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Ex-Riverton High coach charged with rape, sex abuse ordered to stand trial

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  • Utexmom Flower Mound, TX
    Aug. 26, 2013 6:43 p.m.

    It's a very sad story and must be devastating for the family, etc. Who knows what teachers can be trusted? Teenagers need to be taught that just because someone is a teacher, and they are in a position of authority, does not mean that they should be followed.

    However,this story also had too much step by step information in it.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    Aug. 26, 2013 8:48 p.m.

    Welcome to 2013 where a story like this just glosses over, like it's no big deal, the common gender of the teacher, victim and girlfriend... even evoking a term (object rape), which is no novel that it hasn't yet made it into Wiki, to describe the unnatural way in which all this occurred... appearing in the Deseret News... as Utexmom points out, in step-by-step detail.

    Feel so privileged to live in this enlightened age.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    Aug. 26, 2013 10:51 p.m.

    It's nice to see that the law is finally making no distinction between male or female offenders.

  • From Ted's Head Orem, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:10 a.m.

    So....a 17 year old lesbian with an interest in basketball hits it off with a 22 year old lesbian woman who happens to coach basketball--but not this teen--and is a teacher--but not of this teen--and they end up having a sexual relationship. I am looking for the crime here, because...

    1) She was 17 and it isn't statutory rape if her partner is less than 10 years older;
    2) Merely because the 22 year old woman was a coach and a teacher doesn't mean she falls into the category of abusing a position of trust.

    It seems as if the "position of trust" question is what this trial is about. It's entirely possible that the therapist erred when they reported the sexual activity between a minor and a legal adult and this whole thing got blown out of proportion due to the well-publicized accounts of teachers and coaches who HAVE initiated sexual relations with students over whom they did hold a position of trust, regardless of the 10 year rule re age differential.

    It certainly is a sensational and salacious story, but I'm betting she's found "not guilty." And she will change her name.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Aug. 27, 2013 5:59 a.m.

    Perhaps a clearer headline would be "Female coach at Riverton High accused of lesbian sexual misconduct with a student" Just get the facts out there, you know, be a reporter.

  • Hurteau Auburn, MA
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:32 a.m.

    "Mainly Me
    Werribee, 00

    It's nice to see that the law is finally making no distinction between male or female offenders."

    We'll see when it comes to sentencing,,,

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:34 a.m.

    In the newspaper business, the old adage was "If it bleeds, it leads." With the Deseret News, it is "If it involves Sex in any form it leads." The more shocking; the more immoral; the more outlandish, the bolder and larger the font. For a paper that claims to support the LDS Church, the interest in stories related to sex is telling. A little reflection from the editorial board might be in order. I simply ask, why is the Deseret News so interested in stories and news that relate to sex?

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:42 a.m.

    This teacher/coach is going to find out that you don't have to be in a direct teacher-student relationship to be guilty of raping a student. Any employee of the school district is under the obligation to protect the students as if they were the parents themselves. In loco parentis demands that staff place the safety and well-being of the students as the highest priority while the students are in their care.
    If the judge allows this to be portrayed as just a relationship between two people it will be a travesty.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:17 a.m.

    The trends of times to come. Scary indeed.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:51 a.m.

    It seems teachers need to be given courses about ethics in relation to their student/teacher relationships.

  • Eliot Genola, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    The newspaper will publish stories they believe are interesting to their readers. People in Riverton especially, and likely in other parts of the state will be interested in a story that involves sexual activity between a student and a teacher because it affects how they view schools and how well they trust teachers. I am always amazed at how people will complain about the nature of a story in the newspaper even when it is clear that they took the time to read it and comment on it. As far as the newspaper is concerned, their mission is accomplished when you click on the link and take the time to read. They don't care whether or not you liked the story or agreed with its publication. They just want to make sure that you'll come back tomorrow and click on some more of their links.

  • JP71 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Does this story really need to go into the graphic detail that it does? I expect higher standards than this from DN.

  • trekker Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    What graphic detail? the only thing i read was they kissed and she was charged with object rape, a standard name for the charge. Teachers should not be having relations with students. She should know better.

  • BYU Track Star Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    The Coach/Teacher should have waited for the student to turn 18 and graduate if she wanted to have a relationship with this now adult female. Human relationships are messy. Some are, by community standards considered immoral. But they are news and this avid reader was commenting on the news, but not endorsing this behavior.

  • Observenator Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    I find it interesting that so many posters are defending this "teacher" because it involves a same-sex relationship. The lengths people will go to in order to justify SGA is truly astonishing.

    Regardless of the propaganda of relative morality, wrong is wrong and right is right. I hope they throw the book at her. They would if this had involved a male teacher with a female student.

  • Middle of the Road Home Town USA, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:54 a.m.

    The whole thing, incident is sick anyway you look at it. It was and is unnatural but becoming a new normal?? I had to reread it to make sure I was reading it correctly. It read the same as if it was a male coach/teen girl or a female coach enticing a young teen boy. There appears to be no difference in how it was reported, as it would be about opposite genders involved.

    I agree with Ted's Head. He called it for what it is. Or is it not PC for a reporter to have done the same? Call it what it is. We don't make the rules. God does.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    Observenator

    I also wonder if the circumstances were male teacher of 22, and 17 year old female student the story would be the same. Doubt it.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Isolating the relationship will be difficult for the defense. They met at a school function, the teacher offered math homework help, the student visited her classroom often.
    The entire story reeks of cruising in the school to find partners.

  • YGradFan CENTERVILLE, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:23 a.m.

    I agree with Observenator. It's amazing that some of you are trying to defend this teacher's actions. Since it's a same-sex relationship, all of a sudden it's okay that this teacher did what she did? You would all be calling for the teacher's head if it were an opposite-sex relationship.

    Ted, the crime is obvious, the teacher should not have pursued any type of relationship with the teenager. It's not okay for them to ignore the law, just because they are "in love". What a joke!

  • JBT Provo, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    Observenator - I noticed the same thing... The tone of most comments seem to indicate people in general are 'okay' with this relationship.. Unbelievable.
    and this comment by her attorney - "Courtney wasn't using her position as a coach, I don't even know what position she had," Brown said. "These two people just fell in love." Could you imagine the outrage this comment would spark if the 'Coach was a male??
    I imagine this enhancement was added to the law for this very reason. I want to know my kids, who are easily manipulated, are safe at school. Kids face enough enough pressures from their friends.. they, or us parents, shouldn't have to also worry about coaches and teachers..

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    BU52: They don't exactly title articles "Male teacher accused of heterosexual contact with a student." They're not hiding it, they're just not sensationalizing it. While so many are outraged that the lesbian aspect is not discussed more, the rest of America has moved on.

    While some are outraged by Ted's Head, I would point out that he is only making a legal argument. While it may be creepy that a teacher hooked up with a student, prosecution must still prove that an actual law was broken. It's also creepy for a college professor to hook up with a student, but it's not a prosecutable offense. Shocking, but even if it were a male teacher and a female student, if no law was broken, they can't actually be sent to jail (I know of one male choir teacher who waited until his student was 18, and asked her out. She said yes. It was unethical and he lost his job, but it wasn't illegal).

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    I think that it is clear that children are not safe at school. I think we've heard enough of these cases, and of gunning down of fellow students, the ban on prayer etc to know that parents should be avoiding public schools altogether. LDS people were warned by their leaders of undesirable outcomes when public schools first appeared in Utah. I am hearing of more and more parents who are home schooling.

  • KG South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:54 a.m.

    I find it curious that yesterday's story of a 40-something lunch room worker who was sentenced for her inappropriate relationship with a student at the school had the woman's mug shot as the picture for the story. Here, though, DesNews decided to run the story with what appears to be a professionally photographed shot of this teacher/coach. Does it have anything to do with the relative attractiveness and/or age of the two women accused?

    At any rate, the teacher/coach-student relationship was inappropriate, sexual preference aside. I don't believe the relationship of trust between the two was so attenuated so as to render the teacher-student aspect as having NO influence. However, I tend to believe that if a person can be charged with a crime as an adult, that same person ought to be able to make her own decisions as to her social relationships. And arbitrary birthday should not be the deciding factor, but the totality of the circumstances. What the teacher did was wrong, but a law based on an arbitrary age shouldn't dictate when a person has the capacity to consent. But, it's the law we have.

  • danr San Bernardino, CA
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    All of you with your 'signs of the time' comments and condemnation of 'SGA' need to back off. This is about bad judgement by a teacher, not same sex attraction. If this was a male teacher and female student, or vice versa, you wouldn't make some stupid comment about opposite sex attractions. As much as you'd like to live your lives with your collective heads buried in the sand in denial of reality, men are hundreds of times more likely to engage in this kind of behavior with young girls. It's not a gay/lesbian issue; it's part of being human.

    It's sad that two such a young people with their entire lives ahead of them now will have this haunting them the rest of their lives. That's the real tragedy.

  • activ2004 Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    These charges are simply Beaver Cleaver outrageous considering the "progressive" world we are existing in.

    If, and I am sure there was, two (2) consenting individuals who are just exercising their Constitutional rights of "equal protection under the law" clause which was reinforced by the SCOTUS. The Prosecution rests....your excellencies.

  • Sportfanatic West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    @YGradFan

    Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a 16 or 17 Year Old in Utah

    As specified by the title of this offense, a victim of Unlawful Sexual Conduct with a 16 or 17 Year Old must have been 16 or 17 years old at the time the sexual contact took place. To be charged with this crime, the actor must be at least ten years older than the minor.

    Ted was right!

  • my point of view south jordan, ut
    Aug. 27, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    First things first, the teacher clearly showed poor judgement by her actions, and because of that she should not be teaching or in any other position of power among young people. That being said, those who know the people involved in this case, are anxiously awaiting the trial and outcome. When reading this and other articles about this case, it seems to be an open and shut case, but when the whole story comes out at trial, I am sure there will be many who see things very differently. Should the teacher be punished? Yes. Is she a threat to society? No not all. Should her life be ruined because of these "accusations"? No way The truth always comes out, and will set a lot of things straight.

  • BleedsBlue Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 27, 2013 6:23 p.m.

    Guess this coach/teacher didn't take it seriously enough when her employer (the school district acting in behalf of the school board) went over basic ethics and asked her to sign that she had heard and understood the policy (Standard practice in local school districts-I know, I am an employee.) No sexual contact between teachers and students, period. Doesn't matter if the student was one of hers or not. It would be crazy for it to be explained away because they were "in love." The fact that she told the student that it could not become known that they had a relationship shows that she knew she was violating the rules. Don't let her anywhere near students ever again. It makes me sick that fellow educators are sometimes guilty of this kind of misconduct.

  • Miss Piggie Pheonix, AZ
    Aug. 27, 2013 11:49 p.m.

    @JBT:
    "Observenator - I noticed the same thing... The tone of most comments seem to indicate people in general are 'okay' with this relationship.. Unbelievable."

    These two gals are apparently attracted to each other... which, in our society seems to be OK. As reported in the DNews and elsewhere, same sex marriages are becoming the norm across the country. And, as someone has already posted, the age difference have to greater than ten years (which it is not) for the law to be violated. There is no case here. The judicial system is just trying to ruin these two peoples' lives. What two (or any number of) people do in the privacy of there own homes (apartments) is none of the state's business.

  • 483bzac West Valley City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2013 12:15 a.m.

    A school teacher is a position of trust. Change the sexes of this incidence and you change many attitudes. ERA for men too!

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Aug. 31, 2013 6:17 p.m.

    What needs to happen here is that the County Attorney charges felonies across the board, accepts no plea down type of bargains to see that this "coach" gets the maximum possible sentence. A message needs to be sent that this is just as intolerable as any unlawful relationship regardless of gender.

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2013 3:34 p.m.

    A little off topic, but relevant. While I do not condone this behavior, the "victim" was 17. We charge 17 year olds and younger as adults with murder all the time, because we feel they have the mental capacity to distinguish between right and wrong. So why don't we treat 17 year old "victims" the same way? Are we saying, they are old enough to murder someone, but not old enough on who they will have sex with? It is inconsistent. In the story, the "victim" said she knew it was wrong but "didn't care".

  • Cap'n Parrotdead Onalaska, WA
    Sept. 27, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    So two people who were 17 and 22 had a consentual relationship and that's rape? If they'd waitied until she turned 18, it would all be hunk dory. I don't get it.