There is a positive spin on Utah having to play Stanford and Oregon this year.
It couldn't be much worse than the record they had the last couple years
against Cal & Washington (1-3...0-2 in 2011). So the record shouldn't
be any different than it was in 2011 losing both games to the teams Stanford and
Oregon are replacing. So get it done utes...7-5 is possible, make it happen.
Best of luck, I'll be pulling for U...except the 21st of course.
Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as tough as that is. PAC 12 teams have PAC 12 athletes. Each year we are getting
more PAC 12 talent that is replacing Mwc kids. Every year since our
PAC 12 invite our recruiting has INCREASED, both in average stars AND better
head to head recruiting against the other in state schools. That is
exactly what we knew would happen as the PAC 12 is better and better athletes
want to play on better conferences with better teams and better teammates. Coincidence we have beat byu and usu in recruiting every year since our
invite?Nope!Point is, it's going just as Kyle has
said it would. 100% behind Kyle!8-4 season and as good a
chance at PAC 12 title game as anyone in south. Only Colorado
doesn't have a chance. Mark that down, 8-4
It's tough being in the second best league in the nation.But
it's a challenge we welcome!We all knew it would take a few
years to improve recruiting That has happened. Thanks to our
prestigious conference invite. And winning prestigious bowl games and finishing
with the best record in the country. I think this is the year we
prove we belong and will be a force in the PAC 12 8-4 season. And the non-power conference teams in Utah will continue to be jealous
of our power conference membership!We own byu and usu thinks a
single win is equal to our 15 game domination over them!
Having Standford and the Ducks may be more difficult, but the Utes only managed
1 win and 3 losses against Cal and Washington. Lose by 19 to the Huskies or 90
to Oregon, a loss is still a loss on the record.
Wow, this will be the 5th comment posted, and there has been no ridiculous
nonsense bantering from opposing fans. Cougsndawgs, thanks for your nice post.
Chris B, I admire your optimism and boy do I hope your right! In my
opinion, it's sad to say, but considering last year, and the schedule this
year, 6-6 would be a success. I am counting on 7-5 and agree with Chris B that
8-4 is possible. I really think that in year 3 we REALLY need a staple Pac12
win. I think our best chance at that is Stanford at home. That's a lofty
goal, but I think it's possible. And that is the kind of win we need to
show that we belong
I, too, agree that an 8-4 season is possible. Lost in the discussion of last
year's season is the fact that the Utes' quarterback situation was
disastrous. Coach Whitt had put all of his faith in a healthy Wynn, the same
guy who had led Utah to a Poinsettia Bowl win over now-fellow PAC 12 member Cal.
After Wynn went down once and for all, we were left with no real QB-in
-waiting. We still could have won 8-10 games in the MWC, but not in the PAC 12.
But Utah has more talent and depth at quarterback now than I've ever seen.
(Can't wait for both Manning and Cox to get their chance some day). And
there's a ton of talent in the running backs and receiving corps. I just
hope that the D can come through. Reilly, Orchard, Blechen, and Rowe have all
got to step up. If these things can come together, and we can avoid major
injuries, I don't think 8-4 is unrealistic at all.Go Utes!
It all depends on Erickson and Wilson. If they can get the offense to perform
as a top 50 offense then I think we have a chance at 8-4.Wins: CU
and Weber StateShould win: USU, @BYU, @WSUToss up: OSU, UCLA, ASUMost likely loses: @USC, @UALoses: Standford, @OregonI
think after Thursdays game we'll know if this is an 8-4 team or not.Go UTES!!
christy"Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as
tough as that is."LOL at your desperate attempt to rewrite
history. Here's what you really thought:Chris B9:04 p.m.
Sept. 11, 2011"Let's consider chances of going to a BCS
bowl: Pac 12 tournament of championsDon't play OregonDon't play StanfordUSC can't go to Pac 12 championship game1 of 2 best teams in DivisionChances of BCS Rose Bowl: Utah 40%;
Oregon 60%"Two years ago, you predicted that the Utes were only
slightly less than a coin flip away from playing in the Rose Bowl.
Uteology:You honestly think USU & BYU are "should wins"? Both
are ranked ahead of Utah, and USU beat Utah last year & has 18 returning
starters, while BYU was a FG away from taking the utes to OT at RES, while this
year the game is in Provo. I would label those as toss-up games along with OSU
& UCLA. I would also put ASU as a "most likely loss" because Utah
has yet to be competitive with them on the field. Other than that I think the
rest of your list is accurate, though I have gone on record before, and again
now, as saying Utah will upset Stanford at RES this year. I think that's a
favorable matchup for the utes with upset written all over it. Cheers.
Cougsndawgs, I would place USU and BYU as somewhere between "should win"
and "toss up" for Utah, assuming a healthy, intact Utah team. Last year,
a couple injuries and an ejection at USU played a key role in USU's OT win,
and those same injuries, along with a couple more, hurt the Utes against BYU.
BYU should be slightly improved this year, as should Utah, but both teams'
records at the end of the year may not reflect it.
I agree that both USU and BYU should be in the "should win" column. We
are favored over USU and we have had byu's number. If we beat USU, as I
think we should, we will likely be favored over the cougs. The only part of
Uteology's list that I would change is swapping ASU and UA. ASU has owned
us, and they return Taylor Kelly. Although I admit I'm a bit scared to face
Rich Rod in his second year, they've got a new QB, and I think that will be
the difference. (Side note: I recently rewatched last years UA game. Man
we should have won that!!)
Uteanymous, two years ago the utes were a touchdown away from playing in the pac
12 championship. Chrissy's prediction was pretty darn close (except the BCS
bowl part. Are you trying to give him credence?Utes have
a chance to win most games. Only Oregon is really out of reach barring Duck
injuries.No one really knows how this team will perform, just like
the first year in the PAC. Which is exactly why Chris's prediction in 2011
was pretty darn good.
"PAC 12" is an excuse I don't think Whitt deserves. The cupboard
was bare the last two years at running back and backup QB. John White emerging
was an absolute miracle (aided by a great OC), and the lack of a backup is the
coach's recruiting fault. (shouldn't he have been able to recruit a
few Qbs to a BCS Bowl/PAC 12 school?If the Utes don't show real
improvement, KW should be gone.
Chris has a bad memory. He predicted greatness right away. I know, I wrote it
down. I'm afraid we are looking at 3-9 this year.
"...Blechen...".The UTES counted on "...Blechen..."
last year...Then found out he had his mind on something else...Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice shame on me.When
you have 11 guys on the field and 10 are wondering if the 11th guy has
anybody's back...the defense will continue to look like it did
"Out first two years have been EXACTLY as we thought, as tough as that
is."A blatant out and out lie. LOL at your failed
attempt at your remedial U of U Revisionist History class assignment.The general consensus of the majority of Ute fans at the time of the
invitation was that the Utes would compete immediately and that Rose Bowling was
imminent.Losing to Colorado and the circumstances around that
'golden' opportunity in 2011 were based on other team's
performance issues. A 7-5 overall record and a 4-5 conference record is not what
we call competing in a conference. Year two was worse.Only after two seasons of sub-par conference performance and no-bowling last
year has the dialog changed to "it's going to take some time".LOL
Your funny Chris B and the rest of the Ute fans. Haven't ever commented on
a solely Ute article, but couldn't help but laugh my head off when I saw
Chris B. predict an 8-4 year. I personally hope they do well, I like Kyle and
don't want him on the hot seat. Also it makes a cougar victory that much
sweeter over a good Ute team and not a bad Ute team. Good luck Utes!!
sammyg"The general consensus of the majority of Ute fans at the
time of the invitation was that the Utes would compete immediately and that Rose
Bowling was imminent."You're absolutely correct. Two years
ago, the general consensus amongst the majority of Utah fans was that
Utah's BCS bowl win over Alabama had proven that the Utes could compete
with anybody and, therefore, the Utes would be instantly competitive in the PAC,
with Rose Bowls imminent. Utah fans brushed aside as ludicrous every BYU
fan's suggestion that the Utes could be the next Arizona, 30 years in the
PAC and still no Rose Bowl.It wasn't until the Utes were beat
down by every PAC team with a winning record that they played in their first two
years, and their disastrous losing, bowl-less season, that Utah fans adopted
their new "it's going to take some time" narrative.
UteologyYour groupings are a bit off.Here's the
true order:Wins: Weber StateShould win: CU and @WSUToss
up: USUMost likely loses: @USC, @UA, @BYU, OSU, UCLA, ASULoses:
Stanford, @OregonLikely 4-8, but could be 3-9 or 5-7
The hard reality for Utah fans is the Utes could have a better team this season,
and still finish with the same record as last season, or worse.Same
thing is true of BYU, although BYU should win their game on September 21st.
Uteanaonymous,Yes, and our FIRST year we WERE just a field goal away
from the Pac 12 title game!LOLI was right.We
were INCHES away!
Wait, is cris talking about inches?? haha that is very fitting because 2 of the
last 3 byu/utah games have been inches but to cris they have been blowouts!!
LOVE the trollers!Can't wait for Thursday! Then it all can be
played out on the field instead of on Utah stories. But, while I'm being
entertained:@Funny/witty screen name - "2 of the last 3 byu/utah
games have been inches"2 of the last three years? One of those
years was a blocked field goal. Your Payne brought us joy! If you count
blocked field goals, then Utah should get to count the USC game too, AT USC. A
made field goal there gives Utah a huge win. But, it doesn't matter, does
it. Utah lost that game, just like byU lost three straight (including the
infamous 54-10 with free turnovers). But, byU "fans" will never give
credit to Utah for any of the three straight wins, or 4 of 5, or 8 of 11, or 13
of 20 ..... I wonder what the excuse will be from little brother down south
when Utah goes four straight on 9/21?Go Utes!! Onward and Upward!!
@Cougsndawgs So you are saying we can't compete with ASU
because they have dominated us head-to-head but head-to-head doesn't count
against BYU and USU?* We "should win" USU considering
it's @RES and our 5-7 team barley lost with a D2 QB on the road last
year.* We "should win" BYU considering we have no problem
competing against BYU.* The ASU game is a "toss up" because
I'm expecting an Elite 11 QB to play better than a D2 QB the last time
these two teams met at RES:"Arizona State was forcing turnovers
so quickly in the second half, trainers didn't even have time to get the
blood off Brock Osweiler's jersey...Three Utah turnovers on consecutive
possessions late in the third quarter and beginning of the fourth helped turn a
close game into 35-14 victory for No. 22 Arizona State."
I watched the PAC 12 network over the week end since there wasn't anything
else on. They replayed only meaningful games, in other words, non of them
featured Utah. In the player profiles during game breaks there were no Utah
profiles in the games I watched. Yep, the PAC 12 really is glad Utah joined.
Just gives the big boys one more game to beat up on someone.
@scenic view:We'd much prefer a "beat down" (a
last-second blocked field goal away from beating SC on their field), to a LES
triumph over the lowly Idaho State Vandals ANY DAY!!! Seriously, you
shouldn't even be proud of your TDS team with wins against such laughable
opponents!TDS campus banter: "Did you see the game last
night?" "What game, Real Salt Lake?" "No, our beat down of the
mighty Vandals!" "Seriously?! I thought that was just a JV game!"
(Our only laughable game is September 7th! And believe me, I'll be the
first to stand and applaud IF Weber State successfully crosses the 50 yard
line!) And to all TDS fans - cease and desist all the "We're going to
win a national championship this year!" gibberish, let alone "Tradition,
Spirit, Honor" hokey jersey monikers, when getting past Virginia (a horrible
team) should be priority #1! GO UTES
Danish American:But Utah is still very important to YOU, that is
what is most important. We just have to make sure that all our Utah County
followers are happy! I mean, what would Utah do without your support and your
attention? We would be devastated!Thanks for proving your loyalty
to the Ute program by posting on a Utah story. We'll make sure you get
your free turnovers once again this year! We aim to please!Go
Utes!! Onward and Upward!!
Hopefully Whittingham is renting his home.
Adding Utah, and Colorado isn't improving the conference, but does add an
extra wins for teams qualifying for bowl games.Guess that could be
christy"Yes, and our FIRST year we WERE just a field goal away
from the Pac 12 title game!"Nope! You were a FG away from a
tying a game that U would have lost in OT.You had already burned
your "one time" the week before when you barely squeaked past lowly
Washington State by a FG in OT.
christy is obviously living under the delusion that MISSING a potentially
game-tying FG is the same as winning a game.Not only did USC BLOCK
Utah's futile last second FG try, the Trojans returned it for a touchdown
to win going away 23-14.Remind us against how many AP Top 25 teams
you beat last season...sorry, barely squeaking past Bottom 25
11-loss Colorado 42-35 in the annual "pillow fight in the Rockies",
Chris, I am going to have to call you out on this one. You should try to
remember your predictions from last year and the year before where you said Utah
would win the south and play for the conference championship. Try to be honest
with yourself and with the rest of us fans. You give us a black eye and are not
a good ambassador of the Utes.
@talkinsportsRemind us against how many AP Top 25 teams you beat
last season?-----------The same as you did in 1984.
To all coug fans, this mediocre team you speak of is the same team that has
dominated you over the last decade. Before you come back with how competitive
things have been, save it. The fact is, the game is either close or it is a Utah
“big-time football at its finest.” No - it's more
like "body-bag football at its finest." Utah plays games that it has no
chance of winning for money.