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BYU basketball: Did BYU's NCAA tournament bubble burst in San Diego?

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  • SoCalTrueBlue San Diego, CA
    Feb. 8, 2013 7:10 p.m.

    Answer: Yes.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    If the season ended today? Absolutely yes. However, BYU can still get in if other bubble teams continue to lose and they beat St. Mary's. The best case scenario would be to win out, including wins against St. Mary's and Gonzaga. If they do that, I believe they're in.

    Other than that, hope for a really good run in the WCC tournament to get the auto-bid.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:52 p.m.

    NevadaCoug

    BYU will have to beat Saint Mary's and Gonzaga to get into the NCAA tournament, so I believe that the best case scenario would be to beat them both on a neutral court in the WCC tournament and get the auto bid. That way, the Cougars won't have to sweat selection Sunday hoping that their bubble won't pop.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:07 p.m.

    Answer to the question; conference tournament.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:06 p.m.

    If Davies can't figure out how to make free throws, then forget it. That one thing lost the game for the Cougars on Thursday. Davies is not as hungry as he should be and he makes too many dumb mistakes. That's all. The next 7 days is going to tell the story.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    Zylstra should not be playing! He is wasting pt!?

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:30 p.m.

    Tom in CA

    Missing free throws may happen because of a lack of concentration, but it doesn't happen because of a lack of effort or a lack of desire.

    Davies, Haws and Carlino all have to play well, but the key this team being successful is getting solid contributions from other players, specifically Zylstra, Winder, Austin and Sharp. Zylstra, in particular, has disappeared in most of BYU's losses this season. He was a virtual ghost against San Diego, scoring 0 points on 0 for 7 shooting.

  • indycrimson Franklin, IN
    Feb. 9, 2013 5:48 a.m.

    There was no bubble or no burst. BYU hasn't been a post season team since pre-season. You haven't beaten a top 100 team and have been played close by everyone...in a one team conference.

    Have you checked out VTech? Iowa State? Baylor? These teams are not important...and only Gonzaga is important in the D2 type conference you enjoy playing in.

    No bubble...no bursting...just dreaming. But yes, dreams were busted...

  • Meadow Lark Mark IDAHO FALLS, ID
    Feb. 9, 2013 6:55 a.m.

    I hope that BYU can play well in the NIT.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:15 a.m.

    Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. It's still a little premature but if beating St. Mary's and Gonzaga could happen and a good tournament showing there is a remote chance.

    Though the chance of any of this happening with the inconsistent play is about as remote as the Utes winning two in a row in their conference.

    It's still been a good season of basketball and next year will be even better.

    As much as I like this team and its players I get as frustrated as watching the Jazz when Ostertag played for them.

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:22 a.m.

    Yes.

  • COUGARNATE Lyman, WY
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:27 a.m.

    I am sick of people getting on Davies about free throws. He is a big man, he shouldn't be a great free throw shooter. The player who needs to shoot free throws better is Tyler Haws. Earlier in the year he was automatic, however lately he is missing way too many front ends of one and one's and only making one of two free throws way too often lately. I am way more disappointed in Tyler's free throws lately, than I am with Davies' free thows.

  • dallas realist rockwall, texas
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    I think its safe to say that the best basketball team in utah this year is Lone Peak. all three D-1 teams are no good this year at all !

  • GO_COUGARS! Provo, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    @nate

    "I am sick of people getting on Davies about free throws. He is a big man, he shouldn't be a great free throw shooter."

    Dude. Every player should make free throws.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:47 a.m.

    indycrimson

    "There was no bubble or no burst. BYU hasn't been a post season team since pre-season."

    Says our jealous little friend from the hill.

    The truth is, BYU has been projected as a bubble team by every national "bracketoligist" since the pre-season ended.

    You're just jealous that the Utes were eliminated from bubble consideration after their FIRST D-1 game, waaaaay back on November 16th, after losing to RPI #271 Sacramento State in the Huntsman. Since then, the only drama left in Utedom was whether the rundown Utes would exceed their 3 conference wins total from last season.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    Cougs must go undefeated in the regular season and make it to the Championship game, or win the WCC tourney to get in.

    If Cougs beat St Marys in the regualar season of conference tournament, it is likely that neither of them get in and the WCC is a one bid league this year. The good news is that BYU or Gaels could make a lot of noise in the NIT.

    Davies and Haws need to get back to 70% and 90% free throw shooting. This is what cost us the last game.

    Zylstra is not playing well at all. The one line-up we haven't tried is Haws at the shooting guard and Ambrosio at the wing. I'd love to see it. Davies, Sharp or Austin, Ambrosino, Haws, Carlino. This would force opponents to guard Haws with a smaller player, and I think he could shoot over them from the 15 feet and out all day long.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:56 a.m.

    Help is on the way.

    Four of Dave Rose's five Class of 2013 signees are on the list of 814 prep seniors named as McDonald's All-American nominees - Jakob Hartsock (Oklahoma), Luke Worthington (Wisconsin), Nick Emery and Eric Mika (Utah) all made the list.

    The future of BYU basketball is bright indeed.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    Yes. What little air was left in their bubble certainly was burst. The ONLY chance for an NCAA Tourney bid is to win the WCC Tournament. If our Cougs have shown anything "consistently" throughout this season, it's that they have been inconsistent. I believe there's not chance of winning the conf. tournament. The Zags are in a league of their own this season in the WCC. Yep. Looking like NIT bid.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Feb. 9, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    I'm getting tired of the people calling for Ambrosino to play more. He DID play in the game on Thursday...and looked lost the whole time. In once sequence, he allowed Johnny Dee to have a wide open three because he didn't get over and cover.

    If Ambrosino was really that good, he would be getting more time. Maybe he is good. Who knows? But he obviously hasn't learned Rose's system well enough to merit more playing time.

  • moderateinmagna MAGNA, UT
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    Dave Rose needs to take, all his players,sit them down and lay down the law to either start rebounding and showing some gumption or sit on the bench and he will play someone who wants to play and win,and if they miss their foul shots they sit,there is absolutely no excuse to miss a foul shot, nobody is guarding you and it,s only a 15' shot Zylstra needs to be sat down permanently, the last 3-4 games he has been totally worthless i think he has only hit 3 3 pointers the whole season,Rose really needs to stop being such a nice guy and start disciplining guys who insist on taking 40' shots and missing them instead of trying to be another Jimmer.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    Feb. 9, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    RE: indycrimson

    "There was no bubble or no burst. BYU hasn't been a post season team since pre-season. You haven't beaten a top 100 team and have been played close by everyone...in a one team conference."

    While one part of that statement is almost true (RPI 100, but Santa Clara is #98), another part is very debatable (one team conference), and the other part is flat out untrue (played close by everyone).

    BYU has won games by the following margins: 81-66, 80-62, 81-62, 87-75, 85-60, 61-58, 78-68, 95-62, 84-54, 97-71, 92-51, 80-76, 76-51, 82-64, 74-57, 85-67, 63-61, 96-79. I think you'll agree that there are many more blow outs there than close games. BYU has three wins by more than 30 points and several other blow outs. While BYU is not great this year and likely won't go to the tourney (the focus of this article and discussion), even trolls should know better than to make statements like "have been played close by everyone" unless they have something to back it up.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:11 p.m.

    Like a dog to his vomit, we went back to the 3 pointer or nothing for Carlino and Zylstra. Carlino had been doing so much better with not getting over fascinated with threes. Carlino made 4 out 7 on non 3 pointers. Zylstra needs to be told to not shoot any more threes for a while or be benched permanently. Zylstra needs tough love and he might become useful. How hard is it to figure out we need to shoot the shots we are making and lay off ones we are not making for the night. I teach little kids, that if you can't make a shot from far out, move in. I can't understand why this becomes such a problem at BYU. Amazing, Haws took only 2 three pointers with 27 points. Shot selection took us down. Lack of rebounding/interior presence(Kaufusi needed) was secondary but still remains a problem.

    Shot selection-Davies-Haws- Grade A
    Shot selection-Carlino,Zylstra-Grade F(Lack of coaching or control of players)
    Offensive rebounds allowed,obtained Grade B-
    Turnovers Grade C
    Defense A-

    Dave if you have ears to hear, these items are fixable. These items generally make teams successful.

  • cal cougar camarillo, CA
    Feb. 9, 2013 7:24 p.m.

    Couple of last comments

    Sports Authority-you obviously get basketball.

    Was Sharp hurt? Why so little playing time.

    Why so much playing time for Zylstra? He must have been beast on defense. No he didn't even have a steal. So much to fix in that game and it had a lot to do with coaching. But I guess coaches have off nights too.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 12, 2013 9:30 a.m.

    The NCAA doesn't want a team who loses to San Francisco as an at large team, period. The only chance the Cougars have is to win their tournament, and the chances of that are about as good as the Utes winning their conference tourney to get in.
    Let's face it, this is a down year for college basketball in the state, all three teams won't make it in.