Governor opts to return money after Deseret News inquiry
So much for principles....
Members of congress are supposed to avoid even the "appearance of
impropriety".No elected official should cast a vote on any issue
for which they have received anything of value.Can you imagine how
much cleaner our politics would be?
Frankly, I am much more concerned about contributions from entities with far
greater potential to harm the interests of Utahns by pushing legislation that
wastes money, or imposes undesirable and pernicious mandates.Like
the trial lawyers, the teacher unions, and the public employee unions.How much did they "invest" in Utah politicians last year?
If the Governor didn't realize the Tobacco industry paid him $1,000 for a
table at his gala type event, then it would be similar to the ICORE project
contractor $87,000 that he got?Sort of like John Swallow and their
integrity quotients. Maybe their parents didn't teach them about avoiding
the appearance of evil and not just that it is against the law.They
forget that in their high and glorious offices as elected officials in Utah that
they aren't like Chicago where the fishbowl is cloudy and people can't
see the clearness through the glass. If we are becoming like our neighboring
states and countries about integrity, then we may have a problem with ethics,
also.If the legislature avoids talking and making decisions on
ethics for the next 100 years, then the problem will go away. If they accept
the blood money from contributions from "lobbyists" like you, then we
will have more problems in the future that we don't see today.It all comes back to what the definition of "is" is. If in 2004
morals were marginal in a lot of people, it may not be better today. If we had
Thank you DN. You set the example. I just wish you could cover more national and
That certainly is an eye opener.Appears to go along with continuing
"conflicts of interest" which have recently come to light.Do they
begin their meetings singing "Do as we say, not as we do" ?
Why would someone gladly accept money from, say, an Oil and Gas Company looking
for favorable legislation, and sun an Alcohol or Tobacco company
contribution?If these "contributions" do not sway ones
treatment of either company, why should it make a difference?Until
we get all payoffs out of politics, we will have poor decision making by our
elected officials.One cannot carp about the bad influence of
"union money" while yelling "freedom of speech" at superpacs.
And vise versa.One cannot deride the Koch brothers political
influence while giving George Soros a pass. They both want to purchase
politicians. And not for the good of the country.I urge you all to
speak out against ALL contributions to politicians. Not just those that the
other side gets.
The tobacco and alcohol lobbies are the industries that I fear least here in
Utah. When was the last time that either of those were able to unduly influence
the Utah legislature? I doubt that it's happened in the last 50 years. What
about other interests? Health care, mining, education, etc.? I have nothing
against those industries, but if Herbert got (for example) $5,000 from the UEA,
would he be giving that back? I doubt it.
Let us have a list of all the legislators and who got what.
@ Bryan"The tobacco and alcohol lobbies are the industries that
I fear least here in Utah."Sure, what's a few million
deaths worldwide each year.
$96k? That's nothing. Utah lawmakers rake in hundreds of millions of
dollars from lobbyists and we're fretting about $96k from alcohol and
tobacco? That's the equivalent of a penny in an average person's bank
Everyone should know by now there are no morals left in politicians or politics.
They will lie cheat and steal even from each other; what do you think they
willingly do to us every day? Then when they get caught they just hope to
weather the storm unless their party pushes hard enough to get them to leave
because they don't want to get any of the stink on them to.