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  • Downtownchrisbrown ,
    Aug. 27, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    So would he be eligible to play right away or would he have to sit out a year?

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 4:28 p.m.

    The article lacks information about exactly what he did after returning from a mission. The article only says that after he returned, he did not see playing time in 2012. So is he eligible to play for BYU this season? If so, why? Has he not been on their teem this season. We need more information. Kind of a waste of an article in a way, because it leaves us hanging.

  • Shawnm750 West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    @panamadesnews - Well, he signed on in 2010, went on a mission and when he got back in 2012, he ended up sitting on the bench at Notre Dame for the 2012 season. I think the nature of the transfer dictates when the can play at their new school. I know when Jake Heaps decided to pack up his football and leave BYU he had to wait at least one season before starting this year.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    The article says he is trying to enroll this Fall and play immediately. There are some provisions that would allow him to play, but most likely he would have to wait until 2014. But if he could play, we could use another DB.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    hmmmm,

    So he goes through fall camp, see's he'll never be better than a 4th string saftey at ND - then uses the "family illness" card so he doesn't have to miss a year at bYu?

    If the "illness" was the driving force, why not ask for a transfer last year or early this summer? Why waite until after fall camp?

    Let's hope the NCAA does the right thing and make him sit out a year.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:27 p.m.

    Nice! It will be good to have him step in. He was a talented, highly recruited kid out of high school. He might be able to step in and replace Daniel Sorensen right away next year.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:34 p.m.

    HHog, etal., -

    " ... Let's hope the NCAA does the right thing and make him sit out a year.... "

    I suspect doing the "right thing" will amount to doing whatever the RULE dictates - don't you???

    Oh, and you provided some nice conjecture and speculative remarks there.

    But HHog, why do you worry about BYU? Or is just that you can see a nice little player moving from the Mighty Notre Dame program to BYU who is able to fill in a little vacant hole that will immediately benefit the Mighty Cougar offense, and you're having a hard time dealing with it.

    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:35 p.m.

    According to Irishillustrated.com he would have to sit out a year. It would be great if he could play this year. If he has to sit out, I am okay with that since next year he could compete for the vacated safety job with Daniel Sorenson graduating this year. Welcome aboard Chris, we are glad to have you at B.Y.U.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:32 p.m.

    Curt Flood...

    Free Agency!

    Universities make millions off student-athletes...

    Coaches can pick-up and leave whenever they want to...

    Players are punished for wanting to move on.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    This certainly could cause some controversy. I fear that if he comes and is allowed to immediately play, they will be all sorts of outcry from certain people. The reality is that the NCAA will be the deciding factor whether he plays or not; BYU is not the ones that make such a decision.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:47 p.m.

    Welcome aboard Chris; we're thrilled to have you join our legacy football program.

    Pay no attention to the jealous little hill troll who simply likes to make stuff up to feel better about herself every time a 3-star recruit from an elite school like Notre Dame decides to transfer to BYU.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:52 p.m.

    HHog, if you have a legitimate source for the "familiy illness" comment, please share!

    If it is a family illness, it had to start sometime. Why should you be so quick to imply that it is a lie, conveniently timed?

    Honestly, bitterness is not becoming...

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:03 p.m.

    "Free Agency!
    Universities make millions off student-athletes...
    Coaches can pick-up and leave whenever they want to...
    Players are punished for wanting to move on."

    -there you go again

    You have no idea what your wishing for. Free agency would mean KVN would not be playing football in provo. He would have been stolen by a BCS program a couple of years ago.

    You may want to rethink the realities of free agency.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:03 p.m.

    Hedgehog has re-surfaced to Badger the cougar fans.

  • rhappahannock Washington, DC
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:08 p.m.

    Good luck to Badger whatever he decides. However, I am in the "college free agent" camp. If he was a regular student, he could transfer anywhere he could get in. I think the same should be true of athletes. Their scholarship can be taken away anytime, so they should be able to transfer anywhere.

    Ultimately, only 2-3% of these athletes, after sacrificing their bodies and often condemning themselves to a lifetime of joint pain, play professionally. They need more flexibility to get the education they need.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:29 p.m.

    Let's See

    A Trojan wanted to become a Cougar
    An Oregon Beaver wanted to become a Cougar
    A Cardinal wanted to become a Cougar
    Several Aggie's wanted to become Cougars
    A Ram wanted to become a Cougar
    A Warrior wanted to become a Cougar
    A Sun Devil wanted to become a Cougar
    A Huskie wanted to become a Cougar
    A Commodore wanted to become a Cougar
    I guess one of the fighting Irish can become a Cougar too.
    Welcome

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:33 p.m.

    "It's time to make some drastic changes and if it creates Miami Heat scenarios, so be it."

    -Thomas jefferson

    So your asking for the biggest problem the NBA faces? or is it that bYu doesn't have a D1 backfield and you will support any position needed to get help for this year.

    Be honest.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    Nice!

    Chris Badger was a 3-star recruit who had offers from Notre Dame, BYU, California, Florida St., Missouri, Northwestern, Oregon, Stanford, and Utah coming out of high school.

    Notre Dame's loss is BYU's gain.

    Welcome aboard Chris!

  • A-Aron Provo, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:48 p.m.

    If you check the Rivals article it says he will have to sit out a year. Its really to bad because we could use some more depth at CB. But o well! It will be nice to have him next year.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:49 p.m.

    Signed with Notre Dame in 2010 enrolled in January 2010 . . . left school after 2010 spring semester for mission in Ecuador for LDS Church . . . returned to Notre Dame in June 2012 . . . first-team Utah 4A all-state defensive back for 2009 by Salt Lake Tribune and Salt Lake City Deseret News . . . defensive MVP on 2009 all-Valley team selected by Provo Herald . . . 10th-best player and second-best def back in Midlands region (Colorado, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Utah) by SuperPrep . . . selected to Tacoma News-Tribune Western 100 team for 2009 . . . one of 12 defensive backs from 11 Western states named to Western 100 ... Provo Herald all-Valley selection as defensive back as junior in 2008 as one of only two juniors to earn all-state honors . . . . . . earned second-team all-conference recognition as sophomore, to go with all-Valley honorable mention notice . . . led Thunderbirds to four straight Utah 4A state titles, as starter each of last three seasons . . . helped Timpview to four-year combined record of 49-3 - 11-2 in 2009, 13-0 in both 2008 and 2007 and 12-1 in 2006 . . . led Timpview to four straight Utah 4A Region 7 league titles.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:56 p.m.

    Tom in CA,

    I just can't let your comment go. It is Cougar fans like you that make my blood boil. If God really supports BYU's football team, why do they ever lose and why does any other college even try. If God iinspired this kid to switch to BYU it was more for the kid than the team. God wants all His children to succeed, even those who don't go to BYU. If you hadn't noticed, that happens to be the vast majority of us.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:57 p.m.

    "Notre Dame's loss is BYU's gain"

    Trueblue,

    I do agree that this kid should be a "gain" for bYu, considering how poor the DB's situation is at bYu.

    I will disagree that it's a "loss" for ND. ND has 3 much better safties ahead of him (two sophmores and a junior) and the gap is very wide. What ND "gains" is a scholorship to use on an ATHLETE that can help the program.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 27, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    Too bad he didn't come to BYU out of high school!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 8:43 p.m.

    Mormon Ute -

    A little sensitive, aren't we?

    It was just a little tongue in cheek "dig" at HHog. Lighten up brother.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:01 p.m.

    Tom in CA
    Vallejo, CA

    But HHog, why do you worry about BYU? Or is just that you can see a nice little player moving from the Mighty Notre Dame program to BYU who is able to fill in a little vacant hole that will immediately benefit the Mighty Cougar offense, and you're having a hard time dealing with it.

    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

    _______

    Yeah I'm trying to wrap my thoughts around this. Especially the second part.
    The Mighty Cougar offense? Ummm ok.
    Jabari Parker passed on BYU to join Duke.
    Jimmer is flopping in Sacatomotoes.
    Are they doing anything wrong Tom?

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:13 p.m.

    Nice to get Badger even if he has to sit out a year. Next year BYU loses Daniel Sorensen, he is a senior this year. However, they should gain back a healthy Jordan Johnson and Trenton Trammell as corners and now they can add Badger into the mix at Safety.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    hedgy

    so typical of our jealous friends on the hill

    Every Utah recruit, regardless of the number of stars or offers, is always the greatest thing since sliced bread, the moment he commits or signs with Utah.

    and

    Every BYU recruit, regardless of the number of stars or offers, is always a total loser, the moment he commits or signs with BYU.

    If Chris Badger decided tonight to transfer to Utah instead of BYU, tomorrow you'd be singing his praises and bragging about how recruits were living elite programs like Notre Dame to play for Utah.

    It's hilarious how predictable you are.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:23 p.m.

    WACPaddled

    "Yeah I'm trying to wrap my thoughts around this."

    Try harder.

    Even without Jabari Parker, BYU signed its best recruiting class in history and 2014 could be even better.

    Jimmer, a player who wasn't even recruited by teams in his own back yard, became the Consensus National Player of the Year, sweeping every major POY award, and becoming such a sensation that Jimmermania became a household word nation wide.

  • flatlander Omaha, NE
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:26 p.m.

    BYU must set a record for transfers from other schools.

  • RedBlood Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    Congrats to BYU on the get. It certainly never hurts to have some nice talent bring some competition to the program. Let's hope he pans out and is able to contribute.

  • Jeff29 Draper, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:08 p.m.

    I love all the comments about him transferring because he was buried in the depth chart. He was a redshirt Freshman. How many Freshman do you think are on the two-deep at any D1 school? Not many. Notre Dame consistently has one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. They didn't give him a scholarship because they needed him to ride the bench. I'm pretty sure they expected him to compete for a starting position in the future.

    I really don't understand why it's so hard for many of U to accept the fact that people's priorities and desires change. (I guess it's only hard when they change to the benefit of BYU, I'm sure you'd have no problem if he were transferring to the U). For whatever reason, the kid wants to attend BYU. Get over it. You'll have plenty of time to think about him during his senior year when he's crushing anything in red that comes across the middle.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    Evidence of BYU a desirable place

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:01 p.m.

    Maybe the article has been updated, it makes clear he has no expectation of playing this year. Beginning next year he will have three years to play three, so could build quite a college career at BYU.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:01 p.m.

    Sounds like the Murphy kid going to Utah instead of BYU. Transfers happen to and from most schools.

  • Braxton ogden, ut
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:13 p.m.

    Here we go again....Chris as well as many others from past years should have honored their commitment. More so, BYU should not open their doors if they truly believe in honor. Here is the problem.....more and more coaches shy away from recruiting Mormon athletes because many want to transfer to BYU after a mission. On the other hand and is more likely, Chris may have had his scholarship denied since he was not a contributor (a D1 school can only carry 85 Scholarships). ND is a private school that costs 38,000 a semester compared to BYU (cheapest private school in the World) at just over 4,000 a semester.

  • sdcoug SAN DIEGO, CA
    Aug. 28, 2013 12:06 a.m.

    SLC WATCH:

    How many wanted to transfer to the u of u? Good points you made. Little sisters keep on crying, GO BYU!

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Aug. 28, 2013 6:59 a.m.

    I suspect returned missionaries find the atmosphere at out of state schools to be the complete opposite of their two years in the mission field. Let's face it, the social life at most universities consists of drinking and hooking up, followed by more hooking up and drinking. Not exactly something a young LDS man wants to take part in.

    Active LDS kids need to figure this out when being recruited. Stay in-state or prepare for the party life!

  • MSA lehi, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 7:05 a.m.

    So Badger enrolled at ND for spring 2010 and then served a mission till summer 2012. Did he a use a redshirt last year for ND? If he has to sit out a season for transfer rules, does he come back in 2014 with all four years of eligibility left? Either way, welcome aboard. Our secondary is shaping up to be very solid the next few years. Especially if Johnson gets a medical redshirt this season.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:01 a.m.

    I'm sorry to see Chris Badger leave Notre Dame, but wish him well playing for another legacy football program like BYU.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    How many more high profile recruits have to leave Notre Dame before there are questions asked of Brian Kelly? There is very little doubt that he brings them in in droves with the allure of the Golden Dome. They stay and look around and then leave. There is very little doubt that there is some factor involved.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:16 a.m.

    He'll step right up and dominate right away, from the start.

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 8:39 a.m.

    Tom in CA

    Um, he is a safety, safeties play defense. Considering hedgehog is from Ann Arbor I'm guessing he's probably a U of M fan. Most of them are bitter and still sour over Chris Holtrey transferring after his mission.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Aug. 28, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    Me Myself and I -

    thanks. I knew he would play defense - just got a little excited and made a "slip on the keyboard". Go Aggies!! (tomorrow night, that is.)

  • Elay23 Saint George, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    @SLCWatch

    If BYU wants every bodies 4th string players...so be it. Tell me how that goes when you play everyone's 1st string players

  • SCUte Rock Hill, SC
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    For the life of me I can't comprehend a transfer to BYU from Notre Dame. ND is the idilic college! It supports what college life should be in all aspects. Too bad the kid can't handle not living in the Utah County bubble - good luck to him anyway.

  • SCUte Rock Hill, SC
    Aug. 28, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    Frozen Chosen - That myopic view is amazing. You think it doesn't happen in Provo too? It is just covered up a lot better than at other campuses. I am so glad I was able to help my kids know that wherever they go - they will find what they are looking for. Hopefully, they will "Choose the Right".

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    @SCUte - where did Frozen Chosen say drinking and hooking up doesn't happen in Provo? Do you think having to "look for it" in Provo is the same as being totally surrounded and having to constantly dodge it at other universities? The difference in availability and expectations is so massive that the only "amazing view" is your ridiculous suggestion that the college climate at BYU is the same as at other schools. The amount of "covering up" at BYU is pretty minimal, and there have been numerous football players suspended or kicked off the team for violating the honor code, as I'm sure you're well aware. You wish there was more cover up just because you hope to invoke the hypocrisy card against the school you clearly can't stand.

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    SCUte

    Chris Badger faced armed robbers twice on his LDS mission in Ecuador; it's doubtful that not being able to handle living outside of the Utah County bubble was even a miniscule factor in his decision to transfer from Notre Dame to BYU.

    Get over your petty jealousy; the Utes would have been doing backflips if Chris had decided to transfer to Utah instead of BYU.

    ----------

    Elay23

    3rd and 4th stringers at elite schools like Notre Dame, which are loaded with 4- and 5-star recruites, are often better than the first stringers at lowly, conference bottom dwellers like Utah. Don't be so quick to judge a player whom the Utes wanted badly enough to offer a scholly to coming out of high school.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    The article conveniently leaves out that he was buried on the depth chart at Notre Dame, as reported by both the South Bend Tribune and the Salt Lake Tribune.

  • truthsandwich RANDOLPH, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    If this kid's looking for playing time as a safety, he definitely picked the right school to transfer to.

  • LV Edwards! Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    Hmmph!! ~Frown~ Welcome to Provo, Badger.

  • SLCWatch Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    @Elay23
    Okay, you want to play that game

    A Trojan wanted to become a Cougar Projected 1st Team starter Uono Kavienga
    An Oregon Beaver wanted to become a Cougar Projected 1st Team starter Uani Unga
    A Cardinal wanted to become a Cougar Projected 2nd Team starter Taysom Hill
    Several Aggie's wanted to become Cougars Returning 1st Team starter Reilly Nelson
    Returning 1st Team starter Kelly Poppinga
    A Ram wanted to become a Cougar Returning 1st Team starter Drew Reilly
    A Warrior wanted to become a Cougar Projected 1st Team starter Michael Wadsworth
    A Sun Devil wanted to become a Cougar Projected 1st Team starter Max Hall
    A Huskie wanted to become a Cougar Returning 1st Team starter Derek McLaughlin
    A Commodore wanted to become a Cougar Returning 1st Team starter Tom Sorenson

    Might I add
    A WSU Cougar wanted to be a real Cougar Projected 1st Team starter Aaron Wagner

    You have more accomplishments among this group of fourth stringers on their former teams than you would care to read about.
    Research...before Blather.
    I have watched them all preform just fine against other 1st stringers
    Thank you for playing.

  • No Conference Will Take Us SEATTLE, WA
    Aug. 28, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    PAC man
    Anaheim, CA
    WACPaddled

    "Yeah I'm trying to wrap my thoughts around this."

    Try harder.

    Even without Jabari Parker, BYU signed its best recruiting class in history and 2014 could be even better.

    Jimmer, a player who wasn't even recruited by teams in his own back yard, became the Consensus National Player of the Year, sweeping every major POY award, and becoming such a sensation that Jimmermania became a household word nation wide.

    >>>>>

    We have no idea how the recruiting class will be until they are on the floor. Jabari is not going to BYU and Jimmer is an after thought. Would fellow Cougar fans stop spinning the truth please.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    Tom in CA,

    Yes, I am a little sensitive and freely admit it. It comes from living with too many holier than thou BYU fan neighbors who take their team too seriously. Thanks for clarifying your intent. Sorry for jumping all over your comment.

  • greatbam22 andrews afb, MD
    Aug. 28, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    @ Frozen Chosen

    "Active LDS kids need to figure this out when being recruited. Stay in-state or prepare for the party life!"

    Or pursue the online dating route but we all know how that worked out for a former Notre Dame player.

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 2:25 p.m.

    "Chris Badger was a 3-star recruit who had offers from Notre Dame, BYU, California, Florida St., Missouri, Northwestern, Oregon, Stanford, and Utah coming out of high school.

    Notre Dame's loss is BYU's gain."

    Well said; we're excited to have Chris join the BYU football program.

    ----------

    No conference championships for U

    "Jimmer is an after thought"???

    Talk about spinning the truth. Whatever Jimmer does post-BYU in the NBA is completely irrelevant to what he accomplished while playing at BYU - see Brian Johnson, who didn't even make an NFL roster.

    btw, it's laughable that a Ute troll, pretending to be a "fellow Cougar fan", would be so brazen as to call anybody out for "spinning the truth".

  • HS Sport Dude Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    The guy runs a 4.7 second 40. He is a tough hitter but lacks the speed to play defensive back in D1. It does not matter if he sits out our not...he will not play.....he will not help. BYU is loaded with slow people wanting to play skilled positions.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Aug. 28, 2013 3:54 p.m.

    @Braxton,
    "More so, BYU should not open their doors if they truly believe in honor."
    "more and more coaches shy away from recruiting Mormon athletes because many want to transfer to BYU after a mission..."
    "...BYU (cheapest private school in the World) at just over 4,000 a semester."

    Every rant in your post was riddled with bitterness and veiled hypocrisy, since we all know that other schools, utah included, would welcome this kid in; and you know that you would too.

    I agree with point #2. BYU should get the best LDS kids. Period.

    And concerning the cost of tuition, just remember, the bottom is dropping out of certain religious institutions (donations) while the LDS church has a high percentage of tithe payers to offset the cost of a quality education.

  • MrPlate Lindon, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    Tell me Braxton, if I work at Sam's Club, is it dishonorable for me to seek a position at Costco to improve my situation, and is it dishonorable for Costco to hire me? What ridiculous drivel to suggest Chris Badger and BYU are being in any way dishonorable or even the slightest bit unethical with this arrangement.

    Maybe in former Russia a person isn't free to change his school, profession, or athletic affiliation, but as long as it's done within the rules in America, long live freedom of choice and the consequences that follow.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 28, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Jealous Sort Dude

    "The guy runs a 4.7 second 40. He is a tough hitter but lacks the speed to play defensive back in D1."

    So why did Chris Badger have OFFERS from Notre Dame, BYU, California, Florida St., Missouri, Northwestern, Oregon, Stanford, and UTAH coming out of high school?

    That's quite a list of offers for a "tough hitter who lacks the speed (4.65 second 40) to play defensive back in D1."

    Awaiting your carefully thought out reply:

    * crickets *

  • Dadof8 Pleasant Grove, UT
    Aug. 28, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    Chris's father was my cardiologist. We both had boys playing high school football when he was treating me. Many of our visits revolved around 10 minutes of medical conversation and 15-20 minutes of high school football. Glad to see Chris come to Provo, but sorry to hear that his mother's health isn't good. Whatever her problem may be I hope they can find doctors as good as Chris's dad. I personally know of two lives he has saved...mine being one of them.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Aug. 29, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    "You have no idea what your wishing for. Free agency would mean KVN would not be playing football in provo. He would have been stolen by a BCS program a couple of years ago.

    You may want to rethink the realities of free agency."

    hedgedog, KVN could have entered the NFL draft this past season and probably been selected within the first two rounds. Sorry, but that smashes anything any "BCS program" could come close to offering. Furthermore, these same "BCS programs" had their chances at Van Noy a couple of years ago.

    Dismissed.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Aug. 29, 2013 8:20 a.m.

    We have no idea how the recruiting class will be until they are on the floor. Jabari is not going to BYU and Jimmer is an after thought. Would fellow Cougar fans stop spinning the truth please.

    ----

    Umm, but what about all of the recruiting publication's star rankings Chris B. and the rest of the Ute team count as they tirelessly post on BYU comment boards? Do they only count for football, or only when they benefit Utah?

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 29, 2013 10:49 p.m.

    Great kid and could be an immediate helper. Good luck Chris.

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    ---> Mormon Ute

    Even more than what makes YOUR blood boil is what makes MY blood boil! Too often I hear people speak of things which are solely part of this temporal existence, ie, buying a house, buying a car, getting married, and so on, and state they expect God to decide what they should do. I often wonder: why would God create this world and, with our approval, use it as a learning world where we learn to exercise our agency (not FREE agency; it wasn't free!), and then put that aside and tell us what to do every day? The answer is: He DIDN'T!!

    God expects us to use the intelligence we have to make decisions for ourselves. In fact, there were times when Joseph Smith asked the Lord what to do about seemingly important things for the Church. The Lord's reply? "It mattereth not to me". It is not that the Lord doesn't care, it is that He expects us to do some work too.

    The Lord, unlike President Obama, does NOT pick winners or losers in sports contests. Or make draft picks. Or tell students which school to attend.