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  • Cool Cat Cosmo Payson, UT
    April 11, 2013 9:36 p.m.

    It's certainly disturbing that those who claim to always seek out the truth avoid talking about the truth when it doesn't coincide with their political views.

    Yet isn't it interesting that since the Sandy Hook shooting, the media can't seem to get enough of any story involving a gun...? Political bias at its worst...people (on both sides of the political spectrum) are more and more living only in the reality that they want for themselves, while ignoring anything to the contrary.

    This glaring example of that certainly isn't going to help us as a nation come to any sort of reasonable consensus on these divisive issues. One has to wonder how much more divisiveness our nation can withstand before it is literally split apart.

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    April 11, 2013 10:01 p.m.

    We live in a time of great wickedness. This week alone we read about 2 fathers who murdered their babies. Now, we learn of a "Dr." who murdered hundreds of babies. Certainly we cannot argue that this is depraved and a representation of how truly evil our world is becoming. Yes, this has happened in China (killing of babies) for many generations, and genocides have taken place in many places over the past centuries, but it has not been the norm in America and we ought to do all we can to protect the innocent and try to reclaim our nation.

  • Oatmeal Woods Cross, UT
    April 11, 2013 10:08 p.m.

    @Cool Cat Cosmo:

    I believe that in this post-modern era, the truth has become so prone to interpretation, that our cultural elites have decided to interpret it the way that they want to. Hence, Harry Potter is as relevant as the Bible, and the latest movie is as accurate as the evening news.

  • Dalyn Philadelphia, PA
    April 12, 2013 2:15 a.m.

    I live in Philadelphia. Our newspaper, which is as left leaning liberal as they come, has had this on the front page multiple times. The trial just started but the arrest was almost a year ago. We have had almost a year of coverage of this story.

    All of this complaining about lack of coverage is simply not true. This case is not politics or right vs. left, it is a grotesque crime. Are we to complain when national press fails to report every local crime a year after it happens? Because if that is the case the Deseret News has failed to report about 300 shootings in Philadelphia from last year as well.

  • Albert Maslar CPA (Retired) Absecon, NJ
    April 12, 2013 7:11 a.m.

    A society is judged by how it protects the most vulnerable, those unable to protect themselves, In the case of abortion on demand magnified by abortion just before or just after the baby is born, America has been found wanting. Who speaks for the smallest who cannot defend themselves? Defense of Dr. Gosnell actually had the audacity to admit that the baby that was living is now dead as a result of procedures beneath human dignity. Jesus said, "Whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me." That should be a frightening thought for perpetrators who proudly admit to their horrendous deeds.

  • chilly Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 7:25 a.m.

    Dalyn,
    With all due respect, the Philadelphia newspapers have provided the ONLY significant coverage of this mass murder. The reason it has not been carried on any of the major TV networks is because it conflicts with their political positions on the "choice" issue. They are not doing their jobs!

  • AreaReader Suburbs, AZ
    April 12, 2013 7:33 a.m.

    Having some connections to the Philadelphia area, I have been exposed to regular and extensive coverage of the very disturbing trial.

    If the Deseret News hasn't covered the story, that's the Deseret News's problem, and there's no reason to paint your lack of coverage as a sinister cover-up by the "liberal media."

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    All media are business operations, owned and operated by businessmen for business purposes.

    Not one word about a murder trial for food processors who kill people by not following regulations.

    Will the owner operators of the bad medicine be charged in the multiple deaths of people?

    How about the people who die accidentally in medical procedures in hospitals.

    How about the people and children who die because of the lack of health care.

    Of all the murders committed in our society, the least cruel is probably the abortion of life at conception through birth.

  • Arizona1 Tucson, AZ
    April 12, 2013 8:29 a.m.

    For those of you who follow local Philadelphia media outlets congratulations, but this article points out a glaring problem in the national media. When national media covers idol contestants, a divorced parents who kidnapped his/her child, Starbucks prices, and celebrity fashion ad nauseum, is it too much to ask for them to report something like the Philadelphia case in an objective manner? I'd completely forgotten about the case even though I read national media every day.
    What is the media saying if they decide not to report on something of real national importance, replacing it instead with an article about Britney Spears' clothes or lack thereof?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 12, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    So why didn't DN write an article about the trial?

    Instead, it writes about a media conspiracy theory about the trial.

    DN takes its talking points from the radical right. Everything is a conspiracy, a cover-up, a "war" against. It is sad more and more DN resembles a tabloid than a serious high quality newspaper.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    The power of the press is about as strong as the power of the gun relating to the Constitution of the United States of America. Journalism and Journalists used to have integrity and honesty, overall, with some on the sideline that practiced yellow journalism. The need for 24-hour news has probably made it so just the numbers of reporters and not journalists have watered down the process. The quality control of news agencies and publishers has probably also gone down with the number of papers have been bought out by the big guys and not just in the United States of America.

    It comes down to agendas of the people that bought the papers and airwave and Internet papers out. The sources are not always verified and it has become a Hollywood way of sensationalism that is impacting on morality of the issues. Moral issues have existed since the world has existed. People have choices to make, good or bad. However, the press and news rooms are making items that used to be good, bad and bad items look good.

    We accept as a people more infiltration of images, messages and thoughts that don't improve our lives for good.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    April 12, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    It's great when you can get coverage and outrage to support your cause, eh?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 12, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    @Hutterite. What is amazing is that this seems to be acceptable to you and others.

  • ALH Enumclaw, WA
    April 12, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    Even a nationally recognized and respected columnist for the liberal Washington Post sees a problem here: "Krauthammer: Media Ignoring Gosnell Trial Because It Puts Abortion Issue ‘Starkly Into Relief.'" Although it may have been well-covered locally,such a sad case in a nationally-debated issue would usually attract national attention. That it hasn't speaks volumes about media bias.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    April 12, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    Well done by the Deseret News. This is a horrifying story and symptomatic of the malaise in our society. With Hannibal Lector now "staking" his claim to prime time coverage, the proliferation of money making violence is astounding and tearing our society apart by targeting the young and impressionable.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    April 12, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    The simple reason for not having any national coverage on this horrible crime is, this case, because it is about the evils of abortion does not fit with the mainstream media's morals and beliefs. They support abortion for any reason and for them to report on this would make them look bad.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    April 12, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    By the way, this "Doctor" very much deserves the death penalty. Don't know if PA has it, but he very much deserves it.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    Dalyn
    Truthseeker
    AreaReader
    Outside of Philadelphia the only coverage you would see on this story in the last few weeks is on conservative or pro-life websites - NOT in the mainstream media - despite the horrific implications of the story.
    There are lies – then there are lies by omission. The MSM can cover its rear easier by ignoring inconvenient facts than it can by overtly lying about them (I.e. NBC lying in the case of George Zimmerman came back to humiliate the network)
    It is sad indictment when the blatant lack of coverage about a crime becomes as newsworthy as the horror of the crime

    Ultra Bob
    Your rationalization of after birth murder is precisely why I am repelled by the hard left

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    April 12, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    Ultra Bob, try as you might, trying to get everyone to turn their head in another direction is sickening. Ultra Bob, you made it through the sieve that has killed 55 million innocent children the last 40 years. Be grateful you weren't one of them tossed in a corner garbage can. I teach school and even middle schoolers are beginning to see the hypocrisy of the abortion on demand mentality that seeks to excuse those who were irresponsible to begin with and then compound that irresponsibility by aborting what they chose to start! How sad for them and you. Children are a blessing, a gift from God. Hope in society is tied to how we treat babies. Their voices will be heard, if not now, someday.

  • RepresentBlue West Jordan, UT
    April 12, 2013 10:40 a.m.

    @Ultra Bob

    "Of all the murders committed in our society, the least cruel is probably the abortion of life at conception through birth."

    The least cruel? Are not all murders cruel? How do you judge one to be "less cruel" than another? And are you conceding that abortion is, in fact, a form of murder?

    I find this comment to be extremely disturbing, but, sadly, exactly what I have come to expect from the godless left.

  • rnoble Pendleton, OR
    April 12, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    I have always said babies are consequences not choices. We live in a society that encourages the mitigation of consequences, hence baby killing on demand. We have accepted that simple inconvenience of an unplanned baby is equal to the result of rape or incest. The former deserves no mitigating action while the latter clearly does. I am pro choice; choose to abstain from sexual activity if you don't want the consequence of the baby or STI. Or, put another way, if you are not willing to subjugate yourself for and in behalf of a new life, then choose to subjugate that passion and desire for the fleeting pleasure that could result in new life. And don't kid yourself that raising a child really doesn't need to affect the rest of your life. Raising children done properly requires a high degree of unselfish thinking and action.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 12, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    Re:CounterIntell

    A quick search revealed articles in March in The New York Times, USAToday, and NBC . Were there articles in the Deseret News regarding this case before today? Yeah, a vast conspiracy!

    Re:ALH

    The "liberal" Washington Post, regularly carries editorials and op-eds from the right and the left--unlike ("politically neutral") Deseret News.

    Whether Krauthammer is "respected" is a matter of debate.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    April 12, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    I haven't seen a thing in the DNews about this. Aren't you the media? Aren't you supposed to bring this sort of thing to our attention? Or is the DNews, as I suspect, just a conduit for the wire services? This is a horrific story covered intensely on the East Coast, as I understand. Aren't you paying attention?

  • KinCO Fort Collins, CO
    April 12, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    There was a story on this trial--a lengthy one at that--on NPR in the last week or so. I remember a couple of stories on NPR before that as well--especially when the story first broke. I'm guessing most people in UT would classify NPR a a liberal media outlet (probably without even listening to it, but that's another subject), but it did report this story. I can't speak to TV news as I never watch it.

    But yes, news stories are chosen and reported by human beings who obviously have opinions, and of course stories that support the agendas of one particular point of view or other will be emphasized by different news outlets. This is why you get a different slant on things from Fox than you do from the NY Times. Different people, different opinions, different audiences--and anyone who EXPECTS news to be unbiased is just silly. That's why it is important to read/listen across the political spectrum--otherwise you just have people telling you what you want to hear, which is the road to . . . well, our current political stalemate.

  • Brown Honeyvale, CA
    April 12, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    Dalyn -- The point of the article was that the National media hasn't done enough to cover this vigilante doctor. I would hope Philly is covering it!

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 12, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    How many stories has the Deseret News written on this subject "that should be on every front page" to date? Zero by my count. Are you not condemning yourselves (or at least calling yourselves out) in this piece? This article seems a wee bit hypocritical to me. At a minimum, I'll be expecting to see one article, sparing no gory details, on this trial per day on the front page of the DN from now on.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    April 12, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    Ultrabob

    "Of all the murders committed in our society, the least cruel is probably the abortion of life at conception through birth."

    What a sick comment. We won't even let people commit suicide and yet we take it upon ourselves to decide who deserves a life and who doesn't. Abortion just serves as a statement of how selfish people are even if the life of the woman is in jeporady because if they were right with God, they wouldn't fear death. Thats just my opinion.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    @Flashback
    "The simple reason for not having any national coverage on this horrible crime is, this case, because it is about the evils of abortion does not fit with the mainstream media's morals and beliefs. They support abortion for any reason and for them to report on this would make them look bad."

    This wasn't abortion, this was murder and even under pro-choice advocate policy this would still be illegal. You're doing the equivalent of saying gun owners support school shootings.

  • AreaReader Suburbs, AZ
    April 12, 2013 11:57 a.m.

    Thanks, KinCO.

    NPR covered this case in 2010, a number of times in 2011, and has been covering it continually since the trial started.

    The Huffington Post has been writing about this story regularly since it broke in 2010. So has the New York Times.

    I can't get the NBC website search function to work to see how they've covered the story; the stories that show up are the most recent ones covering the trial, and nothing further back. That doesn't mean they didn't cover it; just that the website isn't working.

    Looks like what's missing isn't coverage by the liberal news media but outrage by the conservative news media. And there should be outrage. Lots of outrage, by everyone on every side of the political spectrum, directed toward the doctor and the failed medical regulatory system.

    So how's regulation in your own state? Are there things like this going on where you live? Since abortion is legal, is it sufficiently regulated? How about hospital infections? Are the hospitals and clinics in your state squeaky clean and providing adequate and humane medical care for even the poorest and sickest in our midst?

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    April 12, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Lets recap this into small bitsize pieces that everybody can easily understand.

    The Sandy Hook killer murdered 26 people and gets several months of media attenetion.

    This Dr. murdered 1000 babies per year and gets little to no attention from the media.

    Can anybody make an argument logically why the media would have such a double standard, outside of the media pushing an adgenda that allows for killing babies that survived botched abortions?

  • Jared Average, SE
    April 12, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    Truthseeker

    The DN is covering now but the DN is a local news agency focused first on Utah news (including sports), second on LDS Church news, third on national news, and fourth on world news. This article is about national news outlets not covering the story (local news in that area is saturated with it). This is in huge distinction with other "local" stories receiving unceasing national coverage (e.g., mass shootings).

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    April 12, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    Our national leaders are working hard to pass legislation - feel good legislation - that many experts agree will not do anything to avert a future Sandy Hook abomination. Our society likes to talk about issues, but has little interest in truly curbing violence; especially against our most vulnerable group, our children.

    What happened in Philadelphia is what some have come to term an Inconvenient Truth. Actually, it was more than merely criminal and the fact that the leading media groups in this country have all but ignored it is further evidence that we can no longer rely upon traditional media sources to keep us informed.

    I am curious to see the outcry in this country over this tragedy. Do you suppose the president will fly relatives of the victims up to Washington on Air Force One to pressure legislators into outlawing partial birth abortions? Me either.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 12, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    @Redshirt#1701
    I mostly agree with you. But according to the World Health Organization, undernutrition is a contributory factor in the death of 2.6 million children every year and undernourishment currently affects about 925 million people, or about 13.5% of the world population. So, according to your logic, unless there are about a million stories about undernutrition for every one Sandy Hook story, the media appears to have a double standard that pushes an agenda that allows starvation.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 12, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    @Jared

    Your post is wrong on all counts:

    First, you said "The DN is covering now" but the DN hasn't reported one single gory detail that should be on the front page of every newspaper. The DN has only written a (hypocritical) story about the media coverage, not about the case.

    Second, the DN is not a local news agency. The DN, while based in SLC, enjoys global readership on its website. If what you are saying is true, the DN should eliminate its section entitled "World & Nation". But they do have that section and they ignored a story and then called down the rest of the world for ignoring the story that they themselves have been ignoring.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    April 12, 2013 2:11 p.m.

    re:Jared

    #1 Deseret News still didn't write an article about the murders, it wrote an article about the media not covering it.

    #2 What constitutes "national media" sources? Wall Street Journal? No articles there.

    This story was reported by media sources in 2011 when it first came to light. But you might not know about it if your primary sources of news is Deseret News. I think one factor affecting coverage is due to the population the clinic served--the poor. It is a horrific case and if convicted the "Dr." faces the death penalty.

    Re;1aggie

    There are no starving people or children--just lazy people waiting for handouts, people who won't take responsibility for themselves.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    April 12, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    To "1aggie" your comment is quite off topic and is a distraction from the obvious adgenda from the national media.

    Name the person who is responsible for undernourishment, and expose them. Until then you are talking about something totally different. In many of the countries where the undernourishment is occuring we do see more headlines about the strife afflicting them than we have seen about this Doctor.

    This is murder of innocent children. Undernutrition is a problem, but it is not an act of murder, it is more of a symptom of corruption. Much of the undernourishment is due more to internal politics of the countries where it is occuring.

  • Spikey Layton, UT
    April 12, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    Actually, there WAS coverage back in 2011 on NPR and an affiliate of CBS...and some other news organization I actually haven't heard of. So I can't agree with this 100% but for the most part...

    I think what Gordon B. Hinckley stated at my Graduation from Weber State back in 1999 says it all. "There is little regard for the sanctity of life." (Not an exact quote).

    And for that lack of regard, we turn a blind eye, our society turns a blind eye. Babies are no more than puppies nowadays. No, wait, puppies might just be treated better. My pup just came back from physical therapy where he gets treated better than I do. Can't say that about many of the innocent in this country. :(

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 12, 2013 3:45 p.m.

    @Redshirt

    The "obvious agenda from the national media" is in your head and just because a crime hasn't a single perpetrator doesn't mean it's not a crime. We are all responsible in my opinion; we should expect more from our government in fighting corruption that prevents resources from getting where they're needed. We should expect more from our churches who merely pay lip service to the poor and needy while building large business empires. We should expect more from our media (including the DN) who cover the sexy issues but largely ignore malnourishment and hunger. And obviously we, who are commanded to give to the poor and needy, should expect more from ourselves.

    You yourself raised this issue by commenting the number of stories about this versus Sandyhook. So if we are off-topic, it is you who took us there.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 12, 2013 6:17 p.m.

    Counter Intelligence.
    banderson.
    Anti Bush-Obama

    I don’t like the killing of anybody but I cannot prevent such from happening. I do not think I could kill anybody except if my life or my kin was in immediate peril. I even hurt a little inside at the killing of animals. But I love a good steak and served time in the military.

    God made the world the way it is and there is no way that human beings can thwart the plans.

    As civilized human beings, we try to place attention and efforts on things that make life better. We often fail in that when we put the wrong emphasis on the killing of other human beings. We are sickened by the killing of a unborn child but make heroes of those who kill for profit. When a unborn child dies with out ever experiencing life, it is sad but not of great consequence to the world. When a living child or even an adult is killed the effect of that person’s loss is more.

    I think that when people go so far away from the true nature of life, they do so with ulterior motives.

  • Floyd Johnson Broken Arrow, OK
    April 12, 2013 8:24 p.m.

    I am not sure what the word "snipped" means. Were the spinal cords cut with scissors? Were the infants jugular veins severed? Were the necks twisted until the spine fractured? I guess it does not matter, it just seemed to be a strange explanation of the procedure.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    A doctor whose abortion clinic was a filthy, foul-smelling "house of horrors" that was overlooked by regulators for years was charged Wednesday with murder, accused of delivering seven babies alive and then using scissors to kill them.-House of horrors' alleged at abortion clinic
    msnbc staff and news service

    That's from NBC

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A jury weighing murder charges against a Philadelphia abortion provider heard grim testimony about unorthodox procedures used on inner-city clinic patients.

    That's from NPR

    In opening statements in court on Monday, prosecutors charged that a doctor who operated a women’s health clinic here killed seven viable fetuses by plunging scissors into their necks and “snipping” their spinal cords

    That's from NY Times

    There are plenty more examples of mainstream media coverage of this story also. Those are just three from what the right consider the extreme left.

    I could also give plenty of examples of stories that the Right Wing main stream media choose to ignore.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2013 11:41 p.m.

    "Abortion just serves as a statement of how selfish people are even if the life of the woman is in jeporady because if they were right with God, they wouldn't fear death."

    Talk about sick comments.

    Floyd, snipped means the spinal cord was cut.

    How did I know that? Read about it in the Main Stream Media that apparently is not covering this story. .

  • Mandy Moo Parkend, 00
    April 13, 2013 6:44 a.m.

    Does it really matter which way a newspaper leans. The fact of the matter is that abortion is wrong. Late abortion is even more wrong. These babies are murdered and thats the truth. Yet people dont like to face the truth and thats why these facts are covered up. I am glad that finally, these indescribably barbaric acts have been brought to light and whether people like it or not, they now have to face it. I am glad that someone has had the nerve to stand up to defend these unwanted and unloved children; yes they are children. Call them a fetus if you like but each one of them is a child and as such shold have the law on thier side, but they dont because nobody wanted them. I say, hats off to those with the guts to cover these stories. Its about time everyone knew the truth behind these clinics.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    April 13, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    i've said it, unfortunately, a number of times in comments regarding stories in the DNews about crimes against children, who are all obviously innocent.

    They are the most heinous of all crimes that can be commited, period.

    How a "professional" or anyone else, can live with himself and do what he has allegedly done (he's innocent until proven guilty, of course) is beyond the human mind to comprehend.

  • What is the truth? Sandy, UT
    April 13, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    Yep, the terrible liberal media JUST ignoring the whole trial... OH but wait... CNN has it on the front webpage... They must been have shamed them into. But really my point is, be it left or right, enough with the hyperbole, hysteria and paranoia. It really feels like I'm reading a junior high school novel. All drama and no sustenance.

  • DGDENTON Gainesville, TX
    April 13, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    If Deseret News had not printed this horrible story, most of the nation would not know about it. How many of these type of stories have been covered up? I bet a lot. The pro-abortion lobby is very powerful.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2013 12:25 a.m.

    "If Deseret News had not printed this horrible story, most of the nation would not know about it."

    The nation knows about this only because the D News printed this story? My gosh, at first I thought you were being sarcastic, but you're not, are you?

    What is going on in Texas?

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    April 16, 2013 3:57 p.m.

    In a related article, Irin Carmon of Salon magazine claims this is an “illustration of the need for faster, safer and more readily available abortion.” Also, “she also argues for public funding of abortion.”

    It is tragic that this view is being promoted as “normal” by the movers and shakers of America. Abortion is NOT normal and should not be treated as just another casual activity of day-to-day life. Some people just refuse to take responsibility for their actions. If I callously took a life with no justification, I would be held responsible for it, not anybody else. The same should go for those who would give a life without regard to the associated consequences.

    Abortion on demand was one of the primary reasons the twin cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. We stand at a similar brink. Though I believe that it will be the way of the world to push us over, it is worth the fight to keep it from happening for as long we can still distinguish right from wrong. We need to continue to protect those who can not protect themselves.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    April 16, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Ultra Bob, I was right with you in your second comment up until you said “When a unborn child dies with out ever experiencing life, it is sad but not of great consequence to the world.”

    Just who do you think you are to decide what impact a life may have in the future? The greatest moments in the history of the world – both good and evil - were all the result of nondescript unborn children who made it past the birth phase and grew into someone who profoundly influenced the course of history around them.

    To say that the unborn are of no particular consequence to the world is to deny the very purpose of life.