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Utah Utes Rugby finds itself in similar situation to what Utah Hockey overcame

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  • Sports Are Great Salt Lake City, UT
    May 10, 2013 12:52 p.m.

    Way to represent the university and our state guys.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 10, 2013 4:56 p.m.

    Thanks for pointing out the pattern of bad behavior exibited by the club sports programs at the university of utah over the last decade. It is certainly reason to reconsider even allowing the university to sponsor club athletic teams. This is not the sort of thing we need representing our state, it is an embarrassment.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    May 11, 2013 12:21 a.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    Your comment seems unreasonably judgmental.

    The story sounds like a tale of redemption and working hard to overcome mistakes of the past.

    I'm reminded of a couple of high profile Cougar athletes (one football and one basketball)who overcame mistakes and are now idolized and considered heros by the Cougar Nation.

    If Cougars can find redemption from past mistakes shouldn't Utes be allowed the same opportunity?

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    May 11, 2013 5:36 p.m.

    Looks like a lack of institutional control.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 12, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    @howie

    The actions of a single individual are hardly comparable to the obvious wide spread lack of control of entire progams. Fail.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    May 12, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    Duckhunter
    Highland, UT

    Lack of control?

    Unless I'm missing something the University responded to infractions by suspending both the hockey and the rugby programs.

    That's taking control... not lack of control.

    I am curious, Mr. Duckhunter. Who appointed the Duckhunter arbiter over which group or individuals are granted redemption and which are not?

    But, in any case I understand where you're coming from Mr.Duckhunter... blind PAC12 envy tends impair good judgement.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 13, 2013 10:07 p.m.

    howie

    PAC12 envy???

    Sorry, but BYU BEAT your PAC 12 conference mate, the most dominant college rugby program in the country the last 30 years, to win the 2013 national championship.

    For envious little brother, see mirror.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    May 13, 2013 10:38 p.m.

    Snack PAC
    Olympus Cove, Utah

    Rugby... Really?

    What's that?

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 13, 2013 10:57 p.m.

    howie

    "Rugby... Really?

    What's that?"

    The subject of the article and just another sport in which our little brother's accomplishments pale in comparison to BYU's.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 13, 2013 11:09 p.m.

    Current NACDA Director's Cup 2012-2013 Standings

    #45 BYU 308.00 points
    #63 Utah 228.75 points

    Since Utah is basically finished for the year, for the 20th straight year, BYU will finish ahead of Utah in the Director's Cup Standings, which measures overall athletic success.

    By the time Men's Volleyball, Track & Field, Baseball and Softball are calculated into the mix, BYU will likely climb into the Top 30.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    May 14, 2013 7:38 a.m.

    Snack PAC
    Olympus Cove, Utah

    If a non-NCAA club sport championship or Directors Cup rankings had any relevance in the modern era of college athletics Cougar Nation wouldn't be sitting by waiting for a phone call from the PAC12 or the BIG12.

    But sadly, the Cougar Nation is relegated to admiring its second tier sports accomplishments... and hoping and waiting for the phone to ring.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    May 14, 2013 10:42 a.m.

    Howard S.

    "If a non-NCAA club sport championship or Directors Cup rankings had any relevance in the modern era of college athletics Cougar Nation wouldn't be sitting by waiting for a phone call from the PAC12 or the BIG12."

    Actually, you're dead wrong - the reason BYU isn't already a member of the PAC 12 or Big 12 has NOTHING to do with the excellence of BYU's athletic programs; the reason BYU isn't already a member of the PAC 12 or Big 12 is BYU's no Sunday play policy and the religious bigotry of a few west coast schools.

    It's laughable that Utah fans use their PAC 12 membership as proof of their athletic "excellence", when the only thing the Utes have accomplished in nearly two full seasons in the PAC 12 is to be a whipping boy for the big boys of the conference.

    Unfortunately for U, BYU's "second tier" accomplishments far exceed ANYTHING the Utes have accomplished in any PAC 12 sport. Remind us again how many conference championships the Utes have won since joining the PAC 12. Have Utah's men finished out of the basement in ANY conference sport?

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    May 14, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Howard S.

    What exactly does finishing at or near the bottom of the conference in every sport prove?

    Enjoy being a less-accomplished version of the Northwestern of the BlG or the Vanderbilt of the SEC or the Iowa St of the Big 12 because that's your future - a big boy wannabe.

    7-11 in football; 8-28 in basketball; 15-39 combined for a whopping 28% winning percentage since joining the PAC 12.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    May 14, 2013 11:17 p.m.

    The formula followed by the hockey team on their path to redemption seems to be a good one to follow for the rugby team. I hope they have the wisdom to follow it and to the extent they do, I wish them well.