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In family poll, Mitt Romney voted against 2012 presidential bid

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  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    July 2, 2013 5:59 p.m.

    Once again Romney proves that he won't stand by his own decisions. This is one time I wish he had stuck to his decision (not that doing so would have been in character for him). I am grateful that we weren't stuck with him in the White House. Obama is bad, but Romney would have been much, much worse. The USA dodged a big disaster when he was sent packing. Thank you, US voters, for seeing through his smoke and mirrors to what he really was and is, and saying NO THANKS!

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    July 2, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    Please, no more articles about Romney. It's over. Let it rest!

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    July 2, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    I wonder what Furry 1993 wanted in a president that Romney wouldn't promise, although Obama surely has promised the world to everyone; he just can't deliver. Seldom have we had a worst president than the one now in office.

    I used to think Lyndon Johnson was the worst we could ever have, then we got Richard Nixon.

    Isn't it interesting how well the US Congress is operating these days? And the Democrats have the Senate and the White House and they still can't do even the simplest things without going on vacation first. Oh, I error----when they had to wait in lines at the airport suddenly there was money to keep TSA employees working and air traffic control towers open.

    So we didn't get Romney---we got a man who is running the country into the ground just as fast as he can and is a big talker all the time. You gotta love the fact we have an orator in the White House---after all, that is what really matters!

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    July 2, 2013 7:03 p.m.

    Hey Furry, how would Romney have been much, much worse? Please tell me from your vast stores of knowledge.
    If anything this article showed Romney wasn't driven by money, but by his desire (reluctantly) to serve.

  • riverofsun St.George, Utah
    July 2, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    Isn't it great not being famous!
    How embarrassing for a family, particularly the Romney Clan, who likely NEVER will hear the end of this sort of thing.

  • bradleyc Layton, UT
    July 2, 2013 7:32 p.m.

    I would love to have Mitt in the whitehouse. He would have made many unpopular decisions which would have led to more prosperity, less poverty and dependence, and a better way of life for our children and grand children. The lazy would have hated him and the productive would have prospered. The legal immigrant would have prospered in ways unimaginable. We need a man like Mitt Romney who respects the constitution and the very ideals of the USA.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    July 2, 2013 8:00 p.m.

    Ok Furry1993, like UncleRico, how could he have been worse, what do you know that would indicate the the fast track to economic suicide that we are on now would have been accelerated or even have stayed the same under a Romney presidency? enlighten us please?

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 2, 2013 8:30 p.m.

    Romney would have very likely been the best President the United States had since Abraham Lincoln. Yes, Lincoln.

    Does that mean Romney would have been popular?

    Not even close.

    Does that mean Romney would have done what is right regardless of the pressure put on him from whiners, free-laoders and the immoral masses?

    Now you're talkin'!.....

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 2, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    And one more thing about Romney:

    Anyone who believes that Romney was/is heartless because he (supposedly) claimed he didn't care about 47% of Americans (ah, yes, the infamous "47%" quote) is clueless. Make that completely clueless.

    1st, Romney simply said what proved to be true: approximately 47% of voters are dependent on government checks in one form or another (welfare checks, housing assistance, and, yes, even Social Security) and would therefore not vote for ANY candidate who championed personal responsibility and a general weaning off of federal government funds (better known as "YOUR tax dollars").

    2nd, Romney was not at a charity function, he was at an election function. Imagine that?...an official running for office talking about facts, statistics, etc of the electorate and what it would take to get him elected. I know, what a shocker.

    3rd, anyone claiming that Romney is merely a selfish "super rich guy" refuses to do even an ounce of honest research into the vast, vast amounts of wealth Romney has given away to charity, and I DON'T mean in tithing to the LDS church. These facts were out there to see for anyone with an honest heart to find it.

    Sad....

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    July 2, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    Stories like this make me respect this man even more.
    God bless this person for his introspective ability.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    July 2, 2013 10:19 p.m.

    Romney needs to suck it up and run again. Churchill lost his first election for MP, won the next several, switched parties, was appointed to the PM's cabinet in the highest of rankings, got fired twice from the cabinet and demoted once and then got clobbered in an election for MP.

    Did he back away? Not a chance because he believed in what had to be done for England. Despite everyone saying he was through he said to heck with them and ran 10 years later. Just when England needed him. Churchill finally became the Prime Minister and was the single biggest reason the Allies beat the Nazi/Nat. Socialists.

    Forget the family vote, Mitt. Step up. YOU understand economies. Go lead the nation back from this mess that the no nothings in DC have gotten us in to.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    July 2, 2013 10:39 p.m.

    Barack Obama has done exactly nothing on debt, employment, helping the middle class, easing the tax burden or decreasing the cost of Health Care.

    He's lied time and time again. God help us (and I use that term with respect, not in vain) till 2016.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 2, 2013 10:48 p.m.

    The re-election of Barack Obama well go down in history as possibly the biggest misstep this country has ever made... it was far more a reflection on the intellect of the Electorate that gave him an additional four years than it was of the candidates...

    . Record unemployment levels;
    . Lower average earnings per household (by $4k a year);
    . The lowest percentage of the citizenship involved in the economic process than ever before (63%)... (this means the people involved in creating the GDP;
    . Highest number of foreclosure in the countries history;
    . Greatest growth of food stamp recipients since the program was implemented;
    . Greatest growth of people with earnings below the poverty level;
    . $7 Trillion dollars of debt growth in less than 5 years (by far the biggest debt growth in the countr's history);
    . Worst relationships with allies in the history of this country;
    . A failed Mideast policy;
    . A corrupt Administration that has been less than truthful with the American People;
    . And continued dependence on our enemies for our Energy Requirements.
    . Etc.

    Obama is the worst President this country has had bar none... Thus making the 2012 Electorate the worst in American istory Bar none...

    Romney would have been better,much better.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 2, 2013 11:03 p.m.

    I heard a man say that the re-election of Barack Obama will go down as probably the worst event that occured in his lifetime... He was then corrected by a younger woman who said that it would also go down as the worst event that happened in her childrens lifetime and probably their children's lifetime as well...

    I believe that the people who re-elected him have not felt much of the pain yet... Those who feel the pain are the ones who pay the taxes and flip the entitlement bills...

    These bills however, are stacking up and Bernanke cannot print money fast enough to cover... I predict that before Obama leaves office this economic hous of cards will fall apart... The Dollar will dive in value, people's savings and retirement nest eggs will be worth less than half their current value, demand will shrivel because of the lack of currency, that will cause a cascade of lay-offs and the vicious cycle will repeat... Greece will look like a block party in comparison to what happens here...

    Don't mean to sound so negative but I own 4 small businesses and I see the decay beginning...

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    July 2, 2013 11:10 p.m.

    Romney's disdain of the middle class was his undoing. Sorry Mitt, if I want to be a peasant, I'll move to China (or the Cayman Islands.)

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    July 3, 2013 5:43 a.m.

    Romney lost that vote.

    He should have followed his instincts and been true to himself rather than bending like a reed in the wind. He stood for nothing and it showed.

  • The Scientist Provo, UT
    July 3, 2013 7:36 a.m.

    Romney... the sour grapes of Utah, The Republican Party, and Mormons everywhere. Mittens will go down in their collective (emphasis on collective) memory to augment the collective persecution complex at the core of their collective psyche.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 3, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    From "Chicago Magazine" in March 2006:

    "On November 3, 2004, the day after he was elected to the U.S. Senate with a record 70 percent of the Illinois vote, Barack Obama declared, "I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office" in 2008. Sitting for an interview late last year in his Senate office on the 39th floor of the Loop's Kluczynski Federal Building, Obama pledges the same thing: his "game plan" on taking office, he says, included "not going national but staying focused on being an Illinois senator.""

    Oops, Obama supporters, it sounds like Obama is not much different than Romney in this regard. I find it funny how whenever Romney changes his mind (like with abortion), he's a "flip-flopper", but when (not if) Obama breaks his promise or changes his mind (like with "open and transparent" government and his stance on gay marriage), he is "evolving". That's if the liberal media would even cover his errors or flaws (they must work double-time to try to ignore his faults; better for them to paint them as strengths and good qualities).

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    July 3, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    According to the article we see Romneys disdain for others including those running in his own party.

    In effect he could not get his own party to back him let alone anyone from the other party. This lends insight of how he would have been able to accomplish anything in Washington. There has never been a candidate who got caught telling more tall tales than did Mitt and when caught would come up with new ones.

    Allan Greenspan came out after the fact and said Romneys financial plan would have crippled this country. Military advisors have said the chance of going to war with Mitt would have been 70% vs 22% with Pres Obama. Does anyone think we can afford another debacle such as the gulf war?

    Neither of these two candidates had the backbone of Ron Paul and so neither will deliver what he promised but chances are the country is better off today vs Romney being president.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    July 3, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    If I owned four small businesses, and could see with poyman's clarity how everything is about to collapse in the economy, I would sell out as quickly as possible and take the cash to another country (another planet?) where I could start over. I would not drive down the price of my dwindling assets by forecasting another upcoming disaster.

  • Bob A. Bohey Marlborough, MA
    July 3, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    Just more evidence that this country dodged a bullet when Mr. Romney was defeated.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    July 3, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Awe yes "the reluctant president" would have been a great meat puppet for the neocons and corporate America, since his heart was never in it, right?

    Grasping at straws and predicting the future of a different reality is a lot of fun, but completely useless.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 3, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    @Mark B, I am in the process...

    @ Romney haters... Your day is coming and when it does I hope you remember what I said ... y'all brought it on yourselves...

    Sorry about all the type o's, my computer has a bad case of the "skips" and I am not catching all of them obviously...

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 3, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    @ The anti-Romney people...

    Here's an idea... Why don't y'all try refuting the Obama report card I laid out which I can back up with references as opposed to attacking the guy with the opinions???

    From some of your comments it is clear to me that class warfare and entitlement lovers are alive and doing well even in the state of Utah...

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 3, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    @A Guy with a Brain
    "1st, Romney simply said what proved to be true: approximately 47% of voters are dependent on government checks in one form or another (welfare checks, housing assistance, and, yes, even Social Security) and would therefore not vote for ANY candidate who championed personal responsibility and a general weaning off of federal government funds (better known as "YOUR tax dollars")."

    Then how come seniors are a reliable Republican base and how come Romney won Mississippi, the state with the highest percentage of people among the 47%ers? He seemed to write them off as if all of them would vote for Obama, but that wasn't true at all.

    @poyman
    "Record unemployment levels;"

    Only because of population growth, the highest % unemployment was the Great Depression.

    ". Lower average earnings per household (by $4k a year);"

    He inherited a pretty big recession...

    ". Highest number of foreclosure in the countries history;
    . Greatest growth of food stamp recipients since the program was implemented;
    . Greatest growth of people with earnings below the poverty level;"

    You really don't know how population growth works do you?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 3, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    @poyman
    "I believe that the people who re-elected him have not felt much of the pain yet... Those who feel the pain are the ones who pay the taxes and flip the entitlement bills... "

    Your federal tax rates haven't changed unless you make over 250k a year and if you do they only went up to still below clinton levels (since the estate tax didn't go all the way back up, nor did the capital gains tax).

    "The Dollar will dive in value"

    That prediction has been made for over 4 years...btw how's that gold investment working out for you all? I read that it took a massive dive the last few months.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 3, 2013 10:43 a.m.

    @poyman
    "Why don't y'all try refuting the Obama report card I laid out which I can back up with references as opposed to attacking the guy with the opinions??? "

    Pretty much every stat you listed can be traced to "Obama or McCain would've been in that position because they inherited an economy that lost 700k jobs January 2009". The rest of the things you listed were opinion based (falling opinion amongst allies which is hardly the case).

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 3, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    I'm saddened to read Mitt didn't really want to seek that government job after all...

    Maybe next time...

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    July 3, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Fury 1883:

    Romney was EXACTLY what this country needed, and you and your ilk knew it but voted for THE WORST "leader" to ever inhabit the White House.

    atl134:

    Obama "inherited" the greatest country on earth, with the most powerful military on earth, with the greatest economic engine, etc., etc., etc., and HE didn't have the brains to know what to do with it. He has gutted the U.S. Military, has driven our economy into the ground, and tried to lead like a dictator. Does not have a clue what America is all about. Loves himself. Hates the U.S. Constitution. Loves Socialism. And you most likely would vote for him a third time if given the chance.

  • New to Utah PAYSON, UT
    July 3, 2013 12:01 p.m.

    Deseret News performs a valuable service in printing this article on Mitt Romney. It has little to do with sour grapes or whining but allowing those interested the ability to civily discuss a crucial election. The economic plan Romney had; included energy independence,strengthening the military and making tough choices for economic growth. Obama style politics are a blood sport, nasty Chicago style anything goes. I think many do not realize how totally invested in winning at all costs the current Democrat Party is. Everything is based on strategy and politics including Obamacares fine on businesses delayed till 2015 after the 2014 elections. Involving oneself in politics in liberal states one sees the length and breadth liberals will go literally no stone will not be turned. Look how the media just blatantly supported Obama and attacked Romney. We need to learn and be prepared the election is over but the learning has just begun.

  • maclouie Falconer, NY
    July 3, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    RockOn - RightOn!

    I think Romney will run again. Don't know why I think that, but I think that.

    With regards to Furry 1993: People who don't change their mind never grow up. Many who were critical of Romney seeming to change his mind either did not hear or read what he said or dont understand principles of growth and personal improvement. It's also an indication that someone can think. I guess Furry never changed his own mind, even from birth. But that does not mean Furry is a bad person. Everyone is entitle to their limited perspective and understanding of things.

    BTW, Anybody forget Carter? I never thought there could be a president worse than Carter. Then came B.O.

  • not here COLORADO SPRINGS, CO
    July 3, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    Too all of you that keeps saying Romney's great Romney's wonderful and w would have been this and he would have been that just how do you know? And in your own little world maybe would have been. But the people has spoken and they did not want him so it's time to get over he lost the other won end of story. And as far as him being brought up in the paper all the time is just rehashing the past. And how bad he lost.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    July 3, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Tom in CA said: "Obama "inherited" the greatest country on earth, with the most powerful military on earth, with the greatest economic engine, etc., etc., etc., "

    Except the Engine had a blown head gasket, and the most powerful, most expensive military machine was busy working for president Cheney's money maker in Iraq.

    I guess if someone gives you a VW bug and tells you it's a ferrari, you have a ferrari?

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    July 3, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    " ...... Except the Engine had a blown head gasket ..... "

    And any good mechanic knows how to fix a blown head gasket. Sorry - BO is not qualified for the job.

    VW Bug?? - Says a lot about your perspective of America.

  • LDSareChristians Anchorage, AK
    July 3, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    maclouie posted: I think Romney will run again. Don't know why I think that, but I think that.

    I had a dream a week or so after the last presidential election, wherein a discussion was taking place and an off the cuff reference to Mitt winning the election was made.

    I have been at peace ever since......

  • Gregorio Norco, CA
    July 3, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    Mitt is a class act. He is truly an example of american citizenry who love God, family and Country.
    By their fruits you shall know them.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 3, 2013 5:03 p.m.

    @Tom in CA
    "He has gutted the U.S. Military, has driven our economy into the ground"

    Gutted the military? We spend just as much as we ever have on warmaking. As for the economy... his worst month for jobs was the -700k January 2009, notably the month he wasn't president for until 2/3 the way through it. Within a year we were back to gaining jobs which we have done, albeit at a less than ideal rate, since then. That's not "driving our economy into the ground". It's not fantastic but it's not making things worse which is kind of a requirement when suggesting something is being driven into the ground.

    "And you most likely would vote for him a third time if given the chance."

    Probably. I've seen the stuff Republicans propose lately, it's not very appealing. They might talk a good game (I'd like to see more fiscal responsibility) but I dislike the methods they want to use to get to their goals (where somehow "shared sacrifice" includes giving rich people tax cuts and increases in defense spending, the latter of which you obviously advocate).

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 3, 2013 6:29 p.m.

    @ atl134 - Salt Lake City, UT - @A Guy with a Brain
    "1st, Romney simply said what proved to be true: approximately 47% of voters are dependent on government checks in one form or another (welfare checks, housing assistance, and, yes, even Social Security) and would therefore not vote for ANY candidate who championed personal responsibility and a general weaning off of federal government funds (better known as "YOUR tax dollars")."

    Then how come seniors are a reliable Republican base and how come Romney won Mississippi, the state with the highest percentage of people among the 47%ers? He seemed to write them off as if all of them would vote for Obama, but that wasn't true at all."

    atl134 -

    How come seniors are a reliable Republican base? Because seniors (generally) become more conservative as they get older. What about that fact don't you understand? More importantly, what does that have to do with my 3 reasons as to why Romney is not in fact selfish.

    How come Romney won Mississippi? Because the South is, as a whole, becoming more and more conservative. Gone are the days of the Bible Belt states being reliably Democrat.

    Like Staples: "Gee, that was easy."

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    July 3, 2013 9:10 p.m.

    Romney running for President again?
    Those of you dreaming Mitt fans appear to be hallucinating.
    With all the negative stuff on the Romney resume? No one in any political party will bankroll or support another run from the guy "who never really wanted to run, anyway".
    Time to wake up! Best brain work is accomplished when not in a dream state, folks.