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Utah Sen. Mike Lee dismisses Mitt Romney criticism on defunding health care

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  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    Aug. 7, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Obamacare is a trainwreck already and it punishes the married middle class and rewards the unmarried middle class. It is an extra strain on every budget except of course the rich and the poor (as usual). $600 a month to pay for health care for a 3 member family is ludacris.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:04 p.m.

    Proves what many of us have known all along...

    Mike Lee is not only out of touch with America in general,
    he's not even on the same page with the even smaller 36% of the population's Republican Party.

    If Republicans can't agree amongst themselves...
    Then why on earth should the remaining 64% of us agree and vote for any of them either?

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    Romney? Lee? Romney? Lee? hmmmmm Who ya gonna trust?

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:10 p.m.

    "our party would suffer in the elections"
    Party before Country. That's the problem.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:16 p.m.

    It's NOT Mike Lee who is out touch,

    but the GOP establishment and washington DC who is out of touch with the American people.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:24 p.m.

    @BYR 5:08 p.m. Aug. 7, 2013

    Romney? Lee? Romney? Lee? hmmmmm Who ya gonna trust?

    --------------------------

    That's easy. Neither of them. I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Aug. 7, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    Now that he's not running for anything Romney is beginning to make sense again. Now see if you can get the House to do something other than voting to repeal Obamacare 41 times.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    "It's not clear how Lee will benefit from his push to defund Obamacare, Burbank said."

    Maybe Lee isn't doing this for his own benefit, maybe he's doing it because it is the right thing to do. I realize that is a foreign concept to politicians and their followers, to whom this is all a game. For those of who who stand to lose the most if Obamacare stands, this is real life.

    He follows through on this and he has my vote again!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 6:56 p.m.

    Most Americans don't want Obamacare.
    Most certainly most Utahns don't want Obamacare.
    So why is it so troubling to Romney and the pundits that Lee is trying to DO something about it?
    I didn't hear Mitt give any suggestions about other ways to stop the train wreck.
    If allowed to be implemented it will become another Medicaid (or Medicare or prescription drug plan or Social Security). It will cost too much, be unsustainable and not achieve the intended result.
    We don't need another Federal Oops! program.

  • Pragmatic Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 7:17 p.m.

    Romney needs to run against Mike Lee. He might win that one!

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 7:27 p.m.

    To Bramabull: I am sorry to tell you but you are out of touch my friend. Go try and purchase a private plan for a family, the cost for a VERY HIGH DEDUCTIBLE plan will be more like $900.00 a month. $600.00 a month is a bargain given the coverage it provides. That is one of the reasons why Obamacare makes sense because for a lot of people it will make insurance more affordable!. As for Senator Lee's position on this - it is nonsense in the highest degree. He is another man who believes that fundamental healthcare for Americans is a priviledge for elected officials, those with good jobs and the wealthy. There are many working poor and even those with good jobs whose employers don't provide decent insurance. Those folks and others may be suffering immensely or even dying before they seek healthcare due to the ridiculous fees the doctors and hospitals charge. Heaven help us if we don't see some serious healthcare reform in this country. Obamacare is a step in the right direction. Senator Lee, you are an embarrassment to the values that you profess to believe.

  • woolybruce Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 7, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    In 1960, Healthcare was less than 5% of GDP. Before Obamacare healthcare was 17% of GDP. We have a problem. Medical Insurance IS socialize medicine as it separates the consumer from the provider. Left to its own Health Insurance will consume everything. Who originated Obamacare? A CONSERVATIVE think tank that was endorsed by the Republicans in the 1990s. Obamacare should be called RepublicanCare. Who else would mandate that everyone participate in Health Insurance that continues to offer Executives Millions of dollars in bonuses. And what is Lee's solution? NOTHING except whining about defunding the Government. Where is Bob Bennett?

  • infiniti salt lake city, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    Remember Bob Bennett? It's issues and times like these that we need a statesman not an ideologue. I just hope we voters remember times like this when it is time to vote for new senator that can truly represent Utah and the US.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 10:40 p.m.

    "...Utah Sen. Mike Lee dismisses Mitt Romney...".

    A BIG endorsement for the political future of Mitt Romney.

  • Luke Nelson West Valley City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    The cause is just, but the methodology is foolish.

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:15 p.m.

    ....and farther down, down the road to oblivion go the Republican Tea Partiers.
    Not too long from now, they will be completely out of sight.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Aug. 7, 2013 11:18 p.m.

    The ACA was recently the topic of discussion at work. Everyone present was opposed to the ACA. However everyone present admitted there are parts of the ACA they agreed with and supported. A closed friend has cancer. Five thousand a month for a single shot. $300.00 a month out of his own pocket. Imagine if he lost his employment and health care. Without the ACA my friend would be uninsurable and given a death sentence. Come on Republicans. If you detest the ACA so much come up with a better alternative.

  • The Judge Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 12:32 a.m.

    Yeah, I remember Bob Bennett...the guy who, in conjunction with his big government buddy Orrin gave us a trillion dollar deficit, TARP, no budget, no principles...

    Bob Bennett lost because those who've become involved in Utah politics decided we wanted a conservative representing us, not a big government guy. Wake up, people. Guys like Mitt Romney, John McCain and other establishment republicans lose elections because they don't stand for anything. They try to out-liberal the liberals.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Aug. 8, 2013 4:38 a.m.

    Note to Mitt Romney: when you get beaten in a presidential election as badly as you did, it's time to keep quiet and let the serious leaders take over.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Aug. 8, 2013 4:50 a.m.

    Obamacare does NOTHING meaningful to reduce the cost of health care but adds plenty of job-destroying, economic growth-impairing regulatory burden to American businesses. It is completely unconstitutional, forcing millions of Americans to purchase a service that they don't want, don't need and can't afford against their will. It greatly expands power & influence of government in the private personal lives of American citizens and gives an already abusive IRS even more power to harass and intimidate honest, hard-working, law-abiding citizens that refuse to embrace Obama's socialist dogma. And it cuts pay of doctors over time, ensuring that eventually we will face a crisis of lack of access to medical CARE—not just insurance—in the United States the same way that Canada, the UK, and elsewhere that try government-run health care schemes do. It is a total monstrosity and the ones who are truly misinformed and out of touch are Romney and his RINO/Democrat supporters, who gobble up everything the government feeds them through the media, not patriots like Mike Lee.

    And the fact that Republicans came up with it only proves how corrupt the GOP has become.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 6:01 a.m.

    Oh, Utah, what have you done? When Lee comes up for re-election, you have the opportunity to fix your mistake.

  • Paul Scholes Provo, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 7:13 a.m.

    I side with Mitt Romney on this one. I think Mike Lee could do a better job of representing Utah by working to bring both sides of the aisle together in a way that would benefit the public. He will not have my vote again if he continues to push divisiveness.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    And Mike Lee's plan for healthcare in America is what? He's been in office over two years now and he and his cronies have had time to propose a better solution, a more cost effective plan, a more compassionate option. Where's the Republican plan?

    All I hear is crickets chirping when I ask that question.

  • hnoel Layton, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    To the Judge who wrote...."Bob Bennett lost because those who've become involved in Utah politics decided we wanted a conservative representing us, not a big government guy. " Sorry. Bob Bennett lost because a fringe minority organized and used our terrible caucus system to override the will of the majority in an election. Had Lee been forced to meet Bennett in a primary, we would still be represented by Bennett, and at least from his point something might be getting done. We can only hope that Mr. Lee has a viable primary opponent next time. If not in the primary, that the Democrats put up a viable person. It has become painfully clear that party politics must be trumped by actually taking care of the country's business. Bless Jon Huntsman and his crew for the "No Labels" movement. We can pray it pushes movements like Freedomworks, the Eagle Forum and other far right and left movements, to the background.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    Aug. 8, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    Good 'Ole Mike Lee

    Senator Fiscally Conservative ForeClosure...

    Funny for HIM to be lecturing US to shutdown the Government for not paying the bills.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    Mike Lee plans damage Americans, particularly the middle class. I don't like his idea that we should be testing nuclear weapons and I do not like his plan to remove government funding of the Affordable Care Act. IF his plan to hold the middle class hostage works, not only will insurance for those who had access to it before the law double in cost, our entire economy would take a slide as investments such as the stock market would crash. I can't afford to have Mike Lee's extremism steal my retirement away.

    Why do we tolerate extremists in America? Why do we vote for extremists like Mike Lee here in Utah when conservatives and moderate choices exist? Its just baffling to me. Extremists on both sides of the political spectrum have destroyed the American dream, made us vulnerable to terrorism and squandered our children's educational future away. We need more normal people in politics that only want to serve those they are to represent.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 8:42 a.m.

    "CHS 85" hits it on the head. Lee and the GOP have been telling us they want to replace Obamacare, but other than platitudes and slogans, they have never presented a concrete proposal. Where are their ideas? What is their solution? What legislative initiatives have they offered except 40 votes to repeal? How will they solve the health care mess that we have, that has our costs at the highest level in the world and near thrid world results? I see nothing from them, absolutely nothing. No more talking points. Put it on the line, GOP. But you have nothing.

  • Hoosier Hot Shot Indianapolis, IN
    Aug. 8, 2013 9:07 a.m.

    So we have Medicare, a government endorsed plan. Great.I have a Medicare supplement that costs a mere $250 a month and it pays everything. What's wrong with that? What would ObamaCare do for me? Nothing that I can see.

    Wonder if Mike Lee and other Tea Partiers might take the lead in denounce the elitism of Congress and other leadership, renounce favoritsm of all kinds and boldly go where no one has gone before?

  • andyjaggy American Fork, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 9:13 a.m.

    I agree let's defund the Government, let's start with Mike Lee's paycheck, generous pensions and retirement benefits. Then let's make him pay back the amount that he stuck the tax payers with when he foreclosed on his half million dollar home and put that money towards the national debt.

    I'm all for getting rid of the ACA, but I would like to actually hear a solution for what the Republicans plan on doing to fix our health care mess... I have yet to see the Republicans proposing any ideas, it seems they are content to waste their time by repealing the ACA 40 times.

  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    re: BYR

    Richard Pryor in Brewster's Millions summed it up best. "None of the above"

  • perhaps Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    How often do you get to see two former BUY student body presidents arguing in public?

    Is this foreshadowing a Lee versus Romney(not Mitt) primary in 2016?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Aug. 8, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    "This is not a left vs. right issue. It is Washington and the politically powerful vs. the people," the state's junior senator said.
    ______________________________

    Deja vu all over again, as Yogi Berra famously observed. So now Mitt Romney is the voice of the Washington establishment, is he? At least we know that Mike Lee intends to keep the narrative on dead center. As long as the right wing is thus stuck in one place, it's got a long way to go before it has anything fresh to offer in the way of ideas.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Republicans do NOT have to come up with an alternative plan to the horrible and expensive Obamacare.

    It is NOT the job of the federal government to take care of your personal health.

    That is your responsibility as an individual and as a citizen.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 10:52 a.m.

    @the truth

    "Republicans do NOT have to come up with an alternative plan to the horrible and expensive Obamacare."

    You go ahead and keep believing that. I'm sure you have insurance or have the means and ability to get health insurance.

    Now have a pre-existing condition and try to get an individual insurance plan and let me know how that works for you. I've seen family members denied insurance because one of their kids has cerebral palsy. I guess they are less deserving of medical care than healthy people, right? My brother exceeded his million dollar cap for his cancer treatments. Now that he is dead, his wife is being threatened with losing everything they owned jointly together as the hospital attempts to seize his estate for payment. I guess it is just his fault for getting sick. Why does his wife and kids need a place to live? Who cares? Certainly not Mike Lee or his friends.

    Emergency room medicine and bankruptcy. That the "compassionate conservative" plan for healthcare.

    If you think healthcare isn't a national issue, you are beyond naive.

  • daver Provo, 00
    Aug. 8, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    Mike Lee is not out of touch with ME and that's what I care about. His is the only office out of our two senators, that shows respect for my wishes, when I call in to express opinions. Hatch, on the other hand, has become a law unto himself and shows intractable arrogance as he rubber stamps the liberal agenda in immigration and elsewhere.

  • jam23 Ammon, ID
    Aug. 8, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    Lee's position makes a lot of sense. Romney may not be following it that closely. Obama came down with his changes to implementation of the Obamacare program, which he has no legal authority to do. If the program is being altered by an illegal process, it makes total sense to withold the funding. That in addition to it being one of the poorest pieces of legislation ever, which was passed in contradiction to the promises made by the President of full disclosure and open debate to formulate the new program.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 1:01 p.m.

    Mike Lee is an excellent senator. He is a mainstream Utah conservative Republican. It is the University Professors, the Chamber of Commeerce liberal Republicans that are completely out of touch with the residents of Utah. The people who work for a living and have to meet a mortgage and put food on the table completely relate to Senator Mike Lee. He uses common sense and the tagging him with tea party support is ridiculous, those are just political active citizens who liberals hate because they made a big difference in the 2010 elections. Obama and his ilk have sent the IRS after them and perhaps the FEC. Romney was a great candidate and he may have won Florida, Virginia and Ohio were not for IRS targeting. Lee and Romney are basically on the same page, a few eliltes don't want them to be.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    @CHS 85

    I do not have insurance nor have the means and ability to get health insurance.

    But I still do not believe it is the responsibility of the federal government to take care of me.

    And no hospital or doctor has refused me the care that I need.

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    What Romney and other moderate Republicans are forgetting is that the Affordable Care Act, if allowed to be fully implemented, will permanently harm America and Americans. It isn't just socialism; it is totalitarian tyranny. It will put an end to the best medical care on the planet in favor of micro-managed, rationed, and distributed health care weighed by committee without regard to convenience, self-determination, or long-standing patient/doctor relationships.

    The years I spent living in Canada has convinced me that we will never get back to health care as we have known it once we kill it with the ACA. You wouldn't believe the horror stories I could tell you about Canadian socialized medicine. You don't want to go there. Any politician who thinks Republican should just let it play out and fail on its own doesn't realize the permanent harm it will do to America and to We the People . . . permanently.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 8, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    honestly I could care less about popularity anymore. You will never win a popularity contest with the democrat's among low information citizens...never !! If you sign on and fund Obamacare then this train wreck is set in stone and you STILL have no support among the Obamacare crowd so who cares!!!! Senator Lee is speaking practically and suggesting that the ONLY way left to stop Obamacare is to not fund it and he is correct. Who cares what propoganda Barack and his crowd of Communists throw out there ... it will happen regardless. It is time to stand firm and not compromise with the devil.
    Compromise with the devil is always a losing proposition. Always!!! Let em shut down the government ...it will be Barack that shuts it down not Mike. Mike is already said he will fund everything BUT Obamacare and Obamacare is already forecast as an economy killer by both the GOP and the Democrats.

  • mattrick78 Cedar City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2013 1:00 a.m.

    Senator Lee should read Robert Caro's "Master of the Senate" and he would realize there is no point fighting battles you have a no chance of winning let alone make you look foolish.

    We need more statesmen in Congress not grand-standers.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 9, 2013 3:53 a.m.

    The extreme tea party gets criticized by candidate who was too far to the right. Only the right wing bloggers support the tea party obstruction and unpatriotic mentality.

  • mrjj69 bountiful, UT
    Aug. 9, 2013 5:53 a.m.

    mitt romneys Massachusetts health care is identical to obama care.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Aug. 9, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Good job Mike Lee. We need people back there who actually represent the interests and needs of a working, tax-paying people. We've had too many who have played footsie with those who want ALL our resources and freedoms for too long, and look what it's done to us. That nearly $17,000,000,000,000 immediate Federal deficit isn't going to miraculously and spontaneously dissolve, and even though the central planners deny it, Obeymecare has disaster written all over it.

  • mancan HC, UT
    Aug. 9, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    I don't know if there is any truth to it, but a former roommate told me that Mitt and Ann are building a home in Sandy. If it is true, it creates an interesting possibility. I am sorely disappointed that Mitt lost in November. We all know what a great job he did for us with the Olympics and many feel he would have done great things for America if he had beaten Pres. Obama. I still believe America needs Mitt, even if it is just in the Senate. A primary challenge against Sen. Lee would be very interesting. I think there would be very high turnout in the local caucuses, unlike the low turnout that resulted in Sen. Lee getting the nomination over Sen. Bennett. I think all Utahans need to make their voices known that they still want Mitt, anyway, in any capacity to help rebuild America. Mitt wouldn't jump in himself unless we convince him to do it. We need a grassroots effort to get Mitt to be the next Senator to represent Utah. Of course, this all hinges on him actually building that home in Utah.

  • Clydesdale Tooele, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 5:50 p.m.

    "Romney needs to run against Mike Lee. He might win that one!" No he won't. We're all figuring Mitt Romney out. We're dumb, but not that dumb.

  • SquarePeg Enterprise, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 7:05 p.m.

    I admire Mike Lee's courage and integrity. He's not trying to win a popularity contest with this. He's trying to help us be free. From the looks of many of the comments, we may not want freedom as much as we want a hand out.

    Patrick Henry is famous for saying "Give me liberty or give me death." I don't think Obamacare is good for increasing the first nor decreasing the second.

    I'm siding firmly with Mike Lee on this one.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    My healthcare costs have doubled and my out of pocket deductible is now $10,000.... And if I get cancer I get a liberal Washington death panel deciding my fate! Obama promised i could keep mybdoctor and my private insurance if i wanted too, and didn't the liberal loonies laugh at Sara Palin when she warned about death panels? ...well no one is laughing now.....leave it to the left to a psuedo Happy Filner and HUMA Weiner types to be death panel judges,

  • kolob1 sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    Mike Lee has evolved into a far right panderer of fundraising. The first day he went into the Senate he tried to establish a PAC for himself. If I was a Republican I would be on the phone daily to my party leaders complaining about this professional do-nothing".

  • The Big One Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 11, 2013 11:02 p.m.

    Lee dismisses Romney, everyone dismissed Romney in the election, now please Mitt tell them you want to be a mission pres

  • mesasmiles MESA, AZ
    Aug. 12, 2013 9:02 a.m.

    The Republican establishment, of whom Romney is one, is perpetuating this myth that if Republicans stand up to Obama, the party will suffer, and they cite the 1995 government shutdown as evidence. But I remember those days very well. Yes, the media beat up on the Republican party over that shutdown, but in the following election, the Republicans held the house and picked up two seats in the Senate. These squishy moderate Republicans pay too much attention to the media which is why they are so out of touch with the people.

    My suggestion to Romney is that he come up with an alternative strategy before he starts criticizing Mike Lee's plan. He says there's a better way to do this. Really? Then please tell us what it is.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 15, 2013 3:19 a.m.

    Senator Lee is effective in painting the tea party into an extreme right corner. He also is raising money for his re-election?