Pretty sure Penn St., Ohio St. and Minnesota are in the Big 10, not 12
This is exactly the type of schedule Tom Holmoe promised BYU fans by the third
year of Independence and now he's delivered.Grade A!
Normally, I'd give an AD with the Y's 2013 schedule a "B+".
Had Texas, Wisconsin, and Notre Dame been Home-&-Home games, they could have
earned an "A". However, Y fans have proven time and time again that
they don't care "who" they play; just that they win. Hence, their
immediate flirtation with the WAC. Even Bronco himself said, "the model had
been set" in reference to Hawaii's weak WAC schedule back in 2007 that
enabled them to back into a BCS bowl. Then after saying that, the very next
team added to the cougars' already mediocre schedule: the FCS'
Northern Iowa. And then they "Quested" for perfection.I see
a few cupcakes on that line up, but I'm not sure it's enough to get Y
fans excited about potentially embarking on another "Quest".The last sold out game the cougars had at LES was Utah -- who then proceded to
pound them 54-10, and sending Y "fans" fleeing towards the
stadium's exits by the end of the 3rd Qtr. I guess we'll have to wait
and see if they can sell out a game without their big brother on the field to
draw the "fans".
D Harmon and more blue Kool-Aid.
Chris hill's job of getting us USC, ucla, Stanford, Oregon, Washington,
Maybe this will help prevent the serious cases of carpal tunnel in store for all
those cute little utes "fans" that sit in front of the computer screen
all day waiting for the next BYU article to hit the web. Here is a
good analogy for you to consider. While Utah is winning the battle (Head
to Head), BYU is winning the war (better overall records, higher rankings, more
national exposure, ect.) I guess fans have to decide what is more
important to them?Now can we avoid another comment thread full of
garbage comments and have intelligent discussion? Personally, I think
Holmoe is doing a fantastic job with scheduling, especially giving the unique
circumstances of independence. Now Bronco & Company need to take care of
business and win some games.
oh chrisy how do you figure you are a member of the BCS unless you play
football you are not a bcs member the school might be but you yourself are
not not unless you are on the board and i highly doubt that.
A+, best schedule I've seen for the cougars in at least the last twenty
years. The balance is great with easier games and byes in-between the most
difficult contests. I'm also thrilled to see that ten of the games are on
Saturday and am optimistic that most games will be shown on national television.
I will be surprised if we do any better than 7-5 (even that might be
optimistic), but you can't blame Holmoe, this is about as good as it gets.
Of course I'm a little biased since the schedule gives me the opportunity
drive over to watch the cougs play my Badgers and I can even swing down to South
Bend when they play the Irish. Go cougs!
Easy A, are you kidding. Very silly question to ask.
Tom Holmoe deserves all of the howls and wolf calls we can muster. I will stick
with an A- grade since he could not close Mizzou (as of this date still an 11
game schedule and open on 11/16) and had to settle for Idaho State. Clearly,
Leach and Sarkesian don't need any more trouble beyond what they gets in
the Pac. As for Chow, he doesn't want to get his butt kicked at home and
then have to recruit against BYU on the islands. Chow has also held a grudge
since Crowton got the job he felt should have been his. Lucky for us. Holmoe is showing us why he has four Super Bowl rings. This rocks.
It's sad when half the comments for grading BYU's 2013 schedule are
snide little digs from Utah fans, yet the only two comments about the retirement
of Rick's sweater, both complimentary, come from BYU fans.More
proof that a large portion of "Utah fans" are really just "BYU
haters".----------Holmoe definitely gets an A+ grade
for BYU's 2013 schedule - tough, challenging opponents spread throughout
the season, nice home and away balance, and great scheduling of the byes and
I would give Holmoe a B for his effort and now when BYU plays .500 I will give
him an A.No matter how good you are, your going to the SF
"It is interesting that in three cases, coaches with ties to BYU (Mike
Leach, Steve Sarkisian and Norm Chow) had their schools cancel series with the
Cougars.""Consider that the MWC appears to still have its
boycott of BYU in place for departing."I don't know
anything about what happened with Washington and Washington St but it is very
clear that Chow had nothing to do with the MCW conference scheduling the
Championship game on the day Hawaii was penciled in on byu's schedule.
Boycott of byu by the MWC? Seriously? Why does Harmon do this? Why is he
compelled to paint byu as a victim and why do byu fans buy into this schtick?
Great grade at this time. The schedule is "the best the Y has ever
had". He should also get a grade after the season. But more importantly,
what grade does he get for leading the Y to independence? Little is know about
the finished schedule for 2014 and beyond. In addition, I wonder how the long
term outlook is for recruiting this year and beyond. That said, I find myself
supporting the Y for the first time I can remember - Perhaps I have "moved
on" in baby steps.
Tom did a great job with the schedule every year he has had that responsibility.
This is an excellent effort. I question his allowing so many young assistanc
coaches. Not good. Sure glad he pushed for changes in the offense. We are
lucky to have him as the AD. He's a great improvement over what we had
before he came.
MyPerspectiveSalt Lake City, UT"Why does Harmon do this?
Why is he compelled to paint byu as a victim and why do byu fans buy into this
schtick? Just asking."Have you followed the MWC for any length
of time? It isn't only Utah that loves to hate the Y. The first wall to
fall though was SDSU being willing to play BYU in the Poinsetia Bowl.
Seriously, many of the coaches stopped just short of swearing an oath to never
play BYU again. Go back and read for yourself.As to inferring that
WSU and UW cancelled their contracts, that is a fact. That they did it because
they didn't want anything to do with BYU while trying to work their way up
the PAC - conjecture. Blaming it on the coaches? Unsubstantiated rumor. But
A++++++++++++++++++++++++++Miss Shields style...
BYU schedule work = AGetting Cal on NCAA probation while the coach = F
Given the ever changing landscape of football conferences, I'm impressed
with what Holmoe has been able to accomplish in only the 3rd season as an
independent. I believe Holmoe took a lot of criticism for the last two seasons
of home games and there was little he could do about it with the sudden move to
indy status.As a Ute fan I wish Chris Hill could realize his mistake of
not scheduling the rivalry game for the next two years and find a way to make
this happen. I don't know of any fan who wants to see a game with Fresno
State instead of the rivalry with the Cougs.Go Utes.
Some Utah fans may think that their schedule is A+++. However, since their
schedule will represent a losing season most years then how do you factor that
in? Is it that the schedule is too hard or that the Utes are too bad?You might have to schedule your Idaho States, New Mexico States, and more. I
guess that's why you dropped your old travel partner, BYU, so that you
wouldn't lose one more game that could be critical to being 50-50.
I love BYU's schedule. It puts an end to trash talk about patsies from guys
like me. As Ute fans, while we wait for losses to pile up to validate our
position of what a real schedule can do, I think Holmoe balanced it out just
right. Independence has its' down side. Scheduling can be a
problem , but it's also nice to choose opponents rather than being locked
in if you can line up good schools to play. I don't have a problem with BYU
playing two patsies, one or two is par for the course for many quality programs.
I just was bothered the last two years when BYU fans put stock into four
automatic wins. Utah plays one patsy next year, that being Weber
State. USU might be, but I think they are still decent after Gary Anderson. It
doesn't matter because BYU plays them as well. The problem BYU
has is that although it's okay playing Middle Tennessee State and Idaho, it
would be better if those were tune up games early in the year. November has
its' scheduling challenges. BYU does have a bye week before Utah (good move
Playing Nevada is much better than Hawaii. A good MWC team is the equivalent to
a bad PAC 12 team, and the PAC 12 has those. Although I hope not, I think that
BYU could win 10 games next year. I don't think they will, but I see them
better than 6-6. I think 7-5 or 8-4 makes sense. The schedule is tougher this
year but the record might still be about the same as the QB play should be
better and Anae will be an upgrade.
BYU should have stayed in the MWC. Only big markets effect national
appreciation. And Provo/Orem isn't exactly a big market. Never has been.
The more populated east and west with their big-headed big-money big-market
supremacy (along with the bcs) will always skew teams who belong "to the
club"...in their favor.Considering all the health issues
football players face, and the fact that hundred sustain life-altering and
brain-altering injuries, BYU should just shut down their football program.
C-Cons- too slow in insisting that needed changes regarding the football
staff be made. He was in essence forced by the paying customers to get
involvedThe man needs to be screaming like a Banchee to get the admin to
hire outside help to lobby the Big XII for membership. West Virginia did and
they are 1 1/2 times as far away as BYU from B12 cities with a tiny TV market,
no national following, smaller attendance, Louisville, Pitt did with the ACC.
BYU officials think the B12 will come begging wont happen. Pro- Listened
to the fans but long after the football program had fallen badly. FWIW- Holmoe
is the head of the football program, Socrates is his underling.Initiated
changes in the Marriiott to change out bench seats and improve the odd color
scheme. Mustard yellow, who thought that one up?
@DickIf BYU has contracts with Utah State, Boise State, Nevada and
UNLV, then how is the Mtn. West Conference Boycotting BYU?Dumping
Hawaii was a blessing..... SDSU..."Never" again....New Mexico, Wyoming,
Fresno, San Jose...who cares? The only other teams worth playing
from the Mtn West would be Air Force or Colorado State.
An "A" for sure; that's a really nice, well rounded schedule.
I shocked too see ute fans not give him high scores. Would have never seen that
It seemed that BYU had the chance to schedule Missouri before they scheduled
Idaho State but did not act on the opportunity. I still like the schedule but
wish we were still playing WSU and Hawaii.
I can't wait to see how BYU's offense does this year. I hope for
great improvement while the defense keeps up the good work. Also I hope the
kicking game improves. If we can maintain the defense while improving the
offense and kicking, I believe BYU will surprise a lot of big name schoos we a
re playing this year.
I do not think anyone else could do better with the cards dealt. Hawaii had
nothing to do with the MWC scheduling the game the same day. As for the other
teams there are reasons and I do not think it is because they hate BYU. Maybe a
bit scared but hate no. If you have a good prospect that you may lose another
game you think twice. I like this schedule because we may lose several games.
But if we do it is to quality teams. If we win we get respect. I would like to
see all hard games. Then we would really grow and be the team we all want. I
think BYU would schedule all better teams if they were available. You do the
best you can. Even ND has a few cup cakes as they too have a hard time during
the final weeks. And they too need a few extra wins. As for all
please respect the topic. Not every BYU article is a Hate BYU or Hate Utah
forum. Again we are not in Kindergarten seeing whose brother can beat up the
other. 2 great programs with different paths. Respect this please.
I'm really glad that BYU and the U decided to part ways for a while. That
rivalry was very unhealthy.
A for awesome and R for totally rad.
A. Interesting games and well placed games. If this type of schedule can be
maintained, no need for a conference.
bluto"San Jose...who cares?"True, I guess it
doesn't really matter if you lose to San Jose, Boise St or Nevada. Bottom
of the WAC either way.
Chris B-I'm not one of those BYU fans that hates the U. Quite to the
contrary. But you can't give Hall an A+ until the Utes start to beat some
of those teams. Same for the Y. Great schedule, but you have to beat some of the
tough teams you schedule.
The 3 cases of coaches with BYU ties who aided in canceling games with BYU
should have been expanded to 4 cases, because Whittingham also has BYU ties and
he assisted in getting BYU off the schedule for the next two years. There is
some typical oligopoly behavior going on from the western conferences who want
to get BYU out of the marketplace, but Holmoe has done a good job in fighting
back and he has been aided by the four best programs in the MWC (SDSU, Boise St,
Utah State and Nevada).The PAC12 is despicably and unjustifiably
arrogant. gdog12 is correct that these 4 good teams in the MWC are as good (or
much better) than the bad teams in the PAC12, and they have already proven it in
I think this might be their toughest schedule yet. The MWC boycotting
BYU...highly dubious Dick: UNLV, Nevada, Hawaii, USU, SDSU (bowl). Ehh, what
are facts though--stop the presses and go with it.It will be
interesting to see if BYU can keep future schedules up to this level. If BYU
wants to compete for a possible BCS bowl or championship (and I don't know
that they do) they need to try and join the Big 12. Winning that conference
would put BYU in an instant spotlight, just like Kansas State this year, but
that might involve a couple of losing seasons and hard work, so that's
off.If BYU is playing three or four "boycotted" MWC teams a
year, might as well join it and try to win it. With the Big East as weak as it
is, the MWC is essentially the new AQ for a BCS bowl. It's a pretty tough
conference--BYU went 2-2 in it last year. I don't think going .500 against
a conference makes you better than it, but I am sure many will enlighten me on
Chris BSalt Lake City, UT"Chris hill's job of getting us
USC, ucla, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Michigan, etc.?A++++++"Whit's job of beating USC, ucla, Stanford, Oregon, Washington,
C - : How will BYU ever get to 7,8,9,10 wins without 6 WAC teams on the
Y's Guy:The last time Whit faced Michigan...he beat them. And
then went on to win the Sugar Bowl during YOUR "Quest for
Perfection".Whittingham is 2-2 vs. UCLA. If we get an
"F", so does UCLA.All of Whittingham's games vs. USC
and Oregon were competitive.We DO get an "F" vs.
Washington.And YOU get an "F" for logic. Next time,
don't be so frantic and emotional.
A+ for schedule. 3 marquee programs. 7 competitive programs. 2 cupcakes.
Would love to see this every year. Swapping Virginia for WSU and Nevada for
Hawaii at the 11th hour improved the schedule.B- for coaching
changes. Recycling Anae as OC will be better than what we had, but I would have
liked to see a more risky move. The next Chip Kelly has to be out there
somewhere. DuPaix and his Option mentality was not a good fit for BYU. But
none of us understood why Cahoon was fired. No announcement regarding Doman is
a concern and taking so long to find a QB coach is troubling. If Detmer is
announced, I will raise this grade. If Max Hall is announced, I'm even
Chris B:Hows that inferiority complex workin for ya?
Naval Vet,I agree that an F is not justified, but I don't see
anything better than a D. No bowl game, and Whitt has yet to beat a team with a
winning record. Nobody remembers that you competed, only that you won or lost.
The Cougars competed against Texas, who cares; they still lost. In fact, they
were just a few plays away from only having one loss, but I don't care,
they still lost. Remove your emotions and the best you can give Whitt is a D.
Naval VetRegardless of the name attached to the team, Whit's
job of beating good PAC 12 teams - "F"Utah is still winless
against conference foes with winning records, and he's managed to lose to a
couple of them, most glaringly, Colorado - grade versus bad teams -
"F"Utah did have some very good wins in 2008, but barely
beating the Wolverines(3-9) 25-23 was not one of them.Bronco's
record versus USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, and Michigan2-1 versus UCLA, 59-0 for BYU last meeting2-0 versus Washington1-0
versus Oregon, 38-8 for BYU in only meetingHasn't played USC,
Stanford or Michigan, yet
Naval VetPhiladelphia, PA"Frantic and emotional'?
LOLNot very sensitive, are we? As I recall (and you
apparently don't), the Y has beat Washington, Michigan, Stanford, UCLA,
Oregon. But, keep the knee-jerk reactions coming. They're
really quite humorous.
Y's Guy:As I recall, (and you apparently don't), your
point was that Whittingham gets an "F------" for not "beating USC,
ucla, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Michigan, etc", and you were proven to
be illogical, frantic and emotional. So what do you do? In typical cougar
fashion, you try to change the argument. Too late. You lost.I
don't recall seeing the Y beating UWa, Mich, Stanford, UCLA, OR Oregon last
season at all. If you were referring to the all-time series, the ONLY team on
that list the U had never beaten was Washington. But then again, We HAVE beaten
USC a few times whereas you had not.Now look what you did. You just
embarrassed yourself again.
When talking about the 2013 season, without including the 2012 and 2011 seasons
which I thought weree terruble, I would give an A- grand for the scheudle if not
an A.Scheduling Idaho was not good. As the Saragin poll points out, it
only hurts us, win, lose or draw. It dramatically tears down our strength of
schedule at a time that we want to be noticed by the Pac 12, Big 12, Sec, or
Acc.We could have chosen, instead of the Idaho School, the available
teams that would added to our respect i.e. Syracuse, Missouri, or Wake Forest.
This would have earned an A+ grade for scheduling from me.Don’t misunderstand me, I do consider the A- to A grade almost
excellent. I am grateful for the schedue that we do have vs. Texas, Wisconsin,
ND, Ga Tec., Boise State, Va., and Utah.I didn’t think that I would
ever see the day that I would consider Utah State as an equal.Houston has
it’s ups and down years as a mid major. I hate to say it, but Hawaii has
been terrible since June Jones left.
Holmoe, A-, really good job. His majesty, Dr. Hill, D- for being afraid to play
BYU, a team his team beats regularly. Can't really see his logic.
Hopefully when he comes crawling back to BYU to schedule games Holmoe will send
I think there is only 1 patsy on this schedule - Idaho State. Middle Tennessee
State thrashed Georgia Tech last year. So although BYU will be favored against
them its not just a show up and win game like Idaho St. will be.
Utah State, a stand up program??!!! I needed a good laugh today! One good
season doesn't make them a good program all of the sudden...that takes
consistency. USU is nothing more than the 3rd wheel in the state, just like
most programs are with a hot rivalry and little bro wanting to be a part and
they never will, and they have 'state' in their name. Just like....MSU is to Michigan/OSUNC State is to NC/DukeIowa State is to Nebraska/Iowa
A+ for this Year, B, for years past, B+ for years to come.
RE: Naval VetYour response to Y's Guy original comment--as is
often the case--changed the subject (from recent the Utes recent history to
their overall history). Let me remind you that Y's Guy original post
pointed out that since joining the PAC12 (and thereby scheduling USC, UCLA,
Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Michigan, etc) that Whit's teams deserve an F
in winning those high profile games. My quick google search uncovers that
Y's Guy was correct... in the last two season the Utes went 1-4 in games
against the teams he mentioned. Most objective observers would give a 20%
winning percentage an F. Not that this is horrible or unexpected, I doubt BYU
would have fared any better in those games. I'm simply posting
because I believe that when someone accuses another of being illogical, frantic,
emotional, and changing the subject... that they should probably not post in a
way that is illogical, frantic, emotional, and changes the subject. Or does that
not apply to trolls?
RE: Striker"Utah State, a stand up program??!!! I needed a good
laugh today! One good season doesn't make them a good program all of the
sudden...that takes consistency. USU is nothing more than the 3rd wheel in the
state, just like most programs are with a hot rivalry and little bro wanting to
be a part and they never will, and they have 'state' in their name.Just like....MSU is to Michigan/OSUNC State is to NC/DukeIowa State is to Nebraska/Iowa"----------------------First, I'm pretty sure that Nebraska isn't in Iowa so you might want
to fix your example. Second, USU isn't a one year wonder... Gary Anderson
has been building the program over a number of years and they have seen
consistent improvement. RIGHT NOW the Aggies are probably the best football
program in the state, I wouldn't dismiss them so easily if I were you. Who
knows what Anderson's departure will do to the program but I think the
recent USU success and their joining of the MWC makes them a bona fide contender
@ Striker"Utah State a stand up program? I needed a good laugh
today. One good season doesn't make them a good program all of a sudden..
that takes consistency." Just how many years does it take to
have consistency? Is the two years of Utah losing in the PAC make
consistency?If USU beats Utah this year then I'm sure Utah will leave
USU behind like they did BYU. Then I guess Utah will need to use Weber State for
their bowl game. After all they are another "State" team.Tom
Holome would get a A- for the great work he has done.
StrikerUtah State, a stand up program??!!! ... One good season
doesn't make them a good program... USU is nothing more than the 3rd wheel
in the state... and they have 'state' in their name. Just
like....MSU is to Michigan/OSUNC State is to NC/DukeIowa State
is to Nebraska/Iowa"What a strange, disjointed post.As others have posted, Gary Anderson has been building a solid program in
Logan for several years and the Aggies were clearly the best team in the state
in 2012.Your pejorative "state" little brother argument is
silly, especially since you used Ohio STATE as Michigan's rival.Arizona STATE usually has a better football program than ArizonaFlorida
STATE is hardly a little brother to Florida (depends on the year)Ohio
STATE / Ohio - laughablePenn STATE / Penn - hystericalLouisiana
STATE / does Louisiana U even exist?The point is, don't be so
quick to dismiss the Aggies.The Aggies cracked the AP Poll in
1961.The Utes didn't crack the AP Poll until 1994.And
until 2003, 1994 was Utah's ONLY AP Top 25 finish.Sometimes
teams re-emerge, while other teams fade. It happens.
Yes the 2013 schedule has some better games and some late in the year as well.
So what will it produce?For Sure Wins – Mid Tenn & Idaho St50-50 Wins – these games could go either way – Virginia, Georgia
Tech, U of HoustonPossible Wins – If BYU gets lucky – Utah
State & NevadaFor Sure Losses – Texas, Utah, Boise State,
Wisconsin, Norte DameOut of the shoot BYU will have at least 5
losses on the year but it could be worse than that. This is not the exposure you
are looking for. Additionally, once you get that first loss, the season is shot.
Much better to be in the safety of the old MWC.
Big JActually, BYU's 2013 Schedule is exactly the kind of
exposure and strong competition BYU is looking for.Gotta love the
angst and predictions of doom and gloom this schedule is generating from the
kids on the hill, though. You're obviously worried about the
seismic shift in national prestige a schedule like this could produce if BYU is
successful. All that talk about what a miserable failure BYU was going to be as
an Independent will be resoundingly silenced.As far as the season
being shot with one loss, the schedule is strong enough that BYU could absorb a
loss to a good team and still be in contention for an at-large BCS bowl.And with ESPN as a partner, the national exposure will grow
exponentially with every BYU win.The positives of such a schedule
far out weigh the negatives.
Tough Scedule. It's possible they may have a losing season? Middle Tenn
plays well, and are not a push over. I hope to see them when they visit UVA.
Tough Scedule! Could possibly have a losing season. Middle Tenn not a push over.
I hope to see the Cougers when they visit UVA.
A classic example of risk/reward.
Good schedule and great expectations. Not sure why all the unfounded
comments regarding MWC boycotts and teams that were never in the MWC with BYU,
i.e. Hawaii, Boise St. SJSU, USU. And for the two of you who think SDSU decided
to "schedule" BYU you get a flag for a false start. SDSU was invited to
play BYU by a bowl committee.
A+ to Holmoe. Nuff said.As for the sturm and drang predictions of
disaster, not so fast. All those teams are beatable. We're not playing
Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, or LSU. I actually expect a good season next year
because the D will still be tough, even without Ansah, Ogletree, and Hadley.
Still have KVN and the fast secondary. Anae will fix the offense and QB play
will be much much better. Undefeated? Nah, but only 2 or 3 losses? Sure.I love independence. I'll be off to Virginia to see old friends
(lived there for 7 years) and take in the UVA game in beautiful Charlottesville.
Went to Ole Miss - awesome fun. Ga Tech? Atlanta rocks. Middle Tennessee State?
If you haven't been to Nashville, you're missing a great great
time!Stuck in a conference?PAC12? - well I live in LA (OC). SF
is cool, but yawn. Seattle? Love Seattle. Corvallis, Eugene, Pullman? Naw.
Big12? Nowhere - Austin is OK. Nowhere else, believe me.I'll
He definitely gets an A for this schedule.
I have Blue Blood in my veins but Sports at BYU under the Holmoe Administration
has suffered and suffered greatly...We should be in a Major Conference right now
and the fact that we are not squarely rests on Holmoe's and
Samuelson's back...(along with some of the Brethern who have had a voice in
this matter in SLC... If BYU would have played it right, they would be a full
member of the BIG XII but instead they played it "carefully" and we
suffer today as a result with only hopes in the future.We had a
reputation of being High Maintenance in the MWC (we could have left the
Conference a little smoother than we did and now other schools who have left the
MWC tells anybody that will listen how difficult it was to deal with us... Now
the world has this opinion... When we tell other conferences that we have to
control TV, or that we can't or won't show them our Financials, the
"difficult" reputation permiates even deeper...For us to
recruit best athletes and play the best competition we need to compromise on
most every iaaue but Sunday Play.
Hey Poyman, simmer down.
A+ Holmoe should get props for this kind of schedule in year number 3 of
independence. You can what you want about how important football is, but Utah,
Mormons, and BYU will not get as much national respect until they play and
compete evenly with the big schools and conferences. They need to become a top
15 team perennially. You have to have the right schedule and recruiting classes
to start. Most of the recruiting classes that were signed when independence
started are coming home from missions now. We'll watch how it goes- good
Black&BlueSt George, UtahHere is a good analogy for you to
consider. While Utah is winning the battle (Head to Head), BYU is winning
the war (better overall records, higher rankings, more national exposure, ect.)
________Here is a real analogy for you to accept as
fact.BYU has WAC padded its schedule for many years to get wins. Their
record against ranked teams the past several years is awful. Their rankings have
mostly been built upon lame scheduling. BYU has been exposed on national TV.
Boise St., Utah, San Jose St.....Their national TV exposure has sub par ratings.
USU had a higher bowl rating than BYU did!
Anyone know what the buy out $$$ were for the three teams that cancelled game
contracts with the Y?
I wish the Utes the best after this season. Its sad what money has done to
politics, music and now geographical college rivalries. My cougars will be
successful this year and in the future. We own our own destiny. It was scary
jumping off the cliff in to the unknown, but seeing how many fans we can get at
such different locations warms my heart. I went to the Notre Dame game at Notre
Dame Stadium last year and am planning on going to it this year too. I encourage
all cougar fans to go to at least one away game this year and show how much we
support our school and independence. I'm excited for the future of cougar
football and the schedule Tom Holmoe has put together. Go cougars!
Sad there's no TCU game this year. Those are always fun to attend.
Holmoe is more than likely not even responsible for any of this schedule. The
Athletic Director job at BYU is nothing more than a mouth piece/spokesmodel. He
does not make any decision without approval from people above him. Whereas at
most schools, the Athletic Director actually has power and is the person to make
big time decisions. Holmoe has very little to do but wait for something to read
to the press. So taking that into account, the schedule appears to be a step up
from other years. But.....two years in a row by seasons end, BYU ends up with a
#80 and higher strength of schedule. It looks like it could happen again. I
can't stand that Harmon paints a picture that Provo has had it so rough in
scheduling. Really? Join a conference like the rest of America and stop
complaining. Oh, that's right, nobody wants Provo in their league. Finally,
if the scheduling was so great, you'd think Provo would score higher in the
recruiting rankings. But being ranked in the bottom third of college football
for the past 2 years, while your rival has recruited two top 30 classes is
really bad. Grade D
JD,You need to do some better homework. Holmoe has everything to do with
this schedule. From the very first phone call to reviewing and signing the
contract. As for where they rank in recruiting; irrelevant. Notre dame is in the
top ten in recruiting every year and all but the last couple of years they have
hardly qualified to go to a bowl game. As for Utah, I bet they would rather be
in the bottom 1/3rd and go bowling than to be in the top 1/3rd and stay home
like this year. The way it looks, next year will be more of the same.
This is a program that should either go back to the MWC or be dropped outright.
Perhaps the latter would be best sicne it matches up best with the mission of
the smaller religious based WCC schools. Senior church leaders would likewise
be smart to use the mission-surge period to re-evaluate and perhaps cutback the
enrollemnt ceiling at BYU. Church controlled schools have no business being
involved in big time college football programs that contribute to Sunday play
leagues (the NFL), nor be invloved in post graduate research programs or major
professional programs (Law & MBA), should NOT be part of the offerings of a
church school. All BYU does is detract from the missions of state owned and
operated institutions such as Utah State University, and this has all BYU has
done for the past half century. The LDS church does not need a big time
football program to fulfill the mission of BYU.
"54-10Salt Lake City, UTBYU schedule work = AGetting Cal on NCAA probation while the coach = F"Definite
like if Holmoe actually got Cal in trouble. Give me a 9 on the Richter for
Berkeley and Palo Alto!