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  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 16, 2013 12:31 a.m.

    "Postseason could be a possibility for Utes"

    You're always good for a laugh Mike, but you're allowing your Utah homerism to cloud your vision of reality.

  • GoRed WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    March 16, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    @snack pac

    What does Utah's post season possibilities matter to an anti-Ute like yourself? Why not follow your own team and their own post season options?

    *silence*

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    March 16, 2013 11:44 a.m.

    I'm not crossing my fingers...actually that is exactly what I am doing.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    March 16, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    I say let's call it a day and go home. The program is headed in the right direction, but we don't have anything left to prove this year.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 16, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    I've heard some pretty strong rumors that the Utes are going to take a CBI invite. I'd rather they didn't, there's much more respect and momentum to lose than to gain from it. But if we do and host a game or two, I'll be there, but it just won't be the same as the regular season. We'll see what happens.

  • Clark W. Griswold Sandy, Utah
    March 16, 2013 4:51 p.m.

    "Postseason could be a possibility for Utes"

    And Cougie Nation goes into a panic!

    Great Pac-12 tournament run Utes! You represented the state well. I'm looking forward to next year.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    March 16, 2013 6:29 p.m.

    gored

    It would be another Ute 'moral victory' if the invite happens.

    And by the way... you've never been on a BYU story. LOL

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 16, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    clarky

    Cougar Nation "panicked" about the Utes possibly getting an invite to the church basketball invitational?

    More like amused.

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    March 16, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    In all actuality Utah will probably make a post season tournament. There are four not three. After the NCAA and the NIT, there is the CBI and the CIT. I would not be surprised at all to see Utah in one of them. They are playing very well right now.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2013 9:24 p.m.

    So if the NIT bis the consolation prize what the heck is the CIB? A tourney for losers?The Utes should turn it down so they don't lay an egg. They should end on a high note and call it a season. Next year will be a train wreck with their seniors leaving.

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    March 16, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    Wow. I would love to see Utah and BYU meet for the CBI championship game. That would be a story!

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    March 16, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    "The 16-team CBI has a history of taking teams with losing records from the Pac-12 Conference."

    Has Utah basketball really sunk so far that the preceding line is good news?

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2013 12:23 a.m.

    @ EdGrady

    Yes. Utah hit its lowest point in history last year, so getting into any post season tournament this year is considered a success. Plus it gives the underclassmen more practice time and more experience in a tournament setting.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 17, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    To think, 2 short seasons ago, this is what this season's PAC-12 Tourney Champ UO was busy accomplishing [in The CBI]--

    "In 2011, it was Oregon’s turn, being invited with a 16-17 record and going on to win the whole thing, beating Creighton in the finals."

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 17, 2013 7:18 a.m.

    Interesting, how differently the directions were, which UTAH-byu went in following their mtg months ago, w/byu's SOS virtually twice UTAH's, to boot....UTAH clearly trended-up, while byu clearly trended-down, culminated by USD x 2 & USF 99 at home....Truly odd to see byu fans on here w/their vitriol.

    Fun fact--

    UTAH had 4 victories over the RPI Top-53....byu had zero....Montana ended up being byu's best win, RPI-wise, although Montana did end up playing against the #257 ranked SOS.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 17, 2013 10:01 a.m.

    Why engage the byU trollers one-on-one? Truth and logic means nothing to them. It doesn't matter what good Utah does, they will always be stalking the stories to spread their anti-Utah diatribe!

    The facts are clear, simple and indisputable: Utah exceeded expectations this year and gave all Ute fans something good to cheer for. An invite to any tournament, especially playing in the PAC-12, is a major accomplishment, but for this year only.

    byU totally underwhelmed and left their fans flat. Not playing in the NCAA is a huge let down, especially playing in the weak (except Gonzaga only) wcc.

    Go Utes! Go Coach K and all the staff!

  • Clark W. Griswold Sandy, Utah
    March 17, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    @ Down under

    "So if the NIT bis the consolation prize what the heck is the CIB? A tourney for losers?The Utes should turn it down so they don't lay an egg. They should end on a high note and call it a season. Next year will be a train wreck with their seniors leaving".

    Let's clear one thing up! Any tournament that is NOT the NCAA tournament is a consolation prize. Sorry Cougs! The NIT is not that great or prestigious of a tournament anymore. The CBI tournament is not that great either. BYU flopped this year! Utah exceeded expectations this year.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    March 17, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    AZUTE1

    Unfortunately for U, seasons are evaluated in their entirety, not by a brief 4-game spurt at the end.

    Bottom line:

    #65 BYU(21-11) - 8th straight 20+ win season - NIT bound (in a rebuilding season)
    #152 Utah(15-18) - 6th losing season in the last 8 - couch potato bound (always rebuilding)

    -------

    VegasUte

    The best of the WCC, Gonzaga, is ranked #1 and will be a #1 seed.
    The best of the PAC, Oregon, isn't ranked and will get a #9 seed.

    A disappointing season for BYU was still vastly better than all but one season for the Utes in the last 8 years - and let's not forget, we still own U!

    149 to 145 overall, 7 in a row, 11 of the last 12

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    March 17, 2013 11:42 a.m.

    AZUte1

    Despite your clueless greater-success-against-a-stronger-SOS diatribe, U only had a pathetic 13 wins versus D-1 opponents, and five of your losses came against RPI 150+ teams:

    #180 Ore St
    #192 Wash St
    #218 SMU
    #238 CS Northridge
    #282 Sac St

    U did have a nice little 4-game spurt to end the season, but overall, U were by far the worst team in the state of Utah.

    #65 BYU(21-11)
    #92 Weber St(26-6)
    #108 Utah St(21-10)
    #152 Utah(15-18)

    BYU swept its in-state opponents; Utah was winless against in-state foes.

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 17, 2013 12:04 p.m.

    Clark

    "Let's clear one thing up! Any tournament that is NOT the NCAA tournament is a consolation prize."

    True, but your vain attempt to place all post season tournaments besides the NCAA at the same level is laughable.

    There is a very definite pecking order in post season tournaments. Regular season conference champions that lose in their conference tournament are GUARANTEED an NIT bid, if they don't get an at-large bid to the NCAA.

    NCAA > NIT > CBI > CIT

    If the Utes are invited to the CBI, it will be because they aren't good enough to be invited to the NCAA or the NIT.

    And, let's not forget that the NCAA doesn't include all of the Top 68 teams, so the NIT includes many teams like Kentucky, but would never include a team as bad as Utah.

  • Clark W. Griswold Sandy, Utah
    March 17, 2013 1:29 p.m.

    @ phantomblade

    "True, but your vain attempt to place all post season tournaments besides the NCAA at the same level is laughable".

    What's laughable is your desperate attempt to justify BYU's epic flop of a season and failure to reach the NCAA tournament. You can rank all the post season tournaments all you want! But the fact remains the NIT, CBI, and CIT are all consolation prizes for teams that don't go to the Big Dance. I rest my case!

    As for Utah, they exceeded expectations this year and playing in the CBI is great reward for the seniors to end their basketball careers. I'm happy that Coach K. has the team heading in the right direction.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    March 17, 2013 2:07 p.m.

    If the Utes get an invite to any post-season tournament, congratulations. They will have earned it by playing their bets basketball at the end of the season. Recent history goes a long way in getting selected for any of these tournies.

    However, the idea that ANY team can get an invite to a post-season tournament with a losing record is laughable. If you can't win at least half your games, you should be going home.

    And don't take that as a knock on the Utes. It's not. It's a knock on the money-driven entities that run these tournaments.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    March 17, 2013 2:33 p.m.

    Why would BYU accept a post season invite? They clearly showed not heart in the WCC tournament. It would be a wasted pick for the NIT.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    March 17, 2013 4:03 p.m.

    And still the little kitties flock to Utah stories to try to make themselves feel better. They should be glad they lost to the hapless Toreros - because if by fluke they had gone to the NCAA tourney, they would have just added to their record of most appearances without a final four!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    March 17, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Yes Clark, you are right. An invite to any tournament by the Utes is a 'moral victory'.

    You're absolutely correct. Congratulations.

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 17, 2013 5:39 p.m.

    clarky

    BYU doesn't need to "justify" anything; an "epic flop" for BYU (at least according to you), would be an unbelievable achievement for that train wreck on the hill.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    March 18, 2013 8:33 a.m.

    upinthenight

    "Why would BYU accept a post season invite?"

    Because, unlike our jealous little brothers on the hill, BYU earned a post season invite.

  • PACute_ Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 18, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    From the "Awful Announcing" blog

    TOP 10 BILL WALTON QUOTES FROM THE PAC 12 TOURNAMENT

    8) "Fans beyond description! Dancing angels of mercy! What more can you ask for?"

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 18, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    It looks like I may be one of the only Utah fans glad that they did not accept a CBI invitation. Like I said before, I don't think there's much to gain from winning any games in it, while losing in it just makes the season even a little bit more frustrating. Yes, I know the cited teams' progress after their successes in the CBI, but I see that more a result of the offseason changes made than momentum from a bad postseason tournament.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 18, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    "It looks like I may be one of the only Utah fans glad that they did not accept a CBI invitation."

    Nice try, but don't kid yourself - the ONLY reason the Utes didn't accept an invitation to the CBI is because the Utes didn't get an invitation.

    Three PAC 12 teams - Oregon State, Oregon and Washington State - have played in the best of three final series in three of the last four years, with Oregon State(2009) and Oregon(2011) winning the title.

    But according to your delusional spin, such a mediocre competition is "beneath" the mighty weak Utes, since they're sooooo superior to those other PAC 12 bottom dwellers.

    Get over your misguided arrogance already!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 18, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    Deep Blue, nice try, but I know a lot more about the athletic department at the U than you do, and have very credible sources that say otherwise. And I didn't say it was because the competition was "beneath" Utah. The University of Utah's staff is hosting the rounds of 64 and 32 at ESA this week, and the women are expected an NIT berth with a possibility for a home game, so hosting would not have worked out very well, and they preferred not to travel to a hole in the wall school. Get over your own misguided hatred, please.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 18, 2013 12:54 p.m.

    Deep Blue, nice try, but I know a lot more about the athletic department at the U than you do, and have very credible sources that say otherwise. And I didn't say it was because the competition was "beneath" Utah. The University of Utah's staff is hosting the rounds of 64 and 32 at ESA this week, and the women are expected an NIT berth with a possibility for a home game, so hosting would not have worked out very well, and they preferred not to travel to a hole in the wall school. Get over your own misguided hatred, please.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    March 18, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    "The University of Utah's staff is hosting the rounds of 64 and 32 at ESA this week, and the women are expected an NIT berth with a possibility for a home game, so hosting would not have worked out very well..."

    You really expect us to believe that the Utes passed on hosting a CBI game for the men, in order to host an NIT game for the women???

    The more likely scenario is, IF the Utes were invited to the CBI, it was as a lower seed with an opening round game on the road, and the Utes were simply too chicken to take a chance on embarrassing themselves by losing to a team like Sac St.

    LOL!

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    March 18, 2013 1:33 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    "The University of Utah's staff is hosting the rounds of 64 and 32 at ESA this week, and the women are expected an NIT berth with a possibility for a home game, so hosting would not have worked out very well, and they preferred not to travel to a hole in the wall school."

    Translation: The Utes were invited to the CBI as a lower seed and were told that their first game would be on the road at "a hole in the wall school" named Kentucky! - Dr. Hill was overheard choking and gasping for air and then citing a litany of excuses why the Utes couldn't make it.

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    March 18, 2013 3:03 p.m.

    talkinsports

    Kentucky is in the NIT, but the unnamed school that the Utes refused to travel to could have been, gasp, Wyoming!

  • kosimov Riverdale, UT
    March 18, 2013 5:48 p.m.

    For the many children here who seem unable to control themselves when writing about traditional rivals: please use private messaging or something other than this site. I come to read the comments because, in some other cases, some of the posters are knowledgeable, and they expand my understanding of the game, the teams, etc. In the case of the BYU and Utah posts, however, much of the posting is done either to spin one team's loss into some sort of victory, or more often, to use ANY and EVERY opportunity to say mean and hateful things about each other. This probably comes from the current trend in sports to worship a game winner and condemn a game loser as though the loser was incompetent. In other societies in history, from the Greeks and Romans on, the "losing" team was honored as well as the victor, because the meaning of a victory is established by the skill and talent of the team that is beaten, NOT by the winning team. To beat a worthless team is no honor, but to beat a great team shows how good your team is. Please, keep that in mind!

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 18, 2013 6:29 p.m.

    "The more likely scenario is, IF the Utes were invited to the CBI, it was as a lower seed..."

    "Translation: The Utes were invited to the CBI as a lower seed..."

    Learn how the CBI's "seeding" works and get back to me. Regardless, you'll obviously believe what you wish to, so there is no need for me to lead the horse that won't drink to water.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 18, 2013 7:34 p.m.

    StGtoSLC

    Seems like a team gushing with PAC 12 $$$ should be able to afford a home game tomorrow night, especially since the idea that it would interfere with a possible women's NIT game is ludicrous; the brackets for the women's NIT won't even be announced until later this evening and play doesn't begin until March 20th.

    Bottom line, the Utes won't be playing in a post season tournament, as usual.

    It is curious, however, that Utah has remained mum about supposedly turning down a CBI invite.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    March 18, 2013 8:19 p.m.

    I'll be the first to say that I was misinformed and stand corrected, as per the new report.