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  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    June 23, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    I wish KVN and BYU the best this year! As any team member will tell you, and I'm sure KVN is one of them, great play by one person depends on teammates. Last year part of KVN's success may have been due to other teams often double-teaming Ziggie. If KVN can have as good a year as last year or better, it will certainly be very impressive. Last year, five of BYU's opponents finished in the top 25 and this year looks like it will be even tougher!

  • KVN/Hoff want 0-4 against UTAH Ogden, UT
    June 23, 2013 6:31 p.m.

    I wonder if van noy will be proud of his 0-4 record against Utah

    Never beat your rival, how embarrassing.

    Go utes!!

  • hobbes1012003 Kaysville, UT
    June 23, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    I truly hope Van Noy can produce again this year. He is an absolute stud and even if we lose to Utah again (cringe) he will still be a first round pick in the draft as most experts are already predicting. 2 years straight with a first round draft pick is pretty awesome and shows that BYU is on the right track. Go Cougs!

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    June 23, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    The more seasons go by, the more obvious it seems that Utah cares more about beating BYU than by actually getting a winning season. This is evidenced by Utah trolls and that infamous survey that was done. Utah plays very hard against BYU, but ends up losing to bad teams.

    Kyle Van Noy will have a great season.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    June 23, 2013 9:18 p.m.

    Heiseman. lol.

    Double digit wins. lol.

    Go Utes.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    June 23, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    Have never made a negative post regarding Van Noy and not going to break the trend here. He is a very dynamic player that seems to make a key play in most every game. Other than the game on September 21 I hope he has another big year.

    Was a bit surprised he didn't turn pro last year. Similar situation to Star last year in that it will be a challenge to put up bigger numbers in his senior season compared to his junior season as teams adjust game plans in an attempt to neutralize his skills.

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2013 9:53 p.m.

    As always, the BYU haters flock to these articles even when their name is not called. It is like flies at a picnic. I guess that the big reason why they feel they have to come over here is because nothing newsworthy in their camp has happened since they beat BYU. I have no problems with you cheering for the Utes, but keep it at that. Do not feel like you need to validate yourselves by coming constantly over onto the BYU articles.

    Go BYU Cougars!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    June 23, 2013 11:01 p.m.

    KVN/Hoff want 0-4 against UTAH:

    Hope to hear back from you and your cronies the evening of 9/21 to congratulate The Mighty Cougars. You can only hope for a utah win on that day, because my crystal ball says this year is going to be a major disappointment for you boys. The bottom of the barrel in the pac 11.1 is getting to be the norm.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 24, 2013 12:19 a.m.

    Those predicting Van Noy will be 0-4 against Utah also are among those who said the Utes would play in the Rose Bowl their first year in the conference. I wonder why they aren't spouting that prediction any more, especially after the way the Utes ran Colorado off the field in SLC (insert laughter here) the first year in PAC 12 play.

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    June 24, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    BYU's defense will still be good, but I don't think it'll be as good as last year. It'll still be a top 20 defense just not top 10. I'm hoping with Anae back that the offense kicks into high gear because ultimately what wins football games is points. Defense most of the time can't produce points enough to win, so here's hoping that BYU can show a glimmer of what they were even just 5 years ago on offense. If they do, it'll be a good season.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    Geez most byu fans more concerned about commenting on UTAH UTES than to utter even a single word on subject of article--KVN!

    KVN is solid, this is irrefutible. However, my comment is directed at these utterly ridiculous delusions within these articles.

    For instance, SCAR had #23 Ranked SOS. SCAR actually beats good teams, 1 Top 10 & 4 Top 30. SCAR finished 11-2. Where is it even remotely valid to compare the 2? Again, I respect KVN, but he's equally caught-up in enduring these utterly bizzare fantasies.

    Like that hysterical article stating it's possible 10 go early in NFL Draft next year or something for byu, when byu just had their 1st and only DP since Pitta in '10, neither of which were bm recruits, to boot! LOL

    No way possible KVN gets on seriously with Heisman talk, particularly in how byu doesn't beat good teams [excepting usu barely by 3-PTS at home], still weeks-off built into schedule, plus 2 bye-weeks, indy not named ND and byu returns just 4 starters on D. & O straight stinks!

    He'll produce, but not at same level as last year. Most of his supporting-cast long gone!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 24, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    since as it turns out, past performance IS apparently an indication of future results, then I guess we should all prepare to be disappointed in September, and then entertained as BYU and Utah State represent the state of Utah in the post season, while the Utes continue to be the best team sitting on the couch in December.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 8:06 a.m.

    toosmartforyou--

    "....especially after the way the Utes ran Colorado off the field in SLC (insert laughter here) the first year in PAC 12 play."

    Wasn't that during the same season we annihilated byu on their homefield, 54-10?

    Just checking! Thanks in advance!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 8:37 a.m.

    "To put that in perspective, South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney also had 13 sacks as well as 23.5 tackles for loss and he was a consensus All-American defensive end."

    The disparity between SCAR's resume & byu's is the size of The Grand Canyon, beginning with SOS, actually beating good teams, not just 1-YR wonder usu at home by 3-PTS, barely, etc., etc., etc., etc.!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 8:41 a.m.

    Would anything else be expected out of 2nd-Rate commentator on 2nd-Rate network byu-homer, Dennis Dodd? Not stating what he did, in the typically self-deluded, Heavens are shaking, byu-like fantasizing, is what would have actually been surprising! LOL

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 24, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    He's going to absolutely dominate.

  • E4Evry1 Cedar Hills, UT
    June 24, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    What I love about KVN is that even the Utes are coming out in force gobbling up his articles and leaving their comments. Some of them on all BYU articles. Although their comments are not positive, they certainly are Fully Invested into the BYU program.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 24, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    AZute, yes, you are correct. BYU had a bad quarterback that single-handedly gave Utah the game. Just look at the Utes first TD and the rest is history. But you forget that Utah had a greased schedule in the PAC 12 and Colorado was the worst road team in the nation. Utah had Norm Chow as OC and a secured trip to the PAC 12 Championship game IF....they could defeat Colorado in SLC. They laid an egg, sort of like when they lost to UNLV 27 - 0 and Whittingham said he didn't know why they lost! You might as well have beat BYU 500-10 the way you guys crow about it; that and your two BCS wins that no one remembers except your fans. Just who did you beat besides Alabama? I forget, as it was so long ago and not relevant any more. Was the game somewhere in Arizona or am I forgetful and mixed up on that point, too? Thanks for helping my memory of Ute accomplishments.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    toosmartforyou--

    "AZute, yes, you are correct. BYU had a bad quarterback that single-handedly gave Utah the game."

    I didn't bother to read further, as it's 100% predictable! The invalid-excuses flowing, per usual!

    FYI--UTAH forced 4 of the 7 TOs! Don't believe me? There's a video on YouTube exclusively covering only the 7 TOs!

    UTAH won by 44-PTS, not merely 7-10, and did so on their homefield, no less! What happened against CU in no way mitigates this complete massacre for byu, nothing does! One has nothing to do with the other, purely a tactic employed down there in utah county in an attempt to distract from/cope with UTAH's complete ownership of byu!

  • Cougzz St. George, UT
    June 24, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    U of U combined basketball and football records from the past two seasons: 34-53... and still talking trash.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 24, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    Gotta love the trolls that infer that individual defensive accomplishments have a direct correlation to beating elite teams. Hate to break it to you, but what KVN accomplished playing against elite competition (five ranked teams) is impressive any way you look at it. He drew more double teams than Ziggy (Ziggy was relatively unknown until after the season) and still filled the stat sheet. He also single handedly beat a good bowl team, and is now on Phil Steele's first team preseason all-american team. I agree that he'll get even more attention this year and his statistics will likely dip a little, but he'll be a game changer.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2013 10:05 a.m.

    AZUTE:
    You absolutely can't say anything nice or positive about BYU can you? Regardless of the fact that BYU has had successes, been national champs, had heisman trophy winners, Doak walker, Davey o Brien etc, etc...all you can do is spin using SOS and any other excuse you can find. There's a term for that...troll. I have given Utah props on many occasions when their accomplishments have warranted it. That's called thinking objectively, you might want to try it sometime if you desire any credibility. That said, thanks again for showing your unabashed obsession with all things BYU, and irrevocably proving what most BYU fans already know...beating BYU is more important to the utes than anything else they can accomplish.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    toosmartforyou--

    "AZute, yes, you are correct. BYU had a bad quarterback that single-handedly gave Utah the game."

    My cue to discontinue reading. Spin/Excuses galore!

    4 of 7 TOs were forced by UTAH. This is unequivocal! We won by 44-PTS, not 7 or less as with ultra-rare byu win.

    Referencing CU 2011 is 100% irrelevant. It in no way mitigates UTAH straight annihilating byu on their homefield, but rather serves merely as a tactic employed by byu fan as a distraction from/coping mechanism for UTAH's utter dominance of byu!

    Zero BCS Bowl Games, zero deep-runs in The Tourney, save Ainge 30+ years ago. National leader in Tourney appearances without ever reaching The Final Four!

    byu is the poster-child for playing weak-sauce schedules & getting utterly owned by their rival in the king of all sports, football, never beating a good team, save usu barely by 3-PTS at home and utter post-season futility across-the-board!

    6-5 in bowl games during this current BCS Era, whereas UTAH's 10-1, with multiple blowouts of byu, 2 undefeated seasons, BCS x 2, Top-4/-2 Final-Rankings, instate-recruiting dominance, etc., etc., etc., etc.!

  • Ironhide Salt Lake City, UT
    June 24, 2013 10:41 a.m.

    My favorite comments to read are utes bashing BYU in the many ways they do. Any negative comment made about BYU from a ute just puts utah deeper in the cellar. PLEASE continue to disparage BYU, most likely you're one of the thousands of ute fans that have only been a "fan" of the red for 10 years. I was attending utah when urban arrived and when he left. I actually thought it was great that the football team was having such success. But I will never forget how the athletic department had to GIVE AWAY 10-12 thousand tickets to fill the stadium at urbans request. BYU has accomplished a lot, been doing it for four decades, has more all americans, national college individual award winners, college hall of famers, superbowl winners, NFL hall of famers, and a national championship. utah does and will forever own the rivalry series. The culture on the hill since those games began has been and always will be, beat BYU, it's the only game that really matters. And that attitude has proven results. They get up for that game like no other. Don't get me wrong, I wish BYU had that mentality.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    No inference made, but rather fact stated!

    Nobody claims KVN isn't capable of excelling against a #23 SOS, such as the one SCAR played against in 2012, but the fact remains, he didn't do so and he won't ever get the opportunity to prove it on this level! And SDSU was barely decent, hardly worthy of any hype! LOL

    Look at the kids who win The Heisman Trophy and virtually always one will see him attached to a highly-successful team! This is fact, whether one accepts/denies it!

    In conclusion, nobody claims KVN isn't elite, but this article is clearly not based in reality! Just simply par for the course!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    cougsndawgs--

    "....beating BYU is more important to the utes than anything else they can accomplish."

    You can't get enough of Yours Truly! I absolutely love it!

    This is a commonplace-myth generated by byu fan which is purely wishful-thinking, nothing more. We respond to byu fans, correct their endless mistakes and when they attempt in vain to point their collective-finger at us, in an effort to "prove" they're somehow better, we effortlessly remind them of our complete dominance of them on the field-of-play and their auto-response to it is to erroneously conclude this palpable falsity of yours that beating byu is more important to us than all else! Logic 101!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Re; AZUTE1

    You know, you have commmented six times in a total of 23 posts (at this time, there will be more).

    You have made more than 25% of the total comments. And you think BYU fans are obsessed?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 24, 2013 11:47 a.m.

    "Van Noy's stat sheet practically screams for national attention. He tallied 13 sacks, 22 tackles for loss, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and two blocked kicks last season....To put that in perspective, South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney also had 13 sacks as well as 23.5 tackles for loss and he was a consensus All-American defensive end." -- Lafe Peavler

    But to put that in even MORE perspective, Clowney played in the SEC before facing off vs. Michigan in the postseason. Van Noy played WAC football before facing off vs. the team Brady Hoke left to coach at Michigan. Even with the toughest schedule the Band of Bunglers will have ever faced in the HISTORY of their program, it will STILL have been a weaker SOS than what So. Carolina faced last season.

    Per Phil Steele...

    2012 So. Carolina SOS: #21
    2012 Indy-WAC SOS: #68

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 11:51 a.m.

    Re: ekute and AZUTE1

    AP rankings

    BYU: Ranked in AP Poll: 11 Times (Preseason), 17 Times (Final), 236 Weeks (Total)
    Utah: Ranked in AP Poll: 2 Times (Preseason), 5 Times (Final), 77 Weeks (Total)

    Get back to us when U reach double digits in AP Top 25 finishes.

    It took U 119 seasons to reach FIVE!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 11:53 a.m.

    Re: AZUTE1 & ekute

    Sagarin's computer-generated rankings during the Bronco/Kyle era, along with the "human" rankings and team records:

    2005 unranked/#55 BYU(6-6) < unranked/#51 Utah(7-5)
    2006 #16/#15/#19 BYU(11-2) > unranked/#54 Utah(8-5)
    2007 #14/#15/#17 BYU(11-2) > unranked/#34 Utah(9-4)
    2008 #25/#21/#32 BYU(10-3) < #2/#4/#5 Utah(13-0)
    2009 #12/#12/#15 BYU(11-2) > #18/#18/#24 Utah(10-3)
    2010 unranked/#45 BYU(7-6) < ur/#23/#26 Utah(10-3)
    2011 ur/#25/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
    2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7)

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    Re: AZUT1 & ekute

    Best Seasons, based on rankings (which are the final measure of each season) and records

    1) #1/#1 BYU(13-0) 1984
    2) #2/#4 Utah(13-0) 2008
    3) #4/#5 Utah(12-0) 2004
    4) #5/#5 BYU(14-1) 1996
    5) #7/#7 BYU(11-1) 1983
    6) #10/#8 Utah(10-2) 1994
    7) #12/#12 BYU(12-1) 1980
    8) #12/#12 BYU(11-2) 2009
    9) #13/#11 BYU(11-2) 1981
    10) #13/#12 BYU(11-1) 1979
    11) #18/#10 BYU(10-3) 1994
    12) #14/#15 BYU(11-2) 2007
    13) #16/#15 BYU(11-2) 2006
    14) #16/#17 USU(11-2) 2012
    15) #16/#17 BYU(11-3) 1985
    16) #18/#18 Utah(11-2) 2009
    17) #20/#16 BYU(9-2) 1977
    18) #19/#18 USU(9-2) 1960
    19) #22/#17 BYU(10-3) 1990

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    Re: ekute & AZUTE1

    Bronco Vs Kyle
    AP Top 25 Finishes
    Bronco 4
    Kyle 2

    AP Top 15 Finishes
    Bronco 3
    Kyle 1

    Top 25 Finishes AP or Coaches
    Bronco 5
    Kyle 3

    Conference Championships
    Bronco 2
    Kyle 1

    Overall Record
    Bronco 74-29
    Kyle 70-32

    Bowl Games
    Bronco 8
    Kyle 7

    And, while Utah fans pretend that only the winning side of the ledger counts, let's not forget:

    Losses to 10-loss Teams
    Bronco 0
    Kyle 2

    Losses to conference bottom dwellers:
    Bronco 0
    Kyle 6 (Colorado, New Mexico(2), Wyoming, Colorado State, UNLV)

    Losing Seasons
    Bronco 0
    Kyle 1

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Re: AZUTE1 @ 11:42 am

    I don't care what you post because you really have no credibility here. I merely pointed out the quantity of comments you made. And, BTW you never answered my question.

    KVN is a premier nationally recognized linebacker which, barring injury, will have a fantastic year.

    To try and minimize his accomplishments and talent as you have done is just another failed attempt.

    Hope you are satisfied.

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    June 24, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    Re: Naval Vet @ 11:47 AM

    Why don't you give the final poll rankings for your Utes in 2012? You know, the polls also take into consideration SOS.

    BTW: KVN is a great linebacker. He has the numbers to prove it.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    June 24, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    This project poured over one billion dollars into the Salt Lake City economy during the largest economic depression many Americans can remember. It was a phenomenal stimulus to the economy during hard times. Amazing project. Please come and build one in my city also.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    MacNasty--

    "KVN is a premier nationally recognized linebacker which, barring injury, will have a fantastic year.

    To try and minimize his accomplishments and talent as you have done is just another failed attempt.

    Hope you are satisfied."

    Here's what I posted earlier--

    "KVN is solid, this is irrefutable."

    "Nobody claims KVN isn't capable of excelling against a #23 SOS, such as the one SCAR played against in 2012, but the fact remains, he didn't do so and he won't ever get the opportunity to prove it on this level!

    In conclusion, nobody claims KVN isn't elite, but this article is clearly not based in reality! Just simply par for the course!"

    I then stated how team-success is unequivocally tied-into an individual's ability to be in serious Heisman-contention, whether one agrees with it or not, and in this regard there's, literally, zero regarding byu and their resume which would qualify him for it.

    Please show where I, in fact, did as you accused me of doing per the following words of yours--

    "To try and minimize his accomplishments and talent as you have done is just another failed attempt.

    Hope you are satisfied."

  • Wingnut1 USA, UT
    June 24, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    Re Ekute
    Are you talking about Utah??

    Rose bowl? lol

    Any bowl game at all? lol

    Not even your "Star" last year could get you to one.

  • Chiro Portland, OR
    June 24, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    Re: MacNasty

    Sense you like to compare Kyle and Donco, what is there head to head record? That is the best way to determine things, yet you always forget to add that to your chart.

    Kyle is 5-3 against Donco with an average margin of victory of 41.4 to 20.4. 20+ Point difference
    Bronco is 3-5 against Kyle with an average margin of victory of 21.33 to 25.3.

    Who is better? Kyle/Utah

    Also what is your great record against TCU during the same timeframe? 2-5!
    Bottom finders? How about Tulsa, San Jose state, Nevada and Utah state!

    In the end you would love if Kyle would have gone to byU and taken byU to an undefeated record and a win over Alabama! Side note: who was the last team to beat Alabama in a bowl game?

    Who has a better bowl winning % in the same time? Utah

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    June 24, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    Just curious...how long are the cUties going to ride the coat tails of the 54-10? (I'm guessing a while since they aren't producing much else) But as long as we are pointing at scoreboard, lets remember these two other scoreboards, shall we?

    70 - 31, who owns it? BYU

    56 - 6, the largest point margin of victory in the entire series. Who owns it? BYU (Ask Jimmy Mac about scoreboard in that game!)

    So continue to trot out your little 54-10 game, its the least we can do for our little brothers on the hill.

  • Wingnut1 USA, UT
    June 24, 2013 2:14 p.m.

    Re AZUTE1
    You make fun of us for beating one-year-wonder USU by 3? Well, if I recall correctly, which I do. Utah lost to them. Weird... And Utah ended up on their couches watching BYU beat SDSU in a bowl game as they stayed home for the holidays. Keep on banging your chest :)

  • Beck to Harline Provo, UT
    June 24, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    @AZUTE1

    How many of KVN's tackles over the last two seasons have been solo, unassisted tackles?
    How many other players are as versatile as KVN, as evidenced in the statistical categories of defense?
    How many defensive players have won the Heisman?

    Yeah, it's extremely unlikely that KVN will win the Heisman. That's obvious. He would have to put up numbers not "based in reality" to even be considered for the Heisman. Defensive players just don't do it! Charles Woodson was the only (solely) defensive player to ever win the Heisman! This discussion of KVN for Heisman is just wishful thinking, which I agree is not "based in reality." The Butkus award is a much more S.M.A.R.T. goal for KVN. The guy is a monster, regardless of the competition he faces, or if his tackles are assisted or not. Nobody will have a more consistent impact on the Cougar defense for a long time. Ogletree was consistent for sure, but KVN just has the wow factor.

    I'm sure being drafted in the first round will be consolation for either 0-4/1-3 against the Utes--He's got his priorities straight...LOL

    Go Cougs!

  • Beck to Harline Provo, UT
    June 24, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    Also- what is with Utah fan's obsession with insulting Bronco? It's really just petty and immature imo...Bronco is a terrific head coach. Sure, he struggles against good teams. Struggles is probably (definitely) an understatement. But to call him "Donko" and "Roscoe" is just uncalled for. He is a man of extreme integrity. What has he ever done to the Utes to warrant this treatment? Besides sustaining the Ute trolls by having a losing record against the Utes.......if anything, you should be thankful for Bronco. Give him the respect he deserves. He's not the kind of guy to put logos in the urinals unlike another coach I know of.......but I still treat that coach with respect..
    Just food for thought.

    Go Cougs!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 24, 2013 2:51 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "Nobody claims KVN isn't capable of excelling against a #23 SOS, such as the one SCAR played against in 2012, but the fact remains, he didn't do so and he won't ever get the opportunity to prove it on this level! …I then stated how team-success is unequivocally tied-into an individual's ability to be in serious Heisman-contention, whether one agrees with it or not, and in this regard there's, literally, zero regarding byu and their resume which would qualify him for it.

    AZUTE1, I agree with you that strong SOS (usually in top 15) does have a correlation with Heisman winners. However, there is precedent for “contenders” (especially defensive contenders) that suggest KVN could still be in the discussion.

    2009 Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (fourth place finalist), #52 SOS
    1997 Charles Woodson, Michigan (winner, played both sides) #36 SOS
    1990 Ty Detmer, BYU #63 SOS

    Most services put BYU’s 2013 SOS at either #42 or #25. That clearly is strong enough that if KVN plays as good as or better than last season he should be in the conversation.

  • Jim1027 St. George, UT
    June 24, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    Don't you have to have a winning record to talk trash? Seems like the Pac12 trash team up North just loves to talk trash here and on BYU sports boards. Try getting a winning record, first, please!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 24, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    By losing conference games, the utes have helped other pac 12 teams become bowl eligible. The Pac12 conference knew what they were doing by inviting Utah in both football, and basketball.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 24, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    KVN will have a great season, no doubt. Excited for him and wish him all the success this season.

    Utes... not so much.

    Ute theme song for this season... "I'll Be Home for Christmas"

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2013 7:45 p.m.

    Sammyg:
    "I'll be home for Christmas...You can count on me...There'll be snow and mistle toe, but no utes on TV...Christmas eve will find me, watching the Cougars win"...sing it now, "I'll be home for Christmas...Cuz I bowl in my dreams". Sing it loud AZUTE and Nav, etc...it's the only song you'll have when all the air's gone out of Utah Man Sir. Lol.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 25, 2013 12:45 a.m.

    Wingnut1--

    "Re AZUTE1

    You make fun of us for beating one-year-wonder USU by 3? Well, if I recall correctly, which I do. Utah lost to them. Weird... And Utah ended up on their couches watching BYU beat SDSU in a bowl game as they stayed home for the holidays. Keep on banging your chest :)"

    2-Star byu knows first-hand the difference in playing usu up there in Logan, instead! What happened during 2-Star byu's last visit up there? One thing's for certain, it didn't go into OT! There's a reason 2-Star byu has avoided Logan like the plague, and money has zero to do with it!

    We played against significantly tougher SOS in 2012, per the norm, than 2-Star byu did and secured our annual victory over 2-Star byu, as well, yet missed bowl game for the 1st time since '02 by merely 1 game. Yet we're 10-1 during this current BCS Era in bowl games, while 2-Star byu has also reached 11 bowl games, but has struggled mightily to just simply reach 6-5!

    The clincher right here? Touting any win over SDSU, ever! This alone speaks volumes! Thanks?

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    June 25, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Gotta love the trolls that say Utah and BYU are no longer rivals on one hand, that the Utes have moved on and are to good to be considered a rival! But on the other hand their many posts keep saying that KYN/Hoff are going to finish their great careers 0-4 against their rivals! By the way for those keeping score since 1972 the record is BYU 26 wins Utah 14 wins!!! I have a good feeling that this year Von Noy and Hoff will finish their unfinished business and it will be a Cougar victory!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 25, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    “2-Star byu knows first-hand the difference in playing usu up there in Logan, instead! What happened during 2-Star byu's last visit up there? One thing's for certain, it didn't go into OT! There's a reason 2-Star byu has avoided Logan like the plague, and money has zero to do with it!”

    Since 1975 BYU is 10-3 versus USU in Logan. Additionally, BYU had beaten Utah State ten straight times prior to the 2010 loss.

    What were you saying?

  • WA_Alum&Dad Marysville, WA
    June 25, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    Who was better last year, Y, or U? Well, last year KVN bowl game play > the entire Utah team's. We'll see you in September, Ute trolls.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 25, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan--

    "Since 1975 BYU is 10-3 versus USU in Logan. Additionally, BYU had beaten Utah State ten straight times prior to the 2010 loss."

    How in the world could anything which took place nearly 4 decades ago even remotely relate to what's going on these days?

    Furthermore, what took place up there in Logan wasn't just simply a fluke-win in OT, but rather a thorough beating of epic-proportions! You can be rest-assured, usu fully-expects to win this home game against 2-Star byu and will play it, accordingly!

    My comment specifically focused-in on what's relevantly ocurring these days, not what occurred when grandpa Chester or Uncle Merle were on the field-of-play!

    Let's stay focused here and not merely remain current, but choose to be Spin-free, as well, deal?

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 25, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "How in the world could anything which took place nearly 4 decades ago even remotely relate to what's going on these days?"

    You must be a Ute fan. Here, let me help you with the math... ten-in-a-row means that the previous TEN games were won by BYU. Which means you don't have to go back four decades if you don't want to. Try one. BYU won in 2012 (6-3), 2011 (27-24), 2009 (35-17), 2008 in Logan (34-14), 2006 (38-0), 2002 in Logan (35-34). Utah State won in 2010 (16-31) Pretty easy, eh?

    "Furthermore, what took place up there in Logan wasn't just simply a fluke-win in OT, but rather a thorough beating of epic-proportions!"

    The margin of victory in USU's win was less than the average margin of victory of BYU's last ten wins against them.

    "Let's stay focused here and not merely remain current, but choose to be Spin-free, as well, deal?"

    I'd love to hear your response to the current BYU/USU head to head (BYU leads 10-1), without spin. Cheers.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 25, 2013 7:25 p.m.

    It's official. Everyone loves to follow BYU football! 53 comments already about BYU football, most not by BYU fans. With Heisman potential on the team, look for more comments than last year. I love it!

    KNV will give BYU it's next major award. Looking forward to it!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 25, 2013 7:29 p.m.

    "Any negative comment made about BYU from a ute just puts utah deeper in the cellar. "

    I read at least 40 cellar dwelling comments on this article alone. Profound statement.

    "56 - 6, the largest point margin of victory in the entire series. Who owns it? BYU"

    Another beaut!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 25, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:
    Re AZUTE: Lmbo...very nicely done. I too was wondering where the "stay current" business came from. Your post concerning USU must have been confusing by stating that SINCE 1975 BYU is 10-3 in Logan. Obvioulsy the 10 in a row stat was completely ignored as well as understanding that SINCE means from a certain time to the PRESENT. Haha, smh.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    Wiscougarfan--

    "'How in the world could anything which took place nearly 4 decades ago even remotely relate to what's going on these days?'

    You must be a Ute fan. Here, let me help you with the math... ten-in-a-row means that the previous TEN games were won by BYU. Which means you don't have to go back four decades if you don't want to. Try one. BYU won in 2012 (6-3), 2011 (27-24), 2009 (35-17), 2008 in Logan (34-14), 2006 (38-0), 2002 in Logan (35-34). Utah State won in 2010 (16-31) Pretty easy, eh?"

    LOL....Nice try! You conveniently truncated the statement of yours I quoted/directly responded to. I'll quote you again--

    "Since 1975 BYU is 10-3 versus USU in Logan."

    Again, how does what happened nearly 4 decades ago relate to what's happening these days?

    Then you listed games PRE-dating usu's 2010 whooping of byu in Logan. Please explain how they're relevant to 2013, in Logan, particularly those played in provo? How do you figure this gives byu any advantage, whatsoever? Hysterical!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 10:54 a.m.

    Wiscougarfan--

    [Cont'd]

    "....ten-in-a-row means that the previous TEN games were won by BYU. Which means you don't have to go back four decades if you don't want to. Try one. BYU won in 2012 (6-3), 2011 (27-24), 2009 (35-17), 2008 in Logan (34-14), 2006 (38-0), 2002 in Logan (35-34). Utah State won in 2010 (16-31) Pretty easy, eh?"

    It's 100% easy. Only 2 games have been played since the 2010 Massacre, both 3-PT struggles for byu, in provo, the 1st of which usu dominated byu, virtually from start-to-finish, before a miraculous, improbable comeback by byu in the game's final minutes. The second of which could've just as easily gone in usu's favor. Both of which took place in provo.

    If byu is barely escaping usu in front of 50K of their own fans, in fact getting lucky to do so, just imagine how it's going to be playing a usu team in Logan which returns virtually all of their key-starters!

    As all of my comments are, this comment of mine is equally 100% Spin-Free! I invite you to join me for the 1st time!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 26, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs

    "Wiscougarfan:
    Re AZUTE: Lmbo...very nicely done. I too was wondering where the "stay current" business came from. Your post concerning USU must have been confusing by stating that SINCE 1975 BYU is 10-3 in Logan. Obvioulsy the 10 in a row stat was completely ignored as well as understanding that SINCE means from a certain time to the PRESENT. Haha, smh."

    Hysterical! Speaking of, "stay current", I'm reminded of witnessing byu fan all over multiple websites before playing against Texas in 2011, exclaiming the following--

    "We own Texas! We're 2-0 against them! Therefore, we're going to beat them again in 2011!"

    Forget about the fact that the only 2 games previously played between the 2 schools took place in 1987 and 1988! Yep, 1987/1988 were 100% relevant and in line with, "stay current"!

    Hysterical!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 26, 2013 5:41 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    Yes, your spin is hysterical indeed. You try and make a jab about how BYU "avoids Logan like the plague" because of one poor game where they lost, so Wiscoug points out to you that losing up there isn't the norm as BYU OWNS Utah state (in Logan and Provo). Then you want to say that history is irrelevant while at the same time arguing that it is and that's why BYU won't go up there (because of one poor game 3 yrs ago)?...hysterical indeed. Your arguments are tangential and contradictory. If you want to jab BYU for playing poorly somewhere, don't pick USU and Logan, that was YOUR mistake. Wiscoug was merely trying to correct you with an accurate portrayal of how BYU typically performs in Logan...not your crimson skewed one. Also, concerning the present, you act as if USU is the only school that's improved from 2010. BYU has also...wait, were we looking at history 3 yrs ago, or talking about the present? I'm not sure which direction you're going PRESENTLY. "Hysterical!"

    Bottom line SINCE 1975 (not 40 yrs ago...SINCE...and not 2 wins in 87/88) BYU owns the aggies in Logan.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    July 22, 2013 11:46 a.m.

    I am sensing a lot of jealous and scared ute fans on these threads now days. I think they sense that this will be yet another failed season so they are getting their pot-shots in early to detract from the train wreck on the hill.

  • Ute buster Salt Lake City, UT
    July 22, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Down under is spot on. There are a lot of itchy fingers out there to deflect attention to the mess on the hill, both in football and basketball. BYU will own Utah in all aspects of the game this year. They will not look past the little brother this year. It will be a total beat down.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Aug. 3, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    Van noy is the real deal and will give BYU another first round pick if he stays healthy.
    I don't watch a lot of pro ball, so glad to see he stayed for his senior year.