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Student president of University of Utah impeached for low GPA

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  • wwookie Payson, UT
    May 25, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    Good for these students to hold their leadership accountable to higher standards. Wish all Americans would do the same.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 25, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    Only at the U...

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    May 27, 2013 8:12 p.m.

    Required GPA for SB Officer at a PAC 12 School: 2.5

    Bad Press for the Supposed Intellectual PAC 12: Priceless

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 27, 2013 9:37 p.m.

    Hey BYU fans ever hear of an ecological fallacy because that is what you are committing.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    May 27, 2013 11:26 p.m.

    Arm of Orion

    Ever heard of a Red Herring?

    "Ecological fallacy" or not, there's no denying how embarrassing it is for the University of Utah to have their student president impeached for low GPA.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    May 27, 2013 11:57 p.m.

    As employees of the people, all political leaders should show their GPA, or transcripts, and be accountable.

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 28, 2013 9:17 a.m.

    Please the ASUU has no power and almost no student at the U cares enough to even pay attention to these meaningless elections. The only people that vote are the friends of those who are running, just like high school. This is a black eye for the student and not the university.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 28, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    I don't know about it being an "ecological fallacy" but I do know that it is funny.

    LOL!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    May 28, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Arm of Orion

    Who cares what "power" the student president has; it's funny that the face of the Ute's student body doesn't even have the grades to remain in office.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 28, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    @arm of orion

    I just like how despite there being almost a scandal a month utah "fans" always try to pretend that the university has no blame in them. If this had been at BYU all of you would be piling on but since it happened at utah you want to pretend it is no mark against the university. That is funny.

    LOL!

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    May 28, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    This is not newsworthy.

    Too bad for the kid though, hopefully now he will work a little harder in his studies.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    May 28, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    The supposed diciples of Jesus come to this public forum to mock a young man's failings. Nice.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    May 28, 2013 12:07 p.m.

    I feel terrible for the young man to have to go through something like this, but this is the right course of action. There are policies in place for a reason, and if exceptions keep on being made you might as well not even have them.

    wwookie is right; this pattern of accountability should exist in federal government as well.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    May 28, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    SportsFan:

    "'Ecological fallacy' or not, there's no denying how embarrassing it is for the University of Utah to have their student president impeached for low GPA."

    No...what would have been embarrassing for the Univ. of Utah, would be to NOT impeach a student body president after failing to maintain the minimum GPA requirement. There's absolutely NO shame in enforcing academic standards. On the other hand, it must have been so embarrassing to discover your fellow Indy-WACers did NOT know what a ecological fallacy is. Typical.

    Duckhunter:

    "I just like how despite there being almost a scandal a month utah 'fans' always try to pretend that the university has no blame in them."

    ...said the Indy-WACer who likes to make believe that the there can be no blame or shame at the Y. I know you never got accepted into the Y, but you can rest assure yourself that armed with your degree of hypocrisy, you would have fit right in down there. In fact, you might have even been elected student body president...

    ...before getting kicked out of school on account of bad grades.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 28, 2013 12:57 p.m.

    @chewbacca

    Weak. So are you saying utah "fans" are are not "diciples of Jesus"? Equating fandom of a sporting team with religion is undoubtedly the weakest attempt to malign that can possibly be made. Fail.

  • Arm of Orion Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 28, 2013 1:36 p.m.

    In what manner is what Chewbacca said considered weak. BYU fans are predominantly religious as the school is a religious school by nature. That criticism of BYU fans railing on this kid is certainly justified. For if a person who allies themselves with the "Lord's School" shouldn't they ally themselves with the Lord's standard as well? Also you are trying to move the goal posts when you are trying to imply that Chewbacca said U fans aren't followers of Christ, when said poster didn't mention anything of the kind. You got your hand caught in the cookie jar. You're upset. And now you are trying to shift the guilt onto another person.

    However, that does not excuse you from poor argumentation. If you could please try bringing up a more valid point that would be stupendous.

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2013 1:46 p.m.

    @chewbacca

    I read little mockery of the student in these comments. Instead, humor is found in a fan base who have long touted their intellectual superiority through membership in the PAC 12 only to discover clear evidence of the lack thereof.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    May 28, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    SSmith-

    "Instead, humor is found in a fan base who have long touted their intellectual superiority through membership in the PAC 12 only to discover clear evidence of the lack thereof."

    Clear evidence? Because one student messed up? That's clear evidence? Wow. Is that cougar logic your demonstrating?

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    It's EMBARRASSING for Utah to elect a student leader, and then have to kick him out of office because he doesn't have the grades. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is simply spinning.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    May 28, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Hey Ufan- What exactly is embarrassing for Utah? Did they do something wrong? Should they have demanded to see his homework before they voted for him? I don't get it. I think it's his problem and his embarrassment.

    As was stated by Naval Vet, "There's absolutely NO shame in enforcing academic standards." You cougar trolls would mock the U either way.

  • SSmith Salt Lake City, UT
    May 28, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    @chewbacca

    "Clear evidence? Because one student messed up? That's clear evidence? Wow. Is that cougar logic your demonstrating?"

    This is not just "one student," this is your student body president. The one the majority of those voting voted for. The one who "represents" the student body. So yes, this is compelling evidence.

    You can't have it both ways, either your he represents the student body (majority) or the majority exercised poor judgement.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    May 28, 2013 6:05 p.m.

    chewbacca /navelvet

    It's embarrassing because the university apparently isn't smart enough to ensure that every student running for office meets the minimum academic requirements for serving in the office if elected.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 28, 2013 9:06 p.m.

    My comment was directed specifically at the U... a 'research' university of such high scholastic achievement that we are so often reminded.

    "Inconceivable" LOL

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    May 28, 2013 9:38 p.m.

    This is not newsworthy. The U of U student newspaper can report on this. The DN does not need to and should not. This brings nothing but ridicule and embarrassment on the man. His grades do not need to be published for all of Utah to see. He does not represent even a significant readership for the DN, most likely. Poor editorial decision, poor editorial character.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    May 28, 2013 11:56 p.m.

    Claudio

    Stop whining! This is obviously a newsworthy enough article for you to both read and comment about it.

    The young man made himself a public figure by choosing to run for student body president at a public institution. He made his grades a public issue by failing to maintain the minimum GPA to serve in the office to which he was elected.

    His election was publicly announced; therefore, the university had no choice but to announce the reason for his removal from office.

  • Res Novae Ashburn, VA
    May 29, 2013 5:58 a.m.

    @Chewbacca

    The comments here are rather tame in comparison to the ones that LDS temple-recommend holding Ute fans (including some who have chimed in defensively on this article) routingly make in disparagement of BYU, its students, its teams and its coaches on BYU-related articles.

    That said, this isn't a newsworthy story. I'm sure the kid's embarassed enough that the student body knows, having a major Utah newspaper pick up the story is just kicking him when he's down.

  • Go Utes! Springville, UT
    May 29, 2013 6:20 a.m.

    On a similar topic that The Desnews didn't feel like putting in the paper.
    the Ute athletic department posted a 3.15 cumulative GPA for the semester and a 3.1 for the school year. That is extremely impressive. there is an article on KSL about it.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 29, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    @arm of orion

    I like that I have become your cause and purpose, it's fun, and funny. That said my point is right on, being a fan of a team or school is just that and nothing more. utah "fans" try to use the fact that BYU is a religious school as a way to malign the fans but it is an incredibly weak attempt at smack talk. If you have some real trash then bring it, but trying to pretend that BYU fans, most of whom are LDS, should somehow be held to a higher standard than utah "fans", who ironically are also mostly LDS although obviously conflicted by it, is indeed the weakest attempt at an insult that is ever posted on these boards. The only thing weaker is then trying to defend the hypocrisy of it.

  • Utes22 SPRINGVILLE, UT
    May 29, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    @Go Utes

    I saw that as well, both on KSL and on the Salt Lake Tribune. Very nice work by everyone in the athletics department. The coaches really do put an emphasis on athletes going to class and maintaining good grades. That seems like it my be a little bit of a better article to put in the Sports section at the Deseret News. Hopefully that will come eventually.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 29, 2013 11:55 a.m.

    What is amazing is that, PAC12, football, athletics in general, BYU, religion, finger pointing at the media, etc., etc, etc, all got into a small story of a student body change at the U.

    I guess the 100 or so haters and defenders on both sides really need to get a life and quit jumping into the BYU/Utah hate thing on something as simple as a gpa.

    Another question. How many of these comments would have been posted if we couldn't hide behind an alias? (Me too.) I believe the number would drop rapidly.

  • michelle brown manti, UT
    May 30, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Seriously...can't you just leave religion out of it for once?
    The reality is this president was not equipped to do the job. He didn't maintain standards, and I commend ASUU for handling it efficiently before school starts. He clearly needs to focus on his grades. No need to pity him. It is unfortunate he didn't come forward and resign knowing he was not up to standards required for his job. That would have shown integrity and leadership. Instead, he came up with excuses which in the long run waste time and student fees.
    To other comments concerning checking his grades...before someone can run for an elected position, grades are checked. It is possible that he did have the correct GPA in the previous semester. Grades don't come out until May, so once ASUU checked them, they took action and did the right thing.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    May 31, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    Since when isn't a 2.0 good enough at the U. Obviously the riggers of being president takes its toll on a student. Just look at what it has done to Obama. I'm sure his current GPA is less than 2.0.