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  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    June 25, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    When you compare the guys offered by Utah, USU, and byu over the past several years and look at how many picked Utah, how many picked USU, and how many picked byu, it's clear the kids prefer to play in a prestigious BCS conference, for a coach that has an undefeated season, a BCS bowl game, a BCS bowl win, the last bowl win over Alabama, a top 2 finish.....

    Go Utes!

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    June 25, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    There will always be kids that want the warm fuzzy devotional college experience.

    And I respect that.

    Then there will be others that want to play for a real chance at BCS success.

    And no, the BCS essentially is staying the same.

    Unless you think significant(Formerly BCS) bowls will be lining up to sign agreements with "non-Notre Dame independents"

    LOL

    Nope, they wont.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 25, 2013 9:23 a.m.

    Welcome to Fuga and Takitaki. Picking BYU over a cellar dweller in a "prestigious BCS conference" was a good move. With BYU you'll get to play in some of the best venues in college football (Texas Memorial Stadium, Bronco Stadium (Boise State), Memorial Stadium (Nebraska), Michigan Stadium, Camp Randall (Wisconsin), and Notre Dame Stadium). You'll also get to go bowling in the post season and be ranked most of the time. Welcome to Cougar Nation!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2013 9:24 a.m.

    CB,
    If they want a REAL CHANCE fo play for BCS success they will pick another PAC 11+U college or anothe conference.
    By the way this was an article on BYU in case you didn't notice but thenks for the love of all things BYU.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Mr. B,
    In case you missed it this was a BYU article about BYU winning out over Utah on a great recruit.
    Please try to keep up.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 25, 2013 9:35 a.m.

    Welcome Teancum. We're happy to have another Fuga in the fold. Romney probably doesn't get enough credit from fans for his role in BYUs outstanding defense, but in the 3-4 the NT is probably the most important position, and Romney was a beast. Looking forward to watching what Teancum can do.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 25, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    Christopher - Why did U change your screen name?

    Your comments fall on deaf ears when both of these commits turned down offers from significant BCS programs, including U, to play for the Cougs.

    I can only think of two significant commits that BYU really went after since you've been in the PAC that chose U over BYU - Langi and Hansen. And who knows what they'll do after their missions.

    Just look at a few of the BYU commits that have chosen BYU over BCS schools (or whatever the new term is) - Hinds, Kearsly, Williams, Hine, Takitaki, Fuga, Peoples, Hill, Kaufusi, Mangum, and the list goes on. Do you want me to continue?

    Don't worry about us, we're doing just fine. U may want to focus your efforts on getting your team to the New Mexico Bowl and stop worrying about the Cougs.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    June 25, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    christy

    If they want to play for a perennial Top 25 bowl team, they'll pick BYU.

    If the want to play for an unranked, conference bottom dweller that only plays in the couch potato bowl, they'll pick Utah.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 25, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Both look like good gets though Fuga isn't showing up on Scout or Rivals. They seem to have gotten a few so far for 2014 though hopefully they're able to hold-off USC (Warner) and Wisconsin.

    Chris, from reading your comments one would think the Utes were tearing up the recruiting trail. Glad to see you haven't lost your touch.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 25, 2013 10:19 a.m.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Romney goes in the first 3 rounds of the draft. He is a beast and I agree, does not get enough credit. This is a great pick-up for the Y to get his younger brother.

    GO UTES!!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 25, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    Christopher B:

    Being mauled, and embarrassed in the PAC 12 is not very enticing for recruits.

    The utes enable more PAC 12 teams to bowl eligibility with easy wins, by helping with gaining six victories. That's what bottom feeders do.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 25, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "With BYU you'll get to play in some of the best venues in college football (Texas Memorial Stadium, Bronco Stadium (Boise State), Memorial Stadium (Nebraska), Michigan Stadium, Camp Randall (Wisconsin), and Notre Dame Stadium)."

    But on the downside, without agreeing to a 2-for-1 scheduling arrangement some of the best names in college football (i.e. Nebraska, Michigan) WON'T be making any return games to WACistan. Instead, you'll have to settle for Home-&-Homes with powerhouses in the Sun Belt, like Middle Tennessee.

  • SoCal Roger Costa Mesa, CA
    June 25, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    I have known the Fuga Family for many many years. The Fuga Family is one of the most humble that I know. Their faith in their church is the center of their lives. They have balanced their lives between church and sports, they know that football is important but not everything.

    I commend Teancum and his choice to follow his older brothers on a religious mission. Teancum will be successful not only at BYU, but in his life too.

    Go Blue!

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    June 25, 2013 11:16 a.m.

    I dont know if Gurney just couldn't get a hold of Takitaki, but I think he is a better prospect than Fuga. Fuga will be exactly what you expect, which is great, but I think Takitaki could play in the NFL someday. Check out his highlights on 'hudl'

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 25, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Naval Vet:
    "But on the downside, without agreeing to a 2-for-1 scheduling arrangement some of the best names in college football (i.e. Nebraska, Michigan) WON'T be making any return games to WACistan. Instead, you'll have to settle for Home-&-Homes with powerhouses in the Sun Belt, like Middle Tennessee".

    Yep, such is the price of being an independent. Before joining the PAC how many big name programs that visited Provo even came to Salt Lake City, let alone home and home (Texas, USC, Michigan, ND, GT, Penn State, Washington, Florida St, etc)? None. U had to settle for the 2nd tier programs like Arizona, Louisville, & Pitt. The only reason they're coming now is because of the PAC12. Utah is a charity case for the PAC12, syphoning off money they don't bring, and riding conference coat tails to get home & homes they could never get on their own. It's ok, lots of people need charity in these tough times, not everyone can go it alone like BYU. Wiscoug is still right...VISITING CFB landmarks like ND stadium is exciting to a recruit.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 25, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    I'll take a 2 for 1 that puts me in Camp Randall, Texas Memorial, Notre Dame, etc. any day over scheduling home and homes against Colorado, Washington State, and Fresno State. Would home and homes against elite competition be great? Yes. So as an independent BYU is working on getting those contracts.

    With all the scheduling obstacles BYU has had, their current schedule is awesome. They have a few great home games, several incredible away games, and they are traveling all over the country. If I lived in Utah I might feel differently, but I'm thrilled that I get to see BYU play every year or two here in the midwest. Also, having a few cupcakes on the schedule is good (to balance things out). I love that our surefire win games are also spread around the country instead of having to go to CU and WSU every other year. The goal was exposure and that's what BYU is getting. (I look forward to you taking that one out of context). Go Cougs!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 25, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "I love that our surefire win games are also spread around the country instead of having to go to CU and WSU every other year."

    I believe you mean that all your surefire win game were spread around WAC country. Or did you mean you're future "exposure" games into recruiting hotbeds like Murfressboro? Either way, weak SOS.

    I'm glad that you're happy with your very midmajorey scheduling arrangements. I'm glad too. I think it's hilarious.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 25, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan

    "With BYU you'll get to play in some of the best venues in college football (Texas Memorial Stadium, Bronco Stadium (Boise State), Memorial Stadium (Nebraska), Michigan Stadium, Camp Randall (Wisconsin), and Notre Dame Stadium)."

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    Did you just put Bronco Stadium in the same category as Michigan, Texas, and Nebraska?

    I can't stand watching Boise home games, can't imagine playing on smurf truf is a plus. Bronco Stadium is atrocious as Roos Field (Eastern Washington).

  • Oregonian Sherwood, OR
    June 25, 2013 12:44 p.m.

    Awesome!! Another top recruit taking Utah because of its BCS membership and all of our revenue we get. You just can't beat membership in the BCS and playing for the Rose Bowl year-in and year-out...

    wait...

    oops...

    Well, of course he picked BYU. He isn't good enough to play for a BCS school. I don't see any stars next to his name. Obviously Whittingham didn't want him otherwise he'd be playing for Utah.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 25, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    More domination to come.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    June 25, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    " ........ Then there will be others that want to play for a real chance at BCS success..."

    You mean like USC & Oregon??

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    June 25, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    @Naval Vet:

    You should feel a bit hypocritical for putting any other team down for playing smaller schools as long as Utah still has teams like Weber State on their schedule. Actually, Weber State did win more games than Colorado last year... who also happens to be on your schedule.

    @Uteology:

    It's pretty much a given that most college football programs consider it more prestigious to play Boise at Bronco stadium than they do to play Utah at whatever it's field is called. Not many teams walk off that blue field with wins. And those that do almost always move up in national poll rankings.

    @Oregonian:

    Are you really so naive as to even insinuate that Whittingham gets every recruit he wants and goes after? Wow. You just lost a lot of online credibility with that one... with both BYU and Utah fans alike. Even grade school football fans know better than that.

  • Cougsrock original Maricopa, Az
    June 25, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    Oregonian

    The article mentiond Utah made him an offer. I guess you missed that part.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 25, 2013 3:07 p.m.

    won84--

    "Chris, from reading your comments one would think the Utes were tearing up the recruiting trail. Glad to see you haven't lost your touch."

    Hysterical witnessing 2-Star byu fan attempt to talk trash regarding recruiting, particularly when their most recently completed recruiting class is still fresh. Of 28 commits, their 2013 haul consisted of 19 2-Stars. Yes, you read it correctly--19!

    Per Scout as well, of their 8 recruits listed to date for 2014, 4 are 2-Stars. Of UTAH's listed 6, only 1 is. byu's avg Stars is 2.50, while UTAH's is 3.00.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    June 25, 2013 3:43 p.m.

    Tators and Cougsrock,

    I guess you guys missed Oregonian's sarcasm. Pretty sure he's a card-carrying Cougar.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    June 25, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    Way to go Tico (Teancum), will be excited to see you play for BYU in a few years and a nice surprise with Sione! It is pretty exciting how BYU is able to sign good players and help them get better!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 25, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    Give credit where credit is due ... two nice recruiting wins by BYU.

    That said, will someone please take note that BYU offered AFTER Utah. Maybe this can put to rest the silly assertions that Utah follows BYU offers with offers of their own. Both coaches and programs will offer who they see fit and it will not always coincide or have anything to do with the other. In fact it often has more to do with when the coaches get to see the recruit in their own camp or one of a million other things.

    Again, congrats to BYU and good luck to these young men.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 25, 2013 4:03 p.m.

    Sounds great! I don't know these kids from Adam, and won't pull an azute1 and pretend that I know anything about rating recruits just because I watched a Youtube highlight, but it is always nice to hear some well thought of kids are going to join the program. Congratulations boys, can't wait to see you in blue!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 25, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    Oregonian
    Sherwood, OR

    Well done!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 25, 2013 4:16 p.m.

    Per Scout, 19 of 2-Star byu's 28 commits from 2013 were rated 2-Stars. Of the 8 commits they list to date for 2014, 4 are rated 2-Stars. Their avg Star-rating is 2.50. Beyond impressive!

    To clarify, the article stated that Fuga, who's nowhere to be found on Scout, received offers from UTAH, bsu & usu. Again, this is solely per this article's author, Brandon Gurney.

    Regarding Takitaki, Scout lists his only other offers from ua, UNR, SDSU, SJSU, WAZZU & WISC. However, he was never offered by UTAH!

  • Cougsrock original Maricopa, Az
    June 25, 2013 4:34 p.m.

    Vet. Any yet they both chose BYU over PAC 12 bottom feeders

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    June 25, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    Good luck to Fuga. Always a difficult choice. Hope he can achieve the same level of success as his bro.
    Just hope your best game isn't against our utes!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2013 5:27 p.m.

    Oregonian,
    Try to keep up here. We will type slower for you. Utah and Whit did offer so he must be good enough to play for a BCS school. He chose BYU over Utah. Live with it and move on to Utah articles.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 25, 2013 5:31 p.m.

    wwookie,
    Thanks for showing some class. Please help your fellow ute fans.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    June 25, 2013 5:54 p.m.

    @AZUTE1

    You can enjoy your ute "stars"

    While we are enjoying watching BYU in bowl games and playing Texas and Notre dame, et al.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 25, 2013 6:56 p.m.

    It's easy to understand why a player would commit to BYU. It is hard to understand turning the Cougars down. not many are qualified. Few are offered the opportunity to play for BYU, the honor alone should be enough to get most to commit.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 25, 2013 7:48 p.m.

    Looks like Chrissy B. and Naval Vet are getting vewee, vewee nervous.......

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 25, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    azute

    "...while UTAH's is 3.00"... which is < USC, Oregon, Stanford averages.

    When will you Utesies start comparing yourselves to your PAC10.2 brothers.

    Oh, that's right, they don't care about their little sister's LOW star ratings either.

    Bwaaaaaah!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 25, 2013 8:02 p.m.

    @AZUte

    For the umpteenth time...

    Paul Kruger was two star.
    Dennis Pitta was a walk on.
    Steve Young wasn't even a blue-chipper
    The last two Super Bowl QB's were 3 stars.

    Ute fans, listen up, your competition is not BYU anymore, but real football legacy schools in the Pac, all of which have more history and prestige than U ever can or will have.
    Your False Bravado is wearing thin.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 25, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    It must be very embarrassing having a losing record, staying home for bowl season, and being winless against any conference team with a winning record when you have 4 star athletes and are such a recruiting juggernaut.

  • Florwood American Fork, UT
    June 25, 2013 8:59 p.m.

    Can't wait till Teancum becomes a team captain...

  • LDS-BYU Convert ALPINE, UT
    June 25, 2013 11:53 p.m.

    I heard from Brett Richins who met with Teancum the day before he committed and learned that he is 6'1" 285 lbs so not as big as Romney and not big enough yet (could grow into it though) to play NT at BYU. Who is right about his current height and weight?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 26, 2013 9:42 a.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    (Wiscougarfan) "I love that our surefire win games are also spread around the country instead of having to go to CU and WSU every other year."

    I believe you mean that all your surefire win game were spread around WAC country. Or did you mean you're future "exposure" games into recruiting hotbeds like Murfressboro? Either way, weak SOS."

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    Yes, this forum has focused on recruits and schedules moving forward, which for BYU includes ZERO WAC teams. And yes, "exposure" games in Virginia, Texas, Indiana, Florida, Tennessee, Nebraska, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, Maryland, Ohio, Idaho, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Washington work well for BYU's recruiting strategy which is becoming more national than it has in the past. Case in point: 25 of the 29 scholarship offers extended to 2014 recruits (and 7 of 9 commitments) are from outside the state of Utah (in seven different states).

    As for weak SOS... Phil Steele, who you said is the most reliable source in college football, has BYU's 2013 SOS ranked #25, just behind Utah's (#18) and ahead of EVERY OTHER SEASON IN UTAH HISTORY. Claiming the #25 ranked SOS is "weak" is illogical, even for a troll.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 26, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    "But on the downside, without agreeing to a 2-for-1 scheduling arrangement some of the best names in college football (i.e. Nebraska, Michigan) WON'T be making any return games to WACistan. Instead, you'll have to settle for Home-&-Homes with powerhouses in the Sun Belt, like Middle Tennessee."

    Naval - you're correct, the elite are going to be 2:1 and probably will be for some time. When you win multiple national championships you can dictate terms. And you're correct, no one will be going to Wacistan (does it border Waziristan?) but, Texas, Wisconsin, and ND will be returning to Provo.

    But, what is wrong with a home and home with Virginia or Georgia Tech? That's better than the Sun Belt you mentioned though I think BYU's only playing one Sun Belt team. So stating it as if it's the norm makes about as much sense as continuing on about the WAC...and we all know someone who is into that :)

    Get some fresh air, go for a run and enjoy the view of the Wasatch Front. There are things more enjoyable than worrying about BYU's schedule, guarantee it

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 26, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    "AZUTE1

    Mesa, AZ

    won84--

    'Chris, from reading your comments one would think the Utes were tearing up the recruiting trail. Glad to see you haven't lost your touch.'

    Hysterical witnessing 2-Star byu fan attempt to talk trash regarding recruiting, particularly when their most recently completed recruiting class is still fresh. Of 28 commits, their 2013 haul consisted of 19 2-Stars. Yes, you read it correctly--19!

    Per Scout as well, of their 8 recruits listed to date for 2014, 4 are 2-Stars. Of UTAH's listed 6, only 1 is. byu's avg Stars is 2.50, while UTAH's is 3.00."

    Bro, you should attend one of my game watching parties before you call me a 2-Star fan. Just sayin'.

    Regarding recruiting, I didn't claim BYU was tearing it up. Chris' criticism of what are two good gets for BYU just made it sound like the Utes are competing with USC for Fred Warner type recruits when in reality they're in the neighborhood of Washington St. and Arizona.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 26, 2013 10:11 a.m.

    @ Wisccoug

    Nice pick up. Beating out Utah and Boise State speaks well for his talent. I hope he works out for the Y.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 26, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    "Spokane Ute

    Spokane, WA

    @ Wisccoug

    Nice pick up. Beating out Utah and Boise State speaks well for his talent. I hope he works out for the Y."

    But he doesn't have any stars next to his name on Scout so how can he be any good? :)

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 26, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    RE: Spokane Ute

    "Nice pick up. Beating out Utah and Boise State speaks well for his talent. I hope he works out for the Y."

    Cheers. I'm not sure you meant that as a compliment or in sarcasm but will assume the former. I also see Utah and Boise State as two solid programs, so getting a commit that early in the recruiting process that already has offers from these three programs bodes well for BYU's 2014 recruiting class.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 11:14 a.m.

    wiscougarfan--

    "As for weak SOS... Phil Steele, who you said is the most reliable source in college football, has BYU's 2013 SOS ranked #25, just behind Utah's (#18) and ahead of EVERY OTHER SEASON IN UTAH HISTORY. Claiming the #25 ranked SOS is "weak" is illogical, even for a troll."

    Nice try! Phil Steele ranks 2-Star byu's 2013 SOS precisely at #49 and UTAH's precisely at #12! No comparison!

    In other words, 2-Star byu's SOS is barely ranked inside of the top 50% of the nation! Good times!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    won84--

    "Regarding recruiting, I didn't claim BYU was tearing it up. Chris' criticism of what are two good gets for BYU just made it sound like the Utes are competing with USC for Fred Warner type recruits when in reality they're in the neighborhood of Washington St. and Arizona."

    Hysterical! You act as if Fred Warner were an Elite 4-/5-Star recruit or something! Per Scout, he's listed as a 3-Star recruit and, get this, he's also been offered by both WAZZU and Arizona! Hysterical!

    BTW, per Scout, WAZZU has 1 less commit than 2-Star byu does to date, yet their avg Stars stands at 2.57, while 2-Star byu's now stands at 2.25! Hysterical!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    won84--

    "Texas, Wisconsin, and ND will be returning to Provo"

    Texas also visits Laramie, WISC also visits Fresno/Las Vegas and ND is headed to provo after 2-Star byu makes multiple-visits to South Bend, first!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 26, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    After your post I double checked, and you are right (it pains me to say that to a troll), I had looked at Phil Steele's blog that employed the "NCAA method," and under that BYU was ranked #25. I can't find his "toughest schedules for 2013" online, so I'll have to take your word for it.

    Even still, most of what I said still applies... BYU's rank of #49 would be among the top 5 Utah (and BYU) schedules of all-time. It's a great SOS, especially when you consider how diverse and balanced it is. Steele notes that BYU has eight marquee games this season (Utah has an impressive seven), and several of those are at home. Even better, BYU is projected to go 5-3 in those games, while Utah is projected to go 1-6. Go Cougs!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 12:15 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan

    "After your post I double checked, and you are right (it pains me to say that to a troll), I had looked at Phil Steele's blog that employed the "NCAA method," and under that BYU was ranked #25. I can't find his "toughest schedules for 2013" online, so I'll have to take your word for it."

    Actually, what you did was to go with what was stated on page 336, instead of what was stated on page 337, because the former would give some meat to your "argument", whereas the latter would blow it up, completely! Nice try!

    "It's a great SOS, especially when you consider how diverse and balanced it is."

    In other words, it's ripe with weeks-off in-between the tougher games! Gotcha!

    "Steele notes that BYU has eight marquee games this season (Utah has an impressive seven), and several of those are at home."

    Huh?

    "Even better, BYU is projected to go 5-3 in those games, while Utah is projected to go 1-6. Go Cougs!"

    The only thing this proves is that 2-Star byu is 2nd-to-none when it comes to the PRE-season! I absolutely love it!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 26, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    I know name calling is kind of a requirement for trolls, but you might want to rethink the "2-Star BYU" slight. True, that Utah usually wins the "recruiting battle" if you go by star rankings. BYU fans understand that BYU is a different kind of institution and recruiting well known (high star) athletes there is certainly a challenge. That being said, Utah has more 15 plus two-star recruiting classes (3) in the Mendenhall era than BYU (2) and the difference between the two in average recruiting team rankings is not very large.

    Further, trolls continually cite SOS as well as winning the recruiting battles as reasons for a superior program. Those are both measures of potential, not performance. BYU counters with rankings, a measure of performance. Pointing out star rankings and SOS just further shows how impressive BYU has been in their overall performance (doing more with less). Utah currently owns the head-to-head (another performance indicator), which is why debating the better program on these boards is so fun. Without that one performance indicator there would be no debate.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 26, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "The only thing this proves is that 2-Star byu is 2nd-to-none when it comes to the PRE-season! I absolutely love it!"

    Give me a break, pre-season SOS is what you continue to post about. The only difference between BYU and Utah's pre-season hype is that BYU is expected to win most of their games while Utah is expected to lose most of theirs.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned that 3-Star DE Isaiah Nacua has de-committed from 2-Star byu!

    His other 2 offers are from UTAH/ASU! Guess where he's likely to end up? LOL

    As it currently stands per Scout, 2-Star byu has 4 2-Stars, 3 3-Stars and 1 NR! Good times!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    wiscougarfan--

    "Further, trolls continually cite SOS as well as winning the recruiting battles as reasons for a superior program. Those are both measures of potential, not performance. BYU counters with rankings, a measure of performance. Pointing out star rankings and SOS just further shows how impressive BYU has been in their overall performance (doing more with less). Utah currently owns the head-to-head (another performance indicator), which is why debating the better program on these boards is so fun. Without that one performance indicator there would be no debate."

    Please! Only in your wildest fantasies is what you stated even remotely close to reality!

    Face it, 2-Star byu loses annually to UTAH and since UTAH joined The PAC-12, the gap in recruiting is widening rapidly! 2-Star byu has never played against a legitimate week-in, week-out grind of a schedule and their 2013 schedule is no different! Just simply look at UTAH's mid-season 8-game week-in, week-out grind for a comparison!

    2-Star byu pads their record against the NMSUs of College Football and hopes voters don't actually look at their body-of-work! Good times!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 12:58 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan

    "Give me a break, pre-season SOS is what you continue to post about. The only difference between BYU and Utah's pre-season hype is that BYU is expected to win most of their games while Utah is expected to lose most of theirs."

    That PRE-season trophy case of 2-Star byu's is on the verge of bursting! I absolutely love it!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 26, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    "That PRE-season trophy case of 2-Star byu's is on the verge of bursting! I absolutely love it!"

    I'm glad you love it and have such a positive outlook. After all, when Utah has very little in the trophy case, for pre or post season one might worry about ute nation being depressed. Good to know you're still drinking the crimson kool aid and all is well with you.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 26, 2013 5:19 p.m.

    @wisccoug

    Make no mistake; being sincere.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 26, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    @Tators

    @Uteology:

    It's pretty much a given that most college football programs consider it more prestigious to play Boise at Bronco stadium than they do to play Utah at whatever it's field is called. Not many teams walk off that blue field with wins. And those that do almost always move up in national poll rankings.

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    Huh? You're confusing "prestigious" with not risking a loss at Boise.

    Even then it's debatable that any ranked team would actually get dominated by Boise considering since 2001 the only ranked teams to play in Boise are:

    2011: TCU (11-2) won 36-35 ... moved up in the polls
    2009: Oregon (10-3) lost 19-8 ...
    2006: Oregon State (10-4) lost 42-14
    2001: Washington State (10-4) won 41-20 ... moved up in the polls

    So 4 ranked teams have played in Boise, record 2-2.

    If Boise is so prestigious why doesn't BYU sign a contract for 2-for-1 or 1 off deals like they have with Notre Dame, Texas, USC, Nebraska, and Wisconsin. You have as much a chance beating them then you do Boise.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 27, 2013 9:38 a.m.

    "AZUTE1

    Mesa, AZ

    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned that 3-Star DE Isaiah Nacua has de-committed from 2-Star byu!"

    I'm not, he committed at his father's death bed. This would be surprising but like most of your claims, nowhere to be found on the net...

  • Warrior Parent Belle Glade, FL
    June 27, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    Anae is definitely restoring the Poly connection. That is a wonderful thing. Good luck Teancum

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 27, 2013 11:29 p.m.

    According to SI.com Isaiah Nacua has re-opened his recruitment but still favors BYU. Not sure where AZUTE is getting the idea Utah is a favorite, even though they are being considered. Sounds to me like he was enduring an emotional time when he committed to BYU at his dying fathers request, and now wants to make sure he's made the right decision (he's also getting more interest from other PAC12 schools now). I know having his brother Kai still here at BYU could still bring him here because they are supposed to be pretty close. Nowhere that I read does it indicate that BYU is still not favored, or that Utah is the front runner. Then again that's the only source I found so maybe AZUTE has another source he's looking at, and can point us to that source.