I will never get why anyone would want to do this--especially twice. I guess it
just takes a certain type of personality. But, I still don't see why
anyone would put themself through this. Did she say she was sharing in the
prize money? Did I get that right? If so, that might explain it. Otherwise, I
don't get it.
To "Cats", I've seen nothing that indicates that Dawn would share
any of the prize money that was won by John Cochran.So, I guess you
won't, "see why anyone would put themself through this."
The top finishers all get money, only much lesser amounts. The 2nd place gets
$100,000, the 3rd, $50,000, etc.Survivor winning amounts go down to $2,500
to the 16th place finisher. The amounts can be changed at the discretion of the
producer.In a previous show the two runners up who were tied for 2nd each
Yep, Dawn and Sheri are splitting the runner up money so she will still get
Truly no good deed goes unpunished. Dawn proved this adage without question in
this season. If the human spirit was allowed to triumph, Brenda would have won
hands down. It was Brenda who was noble. It was Brenda who didn't whine and
complain and was able to sacrifice in spite of her own needs. She was my winner.
I was truly inspired by her play in this game whatever her motivation. I
couldn't even have my children watch the Brenda episode. It hurt too much
to see someone do something so selfless as Brenda only to see Dawn stab her in
the back. I realize that it is a game and that blindsides are part of it, but
you want to believe that goodness can triumph in this world. We want to cheer it
when we see it because it often goes the other way especially when money is
involved. I won't declare a Shame on You Dawn, but I would say you let slip
a golden opportunity for goodness to win and went with cunning. Am I the only
one who feels this way?
I like Dawn and was pulling for her but her incessant crying ultimately turned
me off. I've never seen an adult cry so violently and so quickly over
common things that had virtually no impact on the rest of the cast. She started
to drive me absolutely nuts to the point I would fast forward her volcanic
meltdowns anytime I saw them coming (which was all the time). She must have a
patient husband. The other comment I have is this notion of "it is just a
game". As if saying that out loud automatically gives a person the right to
lie, deceive, and manipulate with impunity. What rationalization. What it really
is, is a complicated and tortuous business transaction being played out for
entertainment purposes on TV. It is real money, real people, real emotions, real
friendships, real reputations.... and real deceit. A rose by any other name
would smell as sweet.
I did grow tired of Dawn's meltdowns, but then I have had my times too. As
for the Brenda deal, did anyone forget that Brenda broke Dawn's heart on
her 21st anniversary? I don't think Dawn voted her out because of that,
but I think that like Brenda, she was playing the game.
To each his own, I suppose. I just know that I would do terribly in such
a competition, no matter how many times I played, because I could not bring
myself to be so deceitful and untrustworthy. Consequently, it is really, really
hard for me to understand why anyone with any integrity would even want to try
and compete. I'm not going to argue that my view is right, or good, and
that willing participants are wrong, or bad. I'm just saying that I
can't find a way to see the world from that point of view. It is really
mind boggling. I suppose that is why I'll never get $100K for two
months worth of "work." On the other hand, surviving in the real world,
while holding on to at least some degree of integrity, is challenge enough for
me. This is especially true since I know it isn't likely to be all over
with in just 39 days.
FanofTHEgame, I hope you're the only one who feels that way.
Dawn just played the game and yes it can be nasty and cutthroat at times.
Brenda PRETENDED to be noble but she displayed her true colors with the evil
teeth dare. It wasn't going to change her vote either way -- just a way to
humiliate Dawn. Pure gratuitous meanness - the meanest thing I've seen on
Survivor (and that includes Colton).As MoJules points out, Brenda
didn't hesitate to crush Dawn, Indian-giver style, when she believed it
could score her more points with the rest of the tribe. Having seen her in the
previous season I never doubted she was just in it for herself, which is fine -
just don't claim otherwise.The only difference in the way Dawn
and Cochran played was that Dawn was more conflicted and emotional and she
explained the reason for that very well.
Was Brenda's act of finding the teeth really that noble and selfless? I
believe she had an ulterior motive of being seen favorably by Dawn. But, she
did stab Dawn when she gave the family reward to the other 4. Brenda also had
her own melt down as well. I do think, like Dawn said, that everyone had their
own way of coping with the stress and hers, in this season, was crying. I can
understand that it was a bit tiresome to watch, but I would have been the exact
same way, and I definitely wouldn't have been there 39 days. Branda was
also the only player, except for Francessca (whom I believe had a right to be a
bit frustrated with being voted out first both times), who left the game very
angry. I wonder if she was truly "hurt" or if she was just mad that she
didn't make it. Even Andrea showed more class by just laughing at the
group and shaking her head unbelieveably. In my eyes, she was one of my
You know the point of almost all competitive games is to deceive and blindside.
It's simply a matter of degree and style. The high and mighty declarations
of I couldn't bring myself to do this for any amount of money is comical.
Try watching a football game, or a basketball game. It's all about deceit.
It's about trying to make someone think you are going to do one thing and
then you do another. Deceit in business is a daily occurrence even
if it's only purposefully hiding what you're doing from others. The
genius of Survivor is it lays multiple layers of planning, strategy, and deceit
on top of each other and then forces the players to play out their game in front
of the whole world.What gets Survivor players is not the degree of
their deceit, the more the better, it's the style they play with.
That's the difference between a Dawn and a Boston Rob.
I was not a Dawn Fan because of her weak strategy (the stick with the aliance
philosophy went WAY to late into the game). Boston Rules are just recycled
tactics bullies use to keep weak people in line. BR is basically intimidation
and control. It's booring to watch the majority just accept the pecking
order in the tribe, and just pick off the minority tribe for weeks.
booring.As for the emotions... Anybody who's married to a
sensitive woman knows when physical and emotional limits are consistently above
tolerable... those emotions hover right at the surface and can overflow at
ANYTHING (good or bad).As for Brenda. She's a hypocrit.
Brenda was playing the game too, and that's all Dawn was doing with that
vote (advancing her chances of winning). Brenda got her heart hurt. She
needs to remember that she hurt one player's heart just the day before by
throwing her under the bus and giving all players but Dawn a reward (which
obviously she thought bought jury votes) which means NOBODY wants to go to the
end with her with all those jury votes in her pocket. Brenda wanted to win
Really? Such a pathetic waste of time. You defined it perfectly, Bifftacular.
Entertainment and deceit, and the lemmings fall for it while the rest of the
world starves and dies young.
ShazandraWould my not watching it prevent the world from starving and
dieing young? Really?All entertainment is technically a "waste
of time". Don't judge others for what THEY choose as entertainment
unless you want them juding YOU for what you choose as your entertainement (ie
castigating you if you chose to enjoy going to a bar with friends instead,
etc).Watching Survivor it not starving the kids... give me a
Expressing an opinion is not the same as giving a judgment call, necessarily...
Although, if the couch potato fits, wear it.You can fill your time
walking your dog or watching warts grow. The issue here is what
"quality" of entertainment Survivor is. There is actually lots of life
lessons to be learned by watching this show. One of which is vowing never to
waste another minute watching future episodes. Bifftacular just nailed the
greed and deceit angle dead-on.You can run around after Lindsay
Lohan and Paris Hilton. Or you can book a flight with Anjolina Jolie to a Third
World country. There is a judgment in those two choices, irrespective of
whether you enjoy their "entertainment" on the big screen or not. Life
is all about choices.