Utes fans should be concerned. As the saying goes, "if you've got two
good QBs, you've got none."
Hondo,Are you concerned about the QB situation down there in
WACistan? How many good QBs do you have? Because by the tone of your last
comment, it sounds like you have only just the 1. Utah had only 1 good QB back
in 2011 and 2012, and we didn't do so hot. You must be absolutely freaking
out right about now. You're looking down the barrell of about 5 months of
sleepness nights. Poor Indy-WACer.
To be fair, Whittingham probably learned how to be overly optimistic when he was
down in the bubble during his playing days. That being said, Duckhunter is
right about the Utah QB situation. In order to do anything better
than 4-8, Utah fans better hope that Whittingham is acting like there is a QB
battle only to push Wilson. Surely a heavily recruited Sophomore with PAC-12
experience is heads and shoulders better than a nobody from rural WI that
didn't get any offers from any teams, right?????
Duckhunter:"...now he is telling us a sophomore coming off a
pretty average season and a walk on no one wanted are both 'upper
echelon' qb's in the pac12,...I can't wait for your 'frantic
and emotional' reply."Well it sure didn't take me long
to hear YOUR frantic and emotional reply. Your time stamp indicated a 37-minute
difference, but considering my post was delayed by the moderators, it was
actually a lot sooner than that. Whittingham said "MAYBE even
upper-echelon". "MAYBE"! Now here's what the
Pac-12's ESPN writers had to say about Wilson:"Of course,
Wilson was a true freshman last year...it's worth noting that his
efficiency rating was better than Washington State's Jeff Tuel and Connor
Halliday and essentially equal to Washington's Keith Price...He's got
potential...The Utes might surprise some folks." -- Ted MillerSo
it would appear that Whittingham isn't the ONLY one who thinks that Wilson
"MAY BE" an upper echelon QB in the Pac-12. If a "true
freshman" playing only 1/2 a season is drawing comparisons to upperclassmen
like Tuel, Halliday, and Price, he can't be THAT bad.
Oh what fun it is to read a Utah story then read the frantic troller posts that
follow!! Sheer entertainment!Go Utes!!
I for one hope to see Utah get back in the qb business. I will say this, after
watching both teams scrimmage, it is true that Utah has two pretty equal qbs
battling it out; however, BYU's top three are so much better than the
Utah qbs, they are out of their league. Not even close. Hill, Olson, and Mangum
were hitting receivers in stride over and over on deep bombs down the sidelines,
not to mention hitting crossing and out patterns on a consistent basis. I
don't think that is how we should judge the Utah qbs simply because it is
spring. What counts is what they do in games, and like I said earlier, I hope
Utah finds a good one.
Koog1,As a BYU fan, you spent your precious time watching Utah
scrimmage? Furthermore, you viewed each scrimmage without bias? I find that
hard to believe.
It's funny that utes think they can beat good teams. they never beat good
Hondo:Objectively, can you really say you think Wilson has better
skills than Hill? I'm a Ute fan through and through, but having watched
both I'd much rather have Hill. I've not seen Schultz, but I've
seen plenty of Wilson, dating back to his high school days. He's okay,
he's who we've got, so he's who I'll be cheering for, but
objectively, HIll is both a better passer and runner. Also, Harbaugh's a
better judge of QB talent than either of us, and he recruited Hill to Stanford.
If you think it's impossible to watch both scrimmages without bias, then
your own bias is glaring. C'mon, man!
Hondo,There are a lot of things you don't know. And yes, for
reasons I will not mention on here, I spent time at both scrimmages; on the
field. What can I say other than both scrimmages were fun and very beneficial.
Oh, and did I mention, I hope Utah is able to have a very good qb this year and
in the future? You should pay more attention to my posts. I do not dislike Utah,
I dislike Utah "fans" who are haters. Big difference.
I want shulz to get the job. Wilson looked fair at best. IMO
Spokane Ute,It is very close between the two qbs. Whoever the
coaches choose, you can take solace in the fact that you have a solid backup.
Wilson is very good. He just needs to work on accuracy and timing with the
receivers. His footwork is solid and where he lacks in his ability to read
defenses, he will make up with his patience. He doesn't seem to get rattled
too easily. Stuff that can be worked on and he could really come out looking
good this fall. Shulz is feisty and has heart. To step in and challenge Wilson
79Utes wonders "Objectively, can you really say you think Wilson has better
skills than Hill?"Pessimistically, I'd take the QB who is not
coming back from a season-ending knee injury. Ute fans thought Wynn's
shoulder was good to go. Cougar fans should pay close attention to whomever the
number 2 quarterback is. They may see a lot of him next year.
@ Cougar1,"I do not dislike Utah, I dislike Utah "fans"
who are haters. Big difference." Amen to that, brother! And that goes the
same with BYU fans who act the same way towards the Utes. There's just no
excuse for that and I wish it would stop. I especially loathe those who posts
insincerely just to solicit hateful responses. I do hope the Utes
dominates all their opponents except against the Cougars! I can't wait for
that game to happen. Hope it'll be an epic game with my cougars coming out
SoonerUte,That is a very good point. Which is why I have paid close
attention to Ammon Olson this year, who appears to be every bit as good as Hill
minus the experience as a starter.bigsamoan,Amen. I love
to talk football and I love a little friendly banter with my friends who are
Utah faithful. Maybe that is what some Ute and Cougar fans are really trying to
do here, however when done in writing the translation seems to be lost. I
realize that.I also realize that some are just trying to be haters.
Re: 79 UteYour gushing over Hill is interesting. From the the brief
look we had of him last year he looked like another all run, no throw QB, not
much better than his predecessor. I don't care how good he was in HS, this
is the big time. Well, in BYU's case, kinda big time sometimes.
ImaCaMan,Good point. He showed some serious skills in his passing
game this spring. The question is, will it translate onto the field this fall? I
hope so. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that we had an o-coordinator
who kept running the option and a running backs coach whose specialty was the
option. Maybe with Anae and Atuaia we will see what Hill is really capable of.
The 4th string BYU QB is better than these guys.
@navalSo you post a reply at the same time you whine to the
moderators to remove my post. LOL
On Hill:I know it is a relflex for Y fans to annoit their qb as the second
coming of Steve Young every April but the fact is Hill is coming off a serious
knee injury along with other problems. Hill is very athletic but uses that that
athleticism at the expense of his read progression. He locks onto his primary
reciever or takes off running way to early. Hill's test will come as teams
not named Hawaii specifically game plan for him.On Wilson:Size and
experience are on his side but I will wait to see if there truly is an
improvement in arm strenth. Arm strength and accuracy were not awful but you
expect a guy of his stature to really sling it and fit the ball into smaller
windows. Has he developed enough mentally to have the coaching staff take the
training wheels of the offense. Lets see what Wilson can do, if the Utes do not
throttle up the offense don't plan on bowling.
79Ute:"Harbaugh's a better judge of QB talent than either
of us, and he recruited Hill to Stanford."It's true that
Harbaugh did not recruit Wilson out of high school, whereas he DID recruit Hill.
However, it's ALSO true that when Wilson was being recruited out of high
school, Harbaugh was coaching the 49ers. Do ya think that might have had
something to do with it?And speaking of Harbaugh's recruiting,
Hill was recruited back in 2009. Know who ELSE was recruited in that same
class? 4-star QB Josh Nunes; Stanford's starter until he got injured.
Hill was being recruited as Nunes backup. No wonder he transfered to the Y.
It's funny how BYU fans post about things like "who has the
best________"...I'm happy to say you've got the best
QB...as long as we keep beating you 3 in a row...8 of 11...You can
even have the best kicker if you want...(white flag waiving)...
@79UteObjectively, can you really say you think Wilson has better skills
than Hill? I'm a Ute fan through and through, but having watched both
I'd much rather have Hill. ----------Hill has
better skills? He's a dual threat QB, so I'll give him that but is he
a better passer?Hill's QB rating is 122 with only 3 games
@Boise, Utah State, and Hawaii.Wislon's QB rating is 122 with 7
games including @ULCA, @Oregon State, etc.Pretty even to me.I think all of Ute Nation has had enough with an injury prone QB over
the last 3 years, so no way I would take Hill over Wilson.
At the very least, our young, inexperienced OC didn't make any dumb
mistakes to jeopardize Wilson's safety as opposed to than their young,
inexperienced (and recently thrown under the bus) OC's handling of Hill. The young man appears to be a fine athlete, a class act and deserved better.
"On Hill:I know it is a relflex for Y fans to annoit their qb as the
second coming of Steve Young every April but the fact is Hill is coming off a
serious knee injury along with other problems. Hill is very athletic but uses
that that athleticism at the expense of his read progression. He locks onto his
primary reciever or takes off running way to early. Hill's test will come
as teams not named Hawaii specifically game plan for him."gonefishin,Please provide a comment from the last 3 years where a
Y fan has declared the second coming of Steve Young. Just one from each
year....As for Hill, time will only tell if his knee will be an
issue. I hope it is not, but if it is, no worries. Olson looked very good this
spring, as did Hill, although Hill never saw time in the spring game.
@ cougar1I hope you are right with feeling that both are good
QB's. I'm just not sold on Wilson for the reasons stated. Mainly I
don't recall him throwing the 50+ yard bomb and stretching the field last
year. I guess we shall see. Thanks for the response and civil dialogue; always a
classy and welcome move. Take Care!
@Spokane UteThanks and I agree with what you say about Wilson not
stretching the field. Another point of interest, after watching some highlights
of Manning, when he shows this fall, he may end up being the best qb on roster.
He is very impressive. All the football geeks I talk to every sunday can't
seem to say enough good things about him.
It's actually kinda fun to read this story and the posts it generated.
I'm not going to debate whose apparent starting qb is better. And what is
beyond debate is this - your trolls are a lot more vicious, prolific and useless
Y Grad / Y DadAmen Bro!
The Utes still need a QB.