Perhaps there is hope for the Constitution. This was a States' Rights
issue. Hopefully, there will be liberty minded people in Utah that will
unashamedly stand up for the real definition of Marriage! The great thing about
not being contentious is smiling while standing up for the truth. If that is
contentious to someone else, so be it! As Robert Frost said, "Life goes
on!" In Utah, this was a great victory for clarification. Perhaps we can
now get on with other States' Rights issues that will return our country to
a more Constitutional setting. Other States will continue to sputter about
this, but it is over in Utah! Awesome! Perhaps Utah will lead out on other
issues. Go Mike Lee!
The SCOTUS decision today was not an affirmation of gay marriage. It was a
narrowly defined case of standing. The defendants could not prove that upholding
DOMA or repealing it would have any effect on that group. However, plaintiffs
clearly showed that DOMA did have an immediate and negative effect on them and
others. When people argue that we need a system in place that protects
traditional marriage all we have to do is look to your spiritual leaders. My
church has recognized gay marriage for over 20 years. My state has not. The
Catholic church and other churches do not recognize gay marriage. However, 12
states do recognize gay marriage. No one, anywhere has proposed any laws that
would force churches to marry LGBT couples if the tenants of that church
doesn't allow for gay marriage.This was the right decision by SCOTUS.
Gov. Herbert: "I support and will continue to defend Utah's
constitutional definition of marriage as the legal union between a man and a
woman. I also believe that discrimination has no place in society. I hope we can
find a path that protects all from discrimination while defending the sanctity
of traditional marriage."Discrimination. You use that word a
lot. I do not think it means what you think it does./princess bride
This is a victory for the rights of people, individuals, over mobs or states.
Rights that accrue to me should not be removed because you don't like them.
I know and will always defend that marriage between a man and a woman is
ordained of God. Just because the courts state that gay marriage is lawful and
okay does not make it right. The Supreme Court's decision has caused a huge
division among the people of the United States. It is also flexing it's
power over states rights and the rights of citizens who have voted in their
@banderson --"it is over in Utah!"Ya wanna
bet?Lawsuits have already been filed challenging the
constitutionality of Utah's ban on gay marriage. The arguments put forth by
SCOTUS in killing section 3 of DOMA will help in those lawsuits.Don't get too comfy with your pipe dreams just yet. Things are going to
be changing in a big way over the next few years.
AmazonDoc: You can do all you want to Mock God's laws, but you can't
silence the voice of God. He will be heard and no one will silence my voice. A
great division is happening and I couldn't be happier about it. To actually
know that people are going to have to be forced to choose which side he/she is
on is absolute joy for me. If there is anyone with a pipe dream it is those who
think that God is up there chuckling about being Mocked! His day is coming.
Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that He is the Christ and His laws
will be abided, including those who want to make their own laws while mocking
Him. The real men will now have to stand up! It sounds like Tennessee has one
less than I thought!
@bandersen --"You can do all you want to Mock God's
laws"Fortunately, I'm not mocking "God's Laws"
at all. :-)Also fortunately, we don't live in a theocracy.
Thank God for that!"He will be heard and no one will silence my
voice."Now you sound as though you think YOU are the Voice of
God.Sorry, b -- you aren't. Many religious people disagree with
you. Many Christians and Jews SUPPORT gay marriage. Many Christian and Jewish
denominations are already happy to perform gay marriages.You
don't get to dictate what the "correct" view of "God's
Laws" is. Only God knows the truth -- NOT you."The real men
will now have to stand up! It sounds like Tennessee has one less than I
thought!"I guess so -- since I'm actually a woman. ;-D
Dear Utahns,Please stay out of California politics and we will
politely stay out of yours,Sincerely,Bruce Walter