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Quinton Pedroza dismissed from Utah Utes football team

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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    Whittingham does the right thing on and off the field.

    That's what I love about him.

    He doesn't need to create a list of "priorities" that are used as excuses for not winning by other teams.

    Recently APR scores were released.

    One of the highest teams?

    Alabama.

    Highest in Utah?

    University of Utah Pac 12 Utes

    Whittingham can win AND have good students AND have good kids in the community AND have kids that put their family when family needs to be AND have God wherever they want god

    If Pedroza fixes his issues I'll welcome him back even if no playing time is missed.

    Whittingham always makes the right decisions in these cases.

    Go Utes!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    Rather than be all self righteous and TALK about how we act as Utes, Whittingham simply demands Utes act like Utes should act, and if you don't, you're gone.

    The University of Utah Pac 12 Utes is the flagship program in the state and produces the best football, best leaders, and best people in the community.

    Thanks Whittingham for doing what is right.

    Other coaches in Utah don't hold a candle to Whittingham. Top 10 coach in the country.

    We are lucky to have a guy of such high character and who is committed to WINNING

    Go Utes!

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    June 19, 2013 12:06 p.m.

    Chris and his Alma Mater?

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    June 19, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    I don't care if the team wins or loses, but I don't want "losers" on the team just because they can throw or catch a ball.

    It is refreshing to see athletes in high visibility sports in "big" schools held to the same academic and behavior standards as other students, and for them to suffer the consequences when they fail to comply.

    It takes more guts for a coach and team to do this than to look the other way. Well done!

    Go Utes!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    WOW!! Easy there Chris!

    Too bad for Quinton. Some kids just have to learn lessons the hard way. Quinton had the potential to be something special. I hope he learns from this and gets his life on track.

    Go Utes!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    June 19, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    @AZ Blue & Red

    That Alma Mater owns you on the football field and Ute fans own byu "fans" with our Pac12 membership.

    Go Utes.

  • AZ Blue & Red Gilbert, AZ
    June 19, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    I do not think any self righteous is in order. Already posted in the first posts. Glad Coach can do what is needed.

    As for the U program I agree it is top notch but those of us who can think for ourselves and not have to take others word for it, there are other top notch programs in the state as well. Different animals and different approaches and certainly different institutions. Does not make one better. I want all to do well. Not sure why others have to be a one man band all the time. Can't others do well too? Can’t we root for all and one when they meet? If all do well does that not do well for the state?

    Coach Witt does a great job and I hope that this young man can come back.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    June 19, 2013 12:50 p.m.

    Wow Chris B
    I thought only former BYU receivers talked about how living right off the field made magic happen on the field!!! Coach W is one of those former Sunday School Choir boys and he even holds firesides also imagine that!!! Both of your posts are dripping with self righteousness and I wonder what you would be saying if this had been a BYU player instead of a Ute!!! I hope this young man can fix his life so he can return to the sport he loves but more important, I hope he can finish his degree and be a good man!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    June 19, 2013 1:10 p.m.

    Sorry to hear this action had to be taken. I hope I am not being too presumptuous to state that we all join together in wishing Mr. Pedroza the best in his future endeavors.

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    June 19, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    Only Chris B could take a Utah player's dismissal and spin it into an open door for another attack on the rival school and its coach. Obsess much?

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    Reno and Perkunas: Well said!

    Go Utes!!

  • #12 in the Pac 12 Denver, CO
    June 19, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Chris B,

    "Rather than be all self righteous and TALK about how we act as Utes, Whittingham simply demands Utes act like Utes should act, and if you don't, you're gone."

    Not sure how long you'd last around Whitt.

    I admit he's a great guy, m,ust be that education of his! :)

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    June 19, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    This must have been something pretty serious for Whit to hand out a dismissal. We already know that illegal drug use and DUI's only warrant a slap on the wrist at the U.
    And don't even try to compare standards between BYU and the U.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    June 19, 2013 1:42 p.m.

    It's too bad for the kid. Usually by the time they are kicked off a team, it is because they have violated a few rules, multiple times. One of life's tough lessons. Athletics came easy but finding studying and life aren't so easy. Time for reality check and it can go one way or the other.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 19, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    I think losing Pedroza is gonna hurt. We have a fairly decent receiving corps, but from what I heard over the Spring, the dropoff from Pedroza to Denham was pretty steep. It's too bad Pedroza didn't learn from Blechen's ordeal about breaking team rules: No matter how talented you are, if you do the crime, you'll do the time. And it isn't even as if Blechen was the first Ute to be sanctioned. There's a long line of athletes behind him who TOO had broken team rules, and had to suffer the consequences.

    The team suffers too.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    Crissy,
    The flagship of the state? Really? Remind me how the Utes did in basketball the past two years, how many NCAA trips they made and let's not forget - which bowl game did they play in last year? Quit riding the coat tails of the PAC 11+U when you can't compete in ANY sport.

    We need to all agree that BYU is the flagship in basketball and USU was the flagship in football.

    Volleyball and Rugby go to BYU. We will give you the skiing title.

  • stateofutah1 Davis County, UT
    June 19, 2013 2:17 p.m.

    He must have done something really bad that they couldn't cover up

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    R.A.W

    "This must have been something pretty serious for Whit to hand out a dismissal. We already know that illegal drug use and DUI's only warrant a slap on the wrist at the U.
    And don't even try to compare standards between BYU and the U."

    Ahhh, that is completely uncalled for, raw. It was Mendenhall who had a player arrested for a DUI and then let him play in five games. Had the media not found out about it, the kid would still be in the starting line up. Just think of it...the media held Mendenhall accountable. lol.

    Good luck to Pedroza. If these is a way to earn his way back on the team, I hope he takes any and all steps necessary to accomplish that. Life is a long journey and sometimes have to learn the hard way.

  • Suhyun Ogden, UT
    June 19, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    It appears a "normal" college experience will get you kicked off Kyle's team too. Good for Kyle for toeing the line and not making an exception for an "athlete".

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    June 19, 2013 2:50 p.m.

    Blah, blah, blah. Another article about a Utah football player devolves into Chrissy B, Ekute, and I am just waiting for NavelVet, to rant about BYU v Utah. It gets old!! Chrissy, Ekute, and Navelvet, we understand Utah is in the Pac 10.2. We understand that as BYU fans, we would like to be there as well. But please give it a rest! We moved on to a better situation as well as you. Have fun, do well, and represent the state I live in. But please remember, that if Texas would have said "yes", you still would be in the MWC and we would be independent still.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    June 19, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    christy

    "Rather than be all self righteous and TALK about how we act as Utes, Whittingham simply demands Utes act like Utes should act, and if you don't, you're gone."

    Gotta love Kyle's double standard for key players - only giving Blechen a mere slap on the wrist for multiple failed drug tests - versus immediate suspension from the team for a bench warmer.

  • steeleute Sandy, UT
    June 19, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    And quit saying the getting suspended four games for smoking weed is getting "a slap on the wrists". That's a third of the season and most BCS schools won't even suspend their players 1 game for doing that, i.e.-LSU, Oregon, Bama

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    June 19, 2013 3:42 p.m.

    It would be nice to know the nature of the rule Pedroza violated that got him kicked off the team and what he would be required to do to return to the team if possible.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    June 19, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    The college experience (including intercollegiate athletics) serves its purpose if it helps students learn to make good, informed decisions and to be accountable for their poor decisions.

    The dismissal by Coach Whit reflects the accountability part of that equation. I hope the student athlete continues to work (with whatever assistance the team is allowed to provide in light of the dismissal) toward furthering his education and learning to make better decisions.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    June 19, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    Nobama10,

    Why are you ranting about this on a UTAH article? Pot meet kettle.

  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 4:03 p.m.

    @SteelUte, Your comparison only holds if the schools give that 1 game suspension for "multiple failed drug tests" It was widely reported the Blechen had failed several drug tests, and no one seemed to dispute that. So no it wasn't like Kyle suspended the kid a third of the season the first time he smoked, or even the first time he got caught. He had obviously been caught several times before he ever saw the bench. How long do you think Kyle had been aware Blechen had been smoking before he made him sit? a month? 6 months? 2 years? And no, it wasn't a month. Kyle let it go as long as he felt he could.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    June 19, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    Sports,

    Source please.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 19, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    So why does this have to become a soap box for the BYU Utah rivalry? This is a sad situation for this young man. We can only hope that he does what is required to return to the team. We are fortunate to live in a state where the coaches sincerely care about the young men who suit up to play football for our enjoyment. There are many other coaches and schools that care more about the W's than they do the long term future of the young men they are charged with developing not only on the field but off.

    Thank you Coach Whit and Bronco, etc..

    GO UTES!!

  • Redute365 SLC, UT
    June 19, 2013 4:17 p.m.

    Bummer ! But Go Utes ! Pac12 Baby all day

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    June 19, 2013 4:21 p.m.

    steeleute

    For multiple failed drug tests, Whittingham finally suspended Blechen for three games - Northern Colorado, Utah State and BYU - less than one fourth of the season, if the Utes had qualified for a bowl, and all non-conference games. Quite obviously, Blechen didn't even get a slap on the wrist for his previous failed drug tests. It would be interesting to know what Pedroza did that was so egregious that Whittingham immediately dismissed him from the team.

    For comparison, for one DUI that occurred before he'd even enrolled at BYU, Bronco made KVN wait an entire year before being allowed to join the team.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 19, 2013 4:42 p.m.

    Unfortunate, but it happens at every program from coast to coast. This unfortunate event will provide another player the opportunity to step up!

    GO UTES!

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    June 19, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    Wookie

    "So why does this have to become a soap box for the BYU Utah rivalry?"

    Because Chris B. chose make this a Cause célèbre for all that is right about Utah athletics, rather than understanding that a player getting kicked out of Utah's football program is nothing to celebrate.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    June 19, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    DevilishUte

    Brian Blechen's three-game suspension for violating team rules is tied to failed drug tests [plural] for marijuana use.

    Google it; you'll find many sources.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    Of course a cynic might surmise that whittingham already know's this coming season will be a disaster so what does it really matter? Would pedroza have been the difference between a 2 win season and a 3 win season? Does it really matter if he was?

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 4:58 p.m.

    R.A.W. - I guess the standards are different unless your initials are KVN.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    June 19, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    My Perspective,

    I will go ahead and call you on your false claim there. No player at BYU has played 5 games after receiving a DUI under Bronco. Kyle Van Noy was arrested for a DUI in highschool and had to wait a full year to enroll at BYU. Also two BYU football players were dismissed after fighting at a Provo restaurant, both were projected starters for the coming season. Besides that, all other dismissals were due to honor code violations. Please give me the name and a link to where you got your information.

    Blechen served a 3 game suspension for marijuana use. Fotu served a 4 game suspension for driving drunk, in the wrong direction on the freeway. That was just last year. Like I said, slap on the wrist.

    BYU and Utah are in two different worlds when it comes to standards.

  • R.A.W St George, Utah
    June 19, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    Just to save you time, Shiloh Teo covered up and lied about his DUI to Bronco and the BYU administration, which enabled him to dress (NOT play) in 5 games. Once Bronco found out about the DUI Teo was dismissed from the team immediately. So obviously that does not support your statement that Bronco let a player play 5 games with a DUI.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    June 19, 2013 5:11 p.m.

    "Gotta love Kyle's double standard for key players - only giving Blechen a mere slap on the wrist for multiple failed drug tests - versus immediate suspension from the team for a bench warmer."

    Hard to say that Kyle has a double standard without knowing why Pedroza was dismissed from the team. You should check your facts before you spout off and make unsubstantiated assertions.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    backbacn: Double standard? So you know exactly what went on with Blechen and Whitt behind the scenes? And you know exactly what is going on with Pedroza?

    Do tell!! We are waiting!!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    @ Reno Cougs Fan 68: Thanks for your classy and educated post. You represent your school well. I hope most BYU fans are more like you rather than the judgmental hoards that troll the Utah stories. I hope they make you cringe as much as posts by Chris B make us real Utah fans cringe.

    Keep up the good work and good posts!

    Go Utes!!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 19, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    How does an article like this turn into forum for APR scores, Alabama, the Utes struggling sports programs (even if U are in the PAC12),BYU Rugby, and Texas' rejection of their PAC invite (which is now 3 years old).

    It's not often I agree with Naval Vet, but his comment is about the most relevant to the article.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 19, 2013 6:03 p.m.

    From what I had seen and heard, I was not impressed with Q. Very similar to DeVonte Christopher, in my opinion, a great athlete, but bad teammate. It's unfortunate for him, and I hope he can pick himself up and become better as a result, but I think this will be an addition by subtraction for the team.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 19, 2013 7:36 p.m.

    Joining the PAC means that Utah will have to lower their stanards as far as character is concerned. They will need to recruit more and more "fast" players which means fewer spots for Utah kids and more players out of step with traditional values. I predicted this when it the PAC announcement was made. Watching this develop won't be pretty. Utah State and perhapse BYU will benifit from a larger pool of good local players.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 7:47 p.m.

    Wayne Rout curiously said "Joining the PAC means that Utah will have to lower their standards as far as character is concerned."

    I encourage you to read the article before you post. Utah dismissed the kid from the program. They did not lower their standards. They just showed how solid their standards are.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    June 19, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    Contrary to some of the incorrect previous posts, Coach Whit has been very consistent enforcing rules to all players. While it would be interesting to know what caused this dismissal I admire the Utes for not disclosing any additional information.

    Now, for those making comments about Blechen, the team rules are very clear. First failed drug test is a warning. Second failed test is suspension for 1/4 of the season. I believe a third failed test is dismissal. This is a standard that is used by a large number of college teams and doesn't matter if the player is a star or rarely gets in the game. Additionally the suspensions are typically announced along with the reason for the suspension.

    Kudos to the Utes for handling this situation with class and integrity. I hope Pedroza learns a valuable life lesson from this experience.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 8:30 p.m.

    Wow....it had to be really serious for him to actually get in trouble with Whittingham.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 19, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    I also agree with CougfaninTX about Naval vets comments. I've also read and followed spring camp and the depth Utah had at WR until now. There IS a significant drop off after Pedroza as Nav stated. Hopefully Utah can keep Anderson and Scott healthy, because those two by themselves are VERY good and will give opponents fits. Now with less depth, they'll be counted on heavily for Utah's success offensively.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 19, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    backpacn at 3:04 p.m. June 19, 2013 said...

    "christy

    "Rather than be all self righteous and TALK about how we act as Utes, Whittingham simply demands Utes act like Utes should act, and if you don't, you're gone."

    Gotta love Kyle's double standard for key players - only giving Blechen a mere slap on the wrist for multiple failed drug tests - versus immediate suspension from the team for a bench warmer."

    =====================

    Milk Out of the Nose Award winner!

    A grand slam comment!

    I read this earlier today and could not comment on a company computer but Blechen was the very first thought I had and then your comment popped up.

    As much as Utesies like to say they support Whit in this action most of them would have just as easily agreed to a 3 game suspension for whatever the reason.

    That's what I like about the several of you Ute fans. Everyday I can count on you to the 'right thing' regardless of whatever happens in Uteville.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    June 20, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Does the nature of the violation involve the "munchies?"

  • 965 Sandy, UT
    June 20, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    I will never understand these kids that do stupid things and put a free education and possible NFL career in jeopardy. So sad, I just don't understand why this happens to so many kids around the nation. Take everything for granted.

    Any way, luckily for the Utes we have a ton of talent and depth behind him.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 20, 2013 9:53 a.m.

    @965

    "Any way, luckily for the Utes we have a ton of talent and depth behind him."

    That 109th ranked offense and losing record would indicate otherwise.

  • Utefan4Lyf West Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    I have one major question after following these boards for a while now. For those who profess their love for BYU, why do you have disparaging Utah screen names. "#12 in the PAC 12," "backpacn," "Y's little brother," etc. all make themselves look like Utah haters instead of actual BYU fans. Why would you want that? Seems kind of counter-productive to be telling me that your team is better when it's so obvious that Ute fans are under your skin that I don't even need to respond.
    As for Pedroza, hopefully he has learned a valuable lesson. Obviously the school knows the background so anything we say on these boards is speculation.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 20, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    Obama10:

    "I am just waiting for NavelVet, to rant about BYU v Utah. It gets old!!...But please give it a rest!"

    That's quite the obsession you have of me. It must be so very important for you to feel that I don't believe your small ball program isn't WAC-ish and midmajorey. Too bad for you. I do.

    As for the article, Pedroza didn't have anything to do with our Indy-WACey little brother. He had too many stars as a recruit. If you don't like me sounding off on your "Band of Bunglers", why did you bring me into a discussion about them (2:50 p.m. June 19, 2013)???

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    I see quite a bit of misinformation, wishful-thinking and outright made-up stories on here emanating from down there in utah county. Pretty sad, actually, and it blatantly comes across as utter desperation. Looking at the haul of 2-Star recruits in both byu's/usu's most recent recruiting-classes, the evidence of pure jealousy/envy is beyond palpable.

    "Watching this develop won't be pretty. Utah State and perhapse BYU will benifit from a larger pool of good local players."

    You must've forgotten about the story this website ran not too long ago wherein it illustrated UTAH's unequivocal stranglehold on instate-recruiting among this state's universities. UTAH secured 5 of the Top-10 recruits, usu secured 1 and byu secured the bottom 2. The disparity is so enormous, it's not even remotely debatable. Nice try.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 11:02 a.m.

    I'm surprised nobody on here has mentioned incoming WR Andre Lewis, who's been projected as coming in and competing for extensive playing-time, with or without QP, and being an instant-impact type of player. I'm sorry to see this happening with QP, but it in no way alters the fact that we do have significant depth at this position and there's been nothing but huge/rave reviews regarding AL, whereas QP has merely been a source of talking seemingly endlessly about his "potential", yet it's not ever come to fruition.

    Not to say he couldn't have had an impact going forward, but conversely it may never have actually materialized. I'm significantly more dismayed by Xavier Shephard's enrollment being delayed by his need to clear-up a class than I am to lose a kid who's been within our program now for multiple-years and has little to no impact, whatsoever.

    Either way, no amount of spin from TDS fan can change the fact that Coach KW operates a squeaky-clean program, which is common-knowledge throughout our conference, one all of us UTES can be ultra proud of!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    Another thing, in addition to the fact QP's had little to no impact to date, whatsoever, Coach DE is going to make significantly greater use of our TEs/RBs in our passing-game, so this unfortunate departure will have even less of an impact than some on here in their utter desperation wish to imply, particularly with the extensive depth we possess at both of these other 2 positions. Go UTES!

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    @AZUTE1: "I'm surprised nobody on here has mentioned incoming WR Andre Lewis, who's been projected as coming in and competing for extensive playing-time, with or without QP"

    I'm surprised that you're so naive as to not understand that Whittingham knew QP's suspension was imminent and that Whit intentionally floated the narrative that Lewis would immediately be competing for extensive playing time to ease the panic on the hill when U realized how little depth the Utes actually have at WR.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    ... and yet your team still can't beat Utah, nor any one else of significance.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    June 20, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    AZUTE1

    "this unfortunate departure will have even less of an impact than some on here in their utter desperation wish to imply, particularly with the extensive depth we possess at both of these other 2 positions."

    Talking about frantic and utterly desperate spin, see mirror.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 11:33 a.m.

    @LonestarRunner--

    "I'm surprised that you're so naive as to not understand that Whittingham knew QP's suspension was imminent and that Whit intentionally floated the narrative that Lewis would immediately be competing for extensive playing time to ease the panic on the hill when U realized how little depth the Utes actually have at WR."

    What in the world are you talking about? My reference to AL goes all of the way back to his recruitment/commitment/LOI-signature and talks nothing, whatsoever, about this allegation of yours stating Coach KW said anything at all about AL, upon dismissing QP from our program.

    Please elaborate on how you could've possibly erroneously come to this categorically false conclusion, based exclusively upon what I actually posted within my comment. Thanks in advance!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 11:35 a.m.

    Rockwell

    "Talking about frantic and utterly desperate spin, see mirror."

    Yet, you can't even remotely refute even a single word of what I posted. Good times!

  • DontMUSSwUtah SLC, UT
    June 20, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    Hey BYU fans, please take a moment to get off your high horse, and think about when you were this kid's age. We've all made dumb choices at some point in our life. I know that a lot of you believe you are all "higher quality" human beings than us lowly Utah fans, but being kicked off a team for making a bad decision is enough punishment. I follow QP on twitter, and he has been harassed by BYU "fans" like yourselves for days now. I know there are a number of Utah fans like Chris B. who make it easy to say horrible things, but how about you act like grown-ups and ignore him?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 20, 2013 11:41 a.m.

    AZUTE1:

    Rivals listed Andre Lewis as a 4-star, #4-ranked JUCO WR, and was projected to compete for playing time upon arriving on campus. Unfortunately, he wasn't eligible to enroll in the Spring, so he hadn't had a chance to practice with the team yet, and would be significantly behind in the learning curve as to the nature of Erickson's new offensive system (as compared to those who WERE here last Spring). There's really no telling how long it'll be before Lewis is up-to-speed.

    Hopefully sooner than later, as Pedroza's dismissal just made his developmnet all the more critical.

    That said, I really like Lewis' size. At 6-4, 220-lbs, he could present some coverage matchup difficulties for opposing DBs. His 4.5-speed ain't half bad either.

    GO UTES!!!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    @ Naval Vet--

    You make a solid-point regarding his absence during Spring camp. One mitigating-factor is that he's coming from a J.C., so his learning-curve should be less than it would otherwise be coming directly out of H.S.

    I've watched film on him, extensively, and he's the real-deal. You referenced his speed and he looks even faster on film [plays faster] than what his clocked-time indicates [which alone is fast]. His size just simply can't be taught, as well. We have great reason to be super excited about him.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    This thread represents a new low for the tiresome and juvenile banter between BYU and Utah fans. A young man's life was just ruined due to his own poor choices, and predictably certain regulars on this site immediately jump on it as an opportunity to slam their rival school. Even if this weren't in poor taste, it would make absolutely no sense as both programs in recent years have demonstrated a strong commitment to maintaining high standards by its student-athletes. Kyle Whittingham and Bronco Mendenhall BOTH run a clean program while still maintaining a commitment to winning. They have nearly identical winning percentages as head coaches (71% and 73% respectively).

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    Swoop - I love these byU "fans" that are so obsessed with Utah that they have to have a Utah related handle!

    Once again, I ask, please explain to us all your insider knowledge of the situations with Blechen and with Pedroza.

    Thanks for coming by though, Swoop, and showing us your love for all things Ute!! We love your dedication to our school and our football program.

    Come back any time!!

    Go Utes!! Onward and Upward!!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    To my fellow UTES--

    For those of you who may/may not be familiar with TE Evan Moeai, who made a last-second visit down there to USC and was immediately offered by them at its conclusion before committing to us, I encourage you to view his footage. He offers yet another serious receiving-threat within our vast arsenal. We're straight loaded in our options for 2013 that this dismissal doesn't even remotely faze me. Furthermore, all indications from Xavier [i.e., on Twitter] are that he's excited to hurry-up and get this 1 class dealt with as quickly as possible, in order to get back for us.

    Combined with depth along our O-Line we haven't had in years [and the fact chemistry was not at all hit via going injury-free throughout Spring camp] and the arrival of Coach DE, we have great reason to be optimistic for 2013!

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    June 20, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    Kyle Van Noy had a DUI charge against him prior to coming to BYU. But since Van Noy is a good player, BYU fans are willing to overlook this and say what a great guy he is. The situation with Pedroza is no different, but because it comes from a state university (which happens to be their rivals), they are quick cast judgement.

    The hypocrisy that comes from the fan base of the institution in Provo is sickening.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    GoRed

    "But since Van Noy is a good player, BYU fans are willing to overlook this and say what a great guy he is."

    KVN made a stupid teen-aged mistake, which he openly acknowledged and for which Bronco held him accountable by requiring him to wait a full year before being allowed to enroll at BYU.

    Blechen openly flaunted Utah's no drugs policy, yet despite repeated failed drug tests, continued playing until university policy forced Whittingham to suspend Blechen for the absolute minimum he could get away with.

    NOTHING, however, has been said by BYU fans about how they view the character of either player. The only thing BYU fans have discussed is the stark differences in discipline doled out by Bronco and Whittingham. A desperate attempt by Utah's resident BYU-hating troll to characterize QP's dismissal as some sort of shining example of team discipline failed.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 20, 2013 1:56 p.m.

    @gored

    Please give us one, just one, statement by a BYU fan about pedroza that validates your "frantic and emotional" attack on BYU fans.

    I will await your reply that never comes since there are none.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    June 20, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    Obama10,

    Even if Texas would have said yes, the people in the know already stated that the UTES were in. Baylor and Texas A & M were not going to the Pac 12. You also have not moved on to a better situation. As of 2014 when the new BCS playoff starts, you will be in a much worse situation as far as BCS games, or making the playoffs goes. The Mountain West will have a much better chance to make a BCS game, and or playoff game than you will. Go read the stipulations, and Byu and independent teams not names Notre Dame have been left out in the cold. Keep dreaming that Independence was all it was crakced up to be. Other than a few big name games here or there with your built in 6-7 wins vs the weak of college football every year, Independence has done nothing for you, and will continue to do nothing for you than add a few more dollars in your pockets from the ESPN deal. That is it.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    June 20, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Thank you for the kind words! We do not always see eye to eye or agree on things between our two schools but it is nice to be able to talk without name calling or other things!!! You are a true fan and a class act!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    Truth Machine

    Please explain the difference between these two statements...

    "KVN made a stupid teen-aged mistake, which he openly acknowledged and for which Bronco held him accountable by requiring him to wait a full year before being allowed to enroll at BYU."

    "Blechen openly flaunted Utah's no drugs policy, yet despite repeated failed drug tests, continued playing until university policy forced Whittingham to suspend Blechen for the absolute minimum he could get away with."

    The difference is this: One uses language that minimizes the seriousness of what took place. The other statement, uses emotionally charged language that exacerbates the condition (not to mention the unfounded allegation that a coach was "forced" to take action). How do you feel about that? Does that sound like the product of a "Truth Machine" to you?

    A few years ago, byu had a player arrested on a DUI. He played for five games and then the media found out. Ooops. Yes, Mendenhall dealt with it. However, he claimed to have no knowledge of the matter (for five weeks).

  • Redute365 SLC, UT
    June 20, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    Hey Obama 10- How is that INDY thing coming ? Nobody cares about Byu. Utah is the Elite team in this state

    Go Utes

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    Truth Machine - google Trevor Molini. He made some SERIOUS mistakes, but LE gave him a second chance. The kid was worth trying to save, in LE's opinion, which I respect. The kid ultimately got kicked off the team for repeating the same violations. There were MANY vocal byu students and faculty and church members that were upset that he was allowed back in school, let alone back on the team. They said the only reason he was allowed back was because he was a blue chipper who made the freshman all-American team. Although the kid messed up his own life, Edward's reputation should not be smeared because he gave him a second chance. I only bring this kid up because I knew him and I knew his roommate, and I have first-hand knowledge of what went on.

    Take it for what it is. There are things that go on in ALL schools that most people are not aware of.

    Go Utes!!

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    June 20, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    Chris B, I love your posts. I knew the man's dad, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree. He's a good man, good morals. We were proud to have them both at BYU during our glory years. Enjoy him in yours.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    R.A.W
    "Shiloh Teo covered up and lied about his DUI to Bronco and the BYU administration, which enabled him to dress (NOT play) in 5 games. Once Bronco found out about the DUI Teo was dismissed from the team immediately."

    That's the name I was trying to recall. Thank you. Did Teo suit up for 5 games or did he not? Yes, he was with the team for 5 weeks. Did the media bring the situation to light holding Mendenhall accountable? Yes. Was it embarrassing for Mendenhall? Yes. Frankly, I don't care if he lied to Mendenhall or not. Mendenhall is expected to know or reasonably should have known about the incident. I can just hear the conversation...

    Mendehall: Son, did you do this.
    Player: Ummmm,no coach.
    Mendenhall: ok

    The bottom line here is that byu fans have little room to point a finger at someone else. I think the lesson here is that our choices have consequences that are seldom limited to just ourselves. A lesson ALL of us should take to heart.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    Duckhunter: "Please give us one, just one, statement by a BYU fan about pedroza that validates your "frantic and emotional" attack on BYU fans."

    I'll do it for him.

    "R.A.W
    St George, Utah
    This must have been something pretty serious for Whit to hand out a dismissal. We already know that illegal drug use and DUI's only warrant a slap on the wrist at the U."

    "Duckhunter
    Highland, UT
    Of course a cynic might surmise that whittingham already know's this coming season will be a disaster so what does it really matter?"

    "Wayne Rout
    El Paso, TX
    Joining the PAC means that Utah will have to lower their stanards as far as character is concerned."

    "backbacn
    Sandy, UT
    christy

    Gotta love Kyle's double standard for key players"

    steeleute

    "It would be interesting to know what Pedroza did that was so egregious that Whittingham immediately dismissed him from the team."

    cont ......

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2013 3:36 p.m.

    cont ....

    'EdGrady
    Idaho Falls, ID
    Does the nature of the violation involve the "munchies?"

    "sammyg

    As much as Utesies like to say they support Whit in this action most of them would have just as easily agreed to a 3 game suspension for whatever the reason."

    "skywalker
    Palo Alto, CA

    Wow....it had to be really serious for him to actually get in trouble."

    "LonestarRunner
    Salt Lake City, UT

    I'm surprised that you're so naive as to not understand that Whittingham knew QP's suspension was imminent and that Whit intentionally floated the narrative that Lewis would immediately be competing for extensive playing time to ease the panic on the hill when U realized how little depth the Utes actually have at WR"

    "Truth Machine

    A desperate attempt by Utah's resident BYU-hating troll to characterize QP's dismissal as some sort of shining example of team discipline failed."

    I could keep on going, but I don' want to go to a third and fourth page!!

    All desperate and emotional rants from those who are trying to keep up with big brother at all costs!!

    Love it! Go Utes!

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    June 20, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    WOW, talk about preoccupation of the red program by the blue fans.

    What's even more entertaining are the judgments made by the blue fans from their glass houses. You would think BYU never had a player break the law or suit up for a game after breaking the law. Hmmmm, that's never happened, has it?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    What's truly remarkable is seeing byu fan attempt to slander the good name of Coach KW, particularly when there's absolutely, unequivocally ZERO basis for it.

    Isn't slandering the name of another, whether with merit [CLEARLY not the case with Coach KW] or without merit [CLEARLY the case with Coach KW], 100% entirely contrary to the tenants of byu's owner?

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    Duck
    "Please give us one, just one, statement by a BYU fan about pedroza that validates your "frantic and emotional" attack on BYU fans."

    I am just beyond words with this one. VegasUte did a fine job with a few golden nugget examples for you, Duck. In fact, he included an example directly from you.

    I received some great advice on these boards last week. It's moments like this that byu fans are at their finest. Grab some popcorn, kick back in the LazyBoy, and enjoy the show. Incredibly entertaining.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    The byu fanbase is busily showing their true colors on Twitter with their inane-attacks on QP. Utterly surreal, to say the very least!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 5:29 p.m.

    Direct quotes from QP--

    "I can't stress the amount of appreciation, respect and love I have for my coaches."

    "All I can say is still love the utes. And ute nation."

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 20, 2013 6:38 p.m.

    @Truth Machine

    KVN made a stupid teen-aged mistake, which he openly acknowledged and for which Bronco held him accountable by requiring him to wait a full year before being allowed to enroll at BYU.

    Blechen openly flaunted Utah's no drugs policy, yet despite repeated failed drug tests, continued playing until university policy forced Whittingham to suspend Blechen for the absolute minimum he could get away with.

    -----------------

    One broke a State law.

    The other broke a school policy, which in some States is legal (CA, CO, NV, Portland, etc.)

    Regardless, I think both punishments fit the crime (12 games suspension vs 3 games suspension). But more importantly, I hope both players have learned and grown from their mistakes.

    I hope Pedroza also learns from this and wish him well!!

    Go UTES!!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 20, 2013 6:54 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    @965

    "Any way, luckily for the Utes we have a ton of talent and depth behind him."

    That 109th ranked offense and losing record would indicate otherwise.

    -----------------

    And I recall a 105th ranked offense made you hide in shame in Tulsa for a week.

    It's true that Utah needs depth to compete in the PAC-12 but to OWN team's like Wazzu and BYU a 109th ranked offense will do.

  • CG Orem, UT
    June 20, 2013 7:58 p.m.

    Uteology

    It's interesting how totally obsessed Utah fans remain with BYU.

    For all of the PAC 10.2 banter we see on these boards, it's as if the PAC 10.2 doesn't even exist as foes in the minds of Utah fans; as long as the Utes beat BYU, losing, bowl-less seasons, with no significant PAC 10.2 wins is inconsequential.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    June 20, 2013 8:33 p.m.

    CG,

    Yes, we've heard that response a million times by all of you obsessed Y folk who keep coming on to these Utah articles. It's just amazing that a program so inconsequential as Utah's would attract so much attention from a legacy program like BYU.

    Don't you find it the least bit ironic that you all come on to these boards to trash the very football team your boys can't beat?

  • CG Orem, UT
    June 20, 2013 10:39 p.m.

    U 90

    "Don't you find it the least bit ironic that you all come on to these boards to trash the very football team your boys can't beat?"

    Not at all, since it was Utah fans who opened the dialog by trashing BYU.

    What's ironic is the wannabe big boy school that supposedly left BYU in the dust over three years ago, focusing so much attention on BYU, that you're completely unaware of the fact that the ONLY significant team you've been able to beat since joining the PAC is BYU.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 20, 2013 10:50 p.m.

    no perspective

    "KVN made a stupid teen-aged mistake, which he openly acknowledged and for which Bronco held him accountable by requiring him to wait a full year before being allowed to enroll at BYU."

    "Blechen openly flaunted Utah's no drugs policy, yet despite repeated failed drug tests, continued playing until university policy forced Whittingham to suspend Blechen for the absolute minimum he could get away with."

    translation...

    KVN makes a mistake... gets a one year delay before he can play ball

    Bechen makes a mistake... makes another mistake knowing he will get caught... makes another mistake knowing again he will get caught... Whit suspends him for 3 games.

    Big difference.

    You're unwillingness to admit the difference is the real problem around here.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 21, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    @vegas ute

    Fail! Nothing you posted shows any of what gored alleged. Thanks for playing though, lotsa fun.

    LOL!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    CG - look up the word "irony" in Webster, it shows your post as a definition!! Hovering over Utah stories with constant posts is the very definition of obsession. Now, if you want to go on byU stories and mock Utah trollers there, be my guest. But calling Utah fans "obsessed" with little brother while YOU are on a Utah story, that is just too rich!!

    BTW - Chris B does not represent Utah fans. Chris B = Ducky -- no substance, just trying to stir the pot.

    Go Utes!! Onward and Upward.

    Can't wait for 9/15 and the fourth annual duck migration to Tulsa!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    Sammy G - google Trevor Molini.

    Stuff happens at both schools. You have not first hand knowledge of Blechen, but I have first hand knowledge of Molini. byU students and church members were offended at Molini getting a second chance. I applauded LE for giving him a second chance. What I KNOW happened with Molini and with what you allege happened with Blechen (with no first hand knowledge at all), Molini was in MUCH more trouble, yet LE went against popular opinions and gave him a second chance. Yet you condemn and judge Whitt? Hmmmm. And you think that Molini is an isolated event at byU? I only bring up Molini because of what I know --- I will not speculate on the others.

    Good luck to you and your byU football team this year, you will need it. With a big boy schedule in effect, I think there will be many more trips to Tulsa this year!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 21, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    MyPerspective & VegasUte:
    It's obvious neither of you actually understood Duck's question. Nowhere in your 2 page rant and follow up response do you answer the question about BYU fans ripping Pedroza. All their statements are ripping KW and the discipline at the U. Now while I disagree that KW has poor discipline (I actually think he runs a tighter ship than most programs), and disagree with some of the posts about BYU vs Utah discipline, neither of you did what duck asked you to do. Instead you changed the subject and then tried to refute him with your skewed version of what he asked. Strawman fail for both of you.

    As for Pedroza I hope he can move on from this. It sounds like he holds nothing against the coaches or university so that means he's accepting responsibility for his actions which bodes well going forward. As I said, in terms of football Utah has 2 VERY gifted WRs in Anderson and Scott so I think they'll be fine at that position.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    June 21, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    It's sad the real Ute football team isn't even half as good as the Ute trolls make it sound on these comment boards. Things like "Utah is the elite team of the state" is pure silliness. USU has proven to be better than anyone else in the state lately with only 2 missed field goals from being a top 10 team. That's much more elite than Utah has been in quite awhile.

    To say that "nobody cares about BYU" is almost as dumb of a statement. All one has to do is read these posts to see that's not true. In fact, a lot of these posts show that even most Ute fans very much care about BYU, since they obsess about them so much. In fact, beating BYU is literally the only thing left they're able to take any pride in (no USU win, no bowl qualification, etc.). As such, you'd better continue caring about BYU. In fact, if you'd somewhat brag BYU up, then your wins over them (though now a thing of the past) would carry more significance. No one owns anyone else. Utah beat BYU who beat USU who beat Utah.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 21, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    VegasUte:
    "What I KNOW happened with Molini and with what you allege happened with Blechen (with no first hand knowledge at all), Molini was in MUCH more trouble, yet LE went against popular opinions and gave him a second chance. Yet you condemn and judge Whitt? Hmmmm. And you think that Molini is an isolated event at byU? I only bring up Molini because of what I know --- I will not speculate on the others".

    I absolutely agree with you here. I applaud Lavell and KW for giving kids a second chance and not being swayed by public opinion about the matter. I have a friend who played for KW and from everything he has told me, Whitt runs a tight ship.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs
    "It's obvious neither of you actually understood Duck's question."

    Then Duck needs to make his questions clear. After rereading the comment, I think your interpretation is liberal. Fact is, Duck got caught at his own childish game. End of story.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    sammyg
    Nice try at that dodge. My post was dead on and you know it...obviously it struck a nerve with you. Thanks for acknowledging...in your own way of denying it. lol.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 11:43 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs - who cares? I just had fun posting the emotional and irrational ramblings of the byU "faithful" on a Utah story!! Fail!!

    My point is - ducky, et al, are the first to cast stones at Utah fans, but don't realize they live in glass houses. Their very posts eliminate any credibility they have. The posts they make are truly ironic, yet they lack the objectivity to see it. I know the same thing goes on with byU stories and Utah posters. I vocally and frequently mock Chris B because he is not representative of the Utah fan. I don't think that the typical byU "fan" is represented by the inane rantings of the people who obsess the Utah stories and who are tweeting QP. I have no problem having objective conversations with reasonable fans from byU or other schools. But when "fans" come on these stories with an agenda, I will have my fun. That's what this boils down to, entertainment!!

    Anyway, thank you for your positive words about Pedroza. I always appreciate classy comments from the other side. Hopefully that is all you will see from me on BYU stories.

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 12:27 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - Tators comes along and proves my point. The irony of his post is just lost on him. Using the word troll as an insult to Utah posters while trolling a Utah story? I just think I heard come glass shattering.

    Go Utes!!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 21, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    Uteology

    "One broke a State law. The other broke a school policy, which in some States is legal."

    Nope, one (Blechen) broke state AND federal laws:

    Under current Utah state law: possession of an ounce or less of marijuana is punishable by up to six months in jail.

    Under current Federal law: The Department of Justice (DOJ) has explicitly stated that marijuana remains illegal under Federal law.

    A Federal or state drug conviction can disqualify a student for Federal Student Aid funds.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 21, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    VegasUte:
    You like to use exclamation points! Lol. I agree it is all about entertainment and some take things way too seriously. I love ribbing ute fans the same way they rib us, but I think some people have fragile egos and can't handle being called out. As for irony, there's plenty of that to go around, just look at BYU articles.

    Anyway, I do hope Pedroza can work things out and come back. I know some ute fans won't believe it because I harass them so much, but I actually do want to see the utes finally be successful in the PAC12. It would help the state, and help our future schedule...same goes for Utah, the better BYU is the better the future schedule (and obviously I'm counting on BYU and Utah being a part of their respective future schedules).

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    June 21, 2013 4:24 p.m.

    To the comment screening group:

    Why are you sometimes so arbitrary and inconsistent regarding how and why you determine what comments get listed and which do not? I see some comments listed that are much more accusatory and negative than some of mine that don't. I'm quite certain there are other comment submitters who often share my frustration.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 5:39 p.m.

    Tators - get used to it.

    Cougsndawgs - I do not!!!!!!!!!! LOL

    Go Utes!!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    June 21, 2013 7:35 p.m.

    Wow. KW disciplines a player and gets criticized. Some posting have no clue how hard it is to make a decision that may affect a player for the rest of his life. Show some compassion people.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 23, 2013 4:20 p.m.

    @Just the FAX

    "One broke a State law. The other broke a school policy, which in some States is legal."

    Nope, one (Blechen) broke state AND federal laws...

    Under current Utah state law: possession of an ounce or less of marijuana is punishable by up to six months in jail.

    Under current Federal law: The Department of Justice (DOJ) has explicitly stated that marijuana remains illegal under Federal law.

    A Federal or state drug conviction can disqualify a student for Federal Student Aid funds.

    ------------

    Unless I missed something, Blechen wasn't arrested or convicted of possession of drugs. If we was arrested and convicted then I would agree with you but he wasn't, he failed a team drug test.

    KVN broke federal and state drinking laws but that's not why he was suspended. He was suspended because he was arrested and convicted of a DUI, not under age drinking:

    "Van Noy will miss the upcoming season, punishment from BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall for Van Noy's arrest on charges of driving under the influence this past weekend"
    -- Feb. 4, 2009

    Regardless, the punishment is equals the crime in both cases. Move on!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 23, 2013 6:49 p.m.

    @uteology

    Nice try at distorting Just the FAX post but I'm going to show how you've failed, again. FAX never said a thing about blechen "getting arrested", he pointed out that he broke the law, and he did. Her broke the law, can't get any clearer than that.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 23, 2013 11:29 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    Nice try at distorting Just the FAX post but I'm going to show how you've failed, again. FAX never said a thing about blechen "getting arrested", he pointed out that he broke the law, and he did. Her broke the law, can't get any clearer than that.

    ---------

    Distorting? I can't be any more clearer than quoting exactly what FAX said:

    "A Federal or state drug conviction can disqualify a student for Federal Student Aid funds."

    Please Ducky explain to all of us how one gets a "drug conviction" without being "arrested".

    Maybe it's a Tulsa thing?

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 24, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    @uteology

    FAX didn't say he blechen got a conviction, another deliberate attempt to distort from you. He pointed out the penalty for the illegal activity blechen participated in if he was caught by the authorities to emphasize the illegality of the activity that you were trying to pretend was not illegal.

    Fail again on your part.

    You should be embarrassed.

  • 965 Sandy, UT
    June 25, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    How is what Blechen did any worse than KVN's multiple DUI's?

    Isn't he supposed to be living right on AND off the field?

    LOL!

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    June 28, 2013 2:24 p.m.

    to all trolls:
    The problem I have is when you all try to emphasize the problems of the other schools. I graduated from USU and i have been a fan of BYU and Utah since my childhood. I hope all teams do well. I root for all of them. When i have a problem is when they play each other.
    The story here is about a young man that made a mistake and now must pay the price. Let's all hope he learns from this and can move forward in his progression.
    Hopefully, it's not so bad that he can't come back to the team.
    Go Aggies, Cougars and Utes.