Being more of a Basketball fan than a football fan...I can't
wait for b-ball now either.
WCC is weak! Adding Pacific helps at most marginally. BYU needs to upgrade its
non-conference schedule even more to compensate for all of the RPI 100+ games
that they will get from conference play.
caleb in new yorkBYU's schedule is good enough to get a good
seed in the NCAA tournament if BYU does well. And giving yourself a decent
chance for success in the tournament is really all that matters as far as post
season success is concerned.
The WCC! I laugh every time I remember that's where byu was relegated to.
Nothing like saying "we're the 3rd best team in the ninth
best conference in the nation"LOL!
And how exactly does being the tenth best team in the 6th best conference trump
being the third best team in the ninth best conference?
@ Chris BSo how did the U do against BYU last year, and the year
before, and the year before that?He who laughs last...
@Riddles"BYU needs to upgrade its non-conference schedule even more to
compensate for all of the RPI 100+ games that they will get from conference
play."10 in-conference games against teams that finished 101+ in
the RPI and 8 against teams between 1-100 (including 4 against the RPI top-30).
Not great, but better than you are making it out to be. As for the
non-conference, there are an additional 5 or 6 (depending on the result of the
UT game) games against RPI top-100 in the non-conference.RPI Rank --
# On Sched -- Teams1-25 -- 2 -- Gonzaga (6)26-50 -- 4 (5) -- OR (47)
and IA State (45), possibly Wich State ), St Mary's (29)51-100 --
7 -- Weber (85), Stanford (77), Pacific (99), Santa Clara (100) and UMass
(56)101-200 -- 7 -- Utah (162), Utah State (109), San Diego (165), USF
(167) and Texas (116)200+ -- 10 (11) -- PV A&M (314), UNT (246), LMU
(211), Pepp (212), Portland (232) (possibly 2 in CBE and DePaul )This is not a bad schedule, sorry.
WisCougThat comment was from caleb, not Riddles.I agree
with you; BYU's schedule is good enough that if BYU does well, 25+ wins
with multiple wins against RPI 1-100 teams, and a 2nd place finish in the WCC,
they'll be in line for a decent seed in the tournament; if BYU does great,
with a WCC championship and a 30+ win regular season, they'll be in line
for a Top 16 seed.
Unfortunately, little sister, BYU owns us in basketball.7 in a row,
11 of the last 12, 149-145 overall, 76% to 46% winning percentage, 8 20-win
seasons to only 1, 6 NCAAs to only 1 during the Dave Rose era.BYU is
an improving national player; Utah is a washed-up has been.Has any
PAC 12 team played in 6 of the last 8 NCAAs like BYU has?
34,000 student university whose "fans" boast of national caliber
facilities. Their football team is relegated to scheduling 2 for 1's and
their Olympic sports are relegated to playing in HS like gymnasiums on the road.
Chris BIts better than being a ute in whatever situation u find
yourself in.What are you last in the conference? I don't even
know. No check that I don't care.I would rather be a BYU fan
than a u fan for any sport, wherever, whenever, or whoever they play.I would also rather be an ASU fan, Boise State fan, UVU fan, and USU fan
before I even entertained being a u fan.Then I would have to go
through the other five schools I have connections with...then I may
consider being a u fan...No, not even then.
I disagree with those who think BYU's b-ball schedule is good enough and I
can't wait to get out of the WCC.The problem the Cougs have is
that they don't play good enough teams during the season and when the get
into the post season they simply aren't ready. They rush their shots, they
have too many turnovers, they get nervous frankly and they panic. They get
"sped up" and they can't slow themselves down. The game just
happens too quickly for them.They simply must play better
competition to get used to the speed and quickness that they will see in the
post season. They need to learn how quickly defenders from the best programs
can close-out on shots - how quickly they can fill in lanes - how quickly the
get to loose balls etc. Each year there are 32 teams that win in
the now second round of the NCAA tournament. We should be one of those teams
every year. It shouldn't be too hard to find 10 mormon kids who can play.
As an aside - Coach Rose is awesome - he should make millions per
year - pay the man more.
ekuteWhat's really embarrassing, is a once proud basketball
program, that plays in front of a vast sea of empty red chairs, loses to teams
like Sacramento State, Southern Methodist, Montana State, and UNC Ashville, only
has a 46% winning percentage for the last eight seasons, and hasn't won a
single NCAA tournament game in almost a decade.Almost as
embarrassing, is a former "bcs buster" that can't even beat the
lone WAC team on their schedule to qualify for a bowl.
Utah....the 15th best basketball team in the state. And what's is even
worse is that the PAC-12 doesn't even make them take down those banners
around SLC during BBall season. They keep playing like they have the past
several years and you will see that happen.
The RockFederal Way, WAObviously to not be hypocritical, this
also applies to football right?9 of the last 12 and 3 in a row for
@ ManInTheMiddle:Since you obviously have all the answers to
improving the Y's already very good basketball program, perhaps they should
just fire Rose and hire you, so you could find those "10 Mormon kids who can
play". Then it would be you could be making all those $millions per year you
54-IQUnlike Utah's flash-in-the-pan football success,
BYU's recent domination of Utah in basketball isn't just confined to a
handful of head-to-head games and a couple of bowls, it's been across the
board, in national rankings, consensus POY awards, post season tournaments,
conference championships, and overall record.
BYU to play a home-and-home with San Jose State in 2015 and 2017.BYU
doesn't have the luxury of playing Colorado and Washington State every
year, so the Cougars have to sprinkle in teams like San Jose State to round out
their schedule.This will be a great opportunity for BYU's Bay
Area fans and recruits to attend a BYU football game.San Jose State
also announced a home-and-home with Oregon State today.
@ ekute and Chris B:If you really want to know what embarrassing is,
consider the fact that the basketball team you are disparaging has been totally
dominating your Utes for an entire decade. Now that truly should embarrass you.
Common sense would dictate that you build up as much as possible any team you
simply can't beat. In this case, that would be the Y. As such, try not to
embarrass yourselves any further. Chris... that also means the big LOL you thru
out is actually on you... another crimson embarrassment. @
54-10:In case you hadn't noticed, this particular article is
actually about basketball... not football. We all realize the U hasn't got
much to tout about when it comes to basketball, but when someone tries to
deflect that to another sport in the middle of a online conversation, it makes
that person seem pretty desperate.
Gonzaga is going to be much worse this year. They'll maybe be 40 to 50 in
RPI. St. Mary's is going to be worse. This is probably not that much
worse than BYU's traditional WAC or MWC schedules. But having +200
in-conference games is disappointing. I don't expect BYU to be that
amazing this year so the schedule will work out just fine for them, but its just
a real-boring conference when the 3rd and 4th best matchups (Santa Clara and
Pacific) will be borderline top 100. When the top recruiting classes start
coming home from their missions it would be nice if they upgrade the
non-conference schedule. If they have to, they need to play one-offs at the
home stadiums of some top 25 teams. try to get more home and homes with the MWC
The last two years, New Mexico (my hometown team) had a better team than BYU,
but I became a rabid BYU fan in that time. Why? Because I could watch almost
all of their games on TV! I don't care if they play in those glorified
high-school gyms in the WCC, as long as I get to watch the games. And, with all
those good recruits coming in--despite the fact that it's hard to tell who
will be on a mission and when--I like the Cougs' prospects in the next few