I believe a woman who has the self confidence to avoid the made up artificial
look is a more attractive, well adjusted person. I also believe a woman who is
told what to wear under the guise of a religious tenet is a victim.
she says the words I don't believe in the beauty myth. what does she also
not believe in gravity either ? physical beauty is a reality. it may not be
the world as you wish it were but it is the world as it exists.there
are many worthwhile attributes of a person. physical beauty is one, intelligence
is another, depth of character is another empathy is another and so on. Rather
than deny the reality of an attribute why not just accept the world as it is?
love it. A simple truth is that a well groomed person (either gender)
doesn't need a lot of expensive clothes or makeup to look great. Just take
care of yourself.And Hutterite, I completely agree. (I am pretty sure the
end of the world has begun.)
"...(I am pretty sure the end of the world has begun.)...".A
safe bet if there ever was one...
"I won't be 'hot' forever"? Hmm, good thing beauty is in
the eye of the beholder.In my limited experience personality shines
through physical beauty. Physical beauty can attract someone, but it is
personality that will make them stay!
@Hutterite:"I also believe a woman who is told what to wear
under the guise of a religious tenet is a victim." That is kind of random.
What has that to do with this article? (Don't look now, but your
prejudices are poking out.)
Is this a great country or what?She can dress any way she wants to,
for whatever reason. That is called freedom!If it suits her to wear a
hijab to work and stay at a nudist colony on the weekend, or whatever, she has
the freedom to do so. We can all have our opinions as to if it is
helpful or hurtful to her life, but that is our freedom, too. This IS a great
One day I was talking to one of my co-workers when a female co-worker rushed in.
She looked different, actually more attractive. I walked over to her and she
quickly turned away and said, "Don't look at me, I don't have
make-up on." I left her alone and then went back to talking to the male
co-worker. He said, "Rita really looks attractive this morning. What is
different about her?"
@ Tekakaromatagi: From the article, "... the Modesty Experiment, in which I
took my cues from Jewish, Muslim and some Christian modesty practices..."Tying this article to religious tenets is not about prejudice, it is
about reading comprehension. Thousands of women choose not to wear
make-up or curl their hair or wear uncomfortable clothes or shoes. Many of them
do it as a lifestyle choice and not just a nine month experiment. It is
entirely possible to not buy into the beauty industry without making it about
modesty and religion. And tying the lack of make-up and hair-coifing to modesty
and religion implies that women who do those things are by default immodest.This woman buys so deep into what the beauty industry is selling that
instead of making a choice to do what she wanted to do and dress the way she
wants to dress, she had to find a way to justify that change. How
sad that she places so little value on herself and her own judgement that she
was not able to just make that change because she wanted to but had to seek
outside validation for it.
cjb: You missed the entire point of the Sester's article.
"she only wore clothing that covered her legs (above the knee), shoulders
and hair" My goodness! The girl was more than half naked!
Great idea, now she just needs a hijab. Most feminists seem to have given up on
their appearance. For examples, just see Janet Napolitano, Elena Kagan, etc. I
think I'm starting to understand why attractive conservative women are
attacked so viciously in the media.
I think there's a big difference between beautiful, and attractive.Beautiful women are as coiffed and fashionable as Shields describes.
They also can appear to be unapproachable, cold, and--ask any woman--seen as
objects of jealousy, rather than appeal. While many women wished to be
beautiful, they also resent beautiful women (we women are a mess in general).Attractive women, on the other hand, may not be so "put
together," but they are pleasant, kind, and happy--exactly as Shields
appears in her photo. We like attractive people; they don't make us feel
inadequate or wrong, but accepted and important. Theirs is an inner beauty, a
sense of grace, of completeness, of honesty and realness.Oh, to have
more women--and men--obsessed with attractiveness rather than beauty.
My wife never wears makeup. She likes it that way and so do I. Luckily she is
the world's most beautiful woman so doesn't need it.What a waste of
Slow "news" day, I take it. This story is now almost 2years old. I love
the Deseret News, but seriously . . .
I say let the free market decide what is beautiful rather than socialist
communists handing out kiddie soccer trophies to every beautiful thing just
because... Well... It's not PC to call anything not beautiful.
Saying that inner beauty is more important than outer beauty is a little like
saying that water is more important than food.
Strike out on your own! Great! Don't let the world dictate your fashion! I
think that attitude is fantastic. But, why the nose ring? You really think that
adds to your 'natural' beauty?
Awesome experiment, Lauren!! I think it took a lot of courage to do what you
did. I'm looking forward to your book.I rarely wear make-up
(maybe I will for a date with my hubby) and don't waste time with hair-gel
or hairspray. I keep my hair in place with clips, one on each side of my head.
My skirts are midi-length and I wear tops with at least a cap sleeve. My
"shorts" are capri length. And these have nothing to do with religion,
they have to do with modesty.
Feminine attractiveness is not about how one looks but what one shows.
I do not envy women their role. They have to beautify themselves enough to
attract the opposite sex but not so much as to get put upon by those who they
deem not fit potential companionship. A very fine line to walk.
I love the comment by Million in Bluffdale, because it is so true! When I was a teen, a new make-up company called "Love" was born. They
had a slogan, "Love's a little color." and "Love's a
little cover." and taught this young, impressionable girl that I needed both
to achieve color in my skin and cover of my horrible zits. (I think I had two,
and was mortified.) I bought the stuff, and smeared it on every day. Our lockers
were such that the boys were situated behind ours, but sound bounced off the
ceiling, and one day I overheard a boy I respected say to a friend how sad he
was that so many girls thought they needed to be tan, and how horrible it
looked. The other boy agreed. That made me give a serious look to my Love
products.Later, I heard a quote, and I wish I remembered what it
was, or who said it, but the gist of it was that makeup only makes young girls
look painted and older women look frosted. Realizing this, I wash my
face and apply moisturizer. Good to go!
A friend of mine works in corporate communications, and she is always making
video recordings of all kinds of people. They all (even men) wear makeup so
they look warm and radiant on camera.After the taping, the men are
asked whether they want the makeup removed or not. According to my friend, a
surprising number of men choose to keep the makeup on for the rest of the day
because they look so good. (One assumes they are wearing the basic stuff to
soften blemishes, not mascara or lipstick.)I thought this was
interesting and showed that both genders want to look good. As for me,
I'll just brush my hair and teeth and leave the make-up to others.
For those who want a different cultural view of beauty, find a Navajo and ask
them what "hozho" (translated loosely into English as "beauty")
means to them. It's an entirely different perspective than our vain,
limited American view.Scholars have described the Navajo "hozho"
concept as dealing with such matters as order, happiness, goodness, health,
well-being, balance, harmony, beauty; thus representing a much deeper
understanding of beauty than that coming from the world of so-called
"Is this a great country or what? She can dress any way she wants to, for
whatever reason."There's nothing uniquely American about
this freedom; in fact, there is less freedom in the way Americans can dress in
public when compared to other countries. You won't find the public nudism
in Salt Lake, for example, that you can in Berlin. I know it's a week for
nationalist expressions in the US, but not everything benefits from being
hoisted up the flagpole to flutter beside Old Glory.
Red Corvette... those were probably the most shallow comments I have seen in a
long time. If anyone thinks they need money or what society calls good looks to
be happy.... they have absolutely no clue what true happiness is all about.....
as both of those things are fleeting, and have little to do with what kind of a
person you really are.It is such a shame so many are so focused on
those things that in the end mean so little.
There got to be a balance point. Where your not a heathen and not a beauty
queen. Nice is all I want to see. Scary is the two extremes.
Modesty might be defined as the opposite of extreme, and many today are in love
with the extreme. Modesty also does not just mean covering certain parts of the
body, since tight-fitting or exaggerated clothing covering those parts can draw
as much attention as if they were uncovered – possibly even more.Modesty is a virtue that has become almost obsolete today, largely due to
Hollywood and the outrageous “Look at Meeeeee!” attitudes of those
desiring fame.Modesty reflects respect for self and for others. The
most accurate definition is “One who is confident and strong, brave and
has integrity - one who does not need to show off or brag about what they have
or do not have - one who is above materialism - one who is mature and content
with themselves.” Many find this trait very attractive
BECAUSE it is so rare.