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BYU, Arizona schedule 3-game series, including 1 in Glendale

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  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 12, 2013 11:59 a.m.

    Trust me, this is not a two for one. (However don't read the handwritten comments explaining why it was structured this way. Something about Holmoe's word of not accepting anything but a home and home arrangement.)

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 12, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    This looks like a great series. Arizona is no powerhouse, but having regional games where BYU has a large fan base makes a lot of sense... and we need some easier games on the schedule. They can't all be Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Texas. Go Cougs!

  • UteNationAlum Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 12, 2013 12:17 p.m.

    This will be the closest BYU ever gets to a Fiesta Bowl...

  • Buzzards LEHI, UT
    April 12, 2013 12:24 p.m.

    Psst...UteNation. It's closer than the Utes got to a bowl of amy kind last year, and probably closer than you will get this year. Just sayin...

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    April 12, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    @Utenationalum

    BYU already has played in the Fiesta Bowl (1974). If you are going to attempt bashing BYU, at least check your facts.

    This series looks interesting. I lived in Tucson for a year back when the fan base claimed they didn't have a football team, having fgone winless in conference play for two straight seasons. I am glad Arizon is no longer a winless doormat of a big name conference. Arizona makes bowls, gets ranked and is competetive each year. The doormat is reserved for some other PAC-12 bottom-dweller!!

  • Bluesmack south jordan, UT
    April 12, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    Love Independence!...I guess BYU may not fit as a member of the PAC, but at least PAC schools are willing to play BYU and go against the prejudices of their Conference presidents. I see more PAC schools scheduling BYU, and BYU announcing more series with the elite around the nation. Exciting times.

  • AZgrandma Pomerene, AZ
    April 12, 2013 12:48 p.m.

    BYU played in the Fiesta Bowl in 1974 against Oklahoma. I was their first bowl game appearance. I went to the game. Gary Sheide was quarterback and was injured during the game. BYU used its backup quarterback.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 12, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    @Who am I sir?

    You're right, this isn't a two-for-one...it's actually a two-for-zero. Arizona will buy out the final game just like all of BYU's major-conference opponents have lately.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    April 12, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    Way to go Cougars! The pesky long range schedule sure is filling out!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 12, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    UteNationAlum--Just remember. The utes, and buffalos were brought in to pad an extra two wins for the others to become bowl eligible. Extra cash flow with more bowl worthy teams.

    This business decision also effects basketball.

    It's just that simple. BYU is the University of Utah.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 12, 2013 1:41 p.m.

    @utenationalum

    Uh....BYU already played in the fiesta Bowl, 30 years before utah even dreamed of it.

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 12, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    @cowardly robin

    BYU will probably have more fans at the game in Phoenix than az will.

    LOL at your "frantic and emotional" claim though.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 12, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Definitely a home-away-neutral series - BYU has a very large fan base in the Phoenix area. It wouldn't be a bit surprising for BYU to have the majority of fans for the game in Phoenix.

    btw,

    BYU played Oklahoma State in the 1974 Fiesta Bowl, BYU's first ever bowl game.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 12, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    The moment I saw the headline indicating this would be a THREE game series, I KNEW our jealous little brothers would come on here and boast of how this proves Irrelevance, er, I mean Independence, is such a smashing success. I KNEW they'd try to spin 2 games in Arizona as neutral, citing the size of their "large fanbase".

    I also KNOW that there will be a lot more of these types of scheduling arrangements because nobody down there in WACistan dares call out Holmoe for these quasi 2-for-1s. And it IS a 2-for-1. Glendale may not be the Wildcat-haven of Tucson, but it's a LOT more Wildcat than cougar.

    Steven S Jarvis:

    The Fiesta Bowl back in the early 1970s was equivalent to the Poinsettia Bowl of today. It was "small ball" on the grand scale of postseasons. Utenationalum was referring to when the Fiesta was a MAJOR bowl. You haven't been to any major bowls of that scope.

    AZGrandma:

    "BYU played in the Fiesta Bowl in 1974 against Oklahoma."

    Actually, it was Oklahoma STATE. And they were a 6-5 team heading into the game. Weak SOS.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 12, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    The minute I saw that BYU had scheduled another THREE-game series, I KNEW that our jealous little navelet would come on here trying to minimize another hit to his fragile ego.

    BYU played in the 1974 Fiesta Bowl representing the WAC as conference champions, something that our jealous little friend on the hill has a hard time even contemplating since his sorry Utes NEVER played in a single bowl intended for the WAC champions in Utah's 38 years in the conference.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    April 12, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    navelvet

    "BYU played in the Fiesta Bowl in 1974 against Oklahoma.

    Actually, it was Oklahoma STATE. And they were a 6-5 team heading into the game. Weak SOS."

    Remind us again how many bowls the mighty weak Utes played in from 1965 to 1991.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    April 12, 2013 3:06 p.m.

    navelvet

    "Actually, it was Oklahoma STATE. And they were a 6-5 team heading into the game. Weak SOS."

    LOL at your misinformed spin.

    BYU's 1974 Fiesta Bowl opponent, Oklahoma State, finished 7-5 in the Big Eight.
    Utah's 2004 Fiesta Bowl opponent, Pittsburgh, finished 8-4 in the Big Least.

    Oklahoma State 1974 would have shredded Pittsburgh 2004.

  • Che26 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 12, 2013 3:08 p.m.

    Navel Vet

    Have you ever been to the Phoenix area? Not only is it chuck full of Mormons; many of which are diehard BYU fans it is also home to a ton of Arizona haters in the form of Arizona State fans.

    All rivalry bias aside this is a pretty great setup by Holmoe and Company. This is not a 2 for 1, but a great home, away, and neutral. BYU will be anything but lacking for support when they play the Wildcats in 2016.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 12, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    Only no bowlers will cheer on a Boston Terrier over a Greyhound, and BYU led the state in both football, and basketball.

    State championships smell good.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    Love the hypocricy of Cougar "fan" now telling us how great a series this will be after doing nothing but bad mouth the PAC 12 for years. For such a miserable conference, BYU sure seems to want to schedule a lot of games with the PAC 12 member schools.

    Typical.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 3:52 p.m.

    2 for 1, now that's desperate.

  • sls Columbia, MO
    April 12, 2013 4:00 p.m.

    Washington and Washington State and Utah all canceled scheduled games with BYU. Funny thing that the cancellations all happened after BYU alums took over as head coach for the respective schools. In recent years, Oregon State and Arizona played out their scheduled games and now Arizona has scheduled 3 more.

    Something tells me that the apple and beehive state schools were afraid to lose to BYU since the HCs recognize that BYU is a BCS-caliber school. They are desperate for some out-of-conference victories to pad the win column.

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    April 12, 2013 5:25 p.m.

    54-IQ

    BYU fans haven't been bad-mouthing the PAC 12, they've been bad-mouthing Utah's bottom dweller status in the PAC 10.2.

    BYU has been scheduling games with PAC schools for decades, long before Utah even thought of being competitive with PAC bottom dwellers.

    LOL!

  • Mesa Coug Phoenix, AZ
    April 12, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    I think it's great. I will at the two games in Arizona. The Glendale game might be closer to Tucson but I would think that attendance will be pretty close to even. There is a huge LDS and BYU alum population in Arizona.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 12, 2013 6:30 p.m.

    Looks like a 1-1-1 to me. The neutral site will likely look a lot like the Oklahoma game a few years back. BYU fans coming out of the woodwork, probably marquee ESPN broadcast.
    .
    No wonder nv and cb are grinding away, popping Tums like candy

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    April 12, 2013 8:23 p.m.

    Gotta love how the little brother trolls crawl out of the woodwork EVERY time BYU announces a new opponent - their obsession with all things BYU is laughable.

    These nationally televised BYU games played in NFL stadiums are becoming commonplace for the Cougars.

  • CougarOnTheProwl Murray, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:50 p.m.

    Nice get for BYU, they have a strong following in AZ and so they will have plenty of fan support at those games in AZ. Looking forward to the series starting in 2016, BYU schedule is shaping up nicely well into the future. In 2016 they already have: @Utah,@Boise State, West Virginia, Arizona and @Cincinnati on the schedule. Independence is good and its good to be a Cougars fan!

    BTW Arizona has no problem scheduling BYU so why does Utah have such an issue with it? Hmm now that is a mistery

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2013 7:47 a.m.

    Arizona will schedule BYU when Utah won't. Chris Hill must be too busy with the swimming and rugby teams. The ute red is green with envy which makes for a nice color scheme at Christmas, but the rest of the year it looks pretty silly.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 13, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    Rockwell:

    "LOL at your misinformed spin...BYU's 1974 Fiesta Bowl opponent, Oklahoma State, finished 7-5 in the Big Eight."

    No. "LOL" at YOUR misinformed spin. I stated it correctly. OSU did in fact enter the Fiesta bowl as a 6-5 team (4-3 in the Big 8).

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 13, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    CougarOnTheProwl:

    "...Arizona has no problem scheduling BYU so why does Utah have such an issue with it? Hmm now that is a mistery [sic]."

    It's no mystery at all. Arizona is getting a 2-for-1 from the Indy-WACers. As soon as our mid-majorey little brother agrees to a 2-for-1 with the Utes, they'll find themselves back on our schedule again. Guaranteed!

  • sls Columbia, MO
    April 14, 2013 6:45 p.m.

    Maybe the mighty Utes from the Pac will schedule a neutral game with BYU in the nearest NFL stadium. Now that would be in Denver where BYU has a significant following and the Colorado fans can also come out to cheer for or against their newest rival. I doubt the Buffalo fans would show up, though, because their program wasn't built on hating BYU.

    As to Ute fans in the mile-high city...there might be two of them, if that.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2013 9:00 a.m.

    sls:

    "As to Ute fans in the mile-high city...there might be two of them, if that."

    What a frantic and emotional thing to say. Losing all those games to your big brother still stings doesn't it. Then if you added in the fact that you'd never qualified to play in (much less win) a BCS bowl (much less 2), the pain must be excruciating. And then that excruciating pain was exasperated by Utah receiving (and accepting) an invite to your first choice of conferences; aka, the one your fanbase had been fantasizing about negotiating -- super secretly of course -- an invitation of your own. That's just the sort of torture that the Geneva Convention forbids.

    Whew! Glad I'm not an Indy-WACer.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 15, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    54 IQ . "For such a miserable conference, BYU sure seems to want to schedule a lot of games with the PAC 12 member schools."

    BYU wanted to schedule yet another miserable PAC team, but it'd rather play Fresno and weaken their SOS. WEAK.
    BYU was forced to upgrade that game to Nebraska. STRONG.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    April 15, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    Re: Frantic and Emotional

    "And then that excruciating pain was exasperated by Utah receiving (and accepting) an invite to your first choice of conferences..."

    I'm pretty sure that Utah has never received an invitation to join the Big 12 (the conference Cougar fans have repeatedly noted as our top alternative to independence). In fact, I believe that after decades as a mid-major Utah was invited to exactly ONE bcs conference. BYU has also been invited to one bcs conference, but they turned down the invite. I would love to see any mention anywhere by a BYU fan that has ever said that we would have taken an invite to the PAC over the Big12.

    Of course, you won't be able to find such a reference, you will instead fixate on the fact BYU was indeed invited to a bcs conference (just like the Utes), but that the Big Least is not as mighty as the PAC 12. I'll save you the trouble... I agree with that point. That's why we have remained independent instead of becoming the doormat to a great conference like the Utes have.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "I'm pretty sure that Utah has never received an invitation to join the Big 12 (the conference Cougar fans have repeatedly noted as our top alternative to independence)."

    Not so little brother. If given a choice, the cougars would have preferred the Pac-12 first and foremost, followed by the Big 12, then Indy-WACness.

    "I believe that after decades as a mid-major Utah was invited to exactly ONE bcs conference."

    That most likely had to do with the fact that if given the choice, Utah would have preferred the Pac-12 to the Big 12. There would be no point in the Big 12 asking Utah to join, because at the time of their expansion, the Pac-12 already had the highest grossing television contract in the entire NCAA, and it was not projected the Big 12 would have topped it. And of course, they didn't.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 15, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    Wiscougarfan:

    "BYU has also been invited to one bcs conference, but they turned down the invite."

    The Big [L]East doesn't count. For starters, they wanted Boise St; not you. They only invited you at the behest of the Broncos. The Big [L]East knew it's AQ status was in jeapardy, and desperately needed BCS busting programs to replace their mass exodus of their best teams...which were largely mediocre to begin with. That's why TCU was invited. Had Utah not been invited to the Pac-12, the would have most likely invited Utah along with TCU, and before Boise St. But the Big [L]East knew it had no shot at Utah.

    It appears to be lost on only cougar fans that the conference that was bullied by BSU into inviting you is the same conference that was being mentioned among "the Big 5". And the Big 5 are those conferences on the outside looking in: The Big [L]East, the MWC, C-USA, the MAC, and the Sun Belt.

    You've been invited to ZERO BCS conferences, and that just eats you up inside.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 16, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    Vet says,
    "You've been invited to ZERO BCS conferences....The Big [L]East doesn't count."

    If there was ever any substance or truth to your posts, it all went out the window with your last post. You talk, with ZERO facts. I went to the BCS website and sure enough, there is the Big East. BYU has been invited to a BCS conference, and as you put it, "that just eats you up inside," because you know it's true and can't even admit it.

    Dick Harmon wrote an article on Nov 21, 2011 stating BYU rejected their offer. CBS sports wrote a similar article on Nov. 27. There is proof BYU rejected the Big East according to journalists.

    Please provide your reference that the Big East is not a BCS conference.

    This ought to be rich.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 16, 2013 12:33 p.m.

    Striker:

    Google "Big East, rest of 'Group of Five' score win with six-bowl decision"

    "The once formidable league, which spent much of the past year being battered to the brink of irrelevance, had to this point struck out in its quest to obtain a guaranteed berth in the sport's new postseason model, forthcoming in 2014. The Big Ten and Pac-12 have the Rose Bowl, the Big 12 and SEC have the Sugar Bowl and the ACC has the Orange Bowl. The Big Ten and SEC even landed spots for their second-best teams, but the Big East, an AQ conference since the BCS' 1998 inception, appeared to be hung out to dry."

    THAT was the conference you were invited to....and ONLY because Boise State mandated you be given an invitation. The conference that "appeared to be hung out to dry," per Stuart Mandell at Sports Illustrated, last Nov. 12th.

    P.S.: That article also said, "Independents like BYU are not considered part of the Group of Five and thus are not guaranteed access." Still on the outside looking in, only THIS time you're "looking in" at the teams from the MWC. Haha!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    April 16, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    nv,
    That was poor. Tell me where in that response does it say the Big East is not in the BCS. Didn't see it in your response. Is it so hard to answer that question?

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 17, 2013 12:45 p.m.

    Striker:

    So you want to split hairs over whether the Big East is currently contracted under the BCS, but ignore the part that the only reason the Y was invited was because Boise St. - not the Big East - them...as a travel partner? Typical hypocritical coug.

    That article I cited clearly referenced the Big East as a, "Group of Five" league, and THAT league is on the same tier as the MWC, C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt. Everybody KNEW the Big East would be demoted to "mid-major" status, even BEFORE the playoff scenerio was approved. And THAT's the Big East to which Utah's little brother was invited. Note:

    The Big East had finished behind the MWC every year under the last evaluation period (2008-2011) and again in 2012. Had the BCS system not been scheduled to conclude after this season, the Big East would have been kicked out. In short, the Big East to which you'd been invited was inferior to the MWC you already left.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 17, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    Striker (cont.):

    The very same conference who invited you (at the behest of Boise St.) to join the Big East was the very same conference that also invited East Carolina, Tulane, and Memphis. How mid-majorey, dontcha think?

    So I stand by original point. The Big [L]East DOESN'T count. They are just as mid-majorey as you. Case closed.