Marvin Williams - "I was able to play with a great group of guys".
I'm sure fans like the idea that the players get along with each other and
that has to help team chemistry. However, my ward basketball team is also a
"great group of guys" but I can guarantee that you wouldn't want to
pay money to see us play. Especially what it costs to attend a Jazz game.
I'm of course being sarcastic and know you can't compare the two, but
the fact remains that Jazz fans expect the team to make the playoffs and even
want to push beyond the 1st round. It's hard to accept what we're
getting with this team. I hope for big changes in the off season. I know
changing does guarantee we will be better, but standing pat sure won't make
us better either. We need to be bold and go a different direction.
"Moneyball" is the game Jazz decision-makers should be playing now!
Small market, less money to spend, go after the "undervalued" players,
get a great, (not just a good), point guard, and pay attention to what Gordon
Hayward said, the need for more energy and toughness on the road. Utah HS Lone
Peak has shown it can be done, lets get a championship mentality on the Utah
Jazz team and use our resources to succeed.
Millsap "checked out" when he refused the extension.It is
very likely that Jefferson will get a huge deal considering he will be the
biggest offensive free agent out their period.Millsap will get some
big dollars as well and very likely will never comeback. Millsap played for
large portions of time this season like he already had a deal somewhere else.New chapter for this organization. With all this youth there will be
some serious bumps ahead. I hope they are able to keep Foye and mix in some
other veterans who understand the Jazz are moving ahead with they youth
movement. In a few years after we get all these guys chemistry humming then
perhaps LeBron and the Heat will be fading a bit.Timing is
everything considering we would have had two championship banners hanging if
Stockton and Malone would not have had to go against the best ever in his prime.
Nice guys. Well isn't that special. I don't want to pay $80 to sit in
the Lower Bowl and watch a bunch of nice guys. Nice guys are soft and feable on
the road. Bring in some jerks who can play and you will get me renewing my
season tickets. And please get rid of that nice guy Corbin. Nationally he is the
butt of jokes and probably regarded as the most clueless coach in the league.
bano, where do you get the "nationally butt of jokes" info from? Blaming
Corbin on this bunch of misfits is a joke itself. Corbin won within five games
of Jerry Sloans average. He did it without a point guard! Everyone give the guy
another chance and quit the whining. This team was a one trick pony that
couldn't pass out of the post or play defense.
Please Marvin, don't pick up that player option! Please! Corbin plays you
like you are a superstar, but you are the 10th best player on this team.
Please, don't come back!
millsap checked out when they changed the offence after mo came back. thats when
al mo gordon and foye got all the shots. millsap was the point guard i guess.
and might i add that is when they started on the losing streak. it would be hard
in a contract year to go from 12 to 15 shots to 7 and see not only was someone
else getting your shots it wasen't working you were losing. he did not look
happy happy happy.
louisiana jazz man.. Right on. Millsap going from option three to setting
screens, and clearing space for Jefferson. Most of the folks blogging here only
watch the stat line, points scored. It doesn't matter if most of the
divisions best players ended up being guarded by Marvin either, it directly
effected his scoring option (maybe 5th on the floor). He and Hayward both were
relegated most of the time to setting screens and playing the toughest defense.
I don't want to give him a pass either, I thought both Marvin and Hayward
hid from the ball at times. Most of this offense was set throwing the ball into
Jefferson and clearing out while he got his shot.
Sorry fortydam, but, in my opinion, you are wrong about giving Corbin more time
as head coach for the Jazz. The head coaching position should not be given to
someone who requires on the job training.Over the course of the
season, I watched as Tyrone Corbin played the wrong lineups, mismanaged
players' time on the court, and seemed generally befuddled as to what he
should do. I do agree that the players deserve some of the criticism, but
it's Corbin's responsibility to get them ready to play.After a loss, Rick Majerus (the great University of Utah coach) always blamed
himself. He took full responsibility for the losses because he understood that
he was the one "calling all the shots." Tyrone would do himself a world
of good to borrow game films from the Utes and watch how Majerus often beat more
talented teams by understanding the Xs and Os of the game of basketball.My "dream" would be to have a Majerus type coach handling the
reins for the Jazz. Had Rick been the Jazz coach this past season, they would
have made the playoffs qualifying as the 6th seed, winning 7 to 10 more games.
re: fortydamUh, Marvin Williams had open shots from the word go.
Regardless of who he supposedly had guarding him...they were usually down
doubling Jefferson. Williams has never had so many open looks. Stop making
excuses for him. The dude was a massive bust his first season here.
A guy with that amount of athletic talent ought to be able to produce more than
what he did in his sleep.As far as Millsap is concerned, I thought
he was a blue collar type player? Who just got in there and worked to get what
he got? How about rebounds? How about effort?I can't stand it
when people excuse lazy no effort players based on them not getting enough
shots. Like that is an excuse to stop making an effort. Last time I checked it
was a team sport.Lets not forget the team went on quite the winning
streak to finish the season...at the same time Millsap was sulking and pouting
and not producing.Millsap is generally a good hard working role
player. The fact he turned into a "I'm entitled to a certain amount of
shots or I won't play" speaks volumes.
Yes fortydam is very wrong. The Jazz WERE poorly coached. Anyone with two eyes
could have seen that this year. All national analysts have been critical of
Corbin all year. The only ones supportive of Corbin have been those employed by
the Jazz like David Locke and other local media types working for the
Miller's radio station. The Jazz gave terrible efforts in many important
games both home and away. Getting an effort out of his players should be one
of the responsibilities of the coach right? The Jazz played poor defense all
year. They had no plan on offense the majority of the time. The rotations had
no rhyme or reason to them. And lastly, Corbin was constantly praising his
players whether they gave an effort or not. That's poor leadership and
coaching. Corbin has demonstrated that he is in over his head and many people
including former players, nba analysts, and fans can easily see that.
Look at Marvins shooting percentage next to Foye, Mo, Burks, and Hayward.
@fortydamFrom the official 2013 Jazz statistics:FG %Hayward - .435Foye - .397Mo - .43Burks - .42Marvin -
.423So Hayward and Mo are better while Burks is about the same as
Marvin. Marvin is only better than Foye, but remember why Foye was brought here
- 3 point shooting. Foye shot .41 from distance while Marvin shot only .325I would also argue that even if Marvin shot better than Burks, Burks is
at least aggressive and makes things happen while Marvin stands around the 3
point line looking for hand outs. Point in fact, Marvin averaged 6 more minutes
a game than Burks but only averaged 1.4 free throws compared to 2.0 for
Burks.And here's the kicker. Most fans wanted to see Carroll on
the floor instead of Marvin. Carroll's FG% is better than all those
mentioned above at .46.
Millcrap checked out when he became a starter. He is a decent role player, not
starting material in the NBA. Nothing more, nothing less. Big Al needs to be
resigned. I would rather pay to watch a bunch of jerks who know how to play and
win then pay to watch some nice guys who win once in a while. I want to see the
team win, not be known as the friendliest locker room in the NBA.
My point was they shoot all about the same. Defensively Marvin helped on some
very good players throughout the season. I thought his outside shot looked like
a brick! There are many small things wrong with the makeup of this team. Corbin's a rookie.No point guard.Jefferson cannot/will
not play defense. Millsap is undersized. Mo. is Boozer injury prone
and isn't that good.Foye is not a starter. Marvin, cannot/will
not fit into this antique offense.Hayward, still young makes stupid
mistakesBurks, see HaywardEvans, What were they thinkingKanter, Promising very talented big man that plays great defense. Favors, a five not a four. Carroll, a keeper Changing a
coach this early will only extend the process. If he continues to show lack of
imagination and throw this antique offense at every team in the league that
defended it years ago, then not just Corbin, but the whole bunch needs to go.
Brahmabull signing Al would be the biggest mistake of all.
Corby and Lowe coming back...Same ol thing..Do not Defend 3s. Say in Timeouts
"Cmon Guys". Soft players who are not tough to win key road games.
Pound it into AL and watch...Continue giving Old Vets the Playing time...Think
you can win every game by a shootout. A philosophy that has not changed since
Derek Fisher left this organization. Fun and Competitive. No Changes. Battle
for #8 make it great If not WHO CARES..That is because the fans accept it
saying NO BIG DEAL THE PLAYERS AND BEAR so likable...Despite posts here I will
say what I have..The Majority in the state do not take it seriously. As a
result Greg, does not take you Seriously either...