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BYU football: Injured QB Taysom Hill expects to be '100 percent' by spring

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  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 9:45 a.m.

    I wonder if he sees is former Stanford teammates winning rose bowls, enjoying unbelievable success, all while getting a top notch eductation, and regrets that mission-impacted decision to switch?

    Nah, dreaming of a WAC championship on a 7-6 byu team is probably his dream.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 9:51 a.m.

    Will this turn into Riley Nelson part 2?

    In all actuality I see Anae going a different direction altogether with his starting QB. Guessing he'll take a better passing QB versus the run first style of Taysom Hill. We'll see though, perhaps not.

  • football43 Morgan, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 9:59 a.m.

    I supported coach Doman until that play. That was the single worst decision I ever saw at coach make. I certainly am glad Hill will be able to continue his career at BYU and that the injury is not as bad as initially diagnosed.

  • Y Grad Pumping Gas Beaver, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    His injury should never have happened.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    Taysom is simply thrilled that he's playing for Quarterback U rather than that wannabe big boy program on the hill whose only dream is to have enough dip to go with their couch potato chips while they're watching their big brother play in another bowl.

    Poinsettia Bowl Winner > Couch Potato Chip Bowl Loser

  • Obama10 SYRACUSE, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    AS a BYU fan I am really excited to see Taysom next year. I am excited about the quarterbacks in the pipeline with Tanner Mangum and Ammon Olsen. I think the future looks bright.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:49 a.m.

    motorbike

    You may see some option plays with Taysom Hill, but unlike Riley Nelson, Taysom can also throw with accuracy. Hill has a much better arm than Travis Wilson.

    Taysom was named 5A All-Idaho Player of the Year as a senior after quarterbacking Highland to its first state title since 2002...completed 166-of-258 passes (64.3 percent) and threw for 2,269 yards and 18 touchdowns as a senior...also rushed for 1,491 yards and 24 TDs, averaging 10.2 yards per carry and 124.3 rushing yards per game...holds school single-season and career records for total offense...led Highland to the Idaho State 5A championship as a senior...Idaho's Gatorade High School Player of the Year as a senior.

  • So. Cal Reader San Diego, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    "Hill was injured on a questionable play call near the end of BYU's game against Utah State." Ryan, please stop reminding us! We've tried to forget about the call! :o) Looking forward to a healthy Taysom starting Fall practice as the #1. Can't wait to see what Anae can do with Taysom and the offense.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    Travis Wilson, for comparison, passed for 2,289 yards and 24 touchdowns and rushed for 467 yards and nine TDs his senior year. Travis has a terrific frame and he gets rid of the ball quickly, but his sidearm delivery negates some of his size advantage. He is a good athlete who put up decent rushing numbers at the high school level, but isn't much of a running threat on the college level. He shows good touch on the deep ball and is accurate underneath, but his accuracy breaks down on the intermediate passes.

  • FairchildIV Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    I understand if Doman were to hand the ball off to the running back or something to kill time, but given the amount of time on the clock, anything other than a knee is risking potential injury. What I don't understand is why of all things they decided to run a draw. Hill is supposed to be the QB of the future so why give the D a chance to lay a clean hard hit on him? Hopefully this injury doesn't come back to haunt the Cougs.

  • Mount Olympus Salt Lake, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:10 a.m.

    Once again Bronco takes 0 responsibility.
    Why is everyone blaming Doman?

    Yes, Doman deserves some of the blame.
    Bronco also deserves blame.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:11 a.m.

    Y grad wannabe U grad pumping gas

    "His injury should never have happened."

    True, just like Wynn and Hays should have never happened at the U, but that's all water under the bridge now. Moving forward, the only thing that matters is getting back to basics and re-establishing the BYU offense that has been so dominant in years past.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    Worst Coaching decision in BYU History ?

    And it Cost the Offensive coordinator his Job !

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    Mount Olympus

    "Once again Bronco takes 0 responsibility.
    Why is everyone blaming Doman?"

    More negative spin from the kids on the hill. If you'd paid any attention to the articles published right after the game, you'd know that Bronco took full responsibility for Taysom's injury, even though it was Doman who was responsible for the mixed signals that led to Hill running a dive play instead the victory formation.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    Good luck with the recovery and best wishes for a successful career.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 11:30 a.m.

    I like how he drops back to pass then runs for 4 yards.

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 12:02 p.m.

    Dude is a stud. Let's put him in a situation to succeed.

  • Y Grad Pumping Gas Beaver, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    @Whatsnu

    "His injury should never have happened." Just stating the obvious, everyone watching was probably yelling at their TV, "NO."

    You said; "True, just like Wynn and Hays should have never happened at the U" What in the world does that mean?

    So, Whatsnu? obvious nothing at the Y. Coach Anae new? No, he's an old coach, I remember when the Cougar Nation wanted his head on a plater. Bronco new? No, still doing Lavelle impersonations, he's actually our best player. BYU beating the U new? No same old story. Cant wait for September.

    Correction; Whatsnu? yes there is going to be something new, a T-shirt slogan, cant wait for the unveiling.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    Glad to see you following your obsession with BYU and posting first again. Glad to also see that your comments about playing in the Rose Bowl reflect the reality that Utah isn't the team you mentioned. At least maybe you've finally realized that U don't belong in the elite of the PAC 12 but are just fodder to fight with CU and WSU for the bottom slot.

    On the brighter things: I see this QB as being a great improvement and a sure-fire recipie for playing in a bowl game next fall. (Along with USU there will again be two teams representing our pretty, great state.)

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Feb. 5, 2013 1:03 p.m.

    Hill's style reminds me of Colin Kaepernick. Sure he's got a long way to go to reach Colin's level, but he has the arm and legs to be a real dual threat QB. To compare him to Nelson is ignorant. They are completely different QBs.

    chris b - At least BYU can win the WAC championship, unlike U who couldn't beat a WAC team. U may also want to look at the 2014 schedule where U play more WAC teams than BYU. Good luck against Fresno State. BYU will be playing Texas that weekend.

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 1:50 p.m.

    Seems like a nice kid and sure wish him the best with his recovery. However, from seeing him play he's another all run- no throw QB; and now there's a question about the running part. Comparing him to Kapernick is too funny to address.

  • WisCoug MOUNT HOREB, WI
    Feb. 5, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    @Riddles in the Dark

    Hill's numbers from high school do not compare favorably to the numbers of his predecessor Riley Nelson. Nelson completed a higher percentage of passes, for more yards, and more than double the number of TDs. Nelson had a similar yards per carry average and made it into the endzone 5 more times than Taysom. Your high school numbers mean nothing for your collegiate success if you don't have the right coaches, the right frame, or a big (enough) arm.

    Having Anae should help, but you may recall that the run game was as unproductive as it was predictable. Were it not for the special talent that was Harvey Unga, the offense would have been pass-only instead of pass-first. Anae's offense is not going to call for a lot of QB draw or option run (thank goodness), but Hill has (or had, depending on his recovery) the jets if the opportunity arises. I hope the coaches leave it wide open for their players to prove they deserve it and let the best man win.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    @ CougFaninTX

    Utah is playing zero WAC schools in 2014. Fresno is a MWC school. However if that's the road you want to go down: In 2014 BYU plays Houston, Nevada, Middle Tennessee St. (on the road), Southern Miss, and UNLV. I can guarantee you that Utah won't be lining up against mid-majors during those weeks. Especially the last three, which are scheduled for November...

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    ImaCaMan

    Comparing Hill to Kapernick would only be "funny" to a jealous Utah fan. With better protection from a vastly improved offensive line, Hill could have an outstanding career at BYU. From what I've heard, the injury shouldn't affect Taysom's running ability at all. He's much better runner AND passer than Travis Wilson.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    Hill's injury came on the bonehead play call of the century. Still, next time, I'll bet Hill will also be experienced enough to audible out of that dumb call. And if Tujague can create a D1 offensive line out of the guys he has this year, BYU could be a very, very good team--they better be or they will lose more than they win this year. But this is the kind of schedule that will allow BYU to make a case for a BCS bowl if they can defeat the teams on their schedule.

  • Mark321 Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 5, 2013 2:40 p.m.

    @ Y's little brother

    Bro that was low. Funny, but low.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 5, 2013 3:02 p.m.

    U grad pumping Lenny's gas

    What does "just like Wynn and Hays should have never happened at the U" mean?

    The Utes should never have had to rely on an injury-prone starting QB coming off shoulder surgery because Whitless had left the Utah QB cupboard so bare that Utah's only half decent backup was a D-II transfer who was only available because his school had dropped football.

    Your hyperbole notwithstanding, Anae and Mendenhall have been FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL as a team than Johnson and Whittingham's dismal 5-7 record.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Feb. 5, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    Two For Flinching

    "Utah is playing zero WAC schools in 2014."

    You need to talk to your girl friend christy. She's apparently operating under the delusion that the WAC still plays football. One of you is obviously mistaken.

    btw, since BYU's schedule for 2014 isn't close to complete, it's silly to be comparing schedules that far ahead. But don't kid yourself, the Utes line up against mid-major Colorado every season.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 5, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    Riddles in the Dark:

    "Hill has a much better arm than Travis Wilson....He shows good touch on the deep ball and is accurate underneath, but his accuracy breaks down on the intermediate passes."

    Hill started in 2 games in 2012. He averaging 173.5 ypg passing, a completed 63.2% of his passes, and finished his season with a 122.4 QB rating. By way of comparison, Wilson started in 7 games, averaging averaged 173.3 ypg passing, completing 61.9% of his passes, and finished his season with a 122.2 QB rating.

    Sooo...MUCH better?

    I'd also like to point out that Hill's longest completions of his short season were only 28, 24, 21, and 18 (twice) yds. Wilson's deep completions were 42, 41, 37, 35, 24, 20, and 18. Ergo, if there's something wrong with Wilson's accuracy, you'd have to admit Hill's really can't be really that impressive either.

    The numbers tell a different story than the frantic and emotional one you authored. The only big differences between these 2 QBs is Wilson has more starts (experience) under his belt, and played a "big boy" schedule.

  • Serenity Now Highland, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 4:06 p.m.

    I don't think it should be assumed that Hill will be the starting QB or even presumed favorite going into spring ball. Hill was fun to watch running the ball, but his throwing accuracy and decision making weren't all that impressive in the Boise State and Utah State games. Plus, Anae will definitely try to establish his own offense and whoever can complete the most short passes and make good decisions under pressure will win the job. Maybe that'll be Hill, maybe someone else.

    Munns, Ammon, Green....hmmmm. OK, Hill will win the starting job.

  • CWEB Orem, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 5:13 p.m.

    You are not the real Ernest T. Bass.

    I hope they don't take away his opportunity...Nothing is solid at BYU anymore. Not winning, not coaches, not expectations of the fans.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Feb. 5, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    I love how Domans name is mentioned.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Talk about frantic and emotional!

    You obviously don't understand that there's absolutely no correlation between length of pass completion and passing accuracy. A 50-yard pass completion could simply be heaving a pass down field with enough air under it to allow the receiver time to run under it or it could be a 5-yard dump off catch and run, whereas a 20-yard pass completion could a bullet to the sidelines that arrives just as the receiver turns to look for it.

    Hill played half the game against #18 Boise State, accounting for BYU only TD against the Broncos, and started against Hawaii and #16 Utah State.

    Wilson only started against one Top 25 team, #20 Oregon State, and three of his other 6 starts came against California(3-9), Washington State(3-9), and Colorado(1-11). Wilson's pretend "big boy" schedule included three patsies.

    Hill's real big boy schedule included one patsy and two Top 25 teams, as many Top 25 teams in three games, as Utah played during the entire season.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 6:37 p.m.

    CougFanTx, Utah plays Oregon the same week BYU plays Idaho State. What's your point?

    Riddles, next fall on a Friday night drive your Benz from Oly Cove to Eastern Idaho and watch the Highland High school football team beat up on Idaho Falls HS. Then on the following Friday drive your BMW to Orange County and watch San Clemente play Mission Viejo and ask yourself if the talent level in Idaho and California are comparable. Your post is nice, but you can't compare apples to oranges.

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 9:26 p.m.

    U 90

    Having seen both Wilson and Hill play, it's obvious, Hill is the better QB, it's not even close.

    There's a reason Stanford went all the way to Idaho to recruit Hill, while completely ignoring instate Travis Wilson, playing just down the I-5. Don't bother even trying to argue that Stanford doesn't recruit Southern California. The Cardinal signed two 4-star recruits from San Diego in the same 2009 recruiting class as Taysom Hill.

  • U 90 Corona, CA
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:45 p.m.

    Backpac,

    Keep in mind I'm not saying Wilson is a Heisman candidate, like we were old Jake Heaps would be. What I'm saying is that it's NOT obvious Hill is a better QB. In the Boise State game Hill demonstrated how far he still has to go when the majority of his passes landed in the turf 2 feet in front of his WR. But opinion are subjective, right?

    So lets look at QB ratings. Hill's was 122.4, Wilson's 122.2. You're right, it obvious that Hill is so much better.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 6, 2013 7:43 a.m.

    bacWACn:

    "There's a reason Stanford went all the way to Idaho to recruit Hill, while completely ignoring instate Travis Wilson, playing just down the I-5."

    Yes, but that reason was because Stanford had already stockpiled a deep bench of 4-star QB recruits...which would most likely be the reason why Hill chose not to return to Stanford. If you want to make a case that Hill was a better recruit than Wilson, let's see your justification. Frantic emotion doesn't count. You need evidence. Such as when Hill was recruited out of high school, Rivals rated him as the #30 Pro-style QB. Conversely, when Wilson was being recruited out of high school, Rivals rated him the #11 Pro-style QB. Edge Wilson.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    Feb. 6, 2013 8:25 a.m.

    Two of the dumbest plays ever made at BYU were OC's not calling taking a knee at critical times. The first when Robert Anae chose to run it out against UCLA deep inside thier own 5 yd line with only 7 seconds left in the first half and already leading by 10 points. That play nearly cost BYU the game when it was fumbled and recovered by UCLA for a touchdown. The game came down to a final fieldgoal try for the win by UCLA that BYU was lucky enough to block. Ironically Doman didn't learn anything from that ill fated play and chose to try and run up the score and loses his best quarterback to a serious season ending injury. Now for 2013 we are stuck with Bronco rehiring Anae back. All I can say is that he better have picked up a lot of new material for offensive plays under Stoops and Rodriguez while at Arizona...otherwise his limited and highly predictable play calling will again be easily picked apart.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Feb. 6, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    re: "There's a reason Stanford went all the way to Idaho to recruit Hill,..."

    Naval Vet said:

    "reason was because Stanford had already stockpiled a deep bench of 4-star QB recruits..."

    LOL at your delusional spin.

    Why would Stanford waste a scholarship on a 3-star QB from Idaho if they already had a deep bench stockpiled with 4-star QB recruits?

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 6, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    The injury to Hill is adversity big time. Hill looks to be a mature kid and I think BYU is optimistic in his recovery and future.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    I'm excited about Hill as a QB. As far as Hill vs. Wilson though, I think as far as pure arm strength Hill and Wilson are very similar. At least up until this point in time Hill appears to be a better athlete. He appears to be stronger and faster, even though Wilson is taller.

    One of the things I'm most excited about with Taysom Hill is his upside between the ears. He had a scholarship offer to Stanford. Stanford doesn't offer scholarships to idiots. It's been a long time since we've had a really SMART QB. I think John Beck (besides the two games we had from James Lark) may have been the last level-headed guy BYU has had under center, and I get that same vibe from Taysom Hill. I'm excited to see how he develops.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Feb. 6, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    "motorbike

    Cottonwood Heights, UT

    Will this turn into Riley Nelson part 2?

    In all actuality I see Anae going a different direction altogether with his starting QB. Guessing he'll take a better passing QB versus the run first style of Taysom Hill. We'll see though, perhaps not."

    Who do they have on the roster who is better? I don't think Mangum returns from a mission until next year and furthermore, even if he has Hill has game experience.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 6, 2013 12:32 p.m.

    Rockwell:

    "Why would Stanford waste a scholarship on a 3-star QB from Idaho if they already had a deep bench stockpiled with 4-star QB recruits?"

    Because Hill signed in 2009. That class had only 2 QBs: 4-star Josh Nunes, and Hill.

    In 2010, Stanford signed 4-star Brett Nottingham, and 3-star recruits Dallas Lloyd and Darren Daniel (both of whom were ranked higher at their position than Hill was back in '09).

    In 2011, Stanford signed 2 more 3-star QBs in Kevin Hogan (also higher ranked than Hill) and Evan Crower.

    In 2012, already deep at the QB position, Stanford signed none. They already had 4-star Andrew Luck under center, with 4-stars like Nunes and Nottingham backing him up. There appeared to be very little chance for the four 3-star QBs backing THEM up. That's not spin. Stanford simply wasn't looking for a QB back in 2012 when Wilson was being recruited. The "spin" was that Stanford went all the way to Idaho to grab Hill with Wilson playing right down I-5 South, as some sort of validation that Hill > Wilson. Fail!

    LOL at YOU!

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    How could the Cardinal overlook such a prized recruit as Travis Wilson, even if they were already stocked at QB? Must not have had what it takes between the ears to cut it at Stanford.

    Bottom line, no matter how you slice it:

    Taysom Hill signed with Stanford.

    Travis Wilson wasn't even considered by Stanford.

    It's interesting that Jordan Wynn was ranked higher than Joe Southwick or Taysom Hill in 2009, yet the Cardinal recruited Hill (from Idaho) rather than Wynn (Oceanside) or Southwick (Danville - right in Stanford's backyard). Southwick as you know played at Boise State.

    Kinda makes you wonder why Stanford went after Taysom instead of those other "higher" rated QB's, doesn't it?

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 2:55 p.m.

    Chris B is the funniest commenter for Deseret News sports articles I've ever read. He obviously sits around all day watching and waiting for a new article about BYU, so he can be the first to list his ignorant and uninformed comment. Never fails. Since the U football program is no longer very interesting to watch, this has become his main pastime. What a shame. What a waste!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 6, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    Y's little brother:

    "Taysom Hill signed with Stanford...Travis Wilson wasn't even considered by Stanford."

    ...and Taysom hill wasn't even considered by UCLA or Washington, whereas Wilson was. Bottom line, Wilson was the higher rated QB between the two. You lost the argument. That must be why you're now trying to change the argument into a Hill-Wynn one. What does Hill-Wynn have anything to do with Wilson?

    And FWIW, Hill was the #30 Pro-style QB of the 2009 class. Wynn was ranked #22. There's really not a whole lot of separation between the 2. Perhaps Stanford preferred the 210-lbs QB to the 150-lbs one.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Feb. 6, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    Yes stars matter. They are just nowhere near an exact science. Where BYU is different than other schools who sign less noticeable players is that BYU does there homework on guys that love the program, are likely to play hard, stay clean with the honor code, and are noteworthy citizens.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    Re: Naval Vet

    Actually Jordan Wynn was 34th so . . . just saying.

    On another interesting note, though, Cody Vaz of Oregon St. was 33rd in that class and Joe Southwick of Boise State was 32nd. Kind of interesting.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Feb. 6, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Cougar Claws:

    I was -- as always -- referring to Rivals ranking. And in that regard, my posted rankings were accurate. Wynn was #22, and Hill was #30. Just saying.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    Re: Naval Vet

    Of course you would reference the site that makes your team looks as best as possible. But, to each his own.

  • Down under Pullman, WA
    Feb. 6, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    Wow Chris B. What a cheap shot right off the bat.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 6, 2013 9:14 p.m.

    Those taking pot shots at Taysom Hill are way off base. The super athletic QB with a strong arm IS the modern quarterback. Look at the guys who are turning heads in college and carrying it into the NFL--Cam Newton, RGIII, Kapernick, Johnny Manziel (not pro yet)--just to name a few. Though not as refined, Taysom Hill is of the same mold as these guys. And no, he is NOT just a bigger and faster Riley Nelson. This guy has far more skills. If we can get a coach who will work on Taysom's throwing mechanics, he will be very, very good.

    I am very excited about the prospect of Taysom as the starting QB for BYU. He typifies the present and future of college and professional football. All of the above mentioned beat teams with their legs and their arms. I expect to see the same from Hill.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:47 p.m.

    Taysom should make a great QB. He is smart and accurate when passing. His escape dimension is incredible. Under Anae BYU will return to its passing roots. Taysom will be like Steve Young, good with his feet and his arm.

    It is an absolute shame that back up QB's languish on the bench. Every other position have more opportunities to play and develop. Many of BYU's backup QB's could have played in the NFL if only they had the experience in college.

    James Lark could have been an NFL QB given the chance under a coach like Anae.
    Jake Heap would probably have stayed at BYU if Anae had stayed.