If I had a business in a liberal state, I would move to a conservative state,
lay off all my liberal employees and hire new employees in my new home.Oh, wait, I have two businesses in Washington State (just a little left of
center), but no employees. One of the businesses is a non profit business (not
the way I planned it). I also have a job so I can't move.I can
Well, it's Utah. Business should be reduced by only 26%.
Completely the business owners prerogative.But, could you imagine
the outrage on Fox if this occurred in the reverse?
This is an honest business man, and there aren't too many of those around
Back in the 60's, foods like smoothies would have been considered liberal
fare. Hippies (liberals) advocated eating fruits, and nuts and granola and not
eating steak (conservative food).As time has progressed, it is quite
commonly accepted that the liberals were right, at least on food and also on the
This just reinforces what I've felt for years ... that conservatives have
gone off the deep end and feel it's their way or you pay (one way or the
other). Can you imagine the Headlines if a liberal charged extra to conservative
customers? Rush Limbaugh would have a field day putting this down if the shoe
was on the other foot. Outrageous doesn't even begin to describe this.
Interesting concept, even if it isn't grounded in reality. I'm afraid
I would do it a bit differently if it were my shop, though. Any conservative who
openly admits that they and many other conservatives benefit from services
provided by the federal government and/or can describe to me the non-existent
GOP plan to balance the federal budget gets a free smoothie. Automatons like Mr.
Peterson will be charged the $5 banality surcharge. I'm guessing I would
collect a lot of surcharges but give away very few smoothies.
@JoeBlow It IS happening in reverse. What do you think all the liberal
whinging for "the rich" to pay "their fair share" is?
He's got the right idea. If people could actually see and feel the pain of
how much liberal / progressive ideas cost the country; they would think twice
before voting for representatives that support such issues as:Climate Change (AKA Global Warming or is it freezing?)Environmentalism
(Save the owl, the snail darter, a fish, etc.)Free rent, food, health care
(Though someone has to pay for it.)If there was a way to force just
those who support such ideas to have to pay for them, while the rest of us got a
free ride, there would be a lot less liberal / progressive thinking around.Oh wait a minute, that's already what they do to those of us who
don't support such ideas!
Ah yes, the poor, abused rich.Let me ask you? If the deck is so
stacked against this group how is it thatthey have managed to amass a
bigger and bigger percentage of this nations wealth.Kind of hard to
feel sorry for them.
The sad thing is and what perhaps many refuse to accept is that we need a less
powerful federal government and stronger state governments. The social programs
should be administered by the States for their individual circumstances, and the
federal government should be for national defense and repair of the interstate
highways. The federal government has too much power that it abuses.
He's pretty brave drawing the ire of the vast throngs of liberals in
Vernal. He wouldn't be pandering to commonly held views for the sake of
sales, now would he?
RE: ravalens2I don't think you'd like to live in a country
where the rich aren't forced share with the poor. You'd have putrid
city scapes and millions homeless savage vagabonds roaming the land, threatening
you and your loved ones. But you would have lower taxes.
I disagree, there would be no outrage at Fox. Why? Because they would support
the idea that it's clearly the business owner's choice to decide how
they want to price their products. Fox would also want the
government should stay out of it, and let the people decide if they wish to
support such a business. I believe Fox would say, "Let them fail or succeed
based on the merits of what they offer the public."It's
liberals and progressives who would force the owner to offer not only equal
pricing to all, but free smoothies to those who can't afford to pay for
them.If you support liberal / progressive ideas then support them
with your money, just keep your hands off of mine.
"The poor abused rich."Yes, you got that right, at least for
those who report earned income.For the year 2010, the top 10% of
Americans paid 69.94% of the income taxes in the U.S. That's almost 70% of
the income taxes paid. (Souce: U.S. Government)If you increase it to
the top 25% then those citizens are paid 86.34% of the income taxes for the year
2010.The rest of us, (Yes, including me.) paid only about 14% of the
LOLWell, that's a good start. But what he should do is give the
liberals only have of what they paid for and then give the other half to someone
else (or just throw it away). I love how liberals get upset over
this stuff - real life application of their beliefs isn't so good.
Perhaps he could have people vote with $1 to a jar that defends his viewpoint on
energy, or one that opposes it. I am a conservative person who thinks all
viewpoints in our country should be listened to with respect, not derision. It
ought to be safe for all of us to speak our minds.
I'm a staunchly conservative Obama supporter. Gimme the discount, and maybe
think about how counter productive it is to label people.
Great comment, catcrazed. You nailed it.
Putrid landscapes and millions homeless?I seriously doubt it. There
would be more than enough savings to maintain our parks, cities and yes, even
offer some help to those who through no fault of their own are unable to support
themselves, if we eliminated the bloated government bureaucracy, unnecessary
wars and kicked the undeserving off of welfare and government handouts.There is a truism in government. Whatever you subsidize, you get more of.Want more people on welfare? Then give it out like it was free candy.
Want more federal debt? Keep providing free food, housing, health care, et
cetera and it will surely happen.I for one, cannot support the idea
of kicking our debt down the road leaving our children and grandchildren to pay
off what we so stupidly spent.That, in my opinion is "taxation
without representation;" since they don't have a voice in how we are
spending their money.
Hmmm...my mom was as far from a 'Hippie' as you can get but I grew up
drinking raw milk, eating whole grains, veggies from the garden, etc. My family
got to eat 'store bought cereal' once a year. Christmas. My mom did
her best to feel us well and none of my siblings were overweight until they
began working at fast food joints and living on their own. Before convenience
food, people ate much better but it didn't save George Washington's
teeth. SO, the smoothie shop thing is not a "hippie" thing. It is just
that the hippies announced their going back to basics very loudly-and more. I think that those who are offended by the smoothie shop owner's pricing
decisions can vote by avoiding the shop. No harm done. No one needs to be
Good for him, he can do whatever he wants within the law.We need to
support the disabled and poor who are willing to help themselves and try their
best. There is far too much aid being given out and far too many who are
abusing the system. Cuts need to be made and abusers need to be cut off. No
more steak, lobster, fast food being paid for with food stamps.
The state constitution gives taxation authority to the legisltature, not
smoothie shops. In true conservative fashion, this busniess owner chooses to
praise the constitution, but disregard its content.
So what’s new? The other businessmen in Utah and throughout the nation
use their commercial business to manipulate the governments policies. Actually, I would like for all businesses to post their political views.
I would even make it a requirement of the business license. If the
customer, consumer, was aware of the businesses politics he could vote with his
dollars in a much more democratic election than the political elections that are
rigged against him. Since almost everybody is a consumer, the voter
turnout would be terrific. No registration, no age limits, no residency
requirements and no voter fraud.
Dear Moderate:Actually the practice he has engaged in is something
in the world of economics that we call "price discrimination." And
while it's corky and kind of dumb it's perfectly legal and in all
reality is not a tax at all. Taxes are levied by the government--not
individuals. This practice of "price discrimination" is practiced
throughout the country in many different ways. When you buy a car, house, or
really anything you bargain for. If you're a student or a senior citizen
you can get discounts. It really happens all the time and there is nothing
unconstitutional about it. I really do suggest you
"moderates" (code name for "liberal" and "progressive"
of which many are members of the Republican party) try taking a few courses in
economics, finance, and accounting. You will quickly understand why you are
driving the country off a cliff (temporarily avoided one). Let me clue you in.
It's because you encourage incredibly bad fiscal policies not grounded in
Thanks for the warning.We've just added this business to our
Doesn't intend to offend? Uh huh, with the liberal population of Vernal
being almost nonexistant it's like kids in high school making jokes about a
kid to each other and then that kid happens to hear so the excuse is basically
"hey I didn't think he'd actually hear it".
Let me tell you what started this man down this road and why he has so much
community support. When Obama was first elected and named Ken Salazar as
Secretary of the Interior, the first thing that happened was the cancellation of
drilling leases on public lands which had already been paid for. This turned
off our economic spigot. Business just shut down, houses were foreclosed, and
many people lost everything. 5 years later, the leases are not renewed and the
Federal Government still has our drilling lease money. NO REFUND. That's
theft by deception. Current liberal policy nearly destroyed our community. So,
liberal media sponges, buy your smoothies in another state...please.
rvalens2 said, "He's got the right idea. If people...feel the pain of
how much liberal / progressive ideas cost the country; they would think
twice...":Climate Change (Really? We're still debating
that?)Environmentalism (Anyone old enough who traveled to major cities in
the 70's and who re-visits those locations today can clearly see (and I
mean that) that the air is more clear and environment has changed for the better
- because of environmentalism)Free rent, food, health care (Did you deduct
mortgage interest from your taxes last year? Would you say that is equal to
subsidized housing? And just who is getting free healthcare - freeloaders who
refuse to pay for insurance even though they can afford it and so they use the
local emergency room as their doctor's office. Then of course there are
those with no job or such low income that they can't afford healthcare.
Have you noticed how much more someone get's charged by a hospital when
they don't have insurance? But in this wonderful country I guess we should
just let those people die on the street or suffer in silence. Is that what
I live in Vernal. I would consider myself middle of the road in politics. I have
just watched George over the past few years. (I don't know him personally)
The one thing I can say about him is he knows how to promote. He came into town
and tried to make his business work out. He noticed that a lot of people out
here work in the energy industry. In his slow times, he would stand out with a
sign asking for people to honk if they love drilling. This man seems to know how
to target his demographics. There are probably 10% liberals out here. Why should
he not market to the majority? Personally I just think he is a brilliant
marketer. I did not even know there was a juice shop here until I read the
article. Now I might go and get a juice.
@JoeBlow It isn't about feeling sorry about anybody. It is about the
irresponsible ignorance and hypocrisy of those who consider themselves
"liberals."If you support thieving the rewards of labor from
those who educate themselves, take financial risks, and build wealth, because
you don't think it is fair that somebody sitting on their couch playing
their Xbox all day doesn't enjoy the same financial rewards for their
"labor," then, in my opinion, you've proven yourself a stranger,
and perhaps even an enemy, to reality, intelligence, and common sense.
Well once a politician gets to Washington and served a term - he/she will
realize that there is no major difference in a conservative or a liberal - from
the right - left They all as a collective group have sold America
out and just put on that old dog and pony show - Republican vs Democrat Hows that change working out in your neck of the woods ?Who
passed all them Anti American Pieces of Legislation ie- Patriot Act - NDAA ?
Who passed all them Anti American Trade Agreements-ie- Nafta - Gatt ? Who
ran up all that Debt ? We are really beyond flat broke - who keeps sending all
our taxpayer monies to all them Foreign Countries ?Liberals -
Conservatives - NeoCons All Rubbish
Vernal is a tough area. The oil bosses bring fear to their employees by telling
them if they vote Democrat (Obama) they will lose their jobs. Looks like they
are still working but they fall for it all the time. I hope this guy figures his
taxes correctly, the extra dollar needs to be taxed and reported as does the
spit and whatever else is found in his smoothies. No decent person would go into
his store, even if they are a member of the GOP.
Liberals love taxes so much. So, what's the big deal?
A tax on liberals AND spinach smoothies? What a nightmare.
How exactly does he know who is a liberal and who is a conservative? I'd
guess he asks for a picture ID and if the person has Jethro or Lilly Mae as
their first name, or Clampett as their last name, then they qualify for the
@Joe Blow"If the deck is so stacked against this group how is it
thatthey have managed to amass a bigger and bigger percentage of this
nations wealth."It's pretty simple really. They work hard
and have the capacity to better themselves.
@Most Truthful and Patriotic"We've just added this business to
our "shun list"."I'm sure this business owner will
be crying himself to sleep tonight.
If it's "cute" or "legal" to do this based on political
views, it should also pass the muster on other differences as well.For example -- Men $4.95Women $5.95orMormons $4.95Non-Mormons $5.95or Whites $4.95Non-Whites $5.95I think a lawsuit will be
wiping that smug smile right off his Conservative face.
I'd be curious to know if the IRS will be conducting an audit of his books
and if he is truely "reporting" those extra "taxes" he's so
I adore this man.
It makes me wonder if he got an SBA loan to start his business. Dad Blamed
@rvalens2speaking of unnecessary wars - your conservatives are the
ones that keep putting us into them and then blaming the ones that oppose it as
un-american, liberal, or pacifist.As a vietnam vet(disabled) I think
it is amazing that conservative Republicans think they have the ownership of
patriotism, then many sit back and send the less affluent off to fight their
wars. Take a look around and see who put us in this hole and continues to fill
their pockets to keep most of us in the group paying the 14% while they keep
getting richer. Trust me the 1%ers aren't inviting you or me to join their
club. the 99% doing the grunt work is how they maintain the economic disparity
in this country and around the world. For me I'll spend my $5.95 plus tax
somewhere that respects ALL people even if they think differently than the
LOL a lot of people posting with out any facts or knowledge, law suit hardly,
tax, no he doesn't charge a tax, just a higher price. The DN said tax not
him. As for the price, he says they are both listed on the price board. He
only asks what price the customer wants to pay. Paying the higher product price
is a choice of the customer he makes no judgement. As he said in an interview,
he has a number of liberal friends that come in and pay the higher price, making
a statement. He doesn't demand a higher price. He does not demand
identification or proof of political leanings. Liberals are really uptight
individuals. LOL. Oh and for facts, drilling in the Vernal area with Obama
went from sixty rigs down to about seventeen. Obama did kill jobs in Vernal.
Do I smell free advertising here? Yes, yes I think I do.
I wonder what his tax on moderates is... 50 cents? I wonder how disappointed he
would be to find out a bunch of moderate academics are the ones keeping US oil
production competitive. If it weren't for a bunch of people in my
business, he wouldn't have a hole to ..... in. But it is a
clever campaign.... he got the attention he wanted.
Making money and a profit off politics. He has the makings of a conservative
The great lie of liberalism is that conservatives hate the poor, would cast off
people to a life of poverty, etc. etc. The reality is that conservatives care
for and are more than willing to help the poor. The problem we have with the
status quo, is in how the government goes about it. Rather than helping people,
the liberal establishment and their methods go about creating dependency which
has the very effect of making people poor in the first place--by messing up the
natural work=reward equation of the human condition. I am all for a
safety net. I am all for caring for the poor and have devoted many personal
hours of my time and my own resources to doing precisely that. I am all for
caring for those in need and giving them a hand up, and yes, even a hand
out--according to their need and circumstances. But I, along with every other
conservative, am against creating poverty by mis-applying and over-applying
public assistance. I hate to see poverty. It pains me. And I hate to see my
government causing it!
If the proprietor really wanted to separate liberals from their money,
shouldn't he charge them less? Lower price translates to greater sales
volume, so total revenue goes up. A self-proclaimed conservative ought to
understand markets. He seems more interested in the "gotcha" element
than in getting liberals to hand over their money.
If I called myself a Democrat, or was part of the 47% including many Rebpulcians
who pay no taxes -- Will this guy give me a "freebie"?
This guy is my hero
--------------------------For example -- Men $4.95Women
$5.95orMormons $4.95Non-Mormons $5.95or Whites $4.95Non-Whites $5.95------------------------------Open Minded Mormon made some great points.
What she missed of course is that every item she listed is either religious or
what you are. Both areas are protected by the constitution. Being liberal or
conservative is what you choose and therefore is not protected by the
constitution. And no, you are not "born" that way (liberal or
"There is a truism in government. Whatever you subsidize, you get more
of." Such as more Big Oil?"Want more people on welfare? Then
give it out like it was free candy." This is pure straw man. "Want more
federal debt?" Can you make a real argument that 'free candy' is
such a substantial driver of the debt?"I for one, cannot support
the idea of kicking our debt down the road leaving our children and
grandchildren to pay off what we so stupidly spent." Did you scream at the
Bush administration for the Iraq debacle, which is in fact a significant driver
of the debt we're paying for now?The loss of revenue by giving the
wealthiest this great break, is this 'savings' for the federal
goverment somehow to you? You have the most simplistic [and
reactionary] ideas and as far as I can tell regurgitating them mindlessly is
sufficient. Do you think you're saying something to an adult here?
As a liberal, I would be happy to pay an extra dollar, if it went to the health
care of underpaid restaurant workers. But the Heritage Foundation gets enough
money from the KOCH brothers. They don't need my help.