last 6 seasons.

    Bronco has beaten TWO AP Top 25 teams since the 2008 season, but has never lost to a 10-loss team.

    When it comes to proving that you can't beat anybody, but also proving that you can lose to anybody, Kyle is the clear winner, er, loser.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 10:37 a.m.

    @ VegasUte:

    Why wouldn't I show up this week? BYU overall outplayed Virginia with significantly more yardage, more first downs and more time of possession. Nothing to be ashamed of. We lost the game on one unfortunate play... kind of like the way Utah won their game... on one fortunate play... even though the Aggies overall outplayed them. It's a real eye-roller to read how many Ute trolls contend how Utah and Virginia dominated those games. (And here I thought that smoken that stuff was only legal in Washington.)
    Unlike your Utes (and sometimes even my Cougars), I'll be showing up each and every week... just building to the crescendo that will be happening on the 21st of this month. Then I'm quite certain you and a few fellow trolls will be taking some time off... after giving a few genuinely entertaining excuses.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 6, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    @Marked it Down

    Kyle hasn't beaten a single AP Top 25 since the 2008 season, but has lost to TWO 10-loss teams in the last 6 seasons.

    -------------

    Since 2008 season? 6 seasons? That would be 2007 season. You are all over the place trying to prove an inept opinion.

    Oh wait, I see what your trying to do.

    * You want to use 2007 so you can count Utah losses at 2-10 UNLV in 2007 and then Colorado in 2011.

    * But then you want to count AP wins from 2009 because if you use 2007 you would have to count 4 AP wins for Kyle: #6, #7, #18, #25.

    That's pretty slick!

    Go Rain!!

  • Clark W. Griswold Sandy, Utah
    Sept. 6, 2013 11:49 a.m.

    @ Marked it Down

    "Kyle hasn't beaten a single AP Top 25 since the 2008 season"

    That's not true! Utah beat TWO AP top 25 teams since 2008 (#15 Pittsburgh in 2010, #25 BYU in 2012).

    "but has lost to TWO 10-loss teams in the last 6 seasons"

    Too bad those losses are in the distant past! BYU is coming off a fresh loss to Virginia the bottom dweller of the ACC.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    For papi chulo:

    To your credit, you picked the USU game about right, although they'll score more than 24 points.

    As for your other predictions: time to wake up, cuz that's some major wishful thinking! GO UTES

  • DaveKnowsWhatsUp Bloomington, IN
    Sept. 6, 2013 12:58 p.m.

    Christine, it's always like this, even though they'll try and state that it's not. Unfortunately the posts on these boards consistently prove otherwise. It's kinda funny actually...in a sad sort of way. The only thing that brings me to this side of the boards is I get tired of all the grandstanding from these guys on the BYU side of things that it makes me curious to see if they are as obsessed with BYU on their own articles...they are.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 1:20 p.m.

    The fact that any of you posted on this article after an 0-1 start to the 12th ranked ACC team (translation: they're basically dead last), further proves my point: we don't want to hear about you beating Virginia on paper. The reality is, YbU is 0-1, on their way to 0-2, and sources strongly suggest that they will be well on their way to 0-3 come Sept. 21st! National Championship vision that Bishop Mendenhall had pre-season? Poof! Go Utes!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    Uteology

    "Kyle hasn't beaten a single AP Top 25 since the 2008 season, but has lost to TWO 10-loss teams in the last 6 seasons."

    The statement is absolutely true; who said that the time-frame for each part of the statement had to be the same?

    Bronco has beaten TWO AP Top 25 teams since the 2008 season:
    #18/#18 Utah in 2009 and #16/#17 Utah State in 2012

    Utah hasn't beaten ANY AP Top 25 teams since the 2008 season:
    BYU finished #26 in the final AP poll in 2011, Pittsburgh didn't receive a single vote in the final AP poll in 2010

    Bronco has NEVER lost to a 10-loss team.
    Kyle has lost to TWO 10-loss teams:
    2007 UNLV(2-10) 0-27 and 2011 Colorado(3-10)

    Utah barely beat 11-loss Colorado 42-35 in 2012.

    To put that in perspective, BYU has only lost to TWO 10-loss teams in their entire football history. Kyle has lost to that many in the last SIX years.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Sept. 6, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    Samurai Jake

    Who made you blog monitor?

    BYU lost to a "power conference" team on a bobbled pass in the rain.

    Who have U played?

    btw, Utah's chances of ever winning a national championship went poof the moment the Utes accepted their invitation to the PAC. The Utes will NEVER have an undefeated season in the PAC, which is what it will take for the Utes, a team with absolutely ZERO national cachet, to get an invite to the playoffs.

  • Samurai Jake Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 6:08 p.m.

    PAC Man

    Answer to your first question: Chris B.

    BYU lost for many more reasons than the single one you listed, which will become glaringly apparent as the season continues.

    We've played plenty, I have no interest in regurgitating facts from the past. If you're referencing this season, then remember that we are heading into the second week! Lol

    The PAC12 is a tough venue, to be sure. But claiming the Utes have "ZERO national cachet" is purely your opinion, and that's it.

    Your last statement is incorrect, considering the Utes will definitely earn a playoff invite by conference affiliation alone. They will indeed put together a season worthy of it. All in good time! Go Utes!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Sept. 6, 2013 10:14 p.m.

    Claiming that "the Utes will definitely earn a playoff invite by conference affiliation alone" is simply your opinion. You have absolutely no proof that a one-loss Utah team wouldn't be shut out of the playoffs by four undefeated or one-loss teams from the SEC, B1G, Big 12 and ACC.

    The Utes only won SIX conference championships in the last 55 years (about one per decade). What makes you think the Utes will do any better in the PAC, a supposedly much better conference than the WAC/MWC?

    Nothing "claiming" about it; the Utes have ZERO national cachet; in fact, they're practically invisible in their own conference. After a couple of honeymoon seasons where other PAC members gave the news kids on the hill the benefit of the doubt, the PAC has accepted the Utes for the PAC whipping boys that they are.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Sept. 6, 2013 11:48 p.m.

    @ SportsFan

    "After a couple of honeymoon seasons where other PAC members gave the news kids on the hill the benefit of the doubt, the PAC has accepted the Utes for the PAC whipping boys that they are"

    And BYU is still Utah's whipping boy!

    Gotta love these desperate Cougie fans who talk smack when their team hasn't beaten us since 2009.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Sept. 7, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    So Utah is the new Florida or Ohio State? "Oh, our conference is too tough, so we need to play lower teams to make us feel better." Please. Toughen and man up like teams such as LSU and Oregon who often play really tough teams OOC and are proud of it, not backing down like little babies. I laugh everyday at these articles saying Utah's schedule is just too tough. You got what you wanted, deal with it and act like men and play the game, don't try to duck out like a whimpy kid. So glad I'm not a fan of Utah. Embarrassing to say the least.

    Hey, UNLV is always available for an easy win, right?