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Boys, girls may be equal perpetrators of teen dating abuse

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  • Logit ,
    July 31, 2013 5:07 p.m.

    This new survey could be at odds with the one from the National Dating Abuse Helpline because the later survey relied on the proportion of female calls received by the helpline! That is, it wasn't random nor representative. In short, it might be those more likely to phone-in to a teenage abuse helpline are young women; young male victims, by contrast, may internalize the abuse and not phone it in. It's simply not very "cool" or "manly" for a young man to proactively phone a helpline and report that his girlfriend's beating him up. However, a more anonymous, representative sample like this one here from the APA can reveal the more plausible truth.

  • shaun66 mesa, az
    July 31, 2013 8:51 p.m.

    I am sure the feminists are proud!

  • Bebyebe UUU, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 6:33 a.m.

    "...when girl are the perpetrators, they typically lash out with name-calling and hitting. Boys, on the other hand, are much more likely to commit severe sexual and physical assaults."

    Name calling and hitting is not equivalent to severe sexual and physical assaults. This article headline is deliberately misleading.

  • Larceny Rural Hall, USA, NC
    Aug. 1, 2013 6:39 a.m.

    I think the melodramatic photo at the start of this article pretty much sums up the entirety of the content... -_-

  • Christmas Carole LAS CRUCES, NM
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:04 a.m.

    Guys & Gals...If YOU have experienced this situation either on the giving OR receiving end, it is EXTREMELY important to look within yourselves. This type of situation is indicative of problems within ourselves. The pattern will most likely(if not ABSOLUTELY)continue until you have sought for help from the many sources available,(including and especially your Heavenly Father). We are "drawn to" and "attract" those who will either treat us this way or we can treat this way. It's an equally participating "dysfunctional dance". I experienced two disastrous relationships and 57 years before I understood and made changes. With all the help available in today's world if one continues in this pattern then it is out of choice....

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Aug. 1, 2013 8:12 a.m.

    Alfred Adler, the famed psychologist, believed that the defining driving concept in the human is power. Men and women resolve this in different ways. Obviously, women are more emotional and men are more physical. The manipulative nature of women can be used as support or as a way to control their mate. Women are much more prone to be "passive-aggressive" and cause the physical lashing out of the male.

  • John20000 Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    I interpret this data as serious dating happens before teens are mature enough.

  • Christmas Carole LAS CRUCES, NM
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    @JBQ
    I emphatically disagree with the idea that ANYONE else "causes" our behavior! That vein of thinking enables others to hurt someone else and NOT take credit for ones own actions. Our Heavenly Father insured by choosing the Savior that we(and everyone on this earth fought for it)all have the freedom to make our OWN choices, regardless of the situation. I'm not saying passive/aggressive behavior is acceptable or healthy, but I am saying blaming someone ELSE for our choices is unhealthy...

  • sjc layton, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 9:34 a.m.

    Just more proof of the softness of the american male these days

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    @JBQ
    "Women are much more prone to be "passive-aggressive" and cause the physical lashing out of the male."

    Cause? When you read about a rape story is your first thought "what was she wearing?"

  • berlah utah, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and imply the two are equal. No one gets sent to the hospital when they are the recipient of name-calling.

    The title of this article is misleading and creates misinformation.

  • berlah utah, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and promote the idea the two are equal. No one goes to the hospital as a victim of name-calling.

    This article is deliberately misleading and will be passed on as false evidence that the victimization of men and women is equal when it is not.

  • Noogieburger Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 1:15 p.m.

    I find it incredibly curious and fascinating at the same time that as society plods along we are starting to learn that women aren't always perfectly precious. After years of the feminist movement and the destruction of the male influence in society in which women were exalted simply for being women and men were debased simply for being debased, it is good to see that we are starting to reverse that trend. It's a simple fact, really, women aren't perfect. Welcome to the boat of imperfection ladies. Now let's work together to make things right again and treat each other as equals and with respect.

  • advoc8 Smithfield, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    What would it take for the UDVC to not get angry and violent at the truth??? What would it take for the UDVC and media to finally get it, to propose solutions to end as much domestic and partner violence as possible??? Truth would do it, but truth is the only thing more offensive than lies which makes many violent, and call names when truth offends them... Watch and see.

  • advoc8 Smithfield, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    The biggest study on dating violence ever done was a few years ago and the local media ran the story that women were abused, again... Why? Because the UDVC, as usual, lied and changed the real results of that biggest partner dating violence study ever. They refuse to tell us the results, that women abuse/perpetrate more and that roughly an equal number of mutual violence exists. This applies to domestic violence too, roughly equal mutual perps and more female sole perps, initiators. Yet the UDVC and media refuse to report reality, and cause soooo many problems with their agenda. They can stop abuse if they will tell the truth? Does anyone care? What would it take for the media to become honest and jettison the lies of the UDVC, their only source of partner violent info/missinfo?

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 6:35 p.m.

    The article is unclear in many details; this may be skewing the results to equalize male and female abuse or, otoh, to suggest that the female abuse is mainly verbal. Females sometimes sexually abuse, especially nowadays, quite capable of making an unwanted "pass" at a male.

    Back in the Seventies, when everyone was talking about sex abuse, "research" was said to prove that most women were sexually abused. Very few actually read the "research" in detail which defined "abuse" very loosely including verbal nuances, etc, subjective reactions, and lumped it all together with all stated unwanted touching of any degree as "rape". The courts provided novel legal definitions of "rape" to include consensual intimacies between a young couple in which one was from one day to a year or two older, the older being legally adult. So yes, there are agendas and lies in "statistics".

    Other things that skew results are reporting frequency, fraudulent, self-interested, or malicous slanders, and an ugly stereotype of a male as someone who always wants intimacy with any woman without reference to personal taste or morality. Men who are discerning or moral are mocked and disbelieved.

  • TP TWIN FALLS, ID
    Aug. 1, 2013 7:13 p.m.

    There are "passive aggressive relationships" that are just as (or more) damaging as physical violence...and it doesn't leave the kind of scar/mark/proof that you can take a 'photo' of, or show a second party... Abuse of any kind, by any gender is wrong, but not all abuse gets 'equal' attention or the scorn of society.

    I have heard some women say in the face of significant psychological and emotional abuse..."It would be easier if he just 'Hit ME!' Non-physical abuse is much harder to substantiate, validate, and many times 'blurs' the lines of 'what is abuse'?

    Thank you for drawing attention to both sides of the abuse spectrum.

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 1, 2013 7:15 p.m.

    "It is ridiculous to compare name-calling to physical abuse and imply the two are equal. No one gets sent to the hospital when they are the recipient of name-calling."

    So name-calling is good to go then?

    Somehow I get the impression that in your eyes name-calling is abusive only when a man does it; when a woman does it, she's just "blowing off steam" and the guy needs to "man up" and not be so sensitive.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 5, 2013 3:28 p.m.

    "Carlos Cuevas, another presenter at the APA conference, pointed out that when girl are the perpetrators, they typically lash out with name-calling and hitting. Boys, on the other hand, are much more likely to commit severe sexual and physical assaults."

    I'd like to see Cuevas EVIDENCE, rather than an assumption.

    During the OJ Simpson trials, and official from the National Organization for Women wrote to USA to take the opportunity to shine a light on ALL abuse, not just abuse by males, saying, "More abuse is initiated by women and it is MORE violent. How is it more violent? Because women use tools: irons, knifes, hammers, pans, etc. to make up for their inferior size and strength.

    Facts lead to solutions. Assumptions and agendas delay them.

    No excuse for abuse, of any kind, by anyone.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Aug. 5, 2013 10:17 p.m.

    Gosh, for some strange reason I still tend to think that guys are more responsible.

  • teecee logan, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    My son has been living with an abusive wife for 15 yrs. Guess how much help there is out there for him ? The system does not work for a man like it does for a woman. We just hope he makes it out this time.

  • TheWalker Saratoga Springs, UT
    Aug. 6, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    From my, albeit limited, experience, women are just as abusive as men. They just don't hit as hard and men don't complain as much.

  • jfreed27 Los Angeles, CA
    Aug. 11, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Bureau of Justice Statistics states:

    Females are more likely than males to experience nonfatal intimate partner violence.

    On average between 2001 and 2005, nonfatal intimate partner victimizations represented —

    22% of nonfatal violent victimizations against females age 12 or older

    4% of nonfatal violent victimizations against males age 12 or older.

    Victim/offender relationship in nonfatal violent victimizations, by victim and gender, 2001-2005

    Average annual rate per 1,000 persons age 12 or older

    Female Male

    Victim/offender relationship Rate Percent Rate Percent
    100 % 100 %
    Intimate 4.2 21.5 0.9 3.6
    Other relative 1.7 8.9 1.2 4.6
    Friend/acquaintance 7.0 36.2 8.6 34.3
    Stranger 6.5 33.4 14.4 57.4

    For homicides, intimate partners committed —

    30% of homicides of females.

    5% of homicides of males.