This is how it should be.If you are a member of a prestigious power
conference you can demand a 2 for 1 with non power conference teams.Byu mistakenly acts like they are a power conference team and initially wanted
a 2 for 1.Glad the aggies talked sense into them
Utah scheduled a home and home with Michigan after we were invited to the Pac
12.That is the respect fellow BCS programs show each other. byu and usu can only dream of a scenario of being in a power conference
scheduling home and homes with Michigan, USC, Oregon, UCLA.I love my
Pac 12 membership!
One series I am glad continues.
Chris Hill should offer byu and usu 2 for 1 if they want it.And
they'll likely take it.We're in a power conference.
They're not.Our seniors are about to complete career 4-0 SWEEP
over byu and usu beats us once every 15 years, so these games are gimmes. Its not seen as a "good win" when we beat them, so there is no
reason to do a 1 for 1 with either byu or usu.If they wanta 2 for 1
so that they can play a few games with the big boys that is fine.
Frankly I'd like to see the University of Utah further disassociate
ourselves with both usu and byu.We've left them behind as they
both compete for WAC/MWC championships and we're chasing our THIRD
significant bowl in the past decade, THIRD top 5 finish in the past decade,
THIRD undefeated season in the past decade....The nation does not
see usu or byu as power programs, because they aren't.I think
it's good byu and usu have each other to build their rivalry even more.Power programs don't really associate and continue rivalries with
non-power programs.Good luck to byu and usu in your WAC/WAC futures
together. Forgive us if we continue to fill up our schedules with
Michigan, USC, UCLA, and don't want to play WAC teams.
Finally some respect. Should be fun the next few years.
That means BYU is now getting ranked teams like USC, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, USU,
and Stanford, for November games to offset the almost never ranked teams like
utah or Idaho St. they have to play occasionally in November. Sounds good to me.
Can't wait for a great game on Thanksgiving weekend! Should add to the
rivalry and be good for both programs.Go Aggies!
Great news! One for One series are the way to go. Great job Scott Barnes and
Battle of the little brothers.
Very happy the series is moving to November. Would love to see the Boise State
series move to November also. With ESPN, Cougs can get anyone to play them on
Friday night before General Conference. I hope the Aggies maintain
a competitive team like they have now. Go Aggies (except against BYU).
Home and home only makes sense for 2 non power programs.
Great to see the in state games continue and even better changing the current 2
for 1 to a 1 and 1.Lets go Ags, make it more of the rivalry of
old!Not much need for the utes, they hurt our SoS
This is a good series to continue. USU is on the rise it seems, and they
hopefully will be a good opponent for BYU.
Home and Home is good and right. Should be a fun series to see continue.
This is right.Programs of the same caliber typically go home and
home.Power conference teams go 1 for 1 with other power teamsPower conference teams go 2 for 1 with non power conference teamsnon power teams go 1 for 1 with other non power teamsSince
byu and usu are both not power conference teams, they should be 1 for 1Makes sense.
Is Holme trying to steal the spotlight when Utah is involved in the PAC12 media
Love it! First: Congratulations to both schools. BYU - a home game
in November which your fans will look forward to. USU - A quote from the
Trib's announcement, "But make no mistake about it. The days of USU
signing 2-for-1 deals with BYU are over." says it all.Second:
Not certain about timing either time; however, last year on BYU's media day
the U announced home and home with Michigan. This year, on the PAC-12 media
day, BYU announces they are modifying a 2 for 1 with USU so that they can have a
meaningful November home game even though they will be losing money by adding
the extra home game at USU. Everything is in proper perspective.
I personally would like to hear more from Chris B on this topic. Someone who
comments six times in a little over a half hour on an article... Well, that just
screams "winner in life" to me. Please, more of your thoughts if you
would, good sir...
Good job Aggies, you are the best team in the state!!!!!! I can't wait for
you to stomp the utes on there home field, mark it down chrissie!!!!!!! it says
a lot that byu want's a QUALITY game in November, and it says a lot that we
can schedule home and home against a good opponent such as byu!!!GO AGGIES,
looking forward to a clean sweep of the state!!!!!
Mr. B you are correct and I agree that Michigan made a mistake in scheduling a
home and home with Utah. I guarantee you they won't do it again.
Mr. B, I think that U might be chasing after that third BCS berth for a while
longer than U think. Let me know when U finally smell the roses. Only then would
the bragging and hubris maybe be justified.
"If you are a member of a prestigious power conference you can demand a 2
for 1 with non power conference teams."And if you're a
bottom-dwelling power conference weakling like Utah, you can pound sand and kick
and scream, but everyone will be laughing at your delusional arrogance.
Crissy B.You speak so much about power programs and like Utah is one of
them. Just so you know the PAC 11+u AND ESPN DO NOT consider Utah anywhere near
what you describe. In fact there was no mention of them at all in the PAC
breakdown on ESPN last night, and the PAC ranked them 10th or 11th in the
conference. I'll bring the lipstick to you can keep painting the pig
Guys ignore Chris B (neither Utah or BYU fans like him) and eventually he will
go away. As for me, I never read his posts.As far as BYU vs. USU, I
am glad BYU was willing to work with USU and make this happen. Looks like it
will be a win win situation for both teams - at least for a couple of years.
There should be a set number of times one may comment without actually
responding to anybody else on the comment boards. I know I am not alone when I
say I am sick and tired of some people spamming these boards.
@howard S,Is it PAC 12 media day? Is that why some people keep repeatedly
commenting on this article? Must be an absolutely thrilling media day........but
yes, I am sure that Tom Holmoe sets his watch to the hill. Just like some famed
commenters here set their watches to BYU.
This is welcome news and I look forward to extended series. Playing the game at
the end of November will be an interesting experiment. We'll see if that
strengthens the rivalry and opens opportunities to play another opponent at home
the first week in October. That will provide some variety for the fans who
choose to visit that week.It's encouraging to see two power
teams committed to continuing their uninterrupted rivalry.
The former USU-Y agreement was for one game at Utah State (2013), followed up by
2 Home games (2014 and 2015). The NEW agreement leaves the 2013 and 2014 games
as it was, but moving the 2015 game to Logan, and adding one at LES in 2016. So
USU goes from having to submit to a 2-for-1 from the Indy-WACers, to grabbing a
one-off against them. This makes a lot more sense since this game is now of
more importance to the cougars than it is to the Aggies.Dear Dr.
Hill,Please take notice: We shouldn't have to schedule a
Home-&-Home series with our irrelevant, Indy-WACey little brother if USU can
score a one-off off them.
So from 2012 until 2016 BYU get's to beat on the downward slide aggies.
That's cool because we know the 2011 season win for USU was a fluke. Utah
needed to keep the game with USU though. UofU pretty much threw away an easy
win by not scheduling USU. Who know's maybe I'm wrong and USU will
beat BYU once in those years. But I seriously doubt it.
@ Naval Vet"Dear Dr. Hill,Please take notice: We
shouldn't have to schedule a Home-&-Home series with our irrelevant,
Indy-WACey little brother if USU can score a one-off off them."Sorry, he has already decided to want to play BYU for 2017 and 18 and possibly
beyond. Be happy Naval Vet, the rivalry is fun. If it wasn't the Ute
faithful wouldn't have stormed the field in last years game. Great win by
you guys by the way, but it did expose a feeling in many Ute fans (especially on
these comment boards) that they wanted to remain hidden but came out from that
game, and that is that the rivalry game against BYU means something to you guys.
That is why all the talk from you guys that it doesn't matter is a bunch of
crock. I will call that bluff every time. Chris Hill sees it and I doubt
he'll listen to you.
Howard S. Holmoe is only 'stealing the spotlight' when Ute
fans post here. Go post on your own stories about your own team.
"As for me, I never read his posts."This is my attitude for
many illogical haters. I see their name and skip. I don't let a few
overly obsessed BYU fans who claim to hate BYU but really do love BYU as
evidenced by their moment-to-moment following like a woman following the royal
baby story.Stang,"So from 2012 until 2016 BYU get's
to beat on the downward slide aggies" I am so glad someone else realizes
this but me. Gary had one good year and everyone fails to look at his poor
records the other years. So many teams are just like usu last year:
Hawai'i, UTEP, Houston, Ball State....the list is big. They have a good
season, their coach leaves or their QB leaves and they are back to mediocrity.
The only coach who could get them to a historic season bailed on them. 6-8 wins
is all they'll get. I was hoping we wouldn't keep playing these guys.
Doesn't benefit BYU at all and we'll always keep hearing how BYU
stole their color etc etc etc.
Striker,BYU stole USU's colors. See you through 2016.
I think it is great that these teams did a home and home to keep the rivalry
going. Good for both teams!Before we get too much hype from the
great scheduling, it would be prudent to remember that USU has been ranked in
the final polls once in the last how many years? I hope they continue to
improve but the Aggies are still a MWC teams that needs to prove they can
compete in that conference. Until USU starts winning a few more games against
BYU (or Utah) the rivalry is only based on geography, not competiveness.That said, I hope the Aggies win a bunch of games this year and continue
When I read threads like these I am convinced that Chris B is a secret BYU fan
whose goal is to post as many ridiculous and outlandish comments as possible so
any neutral observer would be forced to conclude that Utah fans are blithering
idiots.Anyone who believes Utah should be favored against Utah State
this season is indulging in pure BCS-Conference homerism. USU has 18 starters
back from the nationally-ranked, 11-2 team that beat Utah last year, while Utah
lost half the members and most of the playmakers of its 5-7 no-bowl team, and is
breaking in the 6th Utah offensive coordinator in the past 6 seasons.USU will clobber Utah this season. It won't even be close.
CO Ute:"Before we get too much hype from the great scheduling,
it would be prudent to remember that USU has been ranked in the final polls once
in the last how many years?"By a strange coincidence, one could
have said the same thing about Utah in 2003....
Woe am I looking forward to that game of BYU vs that team from the PRESTIGIOUS
POWERHOUSE CONFERENCE!. Too bad the loss to the lowly Cougars in Provo will
leave a bad taste in the mouth of the fans of that "Powerhouse" school
for two years until the re-match. No worries, most local fans will enjoy the
exciting matches during those years between BYU and USU and little attention
will be paid to that very prestigious school with those 5-7 records in the
PAC-12. Go Cougs!
Just got home from work and read this article. No surprise to see the usual
bunch of Utes making half of the comments on this article that has nothing to do
with them. Seriously people, get a job. Get out of the house once in a while.
It'll be therapeutic. This will be good for BYU since it
should open up opportunities for more high profile games earlier in the season
and playing USU late in November should at least have some interest due to the
in-state factor. I'm not a fan of playing every other year in Logan
however. It's a huge financial loss to play there and unless we have the
rest of our road games at places where we can make up for the loss, it will be
hard to justify playing there.
@Chris B - "Frankly I'd like to see the University of Utah further
disassociate ourselves with both usu and byu. We've left them behind."
I have never commented on something I've left behind seven
times. @Chris B - "Power conference teams go 2 for 1 with non
power conference teams."Yes, finally an acknowledgment that
Fresno State is in a power conference. In basketball, you probably think
Willamette University is in a power conference?
CougFaninTX said:"@Chris B -Yes, finally an
acknowledgment that Fresno State is in a power conference. In basketball, you
probably think Willamette University is in a power conference?"Hey don't diss the Bearcats! They won the NAIA D2 BBall title. Dan
Hawkins coached there before putting Boise St. on the map.
I for one am very happy to see this. Yes, we might have roped USU around a
little longer, and yes there was a financial disincentive, but when BYU needed a
friend in the football world, Utah State was one of the best. I think their
loyalty deserves the respect shown by this move. I DO think that
the game conference weekend was part of the magnificent tradition, but I am
totally jacked about a new thanksgiving tradition and I hope it NEVER ENDS. The
Utah game can be squeezed in wherever, IF it is convenient. Like the House of
Israel, I wouldn't mind if Utah wandered in the wilderness (ie the PAC
whatever basement) for forty years before ever sniffing the Promised Land. I'm sorry. My frantic emotions got the best of me. I LIKE Coach
Whit and the Utah football team. But as for the fans who are too frequent
guests over here: the desert is that way.
@StrikerYou and I are on the same page because we know the truth.
And USU will be lucky to get 6-8 win's on the season. We all know there are
people who disagree so who is it gonna be first.
Basically what we're seeing here is BYU gradually turning Utah State into
its main rivalry and putting Utah in the rearview mirror. And that is the true
reason for Chris B.'s rant.
Well, at least Utah State has the moxy to play BYU every year. We
can't say the same thing about the little school up on the hill. Go Cougars!
That Little School Up On The Hill owns you, and starting this year, the Aggies
will too.Go Utes.
Glad to see the BYU-Utah State game moving to November. Both teams, but
especially BYU, will be taking a big hit financially and far fewer fans will be
able to attend the game in person, but this will give both teams a fun,
season-ending rivalry to look forward to each year.It would be nice
to see the Utes grow a backbone and get the PAC to allow them to play BYU in
November every year. The Colorado/Utah game could easily be moved to September
every year, with both teams playing their natural rivals in November.
Unfortunately, as long as the Utes are content to remain PAC 10.2 serfs,
that's unlikely to happen.
No backbone necessary to beat byu.
, correct me if I'm wrong but when BYU went independent, they scheduled a 2
for 1 in PROVO with Utah, go figure. My first comment was declined because I
put Chrissy in there. Thanks Dnews, you allow so many more comments that are
Mountainman56This will be good for BYU since it should open up
opportunities for more high profile games earlier in the season and playing USU
late in November should at least have some interest due to the in-state
factor.-----Best comment on the thread. -
Gives BYU a significant upgrade from the Idaho's of the world in strength
of schedule- Gives BYU players a reason to be motivated in November-
Gives the Aggies something to shoot for if their season has gone bad and
validation for them outside the MWC if their season has gone well- Creates
a consistent rivalry -- something missing in BYU's independent schedule.
Even Notre Dame has USC, Stanford, Army, Navy and now the ACC. Here's
hoping BYU can evolve into a rivalry with Notre Dame. - Gives Ute fans
something to be obsessed about after their season is already shot- All of
which gets more viewers to tune in: Win for ESPN, BYU, USU and little u.The only downside is heavy travel in Sardine Canyon, which can be
hazardous in November. Take a bus, people.
Gives byu an in state opponent closer to it's ability, since they
can't beat Utah.
Gives BYU an opponent that the Utes are no longer good enough to beat.
@SportsFanPlease tell me you did not just say that about Utah/USU.
Once in 100 years doesn't make you the better team.
RE: Stang08I'm pretty sure that SportsFan was just being funny
in his response to ekute (who was trolling). However, if you believe the trolls
than his statement isn't that far off. According to many who post on this
board (i.e. AZUTE, Chris B., Howard S, etc), football started the instant the
Utes joined the illustrious PAC12. Prior to that MWC was on-par with the BCS
conferences, the BYU/Utah rivalry mattered, and the the BCS was the evil empire.
Now that Utah is in a BCS conference all of a sudden football matters (see
arguments about SOS, in-state recruiting, etc). If that is all true than you
have to submit that during the PAC12 w/Utah era USU is undefeated against their
little brothers up on the hill.
@WiscougarfanTo me it doesn't matter what conference Utah is
in. They are still a better overall program then USU. Or would you like me to
look up the overall record and show you? The MWC was great when Utah and BYU
were in it. When they left and who knows how many other teams left. And half
the WAC went and made it the WAC 2.0 then the MWC became nothing. Utah/BYU made
the MWC. Now that they are on to bigger things the WAC 2.0 is nothing. Again
let me know if you want to see the actual Utah/USU record. You aggies really
don't want to see it. 1 win out of 100+ games. just sad if your a USU
What if everyone made this about Utah and BYU? That would be so cool.
@Stangg,It doesn't matter who is the better overall program in
terms of revenue, wins, recruits etc. I think that is the point that has been
lost by the University of Utah and many of its fans. The matter with all three
teams is who is RELEVANT.BYU has always been relevant with football
fans around the country. They are even more relevant outside of the United
States. Relevancy continued through the awful stretch of the Gary Crowton
years. Being seen internationally and as the top US sports program from the US
in many smaller countries (including professional) BYU will always be relevant
outside the state.Utah was relevant while part of the MWC. They used
to be one of the teams that was talked about nationally and considered an
upstart program capable of mixing it up with the big boys. They beat a
fantastic Alabama team. They joined the PAC12, face-planted and have since left
all national discussion outside of the state of Utah.Utah State
wasn't relevant until that game in Auburn. Its a shame you haven't
noticed what the program has done the past two years.
RE: Stang08Relax, I didn't mean to insinuate that the Aggies
have a stronger football program than the Utes--I know better than that--I was
just giving you a hard time for going along with the trolls. The
truth is that Utah has been very good this last decade, but there has been a dip
in their performance these last few years. The Aggies have historically not
been very good but they have seen a definite uptick in the last few years--and
shouldn't be disrespected for the progress they've made. I believe of
all the in-state programs BYU has the strongest tradition (most national
respect) but they haven't been great in the past few years either. All
three teams have the potential to surprise people (i.e. play in BCS games),
can't wait for the season to start in a few weeks.
I just find it funny that BYU scheduled Utah to a 2-2. Just sayin'.
What uptick Wiscourgarfan? One maybe two winning seasons, one conference title,
two bowl games only one of which was a W, and finally beating BYU for the first
time a couple years ago, and finally beating Utah for the first time last year.
Sorry but doing all that in one MAYBE two years isn't on the uptick. And
everyone seems to forget why all those event's happend.
Stang08Southern, UTSurely you are at least a little bit
graphically minded? Place a point anywhere the Aggies were before coach A,
place another point where they were two years ago, and a third point and connect
the dots. That's up. The facts that it was a short period of time, and
that coach A is gone? That's a tick.
Stang08#16/#17 > unrankedtwo bowl games > one bowl
gamehead-to-head win > head-to-head lossWhat part of,
since Utah joined the PAC, Utah State has been better than Utah, do you not
understand?Since 2008, Utah has been in steady decline, and by 2012,
the Utes were clearly only the 3rd best team in the state.Until the
Utes prove otherwise, they'll remain the 3rd best team in the state.
Stang08,Honestly, what is your beef with USU? I guess a true test of
whether or not a program is on the upswing is if they have haters. USU was never
good enough to have haters until recently. I see you bash them all the time. So
what is the story? Let the board be your psychologist.
I agree with the other posters... USU has definitely seen an uptick in the last
few seasons. In addition to the national rankings, wins against both their
rivals, and bowl game appearances; they are also seeing improvements against
big-time competition (lost by a touchdown to #7 Oklahoma, by 4 points to #23
Auburn, 2 points to a Wisc team that played in the Rose bowl, and by only 3 in
their two most recent losses to BYU), improvements in recruiting, players are
getting drafted, and attendance and excitement about their program is way up. I
hope the momentum keeps up, but am nervous that coach Anderson's departure
will serve a major blow.
So USU is right behind BYU where they belong in your eye's. Why do I have
to explain why I hate the aggies every five minutes? If you could actually read
you would know. Wiscougarfan, your last point was correct. But what happend with
all those games you mentioned? The aggies lost every single one of them.
Because they aren't talented enough to pull off the upset. Does anyone
dispute that. Again learn to read and you'll know why I do not like the
RE: Stang08"So USU is right behind BYU where they belong in your
eye's. Why do I have to explain why I hate the aggies every five minutes?
If you could actually read you would know. Wiscougarfan, your last point was
correct. But what happend with all those games you mentioned? The aggies lost
every single one of them. Because they aren't talented enough to pull off
the upset. Does anyone dispute that. Again learn to read and you'll know
why I do not like the aggies."You're right, I must have
serious reading comprehension problems because in your posts all I can deduce is
that you dislike USU because 1) they aren't Utah, and 2) they play in the
MWC which you deem an inferior league. I'm o.k. with trolls
roaming these boards (they make things interesting), but I don't believe
one's dislike of a particular team entitles them to spew hate or discount
valid points. The point many of us on this thread are making is that USU has
seen dramatic improvement over the last few seasons. You have not yet shown any
evidence that contradicts that.
RationalSalt Lake City, UTMountainman56This will be good
for BYU since it should open up opportunities for more high profile games
earlier in the season and playing USU late in November should at least have some
interest due to the in-state factor.-----Best comment on
the thread. - Creates a consistent rivalry -- something missing in
BYU's independent schedule. Even Notre Dame has USC, Stanford, Army, Navy
and now the ACC. Here's hoping BYU can evolve into a rivalry with Notre
Dame. - Gives Ute fans something to be obsessed about after their season
is already shot- All of which gets more viewers to tune in: Win for ESPN,
BYU, USU and little u.______Pleeeeez BYU fans. Stop the
ND nonsense. The have an affiliation with the ACC which required them to drop
some decades old rivalries. What makes you think they will continue with BYU?
Already said they would target catholic populated areas like USC & Stanford
out West. Not the beehive state.
WACpaddledLOL at your hilarious post pretending that you're
"in the know" about any of Notre Dame's future plans.Sorry to burst your crimson-colored, BYU-hating bubble, but being a fan of a
big boy conference bottom dweller doesn't make you clairvoyant.
SportsFanOrem, UT said:"WACpaddledLOL at your
hilarious post pretending that you're "in the know" about any of
Notre Dame's future plans.Sorry to burst your crimson-colored,
BYU-hating bubble, but being a fan of a big boy conference bottom dweller
doesn't make you clairvoyant."Sorry to burst your bubble.
But you might want to do research before making that kind of post. You might
want to read up on Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick's comments and why the
dropped Michigan. They are adjusting to the semi agreement with the ACC. And
keeping rivalries with USC, Navy, Stanford and even Purdue & Michigan State
for now. Any mention of BYU? No. Will ND keep the existing contract in place
with BYU? Well yes and no. ND can play out the schedule or cancel games. BYU
could even be on their schedule every few years. But don't think for a
minute they will play ND every year as some rival that BYU hopefuls want.BYU = schedule filler, not rival.
upinthenightWhat makes you think you know what Jack Swarbrick is
thinking concerning Notre Dame's future scheduling agreement with BYU?Not a single BYU fan has even implied that BYU will be playing Notre
Dame every year, but BYU does have a contract with Notre Dame, that after this
year's game at Notre Dame, will still have 2 games at BYU and 2 games at
Notre Dame remaining on the contract.As far as being a schedule
filler, which team is really the schedule filler? The team that's already
hosted the Irish twice, and beaten them twice. Or the team that was destroyed in
a one-and-done in South Bend?
sleepless one"Will ND keep the existing contract in place with
BYU? Well yes and no."You might want to learn to do a little
research of your own before calling out other bloggers. What
evidence do you have that Notre Dame isn't planning to honor their contract
with BYU? Your personal, biased opinion of what you think Notre Dame
might do is meaningless. It certainly wasn't derived from anything you
"discovered" in your "research".
I agree with Stang08.. The Aggies are just pretending they can compete when in
reality their last season was essentially a fluke. As well as when they beat us
in Logan a couple years ago. Don't expect it to happen again Aggies. You
will be put back in your place. BYU is Strong. Loyal. True.
Big Brother BYUNice try, but your post has the distinct odor of hill
dwelling troll.The Aggies had a great season last year and deserve
every bit of praise they've been given. Even though BYU beat them, the
Aggies were the better team overall. BYU could have been great if they'd
had even a slightly above average offense; their defense was one of the best in
@Big Brother BYUPride goeth before the fall. If the
Cougars think they can stroll into Romney stadium and get an easy W,
SambonethegreatExpecting a good fight from the Aggies in Logan.btw,big brother BYU = Utah troll
@Stang08"It's because of fan's like you. The way you
treat everyone. The disrespect you show everyone weather it's at home or
you follow your team on the road. How you think USU is the center of the
Universe and how you think they are the best team in the country when in fact
the National Champion is the best in the country."You just
described every rabid fan of every rabid fan base in the country, not just USU.
What die-hard fan doesn't think their team is the center of the universe in
some regard? It's called passion. What's wrong with that? If you choose to be offended, fine, but don't claim somebody is
disrespectful when you are clearly being just as disrespectful.And
sounding like a broken record isn't going to get you respect, but it will
induce tears of boredom from the readers. If that's your goal, by all
means... keep it up.Lastly, Wiscougarfan isn't even an Aggie
fan. Thought you could have figured that out. Guess I was wrong.
UteanymousSalt Lake City, Utah said"sleepless one""Will ND keep the existing contract in place with BYU? Well yes and
no.""You might want to learn to do a little research of your
own before calling out other bloggers. What evidence do you have
that Notre Dame isn't planning to honor their contract with BYU? Your personal, biased opinion of what you think Notre Dame might do is
meaningless. It certainly wasn't derived from anything you
"discovered" in your "research".I never said ND is
not going to keep its commitment. Could you not figure that out after you just
quoted me above?I did my research, you should have done the same before
making a futile attempt at your post.Here you are claiming about my
"might do" when ND is already doing it to other schools. And other
schools have already done to BYU! Back out of a contract. There is
no evidence that ND will keep its agreement in the first place with BYU.Your personal, biased opinion of what you think Notre Dame might do is
meaningless. It certainly wasn't derived from anything you "posted"
in your "comment."
Just the FAXOlympus Cove, Utah said:"upinthenightWhat makes you think you know what Jack Swarbrick is thinking concerning Notre
Dame's future scheduling agreement with BYU?Not a single BYU
fan has even implied that BYU will be playing Notre Dame every year, but BYU
does have a contract with Notre Dame, that after this year's game at Notre
Dame, will still have 2 games at BYU and 2 games at Notre Dame remaining on the
contract."Exactly Just the FAX! What makes you think you
know what Jack Swarbrick is thinking concerning Notre Dame's future
scheduling agreement with BYU?If contracts are valid then why have
teams backed out of playing BYU?And why is ND canceling contracts with the
likes of Michigan? Sorry bud, It's the ACC, and the hotbeds of CA, FL &
TX from here on out. BYU is just a punching bag for a few games.
upinthenight"What makes you think you know what Jack Swarbrick
is thinking concerning Notre Dame's future scheduling agreement with
BYU?"BYU has a signed contract with Notre Dame and the Irish
haven't even hinted that they don't intend to honor their
commitment.Most contracts include a buyout agreement, which the
Irish chose not exercise in their first contract with BYU, and the Irish
haven't given any indication that they intend to exercise in their latest
contract with BYU.In fact,(continued)
Jack Swarbrick, Athletic Director at Notre Dame, gave BYU's decision to go
independent his seal of approval. Swarbrick stated: "(Independence) is not
for everybody, but they [BYU] certainly fit the profile of an institution for
whom it probably does make great sense. Swarbrick is encouraged by the shared
characteristics and values shared by his institution and BYU--national profile,
strong history and traditions that are important to honor. We try very hard as
we start our scheduling process to start by looking at schools that have a
common approach to collegiate athletics and share our values. And they certainly
fit that category."Breaking Notre Dame's contract with BYU
certainly doesn't sound like the kind of commitment Swarbrick would walk
away from lightly.
And another thing Stang. Go ahead and enjoy your fruitless Aggie-hating crusade.
While you're whipping yourself into a frenzy and having aneurysms,
I'll be enjoying some college football from ALL of the Utah teams. Two
hundred bucks wagers I'll be a lot happier during the next few months than
you'll be.Good day to you, sir.
PAC manBreaking Notre Dame's contract with BYU certainly
doesn't sound like the kind of commitment Swarbrick would walk away from
lightly.>>>>Ask Michigan how they feel.
Swarbrick walked away from that. They are/were way more tied together than BYU
and Notre Dame. BYU would be better off making some kind of arrangement like
Notre Dame did with the ACC.
no conference championships for U"Ask Michigan how they feel.
Swarbrick walked away from that. They are/were way more tied together than BYU
and Notre Dame."As far as being Independent, religiously-based,
private schools, with strong football traditions and national fanbases goes, BYU
is much more like Notre Dame, than Michigan, which is exactly the point
Swarbrick was making.BYU is already making informal scheduling
arrangements with selected MWC schools, but it's doubtful that BYU would
even want a formal arrangement where a road game in Laramie would even be a
remote possibility.As far as a formal scheduling arrangement with
the Big 12 goes, I don't see any reason why the Big 12 would be interested
in such an arrangement. BYU being invited to join the conference if/when the Big
12 decides to expand, is much more likely.
Just one thing Sambonethegreat. I don't care about what you have to say.
It's as simple as that. No one here knows what they are talking about so
why should I listen to any of you?