Good for these students to hold their leadership accountable to higher
standards. Wish all Americans would do the same.
Only at the U...
Required GPA for SB Officer at a PAC 12 School: 2.5Bad Press for the
Supposed Intellectual PAC 12: Priceless
Hey BYU fans ever hear of an ecological fallacy because that is what you are
Arm of OrionEver heard of a Red Herring? "Ecological
fallacy" or not, there's no denying how embarrassing it is for the
University of Utah to have their student president impeached for low GPA.
As employees of the people, all political leaders should show their GPA, or
transcripts, and be accountable.
Please the ASUU has no power and almost no student at the U cares enough to even
pay attention to these meaningless elections. The only people that vote are the
friends of those who are running, just like high school. This is a black eye for
the student and not the university.
I don't know about it being an "ecological fallacy" but I do know
that it is funny.LOL!
Arm of OrionWho cares what "power" the student president
has; it's funny that the face of the Ute's student body doesn't
even have the grades to remain in office.
@arm of orionI just like how despite there being almost a scandal a
month utah "fans" always try to pretend that the university has no blame
in them. If this had been at BYU all of you would be piling on but since it
happened at utah you want to pretend it is no mark against the university. That
This is not newsworthy. Too bad for the kid though, hopefully now he
will work a little harder in his studies.
The supposed diciples of Jesus come to this public forum to mock a young
man's failings. Nice.
I feel terrible for the young man to have to go through something like this, but
this is the right course of action. There are policies in place for a reason,
and if exceptions keep on being made you might as well not even have them.wwookie is right; this pattern of accountability should exist in federal
government as well.
SportsFan:"'Ecological fallacy' or not, there's
no denying how embarrassing it is for the University of Utah to have their
student president impeached for low GPA."No...what would have
been embarrassing for the Univ. of Utah, would be to NOT impeach a student body
president after failing to maintain the minimum GPA requirement. There's
absolutely NO shame in enforcing academic standards. On the other hand, it must
have been so embarrassing to discover your fellow Indy-WACers did NOT know what
a ecological fallacy is. Typical.Duckhunter:"I just
like how despite there being almost a scandal a month utah 'fans'
always try to pretend that the university has no blame in them."...said the Indy-WACer who likes to make believe that the there can be no
blame or shame at the Y. I know you never got accepted into the Y, but you can
rest assure yourself that armed with your degree of hypocrisy, you would have
fit right in down there. In fact, you might have even been elected student body
president......before getting kicked out of school on account of bad
@chewbaccaWeak. So are you saying utah "fans" are are not
"diciples of Jesus"? Equating fandom of a sporting team with religion is
undoubtedly the weakest attempt to malign that can possibly be made. Fail.
In what manner is what Chewbacca said considered weak. BYU fans are
predominantly religious as the school is a religious school by nature. That
criticism of BYU fans railing on this kid is certainly justified. For if a
person who allies themselves with the "Lord's School"
shouldn't they ally themselves with the Lord's standard as well? Also
you are trying to move the goal posts when you are trying to imply that
Chewbacca said U fans aren't followers of Christ, when said poster
didn't mention anything of the kind. You got your hand caught in the cookie
jar. You're upset. And now you are trying to shift the guilt onto another
person. However, that does not excuse you from poor argumentation.
If you could please try bringing up a more valid point that would be stupendous.
@chewbaccaI read little mockery of the student in these comments.
Instead, humor is found in a fan base who have long touted their intellectual
superiority through membership in the PAC 12 only to discover clear evidence of
the lack thereof.
SSmith-"Instead, humor is found in a fan base who have long
touted their intellectual superiority through membership in the PAC 12 only to
discover clear evidence of the lack thereof."Clear evidence?
Because one student messed up? That's clear evidence? Wow. Is that
cougar logic your demonstrating?
Naval VetIt's EMBARRASSING for Utah to elect a student leader,
and then have to kick him out of office because he doesn't have the grades.
Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is simply spinning.
Hey Ufan- What exactly is embarrassing for Utah? Did they do something wrong?
Should they have demanded to see his homework before they voted for him? I
don't get it. I think it's his problem and his embarrassment. As was stated by Naval Vet, "There's absolutely NO shame in
enforcing academic standards." You cougar trolls would mock the U either
@chewbacca"Clear evidence? Because one student messed up?
That's clear evidence? Wow. Is that cougar logic your
demonstrating?"This is not just "one student," this is
your student body president. The one the majority of those voting voted for.
The one who "represents" the student body. So yes, this is compelling
evidence.You can't have it both ways, either your he represents
the student body (majority) or the majority exercised poor judgement.
chewbacca /navelvetIt's embarrassing because the university
apparently isn't smart enough to ensure that every student running for
office meets the minimum academic requirements for serving in the office if
My comment was directed specifically at the U... a 'research'
university of such high scholastic achievement that we are so often reminded."Inconceivable" LOL
This is not newsworthy. The U of U student newspaper can report on this. The
DN does not need to and should not. This brings nothing but ridicule and
embarrassment on the man. His grades do not need to be published for all of
Utah to see. He does not represent even a significant readership for the DN,
most likely. Poor editorial decision, poor editorial character.
ClaudioStop whining! This is obviously a newsworthy enough article
for you to both read and comment about it.The young man made himself
a public figure by choosing to run for student body president at a public
institution. He made his grades a public issue by failing to maintain the
minimum GPA to serve in the office to which he was elected.His
election was publicly announced; therefore, the university had no choice but to
announce the reason for his removal from office.
@ChewbaccaThe comments here are rather tame in comparison to the
ones that LDS temple-recommend holding Ute fans (including some who have chimed
in defensively on this article) routingly make in disparagement of BYU, its
students, its teams and its coaches on BYU-related articles.That
said, this isn't a newsworthy story. I'm sure the kid's
embarassed enough that the student body knows, having a major Utah newspaper
pick up the story is just kicking him when he's down.
On a similar topic that The Desnews didn't feel like putting in the paper.
the Ute athletic department posted a 3.15 cumulative GPA for the semester
and a 3.1 for the school year. That is extremely impressive. there is an
article on KSL about it.
@arm of orionI like that I have become your cause and purpose,
it's fun, and funny. That said my point is right on, being a fan of a team
or school is just that and nothing more. utah "fans" try to use the fact
that BYU is a religious school as a way to malign the fans but it is an
incredibly weak attempt at smack talk. If you have some real trash then bring
it, but trying to pretend that BYU fans, most of whom are LDS, should somehow be
held to a higher standard than utah "fans", who ironically are also
mostly LDS although obviously conflicted by it, is indeed the weakest attempt at
an insult that is ever posted on these boards. The only thing weaker is then
trying to defend the hypocrisy of it.
@Go UtesI saw that as well, both on KSL and on the Salt Lake
Tribune. Very nice work by everyone in the athletics department. The coaches
really do put an emphasis on athletes going to class and maintaining good
grades. That seems like it my be a little bit of a better article to put in the
Sports section at the Deseret News. Hopefully that will come eventually.
What is amazing is that, PAC12, football, athletics in general, BYU, religion,
finger pointing at the media, etc., etc, etc, all got into a small story of a
student body change at the U. I guess the 100 or so haters and
defenders on both sides really need to get a life and quit jumping into the
BYU/Utah hate thing on something as simple as a gpa.Another
question. How many of these comments would have been posted if we couldn't
hide behind an alias? (Me too.) I believe the number would drop rapidly.
Seriously...can't you just leave religion out of it for once?The
reality is this president was not equipped to do the job. He didn't
maintain standards, and I commend ASUU for handling it efficiently before school
starts. He clearly needs to focus on his grades. No need to pity him. It is
unfortunate he didn't come forward and resign knowing he was not up to
standards required for his job. That would have shown integrity and leadership.
Instead, he came up with excuses which in the long run waste time and student
fees. To other comments concerning checking his grades...before someone
can run for an elected position, grades are checked. It is possible that he did
have the correct GPA in the previous semester. Grades don't come out until
May, so once ASUU checked them, they took action and did the right thing.
Since when isn't a 2.0 good enough at the U. Obviously the riggers of
being president takes its toll on a student. Just look at what it has done to
Obama. I'm sure his current GPA is less than 2.0.