Any committee with the proposed entities representing the groups listed is a
flawed mix of people in special interest groups. None of these represent the tax
payer.An independant committee made up of common citizens with the power
to bring in out side experts to assist in dealing with the problems has a much
better chance at success. There is an opportunity to do something good and
do it right, but as it looks to me there are just too many eager wolves waiting
to prey on the poor Utah taxpayer again!
They should build the new prison way out in the desert or on one of the islands
in the great salt lake then no developer will ever want it, keep it far from
I'd say anyone who in the future might be in position to benefit from
something on that land would be in a conflict of interest. Just reading the
story, it seems that isn't happening. The thing I like about
the current location is that it is central to those who work as volunteers.
I'm wondering if we might have more volunteers than most prisons, and that
gives us a benefit prisons don't have. Rehabilitation is as important as
punishment, and having volunteers come in and mingle with the prisoners is a big
plus in rehabilitating them, to me.Maybe, as much commercial value
as the property has, we should give some thought to what the best site is for
bringing in resources to rehabilitate the prisoner.
Sen Jenkins, has nailed it! Everybody wants a piece. Please do not let this
board be filled with those who will make a killing on moving the prison. Granted
they will be enriched, it is the rest of us who will pay the bill.
Moving the prison has all the potential to be one of the biggest boondoggles in
Utah"s history. The cost multipliers are all there,litigation, regulation,
government agencies such as the EPA,Osha,ACLU and all the water and air quality
concerns. There is also the example of medicare which Lyndon Johnson predicted
cost escalated seven times and is now a major contributor to a 16 trillion
national debt. Due dilligence and proper appraisals not the kind that caused
the housing crisis and the recent economic downturn. What is wrong with razing
buildings at the prison site and just building there? Why do we need the
additional congestion and pollution and only predicted economic benefit. It
could be the taxpayers holding the bag for a big payoff to selected developers.
It's time to put some brakes on poor judgment spending. The infamous look
at this as an opportunity to rip us off again. The prisons should stay where it
is, at least for another 10-20 years after the economy begins to show some
recovery over and above that of a flat line no growth state.The land
in question is of little value and is an a high risk location where commercial
and private development is not feasible without major consequences and no
resources. The land is in a flood plain from Utah lake, Jordan river, and GSL
over flow.Why is SLC in charge of its development? This land belongs
to the state and citizens who should have full authority and oversight of its
future. Utah is being run on a trumped up economy where taxation of poverty
economy for state welfare that is our biggest employer and highest paid dead end
industry.Utah is about to face the most crushing demise of high wage
jobs at military installation in the state is not the best time to gamble on
debt based economic spending. Jobs at $5.00/hr are not economically feasible
With all the investigations going on for John Swallow I think they also need to
start investigating these legislatures pushing so hard for this prison move to
see who is paying them and pulling their strings.
Missourian, who posted above, has an excellent idea. But it won't happen.
How can people of great wealth and power trust mere peasants to make good
decisions?In a state in which something like 80% of our state
legislators have personal interests in real estate and / or land development,
conflict of interest is a constant threat.We MUST be very careful to
keep the Republican Socialists out of this somehow.(Republican
Socialism is real. Remember their motto: Socialize expense; Privatize profit.)
Has there been a sudden rise in escapes?Are there new dangerous conditions
to consider?Are those who built on that sand hill above the prison
complaining about the view?What about clean energy possibilities from the
Geothermal spring there?Sounds like a done deal the way the
legislators are pushing it.
There should be exactly ZERO members of this board that are in the construction
industry or are developers. They are the ones that would benefit immensely from
such a prison move. They do not have the needs or concerns of any Taxpayer even
on their radars. It is a massive conflict of interest to have them on such a
board. All they would see are dollar signs. The prison does not
need to be moved. We do not need to go into debt to bond for a new prison. It
is just fine where it is.I for one will happily volunteer to be on
this board. They don't even have to pay me.
Is Stevo123 right, in believing that if everyone is wanting on the committee,
there is indication they could want to make a killing on the available project?
Hopefully not, but a person might join the committee who has a conflict of
interest and not even consider that he or she is doing something wrong. To them,
it is all right. So, each person being invited to sit on the board should be
screened to determine if they have a conflict of interest or are in position
that it could develop into a conflict of interest. Having real estate sellers on
the board might poss as an entry to those who might have or develop a conflict
of interest.All that said, and while recognizing the site's
being central to volunteers, does the site hold value to attract new industry?
Off top, I can't see that it should. Or, has it value as a showpiece
location for the state? Being so far from the airport, I'm guessing not. If
it does, use it that way, but don't commercialize the property just because
it is an opportunity for someone to make a financial killing.