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Utah Jazz: Big Al Jefferson to leave Utah, will sign 3-year deal with Charlotte

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  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    July 4, 2013 3:44 p.m.

    Wow, a guy that can't play defense is worth $41 million? What are the Bobcats thinking?

    Of course Al loves Salt Lake City. So does Urban Meyer. Just look at what each has said. (Don't form your opinion on what either have done, though.)

    Do reporters ever get the idea that they are being "played" by the athletes they cover? One of the reasons I wonder is because the media always roasts the athletes when they aren't the perfect interview, so I'm thinking the players just spit out anything positive to get the interview finished. Reports just want a story so they couldn't care less about getting the facts. Sports news has become sports inquirer---entertainment for some of the masses.

    Good luck Al....with a little more defense for about a total of 10 minutes Utah would have made the playoffs this past season. Oh, well.....

  • SD_UtahUter San Diego, CA
    July 4, 2013 4:44 p.m.

    If the Jazz were planning on sign and trading Al/Paul, half of that strategy is down the drain. They haven't made 1 offer, not even to DeMarre. Great draft but they are sitting around waiting for the girl to come to them. Its not happening..the targets are dwindling. Have to spend close to 30mil. Please do something soon so you don't become desperate and settle and overpay. I don't agree with the wait 5 days..we'll see. Do something!

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 4, 2013 4:45 p.m.

    I do think Big Al is a good guy and a good player overall. That said, Big Al and Millsap leading the way was not going to get us where we want to be. I commend the Jazz organization for committing to our young and upcoming players to take over this team. By and large I feel most Jazz fans will be patient with the rebuilding process and not discouraged if we don't see the playoffs next season,as long as they see the effort in developing our young players. Fortydam, I still don't like Corbin, but I will try to be a little patient with him if he starts teaching defense and developing the young guns. He better show me something quickly though because I have serious doubts that he should be a head coach.

  • Ryan90 Bluffdale, UT
    July 4, 2013 5:12 p.m.

    Since Jefferson is gone you better try an sign Chris Kaman or DeJuan Blair for additional help at another center and make a big effort in trying to sign J.J. Hickson as a F/C for at least a 5 year contract. As for guards they need to sign at least 2 more of the following
    Jose Calderon, Jeff Teague, Brandon Jennings, Jarrett Jack, Randy Foye or Monta Ellis. They will need experience to help out with Trey Burke. They need to do something in the next day or so before they are gone.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 4, 2013 5:14 p.m.

    @SD_UtahUter

    Signing someone for the sake of signing a free agent...would be bad...its like the bulls panicked and decided to get boozer a huge some of cash...and a trade exception...there are still some targets out there...JJ Hickson...Mareese Spreights...Tyler Hansbrough...being patient is tough....especially when fans are breathing down your neck....but it takes guts to do it...if you know its for the the team's best interest...I do think...that they need to lock up Hayward and Favors...

    @Americanvet
    i agree with you on Corbin...i don't think he'll be the guy you want on a rebuilding team...because he relies on his vets too much...Marvin Williams is an example...

    i think Calderon still does not have a team...Calderon and Tinsley would be good for PGs...Spreights, Hickson, Millsap, Landry and Hansbrough are possible targets for bigs....Corey Brewer, Earl Clark, Austin Daye, Al Farouq Aminu, Wesley Johnson and Alan Anderson for wings...so i dont see any reason to panic...have faith in Lindsey...he brought you a guy you all love in Trey Burke...i'm sure he'll work something out

  • fastfox Ogden, UT
    July 4, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    @SD_UtahUter

    The reason why they're waiting is so they don't overpay for players...seriously look at the contracts going around. Evans for 44 million, Jefferson for 41 million, Korver for 24 million, Splitter for 36 million, etc., etc. These players are all getting overpaid.

    They're waiting for everyone to spend their money, so they can pay the actual price for a player. Guys like Millsap, Jack, Landry, Foye, Carroll, Calderon, Williams, etc. are still out there, so be patient. I agree it is frustrating watching other teams "scoop" players from the jazz, however it's not like they don't know what they're doing. They just simply refuse to overpay for players. It will be interesting to see what they do when it is all said and done though.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    July 4, 2013 6:01 p.m.

    We should have traded him last year...major brain cramp.

  • fortydam OREM, UT
    July 4, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    Americanvet, Corbin will be on a short leash with me too. Like I've said before I think his ability to coach and get players to play defense will be getting players that are capable of doing so. Without a true point guard and that very poorly assembled team, I'm not sure anyone would have done better with the exception of maybe George Karl. I wouldn't mind seeing Hansbrough here, he is very tough and the Jazz need some nasty. I know I've protected Corbin with my comments, but only because of that team..

  • milner Centerfield Sanpete, UT
    July 4, 2013 6:45 p.m.

    Good riddons!

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    July 4, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    The Jazz and pretty much everybody else knew the kind of money Big Al would get. Jazz were not willing to pay the tab. Big Al just sent a message, "if I'm not your first choice then you ain't mine". Bobcats now have a front line that can play with anybody. They may not be bottom feeders this year.

    Jazz will move when they can and want to. It is the old story of the "willing and able buyer".

  • Big Bubba Herriman, UT
    July 4, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    No athlete is worth 40+ million dollars. If the market will bear such a price tag on an athlete, then our society's values are way out of whack. A society that values athletes more than scientists, educators, and surgeons is nutty.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 4, 2013 9:55 p.m.

    It is nauseating to read these whiny fan comments.

    "Sign someone the sky is falling!"

    Then after they overpay these fools who have gotten these big bloated overpaid deals then you bust on the Jazz next season because they can't get anyone good and they are saddled with non-productive expensive players.

    The Bobcats paid $41 million for Big Al. Horrific! Korver? Another ridiculous overpaid deal. Tyreke Evans? More of the same.

    The only player so far that I would even want is CP3 and he said he is not moving. The rest of these dudes are not marquis and most are marginal role players who are not taking this franchise anywhere. So why race out and pay multiyear overpaid contracts for them?

    Don't. Bad deals everywhere so far.

    The Jazz need to keep their money, play the young guys, see what we actually have, lose plenty of game (unfortunate reality), get a great draft position next year in a deep draft and then go from there.

    At that point you know whether these young guys are any good or not.

    You better find out before it comes time to re-sign them. That ever cross your mind?

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    July 4, 2013 9:56 p.m.

    @SD_UtahUter

    Don't know why you're so broken up about a player who had the worse +/- rating on the team leaving. Especially when his backup Enes Kanter had the best +/- rating on the team.

    Did the Jazz not pursue this one? You bet. No one pursued this one except the lowly Bobcats whose front office has pretty much never made a good decision ever. And Jefferson still couldn't land a max deal.

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 4, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    @JazzSoutce
    The Jazz do have to sign about $30 million more in player salaries just to get to the NBA minimum, so they will be bringing in players. I agree though that we don't want long term contracts with marginal new players when there is a deeper draft and better free agency pool next year. Lets just bring in the best we can get with the $30 million on 1 year contracts if needed then make the bigger moves next year.imho

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    July 4, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    I'm just reading on ESPN that the Warriors are trying to shed salaries so they can make a run at Dwight Howard. They have players like Andrew Bogut and Richard Jefferson on the block. I'm wondering if the Jazz might go for Bogut who is in the final year with a $14million contract. If they sign Bogut and resign Millsap they would be getting close to the minimum salary but still enough left over for a shooter or 2. Bogut has been injury prone but can be a tremendous defender when healthy. If he misses some games with injuries, we want to be getting our young bigs most of the playing time anyway. If Bogut is a complete bust he will become a free agent next year and come off the books so the Jazz can pursue some other big time free agents next season.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    July 4, 2013 11:21 p.m.

    @Americanvet

    i agree with you

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    July 5, 2013 5:27 a.m.

    Good news & good luck to Al.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    July 5, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    I, for one, am certainly grateful that we didn't sign Jefferson to a max contract like the Bobcats and Michael Jordan apparently did. I am hoping that they don't sign Millsap to a max contract either, and so far I have reason to believe they won't. We will need the money in the future to negotiate with players that have a real upside and can play NBA ball. We need to get rid of Marvin Williams as soon as possible so that we have an extra 8 million to pay for players that deserve it. Whatever we do this summer, we need to evaluate the true value of each player we sign. Other than the ones we already have on contract (with the exception of Marvin Williams) there are no players we had last year that deserve any consideration. With next years draft potential, we will be able to have a substantially better, more athletic, and younger team in the future.

  • Bill Shakespeare Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2013 7:22 a.m.

    More minutes for m'boy the Turk! Yes! See you Al, and thanks.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    July 5, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    The Jazz have 28 million to spend and anyone who says the Jazz do not overspend (league wide hazard) does not remember AK or Raja Bell.

    Traditionally the Jazz have tried to be spendthrifts and get people like junkyard dog and Jeremy Evans then the team gets to watch the playoffs instead of playing in them.

    Go get a world class athlete, get the best money can buy if you expect world class results. There are 30 teams in the league and 26 are working on rebuilding. Does anyone think that KOC is smarter than Danny Ainge? Boston banners say that is not the case.

    Rebuilding in the NBA is a myth.

    The draft was not strong, the free agent pool was not deep and so whoever on the Jazz had the great idea to save up for this shallow group of individuals (knowing CP3 and Howard were not coming to Utah) should be held accountable. Jazz are losing way more than they are gaining this offseason.

    The advantage the Jazz have is their fanbase is much stronger than their players. Fans here are believers...but so far with free agents Jazz have shown little to believe in.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 5, 2013 8:31 a.m.

    @ Americanvet

    We are essentially in agreement. I fully understand we have to bring some players in to meet the minimum. I am simply stating that the Jazz are not in a position to contend so why rush out and overpay for a name and get submerged in another overpaid/bad long term deal for a role player like AK47.

    We HAVE to find out whether these young guys are legit winners who can score/defend/win. If we don't then we will be faced with the decision of whether to re-sign them to big deals while not knowing whether they are worth it.

    I agree, Bogut on a short term deal could make sense. You could give Favors, Kanter, and Bogut 30+ minutes a night in a 3 man rotation.

    Big Al has a poor +/- rating and could not lead this team to the playoffs 2 out of 3 years he was here. He is 24th among active Centers drawing fouls/getting to the line. Doormat defender. Good low post scorer but not much else.

    His career TEAM(s) results speak for themselves. Multiple teams, lots of players/coaches, and yet teams that feature him consistently don't win.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 5, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    Hoopshyperumors just reported an hour or so ago that the Jazz are in negotiations with Warriors to trade for Bogut.

    We shall see. His contract expires next season. Seems like close to a perfect fit. Good mentor for Bigs and would be a nice 3 man rotation. If he stayed healthy our bigs would defend the paint nicely!

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    July 5, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    @Americanvet, why in the world would you want to sign Bogut and Milsap when the Jazz just let Jefferson go to let Favors and Kanter take over?

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 5, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Letting big Al walk is one of the biggest mistakes in recent Jazz history. There are no other reliable big men availiable. Paul Millsap is ok, but not a clutch player. Other options jazz are left with? Andrew Bogut (14 million)... If that is the big plan of the jazz it is a sad day. They could have signed Jefferson for the same amount. There is no way Bogut is better than Jefferson. What a bad move.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Bay Area, CA
    July 5, 2013 9:44 a.m.

    Let the other teams overpay and then regret it next year. There will be adequate players available. Jazz have done a good job of finding players that are undervalued or unknown.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    July 5, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    @Brahmabull The reason Bogut is an option over Jefferson is that Bogut will come in on an expiring contract. The Jazz HAVE TO sign more guys to meet the NBA minimum salary. Bogut will fill a large chunk of that until next year when Hayward and Favors can get extentions. Big Al would not have agreed to a 1 year contract even if the Jazz wanted him. Another thing...Basketball-wise, Bogut can come in and guard the rim and rebound without being a black hole on the offensive end. The young guys can develop their games while Bogut just helps out for a year with the dirty work.

    But another option is that the Jazz could trade Bogut mid-season to a team trying to cut salary because every team will have dreams of Lebron in the summer of 2014.

    And lastly, you are correct that Al was clutch, but seriously look at his track record. He has never been on a successful team. It's time to try something else.

  • Brahmabull sandy, ut
    July 5, 2013 12:34 p.m.

    dhsalum

    He has not been on a successful team because the teams he has been on have had less then stellar players around him. He has his weaknesses, but is a good long term option. The jazz need low post scoring. Kanter, Favors, and Bogut do not provide much of it. I understand the 1 year deal thing, but why not lock him up for 4 years? Favors and Hayward aren't the key to a winning team. They are good role players, nothing more.

  • SD_UtahUter San Diego, CA
    July 5, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    Jazz HAVE to spend ~$30mil to get to minimum legal cap limit. I don't think too many players would be interested in signing a 1yr contact due to injury risk, would you? I'm fine with Al leaving, but I'm 'whiny' cuz the Jazz got a big fat 'ZERO' in return for their most productive player. Not even 1 draft pick, prospective asset, or 'bad contract'..nada, zero. They didn't trade either Sap or Al cuz they wanted to make the playoffs..instead they choked (on Corbin). I bet you they're scrambling now to get something done. I'm wondering how you can get a 'bad contract' now without trading away a Burks. Sap can be signed for free, he's cheaper. Don't count on C.Landry, Copeland coming - they will sign with contenders. I heard about Bogut rumor - it's off. OK Jazz Management, can we at least sign DeMarre? He's waiting...wait to long and he will bail, that's how pride works. KOC, let Lindsay do his thing..it's been 5 days now..and please don't overpay for scrubs in desparation

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    July 5, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    Brahmabull, if he was as good as you think he is, then he wouldn't need great players around him to lead a successful team. If he was really a franchise big, then he would have led the Jazz to the playoffs last year--simple as that. They had enough talent around him to at least be in the top 8. He didn't. Mo didn't. Those two are players that can't really be role players. So if they're not leading you to wins, let them go. Millsap and Foye can be great role players so the Jazz will try to bring them back.

    The key thing, to me, is that they have to take a risk. Keeping Big Al will keep you in the 6-9 range in the west. No better. So let's at least see what the young guys can do. See what Paul George did once Danny Granger was out of the way? Maybe Favors or Kanter can do that without Big Al.. Maybe not, but they have to try if they want to seriously compete.