Fall Fast, Fall Hard
It's not Anae's fault that a wide open receiver can't catch the
ball. Perfectly thrown pass too.
@BYU NATIONActually it is. Williams isn't a receiver and
doesn't have the hands to grab a ball that he has to struggle to reach.
That why he's a running back.BYU was ahead. Anae should have
called a "safe" play and run the ball and then punted on fourth down or
gotten the first down on the ground. Especially with the pass completion record
that Hill had racked up to that point.It was an ugly game all
around. But, that play, that call from Anae, sunk the ship.
I don't care whose fault it is, the season is over for this fan. BYU
needed to run the table this season, get the BCS title game and beat Alabama (or
whomever got there with them). And in going undefeated during the season BYU
needed to be a wide open, high scoring aerial circus with a solid running game
and be an offensive threat. Instead, same conservative stuff. YAWN! Defense
did well though.
looked just like the 2012 season, defense plays hard and does what it needs to
do to keep the game close and the offense comes out and drives the train off the
cliff. I hate to be pessimistic, but my beloved Cougs could very
well start out 0-3 this year unless this offense figures things out. Not just
Hill's fault, plenty of blame to go around here. Missed passes, dropped
passes, penalties, missed blocking assignments, and the list goes on and on.A little help from special teams wouldn't hurt too. No more
blocked punts and penalties ok?Stay strong, gotta show up and play
Texas with some heart next week, even if you do lose. Go Cougs.
That was so funny!The defense was handling them fine. Only byu is capable of finding a way to lose that game!Lol!If you can't beat Virginia, who will you beat?Utah will
make byu 0-3. Lol!Week one was perfect!
Appears as though nothing has changed with Anae's offense :(Go
Too many excuses in this article. They were beat plain and simple. Now move on.
Not even I thought byu would lose!I guess I overestimated this
team!And I knew you were terrible. Lol
Who makes that call? Nobody!,,
Where was the offensive line? How can 4 defensive lineman beat 5 to 6 blockers?
Dick slammed Anae hard and he deserves it. Anae just gave away a win and a
season. Now, I hope he will bounce back next game, but he deserves all the
I don't know enough about football to question any call, but from a human
interest point of view, Ammon Olsen deserves a start against Texas. That is
meant to take nothing away from Hill but Olsen deserves a chance.
"I don't care whose fault it is, the season is over for this
fan."I don't think you quite get the meaning of the word
"fan." A fan doesn't bail on his team after one shaky game and
tough loss. Or even a tough, shaky season if it comes to that. A fan is
disappointed and possibly upset after a loss, but if your only motivation for
watching and supporting a team is that they might win a national title,
relatively few fans would have any reason to watch any schools play. How many
teams have a legit shot at the title this year? 15, at most? BYU really
didn't. Utah certainly doesn't.Find another hobby.
Taysom Hill looks like the next coming of ....uh ... uh... Riley Nelson.Duckhunter, where are you? I need an explanation for this loss. How
can Anae's offense look so inept?
Gotta to hand it to Anea- he's taking the blame for the loss.Actually, it wasn't that one call that did it. There were so many
mistakes by the offense, coupled with "special" team miscues, that
it's amazing the Cougs kept the score so close.UVA was a
younger team, the QB hadn't played as recently as had Hill, etc., and the
game looked a lot like the Texas loss a couple of years ago.Too much
Well said, Dick Harmon. Lets give a little credit to the boss too though..:I listened to Bronco on Wrubell's show from the press box earlier
in the week, and he was acting like he had the greatest team in football.
Smacking about how camp is too long, and how he could get the work done in far
less time. The work wasn't and isn't done. This team sputtered all
night. They looked so rusty and sloppy, it's a miracle they ever had a shot
in this one. Yet another squandered opportunity on the road for Mendenhall. He
almost never wins the important ones. And make no mistake - this may be a bad
Virginia team, but this was a critical win.The worst part for me is
reconciling the fact that the mediocre Utah team I watched the other night is
going to beat us on their way to their worst season in years. I hate losing to
Utah--especially in years when they aren't good.
SlopJ30 -- you are of course correct. But I had been having fun trash talking
about going undefeated and getting a shot at the high and mighty SEC. That was
dreaming... but more fun to be undefeated going into November with shots
against Wisconsin and Boise State if they were ranked high... the fun fan
debates about who plays who, SOS and deserving that BCS shot. That is all off
the table now after just one game, timidly attempted by a disappointingly
I'm glad Anae owned up to his mistake. It was clearly his. A man admits
his mistakes and learns from them. Thanks coach. You are a true man. It was
forgotten to mention that the ball was wet, the turf was wet, the running game
was the main success on offense, and Taysom Hill had a poor passing game. It
was simply a human error and 20-20 hindsight points at Anae. had the pass been
completed and the first down obtained, he would have been touted as a hero who
preserved the win and made a gutsy call. My expectations are
lowered for Texas. But I can hope that the Cougars come with the fire they
lacked today. They CAN win. Bring it all to the field and leave it there.
Be careful, Anae. If you volunteer that the loss was your fault, Bronco just
may believe it, and you may find yourself being driven out of Provo for the
Wasn't there a game against Georgia years ago when BYU got greedy and tried
a touchdown pass to pad their lead and it was intercepted and Georgia ran it 100
yards for a game-winning touchdown? Anyone remember that? Was it Detmer who
threw that? My memory is fuzzy and may be wrong. Please enlighten us.
Another Anae era starts with a disaster. Bad play calling all day. He should
stay a line coach. He's good at that. He is not a OC!
As I remember it, when Anae left BYU fans had been relentless in their criticism
of his overly conservative play calling. He was characterized as an extremely
boring offensive coordinator, never taking appropriate risks. Now Harmon is
bashing him for not being conservative enough. I bet that seat facing your
keyboard is nice and comfy, nothing like the hot seat you'd like to create
for Anae. Pretty easy knowing the right plays to call after the game, Mr Harmon.
Come on people. Seriously!! Now we're going to hear about how Ammon Olsen
is the guy. The pattern continues. I'm a Ute fan first, Aggie fan also,
but even I am smart enough to not throw the season away yet. I read last year
about how it was Riley Nelson's fault, and how Taysom Hill was going to
save the day. Now Ammon Olsen? Give me a break. Just get behind your team and
quit being the "overly critical" fans that you are. I'm going to
give them a break, and wait a bit longer to judge. It's embarassing a
church owned school is so heavily judged and criticized by its fans, who are
mostly LDS. I feel bad for you. Quit judging so soon, and support your team.
They want to win. Practice what your church preaches.
I don't agree that the call was bad. (SLC Nation is right.) A first down
likely salts the game away. Keep in mind that UVA would have been in 4 down
mode when they got the ball back.The throw was a bit high, but I;m sure
that Williams would tell you he should have caught the ball. Execution (or lack
thereof) was to blame. And how about Sorensen's hold on the kick return?
But the biggest blown play was the drop by Thompson on 3rd and 10 at midfield on
BYU's last real possession. That was an easy reception and big first
down.Anae's play calling left something to be desired, but more for
the constant up-the-middle handoffs that went nowhere, not for a simple pass in
the flat that should have been a first down.
Chris B., As a UTE fan, you sure spend a lot of time on the BYU comment boards.
Maybe as a fan, you should spend a little more time supporting your team rather
than paying attention to what is going on over here. Thanks for the attention,
but your guys can use your support a little more.
Wookie, "They were beat plain and simple..." What? Did you see the
game? BYU held VA to 230 yards of offense. VA scored two touchdowns, both of
which were on drives of 10 and 13 yards, one after a blocked punt and another
after the well talked about 3rd down pass play that should have been a run. 2
pts came from a bad snap by BYU and the 3pts came with under a minute remaining
in the 1st half while BYU was playing the well known "prevent" defense
so as to not allow the long play, but giving up many 10 to 15 yard plays
instead. VA did not have a sustained drive all game long, yet BYU's
offense and special teams handed them points. This doesn't sound like they
were beaten, this sounds like they beat themselves. Yes, BYU lost, and it was
ugly, but they were certainly not beaten.
Taysom struggled to hit open targets, over throwing mostThe line is
still a messAnae is like a broken record with his play calling.
Still. I called run or pass correctly over 90% of the time. Too many 2nd and
longs which mostly turned into third and long. How about a screen or two to
give the defense a reason not to bring the house every other play?Hadley should have caught his would be interception.On a pass Hill
actually threw in the vacinity, Jamaal should have caught it for a first down,
instead it's intercepted. It was high but not a crazy reach whatsoever. Ran
before completing the catch.Another pass Hill got close to the
target, Brett Thompson should have caught on third down for a first down.Defense got hosed again with the only two touchdowns scored on them
being shorter than 20 yard fields.Should have, should have, should
have. But didn't.Virginia made plays when they had to, BYU
Netwidt has is right. Cougar fans, supported by Mr. Harmon's article want
to be able to argue both sides of the Anae debate, which ever side is convenient
at the time. It's time to be a fan, afterall it's only the first
game.As a Ute fan, despite all the reasons (excuses) given for the
loss, weather, play calling, officials, inexperience, time zones, etc, (and
I'll also throw in a couple, lack of position mastery and performance at a
higher level), one word comes to mind after watching last nights game,
TRADITION!!! (Should have left it on the uniforms)Go Utes
@netwidtI am sure no one would have complained about anae running
out as much of the clock at the end of the game.There are times like
when it is MORE than appropriate to play conservatively. They could have just
kneed the ball on 3rd and punted on 4th and I would have been happy.
The problem with BYU and BYU fans in general is they are all stuck in the mid
80’s mind set. The Football world has greatly changed since then. No
longer can BYU get by with great young men with average talent.BYU
domed their program when they left the MWC. BYU further hurt their program by
not begging the Big-12 to take them in the league. Yes, the ESPN thing was a
good money grab but at what cost? With no conference title to fight for, their
season ends with their first loss, as it has this season. BYU is an average
mid-major team. That is reality. Get use to it and deal with it.I
have watched the play several times. The assumption all of you are making is a
run and punt would easily salt away a win. This is pure speculation at best. The
play would have, should have worked. The pass was a little high but very
catchable. Additionally, what kind of D stand was that as the runner bounced his
way into the end zone? Quit believing the hype coming out of fall camp. You are
what you are
It's really sad when the offense is so bad that the OC must punt and rely
on the defense, but that clearly is the situation BYU is in--even against a very
weak Virginia team. Yes, Anae, Hill, and Williams blew the play and the game.
I hope the offense can get better and if it doesn't I hope that they will
do everything possible to let the defense win.
At least Anae doesn't argue with reality like Mendenhall. I'm glad he
is recognizing a poor decision (he should have had very little confidence in the
passing game) and not loudly shouting he would do the same thing in any similar
situation. At least that gives us some hope. Sports writers have given this
Texas Cougar fan false hopes about this offense. I still wonder if there is any
chance that Olsen could give a spark to the offense. It's sad when one
player, Hoffman, can't play that the offense would be so terrible. But
just like last year, on many plays if the offensive line had just fallen to the
ground after the snap they would have been just as effective. For all practical
purposes the offense gave up 16 points and scored 16 points.
Once again the examples of incredible preparation, unmatched devotion, some of
the most highly touted recruits in the nation and coaching staff without peer
have shown and given us cause to reflect and hope that "there's always
next year". Thanks Robert.
Guy Holliday - fail with all the drops.Robert Anae - fail with only 16
points and the most third down situations in the Bronco era.Mark Atuaia -
fail with Williams carrying the ball 33 times - too many - he's going to
get hurt.Garrett Tujague - fail with no pass protection and no running
game until the 4th quarter.
After watching the crazy game, I watched Washington destroy and I mean destroy
Boise State. UW too has moved to the go fast offense, throwing out a lot of last
year's offense. UW's defense is much better than last year but not as
good as BYU's. The difference was quarterback. Price was priceless.But he's a senior now (I think) and Hill is a Sophomore. Basically,
UW didn't change their offense of last year, they just trimmed it down. BYU
is learning a completely new offense. But I'm concerned about Hill's
poor passing. Boise and UW both has great passing. Robert may have to consider
Olsen at some point.This season is not over, there are plenty of
games to win. Tough loss, but they will rebound. Bronco has had some tough first
game losses and pulled out very good seasons. We'll see what happens, but
it is unrealistic to think BYU will get through this season with less than four
@Ducky, mind games, sammy G, wer, cougiefaninTX, my two dads, tom in CA,
etc.....LOL!!I've posted this a few times and of course it
still holds true.Jan - August....All cougie fans preach how great
the cougies are how they should go undefeated, to a BCS bowl, etc. Sept/October- Cougie fans dissapear after early losses because they are so
embarrased of all the talk of nat titles, BCS games, going undefeated, how much
better they are than Utah, etc. Nov/December- After the highschool
schedule kicks in and they get a few wins in a row the talk builds back up to
how the mighty cougars are the greatest team in the country even though they
lose games on the feild where it matters....LOL!Go fast go hard and
go home with an L....LOL
I'm not ready to give up at all. I believe it will get better.Anae -
16 points, the most 3rd downs in a game in the Bronco era - fail.Tujague -
No pass protection and no running game until the fourth quarter - fail.Holliday - Several dropped passes. Reminds me of pre-Cahoon - fail.Atuaia - Too many carries for Williams, he's going to get hurt. Where
are the other guys - fail.
Return to the standard offence. Lose the "hurry up". The hurry up has
it's own time and place during a game, not the entire game. After 144 years
of American football, one would think that if the full time hurry up is so
great, it would be used extensively by now.
Time to find a legitimate offensive coordinator. Anae should NEVER have been
rehired. The QB position continues to be average. Hill is OK but not even close
to being on par with the past greats. This offense is stagnant, boring and
predictable. BYU will end 50/50 this season and will NOT be going to a bowl
game. This should have been a W.
Wow! It's the first game of the season, folks. I will agree, BYU made big
mistakes that gave the game to Virginia. Give Virginia credit, however, for
taking advantage of those situations. BYU, however, did not capitalize on the
turnover margin advantage. Let's put this game in the past and
focus on next week. The sign of a strong team is to look at their mistakes and
adjust for the next game. I hope BYU has what it takes to be a strong team.
Virginia may also be a better team than we gave them credit. I can see BYU
starting out 2-1 for the first three games of the season. Utah, to tell you the
truth, also has a lot of problems to work out in their game. We'll see,
however, how that turns out when the game is played.
Ute fans better be careful. This defense is still amazing and it looks like we
have a decent kicker. I would at least hold off on the trash talking until you
actually beat us.I'm still optimistic, even though we threw
that one away.
13 for 40 in passing for Taysom Hill? They should have given the ball to QB
Ammon Olsen. If BYU wants to pass this year, they should switch QBs now to
Olsen. I heard Olsen has a better arm.
Anae offense is no different than when he was at BYU the first time and it is
not much different than what Doman tried to do last year. I still can't
understand why the offensive coordinator is not up in the press box like all the
other OC's in the nation.When it is 3rd down an 7 or 8 yards to go,
everyone in the stadium knows you are going to pass for a first down and you
know that they are going to rush the QB with everyone. Why don't they have
a play action pass play to at least hold the defensive just a little so a play
can be made. Also, early in the first quarter we were 2nd down and 1 yard to go
and threw two passes rather than pick up the first down with a running play.
Fans, it is going to be a long year for the Cougars again this year with the out
dated offensive that has not changed. If you want to see what a college offense
should look like, you should have watched Washington play. Talk about up
tempo!!!They know how to run a fast and hard offensive.
Go Hard Punt Fast
One of the worst losses in a long time. Virginia is a bad, young, one
dimentional team and they played BYU better than even. Why? 1. BYU does not
have the athletes on the Oline to play the hurry up offense. They had to go to
their two minute pro offense at the end. 2. Hill has a lot more work to do
before he will be an average QB. He throws off his wrong foot when he is moving
and down field accuracy is not a threat. 3. BYU's defense is several
notches below last year. While the linebackers are good they gave up a lot of
rushing yards to a team that had little else and the line is significantly
weaker. A passing team will rip the dbacks also.4. BYU's coaching staff
was very slow as usual to react and change game plans. They had two half times
to do it with the weather delay and made no adjustments. These guys are in real
trouble with the schedule they have this year.
Anae: "I'm really excited and pleased with the way our QB played."
Hill completes 13 of 40 passes. What am I missing here? Poor coaching decisions
and the inability to make plays in the clutch continue to plague this team. More
specifically, the mistakes they make are huge and game changing. I would prefer
fewer slogans and more results, but if a slogan is required how about play
Fire Anae Now. Seriously, it's never going to work. Didn't before,
and this leopard's spot haven't changed.
can't people remember what a disaster he was the first go round? remember
the definition of insanity
All Harmon did was explain how the "better" team beat themselves and
gave the game away. You byu people and your excuses! It's unbelievable!
What's up with all the loser Ute fans coming here to taunt? Idjits.Anyway, it would have been nice for a win, and it's clear that Hill
and the offense are not world-beaters, but I don't see this as all doom and
gloom. Home for for Virginia, and it took some very wet weather that led to a
couple of turnovers to give them the victory. I think the bigger story is that
the defense couldn't stop Virginia on that last drive. So: A) the offense
isn't as good as we would have hoped, but I think they'll get get
better as the season progresses; and B) the defense looks good, not great like
last year.... We'll see how that goes.
Well, Bob. You just put crisco on the soles of your shoes & took a voluntary
1st step down a slippery slope.
@2bcswins"All cougie fans preach how great the cougies are how they
should go undefeated, to a BCS bowl, etc. ""All"?
Really? Hyperbole, straw man and downright dishonesty. Cite me even one cougar
fan making such a statement, let alone "all." And Mildred and Ernest
don't count.You could make an argument either way about that
call by Anae. There were so many mistakes by both the players and coaches this
game that it is really difficult to make that call to pass on 3rd down, the
critical one. It was the myriad of predictable calls and weak offensive line
(especially left tackle) that was the key to this loss. I honestly thought there
was no way that our defense would allow Virginia to score a TD after the
turnover, but yet it only took one play. Who's to say that Virginia after a
punt wouldn't have marched right down the field (with Unga out) and scored
anyway.Hill was really off mark but I think that was mostly an
aberration. There were just too many other factors. It is certainly NOT cause to
replace him yet.
If If's, and's, and but's were candy and nuts, we all would have
a Merry Christmas! Let's look at the potential of the offense instead of
the negative. I think we all saw what the offense can do with a 92 yard drive
capped with a touchdown in the 4th quarter. I see some big things happening
with the football team this year. The team made some mistakes, and they are
also running a brand new offense this year. BYU is going to get better, and we
have some wonderful talent to improve on. It is tough to see my team lose and
it hurts, but we move on and hope for the best. I would have liked to see the
cougs win this first game, but they didn't. So we look to play Texas. If
BYU can move the ball like they did on that 92 yard drive we will beat Texas
hands down. Greatness doesn't happen overnight, just ask MJ! I love our
defense, those guys are amazing and they are fun to watch. If everyone on the
football team gets working on all cylinders we will have an awesome year. Go
13 of 40... Somewhere Riley Nelson is probably still smiling. It seems like last
season, all I heard from Y fans, was how much better their team would be if Hill
was the starter. Ouch, a tough dose of reality on Saturday? Anae shouldn't
baby Hill, Hill made the bad pass that was intercepted. Anae has bigger
problems, most of their whole offense was Williams, 33 carries. To score more
than 16 points, they'll need more variety. Did Hoffman play? It looks like
this season will be similar to last season.
Anae's calling the same play over and over and over again on the same down
situation is NOT going to win over the hearts of Cougar fans. "Go hard and go fast" will work, but you have to mix up the plays and
you have to block. The rushing yards gained in this game were essentially
obtained by the merits of the runner, with little to no help from the offensive
line.Was there any substitution going on at all on the O-line?
BYU gave up 220 total yards on defense, and 109 in rushing. I would say that is
a great effort when they are always on the filed due to offensive problems, and
in the middle of a thunderstorm.
Come on guys grow up; football is like life. Pick up a go on. There is no
established offensive philosophy. Stick with one whether we win or lose. Fast
and Hard or Pro Set etc. I think the players have a good attitude in trying to
embrace a non established and set in stone offensive philosophy. What do I
know. Enjoy the hot dogs and popcorn all season long.
Anae made a gutsy call based on what should be available. It didn't
work.Anae made a call that had it worked gets the first down and no
chance for Virginia to likely touch the ball the rest of the game. The defense
should expect a run and the pass play certainly was there as expected. Its a
shame Williams couldn't hold on to it or at least kept the ball from going
behind him or that Hill swung the ball at his numbers. Bad things happen in the
rain. I was very critical of Anae during his last stint in Provo.
He wouldn't attempt field goals against ranked teams when it appeared to me
that the risk of being stopped on fourth down and getting nothing exceeded the
value of momentum that getting three points would bring. He was WAY too
conservative back then. Even though the play in question resulted in a turnover
the call was the correct one considering how the punter had been doing.BYU should learn from this loss. Next couple of games are here in Provo.
Those are both winable games if the Cougars don't second guess themselves.
Shabba- I'm thinking the U will go in to Provo 3-0, and full of confidence,
The Y will be 0-2, and full of doom. Normally, that would make me as a fan feel
confident. But nothing will bounce you back to reality like a rival, so I think
the game will be closer than it should be, considering all I've heard about
how Hill is so much better as a QB, and KVN is the best LB in the state, if not
nation, I would be careful as a Y fan trashtalking until U actually beat us! It
goes both ways, each side has it's you know whats, and I prefer to let the
talking be done on the field and scoreboard.
Isitsnowinginspace,The defense couldn't stop Virginia on the
last TD because the defender in position had just been tackled from behind by an
offensive lineman creating the hole. Had the weather been better the refs may
have caught that one. I am not worried about the defense. I am much more
concerned with the O-line learning how to push long enough to spring the running
backs. That was missing most of the game.I am sure BYU is looking
forward to the ranked Longhorns coming to town. Texas had some problems in the
first half with NMSU defense though they turned it into the expected rout the
second half. BYU being a better defense than NMSU is an understatement. It
will also be entertaining to see how long the Texan linemen will be able to go
fast at altitude. Cody Hoffman hopefully will have a big game after
sitting out the Virginia one. He would have made the difference.
Football is played and won at the line of scrimmage. The line play must improve
or it's a long season for Byu. Changing QB is not the answer. How can they
be effective if they can't be protected.
Derecha, it may prove worthwhile to stop making excuses. The Y was beat, they
lost, and now it's time to move on. Beat themselves? I don't care,
it's time to get to work and right the wrongs. Go UTES!!
You all realize that this was a pretty good opponent to open up against, right?
It's not a 4-8 team from the WAC, Virginia has a challenging schedule.
Next weeks game vs Texas is going to be a challenge, but a lot of improvement
usually happens between week 1 and week 2. Plus, the Cougars then have 2 weeks
to prepare against the Utes. That is probably a 50/50 game anyways and to have
the extra prep time is a huge benefit. So… the season is a long way from
being done. And it wasn't all Anae. You needed to get that first down.
If the WR/RB catches the ball rather than let it slip through his hands, game
over. I hope Taysom (who clearly has room for improvement) doesn't feel to
bad about putting the ball in the receivers hands. Oh, and D - how able hold
the opponent to a FG when put in a bad position. Both times you gave up 7 when
a defensive hold to just 3 would have won the game. The D is clearly the better
aspect of the team right now, but a great D needs to make that hold. Just
Steve Jarvis.....Texas scored 56 points and New Mexico scored 7....I'm sure
they could have made the score higher if they wanted to. BYU has NO chance
When get only 16 points out of 90 plays and 300 yards of offense, you have more
to worry about than one play call. "Go fast, go hard" needs to go
somewhere other than between the thirty yard lines.
"@Ducky, mind games, sammy G, wer, cougiefaninTX, my two dads, tom in CA,
etc.....LOL!!I've posted this a few times and of course it
still holds true..."Is there any need for an explanation to
2BCSWins comment?(crickets)Didn't think so. LOLThis weekend's game has only proven that more work is needed.
I'm confident that improvement will come.Looking forward to
next week's game.
That call may not have been the right one, but let's put the blame on the
shoulders of the guy who went 13 of 40.
Head coaches are supposed to make critical calls. It seems Bronco wants nothing
to do with the offense, but he should have made the call on 3rd down that cost
BYU the game. Any arm chair QB knows you should keep it on the ground. The
defense was playing great, the field conditions were horrible. Keep it on the
ground when you're ahead and there's not much time left. I learned
that in 8th grade.
I don't blame Anae. Had the players simply executed on a basic play, BYU
could have run out the clock. Next week will be much better!
It just hit me!! Duuuuhhhh!Go Fast=Firing Anae a 2nd time; after
just one game.Go Hard=No severance."Who would have
thought BYU would run "21 dive" all night...
I think if BYU ran for a first down or ended up punting minus another special
teams blunder, Virginia would have had very little chance of winning. BYU's
defense had owned them and with a 4 point lead, Virginia would have had to have
gone the length of the field for a TD as a FG would have done them no good down
four. Coaching decisions have really hurt BYU the last twop years (i.e. Boise
State ect..)Hoffman being hurt is devastating to BYU. Hamstrings can
linger and be reaggravated. White IV being hurt was a huge negative for Utah
last year. With a game manager QB, White IV was Utah's bread and butter.
The only team befuddled by the new BYU hurry-up offense was BYU.
CCPederson has a point. Virginia's offense is not a threat. But with a
punt, and needing a TD, they would "have been in 4 down mode" with an
extra down to move the ball. That said, I think they had one timeout left and
there offense is not a big strike offense. BYU's defense should be the
focal point philosophically for BYU's coaches even with the OC (Anae) and
his play calling considerations.
The offense was the same bungling batch of ineptitude it has been for the last 3
years. The defense was stellar, virginia did not sustain one single drive on
them the entire game. Instead offensive idiocy and special teams ineptitude cost
them a game.Will this never change?
@MountainflyingTexas didn't score till late in the second
quarter against New Mexico State at home. Texas eventually got things going and
ran up the score and apparently that is all you saw.I can't
wait for the Texas game. I hope THEY think BYU is as bad as the Utah fans on
here do because that Virginia game was as bizarre as football can get. The
altitude, fast pace, Hoffman and home crowd should be factors to get a Cougar
All of BYU's problems come back to the ineffective O-line. They
couldn't keep the defensive front four out of the backfield, nor could they
create holes on running plays on a consistent basis. Unless something changes,
BYU is in for a long season. Utah's main problem last year was offensive
line play and we Ute fans know too well how last season went. Utah's O-line
looks a little better against USU, but we will see. BYU picked the wrong season,
schedule-wise, to have such a glaring weakness at O-line.
All BYU Fans are disappointed with this needless loss. The saddest part to me
was that Book II of Anae appears to be just as boring and unimaginative as his
first read. It looks like we will just be getting bad play calling faster now!
mnsaveRigby, IDGuy Holliday - fail with all the drops.Robert Anae - fail with only 16 points and the most third down situations in
the Bronco era.Mark Atuaia - fail with Williams carrying the ball 33 times
- too many - he's going to get hurt.Garrett Tujague - fail with no
pass protection and no running game until the 4th quarter.mnsave,How is it a fail on Atuaia that Williams carried the ball 33 times???
Anae calls the plays.Williams proved to handle the work load very well, he
gained over 140 yards and proved that he can be a workhorse type of RB. Autaia
gets a pass, he had his backs ready to go and they produced. The running game
was actually one of the few positives on offense from this game.
It is nice to see someone step up and accept responsibility. However, a game is
never about just one play. BYUs offense simply had poor execution most of the
RBB, Yes it nice that Anae steped up and accepted responsibility. His next step
should be to resign.!!!!!!!! Same-O - Same-0.....offense. It's going to be
a long season. We better get used to it. There has got to be a good offensive
coordinator some place in the country that would like to come to BYU. There are
100's of high school coaches that have a better knowledge and feel for the
game than Anea.
Duckhunter Highland, UTI'm waiting for BYU to play
before I make an assessment, I need to actually see them first. My concerns for
them are the o-line and the corners, other than those 2 positions they should be
solid, but of course I need to see them firstDuckhunter Highland, UTThe offense was the same bungling batch of ineptitude
it has been for the last 3 years. The defense was stellar, Virginia did not
sustain one single drive on them the entire game. Instead offensive idiocy and
special teams ineptitude cost them a game.Discussion?
Re: CougarOnTheProwlWilliams carried the ball 33 times out of
necessity. Williams was the only one doing anything. It reminds me of JJ DiLuigi
in 2010. He was literally the only playmaker on that team at the time.
That's WAY too many carries for a back his size. If it stays like that all
season he will get hurt.This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of
the offensive line. They got their trash kicked up and down the field and played
like PANSIES with ZERO effort. They weren't even acting like they wanted to
play. If I'm Coach Tujague I am in their ear all week, and I'm
benching anyone who won't block next week against Texas.
Painfully evident that football is way lower than #5 on Bronco's list of
priorities...more like #15? Worst opening BYU game I can remember...and I
painfully witnessed it from the front row! But Bronco is happy, as long as they
try hard and have strong testimonies...pssshhht. Too many high expectations with
Bronco's teams:1. National Championship (when? 2033?)2. Amazing
new hurried offense will tire any team (especially BYU)3. Amazing new
quarterback that passed up Stanford for BYU (who throws at receiver's
feet)4. BYU's best group of receivers ever (did you see many
catches?)5. The return of our amazing offensive coordinator Robert Anae
(uhhhh, just hand the ball to Jamal & have him run it up the middle...again,
and again, and again...)Perhaps BYU's marketing department
should stop pumping everyone up for runaway seasons?
If Max Hall throws the pass BYU gets a first down and wins the game. Actually if
Max Hall or John Beck were at QB they would have gone 25-35 for over 350 yards
in the air and multiple touch downs instead of 13-35 and I forget the sorry
yardage count BYU had in the air for the game. Yes Anae probably should have run
the ball but the receiver was wide open and Hill threw too high ...as he did all
game long. Actually the ball was either in the dirt or wildly overthrown and I
have seen no improvement from last year with Hill when the did the same
thing.The kid is a running / option QB in the Doman mold and I doubt he will be
anything but that. Being athletic doesn't always translate to being
accurate as we have seen with Tim Tebow.
Maybe BYU just stinks at playing in the rain? There was supposed to be a 30%
chance of rain yesterday.When was the last season opener away game
than BYU played where it rained? I would imagine some Washington team.
My worst fears regarding Anae's rehire were realized early in this game. I
was always openly critical of him and he proved yesterday that regardless of the
offense you're running, play calling and game management is important and
he is clearly lacking in those areas. While it's true that he never should
have called a pass play late in the game and deep in our own territory, he also
shouldn't have handed off to Jamall 33 times during the game. When has BYU
ever had a running back carry the ball 33 times? Go fast, go hard is definitely
not going to get us any where if most of the time it means 2 yards and a cloud
of dust. I thought BYU left that offense behind 40 years ago!
Texas will roll over BYU. No doubt about it.
So BYU goes up 7-0 in the first half. They get the ball back late in the half
and instead of running the clock out,they still went soft and fast...took hardly
any time off the clock and left Virginia time to go kick a FG. That's 3
points. End result, Cav's win by 3. Not controlling the clock in that
situation was huge!
Duckhunter and I don't agree often, but that BYU offense was "same
bungling batch of ineptitude it has been for the last 3 years".
Traveling 2000 miles takes its toll but Virginia is a below average team in a
below average conference. Why should Robert Anae be any different the second
time around? Hurry-up doesn't equate to efficient. Just saying.
It's about time for an in depth article on the effects of high altitude and
athletes. The only people writing about a negative impact on players
at all are sports writers who keep repeating the same myth over and over.
Occasionally, opposing coaches mention a negative effect, but that's an
easy excuse for poor performance.
Article quote: "It appeared that BYU — a team that had overcome a
blocked punt and safety and had allowed the Cavaliers exactly zero sustained
long scoring drives all day — was in total control, ready to skip out of
town with a win. All that was needed was a conservative play followed by a
punt....."Yep.A lead.In the rain.With a QB that had NOT performed well throwing the ball all day.On a 3rd down.LATE in the 4th quarter.With a
defense that had been holding their opponent pretty well.Hey, I
know!, let's throw a pass in the middle of the field!Come on,
guys! There are times you play aggressive and then there are times when you
play to protect the lead.Stupid, stupid, stupid....Once
again, we get an "L" where it wasn't so much that our opponent beat
us as it feels like we beat ourselves.Sigh....
The defense played great. I think the offense was trying to set a different mark
prior to kickoff. How many 3 & outs can we have in the shortest amount of
time possible. I think we have set a new record in the books. What a joke of
play calling and offensive line blocking. Texas will pose a
different set of problems defensively. Let's see if we can learn from our
mistakes and not do them again. I am impressed that we did not have any major
personal fouls penalties against us. That is a positive take-away from Sat
BYU football is just too much hype and cant live up to it. Hype about heaps,
Nelson, Taysom Hill and all of them were ok. But its not the QBs. Our
O'line sucks bad. They need to go hike up the Y more than anything so that
they can actually can get around and block. Them long horns are for sure gonna
ride the cougars this weekend
I don't think it was a bad call at all. it was an easy throw that Hill
should have been able to make, but he threw it high and Williams should have
been able to bring it in. Had they converted on that they would have had four
more downs to run the clock down and would have been fine. Bottom
line is it was Hill's fault.
It's one game. Yeah it was a bit of a heart break, but I liked the way they
played. I still look forward to the remainder of the season and seeing what
Robert Anae can do with BYU's offense.
Well, I hear some team with an uptempo offense like BYU's is playing
Virginia in Charlottesville this upcoming weekend. I wonder if they will score
more than 16 points with their 94 offensive plays against that stingy Virginia
defense. Ummmm, yeah, I'm guessing that the Oregon Ducks will!!
The experiment of go fast go hard may be good but not with this group. We will
be lucky to win five games. Maybe next year.
What an act of Charity for Virginia, they will love BYU forever, esp if it is
their only win...we are about helping others, even football teams, feel good
about themselves. Mission Accomplished. (and it was a game long, team effort).
Seriously, it seems the go-hard, go-fast thing needs tempering with wisdom, to
be willing to change that up when needing to burn clock, such as at end of first
half, or to abandon it altogether in adverse weather and game delay such as
Saturday...need wisdom and courage to change game plan as conditions may dictate
over the course of a game, not stick to a losing proposition...its a football
philosophy, not the Gospel Principles we are talking about here.
Glad to see Anae take responsibility for this one. He blew it! What's more,
he still has the tendency he had before to call the same pattern of plays. In
short, he's predictable. Look back at those situations where we gained 7 or
8 yards on the first down and then ended up not making a first down and having
to punt the ball. In almost every case, with only a yard or two to go, he went
for the long play--with a pass play--rather than just focus on getting the first
down. I don't mind an occasional pass play, but isn't it better to run
the ball generally since we have at least two downs to make just a couple of
yards. By calling a pass play, he's not surprising anyone. Everybody knows
BYU likes to pass and they're waiting more for a pass play than a run. So,
Robert, mix it up more. Focus on getting that first down rather than gaining 10
Before the game, I was filled with much hope and excitement. After the
game, I was visibly depressed and wanted to vomit!Yet again,
it's another case of much hype and no bite! After all the glaring
pre-season hype, the so called go fast, go hard offense seems nothing more than
a gimmick, a joke that's not even funny. Hope they can work the problems
out or it's going to be a long and painful season.As for those
who bragged about how great and exciting the new offense is, I said before to
please consider the effect when hype and predictions don't come true. This
is a glaring example of what I meant, so may I humbly ask you guys to simply put
a sock on it before you have the urge to boast again. You make like miserable
for the rest of us by giving fuel to the likes of those who live to mock and
dissed on us.Go Cougars! Good luck against the Utes and the Aggies
at least! I had a level of confidence before but now I'm resting only on
hope after watching last night's game!
The problem was not the called play, it was a bad pass- too high and too hard
for the back to control (rookie mistakes).
@netwidt: Anae neither needs nor deserves you to stick up for him. He's
well paid to make the right calls. That call was terrible. Harmon is paid to
analyze the games and provide his interpretation...which he did. I have no
problem with criticizing reporters...nor football coaches.
I knew this would happen. Ever since BYU went away from their a successful
offense in order to accommodate a running QB, it has been a disaster. I just
don't get why BYU has been trying to change. They should go back to the
pro-style, drop back passing offence that has always been so successful for
them. The read option doesn't work for BYU and it never will. Now
we're stuck with a QB who doesn't know how to pass and a very
predictable offense. Thanks Bronco, for letting a QB force his way in due to
just his "leadership" abilities and letting Heaps go. BYU's
offense went from being dangerous to an embarrassment under your watch!
Gary Crowton: "I wanted to win by more" Ahead with seconds left but a
turnover loses BYU the game.Bronco Mendenhall: "I wanted to win
the game" Going for 2 instead of kicking the extra point to tie and let the
defense win it in overtime. BYU loses game aginst Boise St.Brandon
Doman: "Miscommunication" Taysom Hill runs a meaningless play at the end
of the Utah St game. BYU wins but loses Hill to a season ending knee injury
forcing Cougar Nation to endure 8 more games of Riley Nelson ineptitude.Robert Anae: "I thought we could get the first down" Ahead by 4
with under 3:00 remaining. Throwing a wet ball by a 13 for 40 quarterback to try
and get a meaningless first down instead of doing the safe thing and punting and
letting the defense win the game. BYU loses game on an interception.Anybody seeing a pattern here?
I guess I am the only one that thinks it was the right call it just did not
work!!! Williams is a great pass catching RB, he was open and a completion would
have given the Cougs a first down!!! There is no such thing as a "safe"
play in football! You can play the Monday morning what if game all you want to!
I think we will see a much different BYU team on Sat. at home against
That's nice of Anae to take all that blame but if he had called a running
play and it got stuffed (like a lot of our running plays did that game) then
people would've criticized him for being too safe and predictable or
conservative. It was a safe pass to the RB who let the ball go
through his arms. Maybe we shouldn't have been passing 40 times in a game
with that much wind and rain and Taysom looking like a slightly faster more
athletic version of Riley Nelson, but with the OL not being able to punch their
way out of a paper bag, what else could Anae do?There were way too
many errors on the field for Anae to take the blame. We let them block a punt
(giving them a short field and a TD), we had a bad snap into the end zone giving
them 2 points (very nearly a TD), and the interception went through the arms of
Williams (not Anae's fault) and into the arms of the defender.I
guess the biggest mistake was in hoping Taysom would be more like Max Hall and
less like Riley.
Please don't re-hire him a 3rd time Bronco...
Hard to believe I'm done after just one game, but I am. ESPN and their SEC
bias has ruined the college football experience and my last vestige of hope, an
upstart independent, has gone down in flames after one game. I will now spend
my Saturdays mowing the lawn, accompanying my wife shopping, or preparing dinner
over watching this team. Robert Anae still calls the same stupid plays he did
last time he was here...he now just does it faster and harder.
The call was fine. The pass was there, the catch should have been made. The
failure of the play wasn't Anae's fault, it wasn't Hill's
fault, it was Williams' fault -- a perfectly catchable ball. If the catch
is made, we likely win the game. The probability of an interception being made
on a conservative pass made like that is about as low as a fumble being caused
on a run. A slippery ball is not as easy to hang on to. Had Williams been
given the ball on a run up the middle, who's to say he wouldn't have
fumbled? Anae, Harmon, and anybody else who says it was a dumb call are wrong
to do so.I've seen too many games go awry because of
over-conservative play calling. The BYU-Utah game in 2010 comes to mind:
we're moving the ball just fine all the way down the field and suddenly
become conservative since all we need is a field goal -- no gimme at 40+
yards.As somebody said, the game isn't lost on one play. The
13 of 40 passing was a primary reason.
Anae took the blame. Why shouldn't he? THat was the stupidest call ever.
But for Anae, BYU is 1-0 even though they played terribly. Fire Anae. Now! And
quite frankly, Bronco, if you can't find an offense its okay if you follow
him. What an embarrassment. Yes Bronco the offensive line was
horrendous. But to say you were please with Hill's play is ludicrous.
13-40. The few he did complete were behind the line of scrimmage. And as bad ad
the receivers were they actually bailed him out 3-4 times. Change quarterbacks.
Change offensive line. Change head coach.
Is it me or is there an over abundance of Ute fans on here. It seems to confirm
the fact that they still act like the little brother in the state. As a Cougar
fan I haven't read one Ute article in 3 years, because I have NO interest
in that team. But I guess these guys do have an interest in the Cougars. Little
brother has to find our what big brother is doing. Oh and Chris B. your comment
if BYU can't beat Virginia who can they beat, I seem to remember not long
ago Utah losing to one of the worst teams in the country at home, Colorado is
horrible and you've struggled with them for 2 years now, so don't get
on a high horse.This game however blew this season for BYU, our
defense is good enough to beat Texas but that pittiful offense won't sniff
the end zone. If Taysom can't comlete a freaking pass take him out! He
needs to control how hard he throws and just throw it where it needs to go. Anae
made a stupid call and it's getting tiresome to watch!
I'm not making excuses, because we should have made the plays (or the play
calls) necessary to win. But to those "fair-weather" fans who are
bailing on the team, remember three things. No Hoffman (anybody who says we
didn't miss one of the best receivers in the country is flat out wrong. We
needed his sure hands). Two hour delay right when BYU's offense was
starting to get going. And awful, awful weather that took us away from playing
our game. Excuses? No. Realities? Yes. I'm not saying we will beat Texas or
go undefeated the rest of the way, but don't give up on the team after one
The intended target was wide open.It was not a bad play. Having too many players
sprinting to get down field on a punt and not enough blocking to prevent a
blocked punt, not THAT is a coaching decision.