"Lucas' dad, John Lucas II, played in the NBA at various points from
1976-2003"I think this sentence was supposed to be that he was
involved in the NBA at various points from 1976-2003. I believe his playing
days ended in 1990, but he was a head coach for three teams afterwards, the last
being the Cavaliers in 2003.
Wow. I should have tried out. I'm thinking about next year's draft
already. Dare we say No. 1 pick?! Can't disagree with the front
office's plan though. Gotta play the new guns and hope everything turns
out well in 3 - 6 years. It was SA and Oklahoma's approach, and now
it's the Jazz's turn. Just glad we have an action plan and moving
away from living on the playoff fringe year to year.
@ David KingIf you go back and read the article, I believe it does
say, "Lucas' dad, John Lucas II, played and coached in the NBA at
various points from 1976-2003."
My prediction. This season the Jazz will set a record. First team in NBA history
to average fewer than 75 points per game.
Utah Jazz = D League.
So, Al, would you prefer they keep Jefferson and Millsap and win 35-45 games and
miss out on the playoffs again. Or would you be happy with an exceptional year
where they get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs? Either way, they
end up with a non-lottery draft pick and thus maintain the mediocrity. The Jazz finally recognized that the only way to escape the cycle is to try a
new approach. That approach requires giving the five guys all under 23
years-of-age the bulk of the minutes. The only way to make that happen is to get
rid of the veterans, which they did. What more do you want?
I can't believe how many posters are negative about the Jazz plan,
it's not that hard to see what they are trying to do and to see that it is
the most realistic approach they could have. The Jazz aren't doing like a
lot of bottom dwellers do and that is just throw their young players to the
wolves, the Jazz at least brought the youngs along slow and tried to teach them
that winning was important, that is why they kept and played the vets like they
did. This yr the youngs have a couple of yrs experience and will play better
than many think, they need to be put in the position to produce or loose, in the
past the vets were like a safety blanket, these kids need to swim or sink, I
think they can swim but they have to be put in the tough situations and see how
they play. I like the idea. They don't need to win in order for me to be
pleased, they just need to show they can compete and show they are improving.
Agreed. Why are Jazz fans down. We got Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks and Burke
as a starting five. This has some awesome potential. Go Jazz!
Important mention here of Alec Burks' growing point guard contributions. He
may play the point to start and/or finish games, as well as against larger point
guards as the article alluded to. Let's hope John Lucas can prove a good
mentor for Trey Burke, too.
I understand the plan, just wish we had a fast forward button for this year.
Also amazing how quickly optimism about Burke suddenly evaporates.
Hope he pulls it out, our point guard of the future so far stinks. I can
understand the shooting woes, but he should be able to pass the ball and
rebound, that is just pure effort.
It has been stated before that Burks would make a good point guard. At 6 ft 6,
he has the tools. So, is it viable or not? Burke will struggle and Burks could
lighten the load until he gets his feet wet.
Good news, after a poor season this coming year, the Jazz will be in a position
to draft a point guard after the Burke Bust.
Actually I strongly know that this is the best position that the Jazz has been
since Karl and John retired. I can see a strong commitment from management to
rebuild, we have incredible potential with the young players we have, we may
have a slow year this year while the team gets more experience, however, it
could be a surprise year too.I also have the feeling that Corbin is
in "probation" and don't be surprise that there is some change,
the fact that Sloan is a Consultant make me think that there is a possibility of
a new coach, and no, I don't think would be Sloan, but, who knows?.Also, the fact is that in Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks and Burke we
have a potential group of very good players, even a couple of them could reach
the category of super stars!, Also, Kanter, Favors, Hayward and even Burks have
an extra year of experience and this club may surprise the critics by reaching
the playoffs, and next year will be an even better year, now there is a X
factor to all of these, that the jazz can keep this group together for many
Short-term thinking is the bane of most NBA franchises - and will be the bane of
the Jazz if enough fans don't have the vision and patience necessary to let
Jazz management produce a championship team.The Stockton-Malone era
wasn't built in a year, or even a decade. They joined the Jazz in 1984/1985
respectively, and it wasn't until the mid-'90s that they got to the
championship. So what happened in between? Lots of learning and lots of
executive commitment to the team and its core players.Sound
Clearly many ignorant Jazz fans are spoiled. Many grew up watching Malone and
Stockton dominate with total amnesia for how many years/stages/steps it took to
get them to that point where they got to the Finals.Then the Jazz
tried to rebuild while still winning...multiple attempts and all failed.With the new CBA looming the Jazz have positioned themselves in prime
position to give themselves the best chance of building a potential
contender.1. They have traded and acquired via the draft young CHEAP
talent.2. They have positioned themselves with massive salary
flexibility coinciding with when their young talent will have opportunity to
prove whether they are worth the $$$.3. They have acquired massive
salary flexibility in the year that if their young talent does not pan out they
will have some excellent upper tier free agents to acquire. Yes they may have
to overpay but their odds will be better than ever that they won't have to
overpay as much with salary and CBA restrictions in place.4. They
have positioned themselves to have a down/losing year with one of the deepest
drafts in many years looming. Lots of potential allstars.Well done!
Whats the point of getting a OJ Mayo, Jarrett Jack and Andrew Bynum and getting
at best a 7th seed when you can get a guy that can bring the whole thing
together and bring in a championship in the draft next year? To me it's no
contest. No free agent in the market that would've come here, wasn't
going bring anything more than mediocrity in the form of a 7th or 8th seed. Why
are so many fans so short sighted?
Continued..I also forgot to mention:5. The expiring
salaries they have stockpiled are tremendously valuable at the trade deadline if
a move/free agent player they want becomes available.6. At the same
time they have accomplished all of the above they have acquired 2 additional 1st
round and 3 additional 2nd round draft picks. These are also invaluable to both
acquire talent, move up in the draft, or make deals work.Sure this
is not a guaranteed recipe for a championship but we have already tried building
through incessant mediocrity of winning 40ish games a year and unfortunately
too many fans think that is what they should continue to do.The only
viable way for a team in our market to have a chance is to build through the
draft, develop other young talent you have, and then add in free agents when
they figure out who will be good enough to keep. If our young guys blossom you
will be able to attract free agents to play with them.I for one am
pleased that at least their is some prospect to transcend beyond the mediocre
results of seasons past.
I'm in for the overhaul, but I think they should keep Neto over here this
year. He looks better than Burke right now. Keeping Burks as the other point
guard would be a mistake, he is much better suited for the two. The Jazz youth
needs a pass first fast play maker, not a head down shoot first shoot then pass
I wonder why they want John Lucas III over Mo Williams or Tinsley. JL3 certainly
can get his points but his best season he averaged 2.2 assists. Doesnt sound
like getting teammates involved is a very big priority for him.With
the young talented bigs the Jazz have like Kantor and Favors you think
they'd want a PG who is a good distributor.
@Jazz SourceI agree with you...i just don't get why most Jazz
Fans here...gets mad at a draft pick...or a trade...and then a year
later...would praise the brass for going into deals...let's all be
positive...the team needs its fans...and i am sure they'll work a way to
get the best talent on the floor every night....these would be growing
pains...think about the clipper fans had to go through
The way I see it is one season of under .500 basketball, 2 1st round picks in
one of the best drafts in the last decade, 31+ million in expiring contracts,
still 5 million under cap not counting the Lucas contract = somewhere around $36
million to sign Hayward and Favors and to spend on one of the better free agent
classes in years. I see this team being better in 2014-2015 than it has been for
at least the last 3 years. The future is bright.
I truly believe the Jazz have bypassed an opportunity here. John Lucas
III's stats are less than those of Jimmer Fredette and he is shorter. And
that with more playing time than Jimmer has been afforded. Jimmer's
opportunities have been very limited in Sacramento. The Jazz have the money.
I'd like to see that 41% from the 3 point range get a chance in SLC.
Most of you guys are overanalyzing this move. The Jazz are filling roster spots.
That's all this is. They did not see John Lucas and say,man this guy is
going to take us places. He is cheap and gives the Jazz another point guard. He
will play a year or 2 here probably and that will be the extent of it.To the fan that said this has been a bad offseason. No, it has not. Resigning
Al and Paul and being an 8th seed contender would be worse. The way the NBA
works is you have to clean house and rebuild every once in a while. The Spurs
did it before they made this run, the Thunder, the Heat before 2006, the Lakers
before Gasol, the Bulls pretty much since MJ retired and D Rose came.The Jazz are developing their young talent, keeping financial flexibility and
will have a good draft pick in a deep draft next year most likely. How is that a
bad plan as opposed to bringing back a mediocre team that probably would miss
the playoffs anyway?I look forward to seeing the youngsters develop
Play Nice. When the Jazz get Jabari Parker in the draft next year,
people won't even give two hollars about Jimmer Fredette anymore. Jabari
will be a superstar and Jimmer will be playing in Italy.
The Jazz say they like to give the local college athletes a chance. However
there has not been even a sniff in the direction of the NCAA scoring leader who
wore a local blue color. His points per minute and percentages are decent. I
will grant that defense may be a weakness. I agree that Jabari would be a fun
addition. However that remains to be proven.
Here's to having a succesful season.